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Why We Can't Trust What Obama Says About His Religion

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by pennmark, Mar 5, 2011.

  1. JoyJuice

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  2. variant

    variant Happy Cat

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    Indeed, and if you feel you are separate from the world and you have your own special view of reality and hold the beliefs that all that entails, but we call that a religion.
     
  3. tulc

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    hmmm perhaps something less...biased? I don't go on rabid anti-Catholic sites and look for truths about the Catholic Church, so I'd prefer something a little less obviously biased if you have such a site? :wave:
    tulc(doesn't mean to be fussy, just kind of likes his sources a little more balanced) :sorry:
     
  4. tulc

    tulc loves "SO'S YER MOM!! posts!

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    Ahhh! Thanks for the heads up! :wave:
    tulc(hates virus's a lot!) :mad:
     
  5. HerbieHeadley

    HerbieHeadley North American Energy Independence Now!

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    :D (if you take the Word complete, the answer)
     
  6. HerbieHeadley

    HerbieHeadley North American Energy Independence Now!

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    The Obots really don't like the links that have anything negative to say about Barry.

    It really is vicious of them.

    Is there a deja vu feeling here JJ, tulc?

    :confused:
     
  7. Christos Anesti

    Christos Anesti Junior Member

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    Would you trust Obama if he said he was a Muslim?
     
  8. Chris81

    Chris81 Servant to Christ

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    How do we know that Obama is even human?

    I believe the History Channel series, Ancient Aliens, is looking into credible conspiracy theories that claim Obama is an extra-terestrial who was sent to Earth in order to prepare the way for the invasion of the Ziglons. This is an immoral vile species of alien that hates freedom and desires to rule the world with an iron fist!
     
  9. katherine2001

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    Thank you, Chris! I knew Obama was actually green with pink polka dots!
     
  10. Blayz

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    Not quite. Al-taqiyya allows a Muslim to lie to a non-Muslim, for various reasons. Interestingly in this context it allowed Shi'a to lie to Sunni, and visa versa. Anyway:

    Premise 1: When Obama said he was a Christian, he did it at least once in a televised coverage that included not only the USA, but also much of the at least Western world.
    Premise 2: Given this audience, there was at least one Muslim-of-the-type-that-Obama-is-alleged-to-be that watched the broadcast.
    Conclusion: Obama did not engage in Al-taqiyya, since this would have involved lying to Muslims
    Corollary: Obama is not a Muslim
     
  11. SOAD

    SOAD Why do they always send the poor? (S.O.A.D.)

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    I this an attempt to answer the question? Now that you have engaged, please give your answer.
     
  12. tulc

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    According to the Bible, Jesus is the founder of the Church. :)
    tulc(has always believed that) :wave:
     
  13. KarateCowboy

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    One of these days I'll post a thread about why I don't care. He's not a Muslim, and he's certainly not a Christian.
     
  14. CryptoLutheran

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    If someone tells you they're not a robot, you can be sure they are a robot.

    Don't let their cute and adorable faces fool you.

    This
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    is this,

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    -CryptoLutheran
     
  15. JoyJuice

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    No, just the ones that throw up virus alerts.

    A virus just isn't worth reading something written with a third grade mentality.
     
  16. Redac

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    From everything I've read, al-taqiyya is something that allows a Muslim to conceal their faith if under threat of persecution, physical harm, or coercion. It's not a case of "lie to the Christians so I can infiltrate their society".
     
  17. HerbieHeadley

    HerbieHeadley North American Energy Independence Now!

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    Ignoring context of questions and building strawmen is fourth grade, eh? :p
     
  18. HerbieHeadley

    HerbieHeadley North American Energy Independence Now!

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    Only if they feel they need to conceal their faith to avoid persecution and coercion. It's OK to lie for Allah! ;)
     
  19. HerbieHeadley

    HerbieHeadley North American Energy Independence Now!

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    'The Lord Jesus Christ is the one great subject of the Word of God from Genesis to Revelation. He is the Master-key to the Divine revelation of the Word from the Old Testament to the New.
    The whole Bible is about Him directly and even indirectly, and as everything centers in and around the King and his kingdom, in promise and prophesy, apart from Him it cannot be understood.'

    :groupray:
     
  20. religious&reasonable

    religious&reasonable Slayer of Stupid Threads

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    Yes, this would be relevant IF HE WAS ACTUALLY MUSLIM.

    But he's not, he is a christian just like most of us. He goes to church, he reads the bible. I don't understand how you people even get this insane notion that he is muslim. That's just being unreasonable.

    Why can't people try to argue things that actually have a basis and actual evidence supporting?
     
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