Religion of" peace".

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I've been criticised for trying to expose the danger that Islam poses to non-Muslim nations. Most governments suppress the truth about Islam. If the average person knew what was going on, there would be an outcry. As it is, the silence is deafening.


Australian pro-Palestine group declares acts of terror 'ethically justified'


Islam claims to be the religion of peace. They have a funny way of showing it. And most nations in the world have allowed these monsters into society to spread their wicked lies and to promote violence against anyone who is not Muslim. Jihad, coming to a place near you.
 

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Well, one rumor is that all Muslims are terrorists who are going to kill as many people as they can.

So, then . . . how many people on this earth claim to be Muslims? There are at least millions. But we haven't been hearing that millions of non-Muslims on this planet have recently been murdered by jihadists. If they have, it certainly has been covered-up very well, indeed.

By the way - - how many Americans have recently killed unborn people, right while they make an issue of what a few jihadists have done?

And in history ones in America have killed women and children in order to take the lands of their peoples. And in Australia, likewise, aborigines were murdered for some or no reason.

It seems there are people capable of murder, in every culture.

Germany a civilized country was able to produce enough psychopaths to make the Nazi thing work for some time.

Jewish mothers and fathers were able to call for the crucifixion of Jesus.

So, I would say Arab groups are not the only ones able to produce murderers and psychopaths and narcissists.

But while evil people claim to be part of a religious or political or ethnic group, everyone else of that group can get blamed for what only certain ones are doing.

I think there are jihadists who blame and want to kill any and all Americans, when only certain Americans have done wrong to Arabs and Muslims. And likewise, there are Americans who seem to blame all Arabs and Muslims for what jihadists have done. But not all Americans and not all Arab Muslims are fooled into doing this.
 
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I just don't believe that the Indian guy who runs the laundry mat I used to go to before I moved is somehow out to kill me or anyone for not being Muslim. In fact, the first time I met him (it was just me and him in the place, and I guess he was just happy to see another person there), he told me -- completely unprovoked -- that he was having a hard time that day because he had just been to a funeral for his friend, who was an older Christian man that he took to church every Sunday because his friend was too old to drive, and he was going to miss doing that for him. If guys like this are really terrorists-in-disguise, then it's a darn good disguise.

Also, it is entirely possible to be pro-Palestine and not defend terrorist attacks. Plenty of Palestinians do not fall for the false choice that westerners are presented with whereby it's either you support Israel or you by default support terrorism. See, for instance, HG Bishop Elias Chacour of the Melkite Catholic Church in Galilee, or the residents of Beit Sahour (80% Christian), who pioneered non-violent resistance to Israel by refusing to pay taxes to the Israeli state during the first Intifada.
 
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Not all Muslims act like so-called "Radical Muslims." You cannot lump them all together.
True. But "radical" Islam is normal Islam. What other religion has violence written into its (un)holy book? Hindus in India are attacking Christians out of nationalism, not religious fervour. North Korea is a typical brutal communist regime. China is ruled by a despotic dictator. Most other persecuting nations are majority Muslim. The Western world has opened the doors to a flood of people who despise Western ideals, culture, morals and religions. There is a reason for this. What Islam failed to do by conquest, it is doing by stealth.

Muslims have much larger families than most non-Muslims. And that's why London, aka Londonistan, has a Muslim Mayor. And. at last count, 80 Sharia courts in England. Just by having more children, Islam will eventually become the majority religion of the UK. Some variation of Mohamed is the most common boys name there. The UK has a nuclear arsenal. I'm glad I'm old. It is unlikely that I'll be around to see the land of my birth taken over by people who would kill me and believe that they are doing God a favour.

The "dark, Satanic mills" of the old song have become minarets.
 
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Well, one rumor is that all Muslims are terrorists who are going to kill as many people as they can.

So, then . . . how many people on this earth claim to be Muslims? There are at least millions. But we haven't been hearing that millions of non-Muslims on this planet have recently been murdered by jihadists. If they have, it certainly has been covered-up very well, indeed.

By the way - - how many Americans have recently killed unborn people, right while they make an issue of what a few jihadists have done?

And in history ones in America have killed women and children in order to take the lands of their peoples. And in Australia, likewise, aborigines were murdered for some or no reason.

It seems there are people capable of murder, in every culture.

Germany a civilized country was able to produce enough psychopaths to make the Nazi thing work for some time.

Jewish mothers and fathers were able to call for the crucifixion of Jesus.

So, I would say Arab groups are not the only ones able to produce murderers and psychopaths and narcissists.

But while evil people claim to be part of a religious or political or ethnic group, everyone else of that group can get blamed for what only certain ones are doing.

I think there are jihadists who blame and want to kill any and all Americans, when only certain Americans have done wrong to Arabs and Muslims. And likewise, there are Americans who seem to blame all Arabs and Muslims for what jihadists have done. But not all Americans and not all Arab Muslims are fooled into doing this.
Nearly 2 billion Muslims in the world today. Not all Muslims are terrorists. But most terrorists are Muslim. Check out Open Doors list of nations that persecute Christians. Most of those nations are majority Muslim. Muslim violence is common and extreme in Africa.
 
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Not all Muslims act like so-called "Radical Muslims." You cannot lump them all together.
Radical Muslims are normal Muslims who follow the Qu'ran literally. True, not all Muslims follow the Qu'ran any more than many supposed Christians follow the Bible. But there are enough Muslim zealots to be a threat to Western society. Westerners think in terms of years. Islam thinks in centuries. The leaders of Islam fully intend to enforce a world wide caliphate, in direct opposition to the Kingdom God. They will fail, but not for want of trying. What helps is that Muslims are pitted against each other.

Islam, Judaism and Catholicism will eventually merge, in my view. This is underway right now. Then there will be a world religion pitted against the real church. I don't know exactly how it will pan out. Hopefully, I won't be around to find out.
 
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Radical Muslims are normal Muslims who follow the Qu'ran literally. True, not all Muslims follow the Qu'ran any more than many supposed Christians follow the Bible. But there are enough Muslim zealots to be a threat to Western society. Westerners think in terms of years. Islam thinks in centuries. The leaders of Islam fully intend to enforce a world wide caliphate, in direct opposition to the Kingdom God. They will fail, but not for want of trying. What helps is that Muslims are pitted against each other.

Islam, Judaism and Catholicism will eventually merge, in my view. This is underway right now. Then there will be a world religion pitted against the real church. I don't know exactly how it will pan out. Hopefully, I won't be around to find out.
How? Catholics believe in Jesus as the Messiah, which Jews and Muslims do not agree with at all. That definitely won't happen ;)
 
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Islam, Judaism and Catholicism will eventually merge, in my view.

So wait...Muslims both want to kill Christians for being Christian and 'merge' with them/us? How does that make any sense? When you think you are in the right (theologically, morally, socially, etc.), it makes no sense to attempt to 'merge' with others who are at least somewhat in the wrong, to whatever extent they disagree with you. They would be disregarding their own religion to do so, which obviously the more radical of them would not be okay with doing. There'd be no real benefit.
 
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True. But "radical" Islam is normal Islam.
It's not possible for "radical" Islam to be true Islam if greater than 99% of the world's Muslims aren't radicalized.

What other religion has violence written into its (un)holy book?
The violent verses found in the Qur'an and those that call for the killing of non-Muslims have a very specific application. In each and every verse where the killing of unbelievers is mentioned, there are strict conditions prescribed for doing so, and not a single one calls for the killing of unbelievers simply for being unbelievers.

The verses that call for killing in the Qur'an were revealed to specific audiences under specific circumstances that took place over 1,400 years ago. That point in history and those being spoken to have long passed, and the verses commanding that unbelievers be killed or converted to Islam are not applicable to Muslims living in 2024.

Nearly 2 billion Muslims in the world today. Not all Muslims are terrorists. But most terrorists are Muslim.
Islamic terrorism, like what we have seen over the past two decades, is a recent phenomenon. Prior to 2010, less than 10% of all terrorism globally was Islamic-related. The increase in Islamic terrorism we we have seen since the 2010s has been a direct result of western intervention in the Middle East, South Asia, and North Africa.
 
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Nearly 2 billion Muslims in the world today. Not all Muslims are terrorists. But most terrorists are Muslim. Check out Open Doors list of nations that persecute Christians. Most of those nations are majority Muslim. Muslim violence is common and extreme in Africa.
And I think it can be as you say, that violence includes Muslims against other Muslins. But still, I think, Muslim violence in Africa is more against non-Muslims.

Also, even if a lot of Muslims don't use violence, they can be bringing up children to help maintain areas where violence has cleared the way for their culture. They have violence specialists and experts for living wherever they take over.

One report is a guy said he brings up two boys to be martyrs and two to learn professions in a peacetime culture.

But, of course, there are the communists who can depend on violent takeover, before they get their culture going. But it seems the communists have reached more of a cultural state, though ones are preparing for warlike activities. They at this time are maybe being resisted fairly effectively. And they might have enough to handle with people and land they already have. But China is working on it, one way or another. They seem to do things longterm, too.

But people claiming democracy have used violence against Mexico and Indians and Japan in order to gain land and commerce. But now that democracy has more of what it's people want, they say, let's do things peacefully! . . . after killing to get what they have.

So, right now, maybe we could say, certain Muslims are taking their turn, and they maybe have been operating from a place of frustration and some amount of backward culture and ways which have kept them from getting more.

And Americans kill their unborn in order to have the culture and lifestyles which they want. Possibly more people have been killed this way, than have been lost to terrorism and some number of recent armed conflicts, all combined.
 
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I've been criticised for trying to expose the danger that Islam poses to non-Muslim nations. Most governments suppress the truth about Islam. If the average person knew what was going on, there would be an outcry. As it is, the silence is deafening.


Australian pro-Palestine group declares acts of terror 'ethically justified'


Islam claims to be the religion of peace. They have a funny way of showing it. And most nations in the world have allowed these monsters into society to spread their wicked lies and to promote violence against anyone who is not Muslim. Jihad, coming to a place near you.
So other than bashing Muslims what do you propose Christians do? Fight them?
 
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Australian pro-Palestine group declares acts of terror 'ethically justified'

https://www.skynews.com.au/australi...s/news-story/e32b2202efd8651dea37431e10418e65
Islam claims to be the religion of peace. They have a funny way of showing it. And most nations in the world have allowed these monsters into society to spread their wicked lies and to promote violence against anyone who is not Muslim. Jihad, coming to a place near you.
The comments mentioning terrorism in this article have nothing to do with Islam or promoting violence against anyone who is not Muslim. The two men making the comments are not Muslims; they are Aboriginal Australians. The man identified only as "Keiran in the article" would be Keiran Stewart-Assheton, the president of the Black Peoples Union and one of the organizers of the pro-Palestinian rallies in Austrailia. Looking at social media posts found on the Black People's Union pages and posts made by Keiran Stewart-Assheton, they are against the colonial occupation of Indigenous lands in Australia and elsewhere in the world.
 
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How? Catholics believe in Jesus as the Messiah, which Jews and Muslims do not agree with at all. That definitely won't happen ;)
Can't happen? It is already happening. There is a syncretistic religion known as "Chrislam" in Nigeria. Muslim clerics have been invited to preach in some churches. There are groups working to bring about this merger. Islam is often described as one of the great Abrahamic faiths, along with Judaism. I don't know how anyone can be so deluded, but even former Hillsong Pastor Brian Houston has said it.
 
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The comments mentioning terrorism in this article have nothing to do with Islam or promoting violence against anyone who is not Muslim. The two men making the comments are not Muslims; they are Aboriginal Australians. The man identified only as "Keiran in the article" would be Keiran Stewart-Assheton, the president of the Black Peoples Union and one of the organizers of the pro-Palestinian rallies in Austrailia. Looking at social media posts found on the Black People's Union pages and posts made by Keiran Stewart-Assheton, they are against the colonial occupation of Indigenous lands in Australia and elsewhere in the world.
"A separate Palestinian male in the video, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, adds: “They label us as terrorists… We haven't even started the proper resistance action yet. We will. It's just a matter of time. There's no doubt about it. I have faith, I have full faith on my creator and my land that this resistance will start.” Sky News Australia

They use the term "sitintifada", a play on the Arabic word intifada. The unnamed Palestinian is not talking about Christian faith, that's for sure.
 
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They use the term "sitintifada", a play on the Arabic word intifada.
Yes, and Arabic word, not a Muslim word.

The unnamed Palestinian is not talking about Christian faith, that's for sure.
I'm not so sure the man is Palestinian based on his comments. A Muslim wouldn't say he has "full faith on my creator and my land." A Muslim would say they have faith in God alone. That comment sounds more like something an Indigenous Australian would say since they are more into spirituality and worship many dieties.

But let's say that he is a Palestinian. How do you know for sure what religion this man follows? From what I can gather, it seems that many Palestinians in Austrailia are Christians.

The Palestinian Christians in Australia group (PCiA) estimates there are around 20,000 Palestinian Christians in Australia, with most of them being based in Sydney and Melbourne.

The following site claims that there is a total of between 20 to 25 thousand Palestinians in the country with no mention of religion.

We estimate that the actual number of Palestinians in Australia currently sits between 20 thousand and 25 thousand people, with populations concentrated, for the most part, in the metropolitan areas of Sydney and Melbourne. Given this size, there exist several Palestinian organizations that either advocate for Palestinian issues or simply provide a space for the Palestinian community to associate and socialize.

Based on the information from these two sources, it appears that the majority of Palestinians in Austrailia are Christian.

Also, if you go to the Palestinian Christians in Australia Facebook page, you will see that they have been participating in several pro-Palestinian rallies iand marches n Austrailia since October, so even if the man in the article is Palestinian, there's a strong possibility that he would identify as a Christian.
 
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Yes, and Arabic word, not a Muslim word.


I'm not so sure the man is Palestinian based on his comments. A Muslim wouldn't say he has "full faith on my creator and my land." A Muslim would say they have faith in God alone. That comment sounds more like something an Indigenous Australian would say since they are more into spirituality and worship many dieties.

But let's say that he is a Palestinian. How do you know for sure what religion this man follows? From what I can gather, it seems that many Palestinians in Austrailia are Christians.

The Palestinian Christians in Australia group (PCiA) estimates there are around 20,000 Palestinian Christians in Australia, with most of them being based in Sydney and Melbourne.

The following site claims that there is a total of between 20 to 25 thousand Palestinians in the country with no mention of religion.

We estimate that the actual number of Palestinians in Australia currently sits between 20 thousand and 25 thousand people, with populations concentrated, for the most part, in the metropolitan areas of Sydney and Melbourne. Given this size, there exist several Palestinian organizations that either advocate for Palestinian issues or simply provide a space for the Palestinian community to associate and socialize.

Based on the information from these two sources, it appears that the majority of Palestinians in Austrailia are Christian.

Also, if you go to the Palestinian Christians in Australia Facebook page, you will see that they have been participating in several pro-Palestinian rallies in Austrailia since October, so even if the man in the article is Palestinian, there's a strong possibility that he would identify as a Christian.
A Christian terrorist is an oxymoron. A Muslim terrorist is Islam 101.
 
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So wait...Muslims both want to kill Christians for being Christian and 'merge' with them/us? How does that make any sense? When you think you are in the right (theologically, morally, socially, etc.), it makes no sense to attempt to 'merge' with others who are at least somewhat in the wrong, to whatever extent they disagree with you. They would be disregarding their own religion to do so, which obviously the more radical of them would not be okay with doing. There'd be no real benefit.
Exactly. I do not consider the Catholic organisation Christian, although many Catholics are indeed Christian. One of the giveaways is precisely that they would consider merging with Islam and Judaism. Light cannot fellowship with darkness, so Catholicism is of the darkness, not the light. Once this religion is established, it will turn on the true church and this world religion's true nature will be revealed.

You can visit a temple in Qatar that has a Synagogue, Mosque and Church under the same roof. There is at least one working group that aims to facilitate the merger. You can see the appeal. Join this merged group and you will no longer be persecuted. Genuine believers are unlikely to be fooled, but there are many who are Christian in name only. What bothers me is how many Christians truly believe that Islam is only a little different from Christianity. Ignorance is not bliss. It is dangerous.
 
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You can visit a temple in Qatar that has a Synagogue, Mosque and Church under the same roof. There is at least one working group that aims to facilitate the merger. You can see the appeal. Join this merged group and you will no longer be persecuted.

I'd wager dollars to donuts that what we're actually seeing here is not some sort of bid to get everyone to "join up" with some kind of syncretic religion, but an outgrow of policies common across the gulf countries that prohibit the construction of new church buildings. I know that in Kuwait, for instance, there is a "multi-confessional" church building in which each Christian confession occupies its own floor. I know there's a floor for Coptic Orthodox (the person who told me about it had just gotten back to the States after staying in Kuwait for some time, and was a member of the Coptic Orthodox Church), another for Catholics, and I think another for whatever Protestant confession is dominant over there (Anglican, maybe? I can't remember). I suppose if being all housed in the same building is enough to accuse them all of some kind of ecumenical naughtiness, then so be it, but the point is that it's not by their own choosing that things are like that. Similar to how the first ever Coptic Orthodox liturgy was held recently in Saudi Arabia: Even though the authorities there (or more specifically, King Suliman himself) approved of it, it wasn't held in a church building because they obviously don't have those in Saudi Arabia.
 
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