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Why We Can't Trust What Obama Says About His Religion

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by pennmark, Mar 5, 2011.

  1. JoyJuice

    JoyJuice Senior Veteran

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    You guys all owe a hat tip to Paul, Jesus us just the icon.
     
  2. GQ Chris

    GQ Chris ooey gooey is for brownies, not Bible teachers

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    Paul never contradicted Jesus.
     
  3. JoyJuice

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    Jesus was Jew adhering to his religion, Jesus never started a new religon, Paul did.
     
  4. Notamonkey

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    False, Paul didn't start a religion, nor did Jesus. Paul had what we have, a relationship with Jesus and a direct path to God the father. The vail was torn when Jesus said "It is finished!"
     
  5. SOAD

    SOAD Why do they always send the poor? (S.O.A.D.)

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    Then who started Christianity?
     
  6. mandyangel

    mandyangel Regular Member

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    I don't think we can trust anything Obama says PERIOD.
     
  7. Notamonkey

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    It started on the Third day, Jesus did it. There would be no Christianity if there wasn't an empty tomb. Is this not obvious to you?
     
  8. SOAD

    SOAD Why do they always send the poor? (S.O.A.D.)

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    I understand exactly how Christianity started and by who.

    I am just confused by your conflicting statements. Either Jesus started the religion or he did not. Can you choose one or the other?
     
  9. SOAD

    SOAD Why do they always send the poor? (S.O.A.D.)

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    Still beating up Obama over the religious thing, I see :D


    I can't wait until we start beating up on Reverend Wright again!


    They were soooooo unChristian-like we may as well called the Moslems (herbies new thing).

    :D:D
     
  10. Notamonkey

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    Religion is what the Pharisees had, and we know what Jesus said about them. Jesus calls us to Him, and only Him as our means of salvation. He didn't start a religion. It's a relationship.
     
  11. SOAD

    SOAD Why do they always send the poor? (S.O.A.D.)

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    Alright, after going back and forth, you have decided that Jesus did not start the Christian religion. Glad we got the straightened out!

    If Jesus did not start the religion of Christianity, and neither did Paul or the Apostles, then who did?
     
  12. variant

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    What you've stated here is a religious belief, you have them because you belong to a religion.

    While it's ironic that you have religious beliefs that you don't belong to a religion it doesn't change the meaning of the word.
     
  13. Notamonkey

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    So says the world.:)
     
  14. DaisyDay

    DaisyDay blind squirrel

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    Yeah, his name is probably not even Obama and that wife and kids are probably rented.
     
  15. tulc

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    Well, he's a politician, so we should always check and make sure he's doing right, that's always a good thing to do. But not trust ANYTHING? That's a bit harsh...unless you don't trust anything anyone says? :confused:
    tulc(just curious) :wave:
     
  16. mandyangel

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    Obama has proven himself to be a liar. He not only broke many campaign promises but hes made the economic situation so much worse. He lied about the stimulus package, saying unemployment wouldn't go above 8%. He lied about the abortion language in the health care bill. And he has continually lied about his affiliations with Rev. Wright (not to mention his birth place).

    Why should I trust anything he says?
     
  17. JoyJuice

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    In order:

    False, true, false, false, in works, false, false.
     
  18. JoyJuice

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    I agree that Jesus didn't start and new religion, but Paul never met Jesus.
    Christianity is a gentile movement started with he who taught the gentiles his meaning of Jesus...that was clearly Paul.

    Jesus again is just the icon.

    Those sects Jesus, and quite Jewish adhering to Jewish customs, all died out.
     
  19. tulc

    tulc loves "SO'S YER MOM!! posts!

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    I'd be interested in links proving he lied about all of the above. :wave:
    tulc(wasn't mistaken, actually lied about them, please) :)
     
  20. mandyangel

    mandyangel Regular Member

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