saved24 said:

My sister made it through the month, praise the Lord. Thanks for your prayers. Praying for a new home for her as he son and wife look for a home they all can share, as her son in law is kicking her out. He and his wife need Jesus.

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May God bring them to the light of the gospel! Amen!

RDKirk said:

That's the way it's happened with me.

I think, though, it can. Muslims do get a picture of Jesus, albeit distorted.

But it appears to be enough for the Holy Spirit to stir--and I could not say how or why the Holy Spirit moves as He moves.

But I have a friend who has spent two decades as an undercover evangelist in Muslim countries. He is openly Christian, but is careful not to display himself as an evangelist.

But he reports that every so often, a Muslim man will approach him privately saying, "I see you are a very devout Christian. Teach me about Jesus."

My friend invites the man to his and his wife's home to read scripture--just to read, not to preach, not to indoctrinate, just to read. They go through the Gospels, then Acts, then Romans. If the Muslim sticks with him through all that reading, at the end of Romans he asks the Muslim, "What do you think of what we've read?"

My friend reports that 100% of the time, if the Muslim has stayed through all that, he will say, "I believe this--I want to baptized."

I'm not saying that the Muslim was converted by the scripture. I'm saying that the Holy Spirit had already called him to seek out scripture.

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I love the above post, though I am not sure I fully understand I fully understand what RDkirk is getting at. I do want to point out this Scripture:

Rom 10:17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.

Therefore, if we just read Scripture to someone and at the end they say they believe, it must have been that our Lord Jesus Christ spoke to them via His Holy Spirit while the Scriptures were being read, because it reads "comes from hearing" not reading. And the 'friend' above that is reading is not Christ, and Jesus clarified that His words are spirit, so not sound waves, and they come from the Holy Spirit!!

Jn 6:63 “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life.

The above verse explains why the Pharisees, even though they actually heard Jesus Christ speaking to the personally at that time, did not believe. They failed to understand that His words that had to hear were through the Holy Spirit. Not even heading words from Jesus Christ while He was in the flesh caused the Pharisees to believe, and Jesus did also reference Scriptures. So reading the Scriptures, having another person read the Scriptures, and they Scriptures do not save us, but life comes from the words of God, which belong to Jesus Christ, that come via the Holy Spirit cause us to believe in Him and that saves us!

AV1611VET said:

God gifts us scientists to do His will.

I defend penicillin and critique thalidomide.

The former is a gift of God, the later is a gift of Satan.

In my opinion.

And you want me off the Internet because I critique bad science, do you?

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While you consider yourself a legend in your own mind, you display a stunning lack of critical thinking skills.

If everything is so binary in your mind consider the case of fire, was it a gift from God as it provided warmth and cooking or a gift from Satan, as a weapon used by arsonists and burning people at the stake you don't like such as scientists and atheists.

There was a car accident. Christine, was airlifted to the Hospital, where she remains unconscious due to a brain hemorrhage. Their young daughter was airlifted to the Children’s Hospital and is fighting a spinal cord injury. Her husband also suffered a brain injury.

Christsfreeservant said:

1 Peter 3:20-22 BSB (Berean Standard Bible)

“20..In the days of Noah while the ark was being built, in the ark a few people, only eight souls, were saved through water. 21And this water symbolizes the baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body, but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers subject to Him.”​

There are many people today who are teaching the necessity of water baptism for salvation. But water baptism is not what saves us from our sins and which gives us eternal life with God. For one, many people go through the waters of baptism who never turn their hearts over to Jesus Christ to follow him in obedience and to put their sins behind them. For them, it was just a religious ritual they went through, but it did nothing to change their hearts, their minds, and their lifestyles. Therefore, it was just a formality.

And here we learn that it isn’t the physical water you go through which saves you, which removes the physical dirt from your body, but it is a pledge of a clear conscience toward God, through the death (wherein he put our sins to death) and the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. It is by faith in Jesus Christ, via dying with him to sin and now walking (in conduct, in practice) in obedience to God and to his commands, that the Scriptures teach is required of God for salvation from sin and for eternal life with God.

An Original Work / July 15, 2026
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Not in Cleverness of Speech

The apostle Paul speaking: “For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not in cleverness of speech, so that the cross of Christ would not be made void. For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.” (1 Corinthians 1:17-18 NASB1995)​

Water baptism, in and of itself, does not save people from their sins, nor does it give them the hope of eternal life with God. And it is not a prerequisite to salvation from sin nor to being filled with the Holy Spirit. The baptism that we undergo which regenerates is being baptized spiritually into Christ Jesus, and into his death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead, we also might walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin, but now as servants of righteousness in walks of obedience to our Lord.

[Matthew 3:13-17; Matthew 10:11-12; Mark 10:37-39; John 1:29-34; Acts 9:15-18; Acts 10:44-48; Acts 18:7-8; Acts 22:12-16; Romans 6:1-7]

And here, it appears that Paul is separating water baptism from the preaching of the gospel, as though they are not one and the same. Yes, water baptism accompanied people’s faith in Jesus Christ. I believe it was an outward testimony of an inward faith. But anyone can go through the waters of baptism and never be saved from their sins. But if one is not baptized in water it does not nullify their salvation nor their eternal life with God. Only habitual sin and disobedience to God will nullify one’s profession of faith.

So, what is the gospel message that God called Paul to preach? You can read about it in the New Testament epistles. But here is a 4 part summary of it:

Jesus Christ taught that to come to him we must deny self, take up our cross daily (die daily to sin), and follow (obey) him. For if we hold on to living in sin and for self, we will lose our lives for eternity. But if we deny self, die daily to sin, by the Spirit, and we walk in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in his power, then we have eternal life with God. For not everyone who calls him “Lord” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one DOING (obeying) the will of God (see Luke 9:23-26; Matthew 7:21-23).

For by God-gifted faith in Jesus Christ, which is not of our own doing, we are crucified with Christ in death to sin and raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin but as slaves to righteousness in walks of obedience to God’s commands. We are no longer to permit sin to reign in our mortal bodies to make us obey its desires. For if sin is what we obey, it results in death. But if obedience to God is what we obey, it results in sanctification, and its end is eternal life with God (see Romans 6:1-23).

The grace of God, which is bringing us salvation, is training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives while we wait for Jesus’ return. For Christ “gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.” “For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.” (See Titus 2:11-14; Ephesians 2:8-10)

And we learn in 1 John 1-3 that if we claim that we have fellowship with God, but yet we walk in darkness (sin), we are liars. If we claim that we know God, but we do not obey his commandments, in practice, we are liars. For it is not the one who claims he is “in Christ” who is “in Christ,” but it is the one who has denied self, died with Christ to sin, and who is now walking in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in practice, and no longer in sin. We have the hope and the promise of eternal life with God in heaven.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 1:12-13; John 6:44; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:23-31; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10]

But for those who are perishing in their sins, they find this gospel message to be nonsense to them. And they want no part of it. But sadly this includes multitudes of people who profess faith in Jesus Christ, who are convinced that all their sins are forgiven and that they are on their way to heaven, but who have not died to sin, and who are not walking in obedience to our Lord’s commands because someone convinced them that God does not require that for salvation. But if sin is our practice, and not obedience to our Lord and to his commands, we will indeed not inherit eternal life with God. Believe it!

Not in Cleverness of Speech
An Original Work / November 21, 2025
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Walking in The Light

Based off 1 John 1-2
An Original Work / November 16, 2011
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

When I lift up my voice, and
Sing praise unto God,
I will fellowship with my
Lord and Savior, King.
In Him there is no darkness.
He is in the light of truth.
If we walk in His light,
From sin He purifies.

If we repent of our sins,
He’ll forgive us now,
When we humble ourselves, and
Before Jesus bow.
The man who says, “I know Him,”
But does not obey His truth,
There is no truth in him.
In darkness still he’s found.

Do not love the world of sin,
For it is hell bound.
If you follow the world, you’ll
Not in Christ be found.
The world and its desires
Will not last; they’ll expire.
The one who does God’s will,
Receives eternal life.

See that what you have heard from
Christ remains in you.
Then, you’ll remain in Christ, and
In His Father, too.
This is what He promised us –
His eternal life with God.
So, continue in Him, and
You’ll receive a crown.

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And can not reply as you are mixing verses from Matthew and not form Paul the APOSTLE TO. THE GENTILES. !!

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ThatRobGuy said:

If it was just donating to a regular Democratic candidate, that may be different.

Donating to a cause (and participating in a group) that opposes a specific person, by name, calls objectivity into question.

If I was a member of a group called "Defeat Belk by any means necessary", would you want me to a be a judge in a case involving you? Or would you say "Hey, wait a minute, Rob's already made his opinions about me known about me and wants to "defeat" me, this isn't going to be a fair day in court"

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Let us know when the judge is disciplined for judicial misconduct.

Hamlowe said:

I admit I can't fathom how that would be undone.

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God’s grace

I hope it never happens. I especially hope it never happens before the 2026 elections because Trump will try to compare it to 9/11.

We didn't start the war on 9/11.
This time Trump did.

A man stepped through the bat-wing doors of a dusty 1900s saloon, boots clicking on the warped floorboards. He spotted a lawman hunched over a table, nursing a drink, badge glinting in the lamplight.

The stranger slid into the chair across from him.
“Suppose I told you I could counterfeit this silver dollar,” he said, placing the coin on the table, “without a minting press… and without a speck of silver.”

The lawman snorted. “I’d like to see that.”

Before the lawman could blink, another fellow — dressed plain as a farmhand — walked up and handed the stranger an uncirculated silver dollar. Same year. Same markings. Same shine. The stranger passed it to the lawman.

“Who was that?” the lawman asked, slipping the coin into his vest pocket.
“Just a business associate,” the stranger replied.

He pushed the original coin toward the lawman. “Buy me a whisky and we’ll talk.”
The lawman obliged. The stranger downed the glass in one smooth motion, wiped his mouth with the back of his hand, and said, “Check your pocket again.”
The lawman reached into his vest. His fingers brushed cloth, stitching, lint… but no coin. He checked the other pocket. Nothing. He stood, patting himself down,
confusion rising like the heat of the desert.

“It’s not there,” he muttered.

The stranger tipped his hat, stepped out into the evening dust, and vanished into the street. No one in town ever saw him again...

Some unusual animals like lemons.

MEUNU

Jesus did not return to earth in 1843.

Here is another passage, long after the failure of Jesus to come in 1843, where Ellen White says that Miller's false message regarding Jesus coming at that time was a work of God's providence, and a test.


Of course, those who knew the words of Christ pointed out even before the event failed that Scripture ruled out such a time-setting message:

The Pillar, for those who don't know, is one of the best sources for solid Catholic journalism with limited bias and consistently good reporting. Here they discuss the possibility that Pope Leo might be visiting Ukraine soon, and the accompanying rumors that he may be elevating the head of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church, Major Archbishop Sviatoslav Shevchuk, to the status of a Patriarch. This follows ++Shevchuk's announcement that the UGCC, the second-largest branch of Catholicism after the Latin, has put together its own code of canon law, to be used alongside the Code for the Eastern Churches. He called this something that "mature churches" do, which may hint at a desire for elevation.

As the analysis notes, since Vatican II the head of the UGCC has been designated a "major archbishop," a status that's quite close to patriarch but admittedly something of a legal fiction, probably aimed at holding out hope for ecumenical developments with the Russian Orthodox Church. Given ++Kirill's heartless persecution of the Ukrainian Catholics and Orthodox, is it possible that Leo is seeing the time for such olive branches has passed? Should Kyiv once again be recognized as the mother church of Rus'?

And speaking of which, is it Kyiv or Kiev? I always read Kiev growing up, but noticed the change on account of the war and Ukraine asserting the right to their preferred latinization of the name. But then the Pillar goes and spells it Kiev the whole way! What gives?

joechristianwarrior said:

One of the biggest impediments from us actually finding God's will is refusing to forsake our own.
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Matthew 6:22-24 BSB (Berean Standard Bible)


The Eye is Discernment

The human eye is not just representative of our body part which helps us to see or which might hinder us from seeing physically. The “eye” is also a word having to do with wisdom, judgment, discernment, and common sense, either excelling in it or failing in it. So this has to do also with spiritual insight with regard to good and to evil. Either we make right, just, and godly choices and decisions, or we make unrighteous, wicked, sinful, and ungodly choices with regard to how we live, and what we say, and who we obey.

If Your Eyes are Good

So, if our eyes (insight, judgment, discernment, wisdom) are good, of God, and not of our flesh, then our whole being will be full of light. And our whole being has to do with mind, body, heart, words, behaviors, attitudes, and values, i.e. the things we crave, and watch, and listen to, that they would not be against God; that they would not be sinful and evil. And light is Jesus/God, and light is truth and righteousness, and it is the gospel of our salvation and holy living and obedience to our Lord’s commands, in practice.

If Your Eyes are Bad

But if our eyes (wisdom, judgments) are bad (evil, wicked, sinful, immoral), then our whole being will be full of darkness (the opposite of light, i.e. what is evil and sinful). The evil will permeate our whole being, what we think, what we speak, how we respond to people and to situations, the choices that we make, and what we take into our minds and hearts and ears and eyes. For this all comes down to what we obey – God? Or sin? God? Or self? Righteousness and obedience to God? Or selfish and fleshly desires?

You Can’t Serve Two Masters

No one can serve two masters (rulers, leaders, bosses). We can’t serve (bow to, obey, follow) both God and mammon (the treasure a person trusts in). So this isn’t limited to just God and money, but God and anything we treasure and obey and serve above God or in place of God in our lives. So Jesus is not our Lord if what we obey is sin, immorality, selfish desires, etc., and if we do not obey his commands (New Covenant and moral). And addiction (slavery) to sin will lead to hell and not to life eternal with God.

Choose, But Choose Wisely

For Jesus Christ taught that to come to him we must deny self, take up our cross daily (die daily to sin), and follow (obey) him. For if we hold on to living in sin and for self, we will lose our lives for eternity. But if we deny self, die daily to sin, by the Spirit, and we walk in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in his power, then we have eternal life with God. For not everyone who calls him “Lord” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one DOING (obeying) the will of God (see Luke 9:23-26; Matthew 7:21-23).

For by God-gifted faith in Jesus Christ, which is not of our own doing, we are crucified with Christ in death to sin and raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin but as slaves to righteousness in walks of obedience to God’s commands. We are no longer to permit sin to reign in our mortal bodies to make us obey its desires. For if sin is what we obey, it results in death. But if obedience to God is what we obey, it results in sanctification, and its end is eternal life with God (see Romans 6:1-23).

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 1:18-32; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 3:23; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; Romans 12:1-2; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10,19-20; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; 2 Corinthians 5:10,15,21; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:1-19; Hebrews 4:1-13; Hebrews 10:19-39; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:1-6; 1 John 3:4-10; Revelation 2:1-29; Revelation 3:1-22]

You Can’t Have it Both Ways
An Original Work / July 26, 2026
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

As the Deer

By Martin J. Nystrom
Based off Psalm 42:1

As the deer panteth for the water
So my soul longeth after You
You alone are my heart's desire
And I long to worship You

You alone are my strength, my shield
To You alone may my spirit yield
You alone are my heart's desire
And I long to worship You

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AGODBELIEVERlove1stfaith2 said:

Seventh Day

Sabbath

Listen to Seventh Day Sign by George Andrew Simons on #SoundCloud

Seventh Day Sign

A gospel song of the true Sabbath for Christian. Not Sunday worship but the 7th Day Sabbath on Saturday.

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Beautiful! God's gift to mankind, to spend sacred time with us. Thanks for posting this.

What light does Franciscan spirituality shed on today’s issues and what perspectives does the dialogue reveal?

What happens if we approach the problem of climate change in such a way that there is absolutely nothing in the process that we consider our property?

What if the new loneliness in a digitalized world is approached with the question of whose impressions one is following?

What if poverty were not only approached as a problem to be solved, but also as a brotherhood to be rediscovered?

I hope Republicans have enough fortitude not to Support him in a third term Run..

For you, how does hope differ from belief?

Also, I wanted to refer you to a few more scrupulosity resources...

OCD and Scrupulosity - ACCFS
Breaking Free of OCD: My Battle With Mental Pain and How God Rescued Me by Jeff Wells
Strivings Within - The OCD Christian: Overcoming Doubt in the Storm of Anxiety by Mitzi VanCleve

7thKeeper said:

But... If you have no idea, there isn't a message and you aren't a messenger.

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Yeah I AM!

Although something I was unaware of is the use of community-made pc ports. With certain mods, including HD texture packs, maybe things can be tweaked more to a gamers liking. And one of the cool things is that gaming consoles will be more like hybrids of console and PC in the future

Paidiske said:

In Australia, the comparable issue is about reconciliation between Indigenous and non-Indigenous folks. My observation is that we are, as a church, so far at least trying to be good at talking the talk, trying less to be good at solid concrete action.

But I would push back, slighly, on the idea that you don't need money to do things like challenge racism. I've seen successful programmes aimed at challenging sexism, and sure, you need the Spirit to be at work to make that happen, but it seems to help if you have resources; teaching resources, small group resources, paid staff who can run workshops and do research and so on. Money can definitely help.

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It is vast sums as direct compensation straight to the descendents of the victims I am a bit more cautious about.

Anything that conveys information and supports stronger community cohesion gets my vote, that is usually cost effective stuff.

Peace in Christ.

We hear the Word of God preached in the truth and receive it as such.

This is the imperishable Seed that keeps us imperishable in this age as we shall not mortally die but shall have an age-lasting life for this current age.

We receive the true Word of God…the Word of Truth…and believe in Him who preaches it. We hear His voice and retain that imperishable Seed in our hearts which effectually works in those that believe.

It keeps us “living and remaining” INTO THE AGE.

1st Peter 1:23:
being begotten again, not out of seed perishable, but imperishable, through the word of God -- living and remaining -- into the age;

The “word of men” on the other hand is the preaching of the Word of God in error. It is the “perishable seed” that many are keeping.

The man-based churches are all preaching in error….wresting the Scriptures to their own mortal destruction. Their “private interpretations” of the Scriptures is NOT saving the flesh of any one who retains their “seed” in their hearts. MANY are mortally perishing by the receiving of the word of men…the perishable seed.

No flesh is being saved in any man-based church (which is organized by their church handwritings: statements of faith, church constitutions and by-laws, creeds, etc).

1Th 2:13-14 KJV
(13) For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

They…the man-based churches….organized religion (which is structured upon man’s handwritings of ordinances/dogmas)… will NOT BELIEVE in what they hear Him preaching…His interpretation of the Scripture of Truth.

Our own “countrymen” will persecute us for believing His interpretation of the Scripture of Truth over their “private” erroneous interpretation of the Scriptures.

(14) For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:

We shall be persecuted by members of our own “household”…our own church that we attended. A man’s foes shall be THEY of his OWN HOUSEHOLD.

Mat 10:36-40
(36) And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

But we are to love Him who speaks to us the Word of Truth more than they of our own church family who are preaching things in error of the understanding of the Scriptures and will not believe in the Word of Truth when they will hear it. If we love our pastor ("father or mother") more than Him, we are not worthy of Him. The church leader who loves his congregation more than Him is not worthy of Him.

(37) He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

In this context, we are take up our cross….our stake…and follow after Him. We are to pull up our stakes in the man-based churches and follow after Him who leads us out of them. We are no longer to be fixed in them but leave it all behind and follow Him out of the man-based churches who are living in error of the Truth.

What does a believer (of the Word of Truth) have in common with the unbelievers (who will not believe in the Word of Truth and will seek to keep their man-based church teachings and commandments of men).?

(38) And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

We are to lose our life…that is, soul….for His sake.

We are to lose what we had once thought and cherished (the man-based church ways and thoughts) in order to gain the excellency of the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

(39) He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

Isn’t that what Saul/ Paul did?

Php 3:6-10 KJV
(6) Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.

The religious things that he once was very zealous for …the things that he had thought were gain…he counted as a loss for Christ. He did lose his soul in order to gain it.

(7) But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.

He counted all those previous religious things as a loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus our Lord. He suffered the loss of all those things and did count them as dung so that he may win Christ.

We are to do the same.

(8) Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,

Saul/Paul did not go about defending his own “righteousness” which for Paul was of the Law.

We also must not be found of Him trying to defend our own works of righteousness which is mandated by our church denominational handwritings of ordinances/dogmas that we once held onto as “truth”.

We are to count all of the man-based church things as a loss….losing one’s soul..by the faith of Christ…believing in what He says. His knowledge that we hear is Truth while the man-based church “truth” is false.

(9) And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
(10) That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

If the “world”…the orderly arrangement of the man-based churches…organized religion…hates you, know that it hated Him before it hated you. The “religious” people persecuted Him back in the day…and the same things will happen to us today when we believe Him over them.

Joh 15:18-21 KJV
(18) If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

He chooses us out of the world…the orderly arrangement of the man-based churches. We come out from among them….pulling up our stake in them and follow Him out of them. It is expedient that we go away from them….following Him out. The world….the orderly arrangement of the man-based churches…will hate us for it.

Those who will not pull up their stakes out of them and follow Him out of them are not worthy of Him.

(19) If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

They will hate us and persecute us for believing in Him as we hear His Word and keep it.

(20) Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

We know God by having love. Those who do not show love do not know God for God is love.

(21) But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.

But we overcome them. We come out from among them and be separate.

1Jn 4-8 KJV
(4) Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

They that are of the world…the orderly arrangement of the man-based churches…speak of the world and the world hears them. The unbelievers (of the Word of Truth) in the man-based churches will continue listening to their church leaders who preach from the spirit of error.

(5) They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.

They will not hear the Word of Truth preached in the Spirit of Truth but will continue to listen to their false prophets and follow after their false teachers who will teach and lead by example in doing evil towards those who will believe in what they hear the true Christ preaching. We know God when we keep His commandment to have love fore one another. Love is of God and every one that loves is born of God. Those who are born of God will hear and believe the Spirit of Truth when they will hear it.

(6) We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

The unbelievers will not show love towards one who will preach the Word of Truth. They will not be of God because they will not show love towards the brothers who will come preaching the Word in the Spirit of Truth to their hearing ears.

(7) Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
(8) He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

But those who are born of God will show love towards the brothers who come preaching the Word of Truth to them. They will not sin….speak evil of them.

Those who will commit sin…doing unrighteousness against what they hear Him saying and those brothers sent to preach His words…are the children of the devil.

1Jn 3:7-10 KJV
(7) Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

The Son of God comes to give them an understanding of the Scriptures…and they react with evil words and deeds in their unbelief of what they hear Him preaching. They that commit sin is of the devil as they will not do righteousness towards Him. They will choose what He does not delight in. The wicked ...the tares...will reveal themselves as they will hear the Word of Truth and will behave badly towards it.

(8) He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

But whosoever is born of God will not commit sin for His Seed (the Word of Truth) REMAINS in him. The believers will hear and retain it and will do well towards it. He cannot sin against the Truth because he is born of God.

(9) Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
(10) In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.