Not David said:

Lord have mercy!

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Its eye opening to say the least...

Job 33:6 said:

Also, I don't interpret Barbarian as disagreeing here, because I don't think that Barbarian is suggesting that ensoulment has to be an intervention distinguishable from ordinary biological causation, even though it is a divine act.

But he can share his thoughts.

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I tend to agree. If you look at the development of belief it begins simple and rudimentary and develops into a sophisticated belief. To the point where humans can know God. Become spiritual.

It seems belief naturally evolved until the point where humans could have relation with God. Took on Gods image. Before that point belief was simple and not refined to be Gods image. Humans were not capable of knowing God in a way that the bible authors explain.

So maybe there was a point in the evolution of belief itself that became awakened so to speak in humans simply by the natural course of humans evolving their knowledge to a point they could take on the image of God. Out of all creation it was only humans who could achieve this.

This says something about consciousness as well. That conscious awareness increased and became God conscious. This transcends the physical evolution and into the spiritual.

9Rock9 said:

I personally think there were [other humans back in Adam and Eve's time], and some verses imply that.

For instance, Cain is worried someone might kill him after they found out what he did. If he and his parents were the only people around at the time, who exactly was he afraid of? He also later goes on to found a city. How can you have a city with just three people at most? …

I'm curious as to what others think?

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There is no explicit statement in the Bible that other people existed at the time of Adam and Eve, but there is clear indirect statements and indications.

For example, when Cain was banished from Eden to homeless wandering, he expressed fear: “Whoever finds me will kill me” (Gen 4:14). Notably, he does not use a kinship term like “brothers” (אַחִים, ʾāḥîm) or “house of my father” (בֵּית אָבִי, bêt ʾābî), but rather an open and indefinite “whoever” (כּל, kôl). He is not worried about revenge from his family but the vulnerability of exile, of no longer belonging to God’s protected community. He is not afraid of remaining among kin, but about being cast out from among them. So, God reassures him that divine protection will follow him in exile, such that Cain will be avenged sevenfold if anyone kills him (v. 15).

A similar pressure emerges when we consider the world in which Abraham lived—a world of cities, kingdoms, and civilizations stretching from Uruk in Sumer to the Longshan culture in China. The global population was roughly 25 million people, about 4 million of which lived in Mesopotamia and the surrounding Near East alone. Attempting to derive that world from just eight people in only 300 years misses the demographic target by nearly three orders of magnitude. From the Flood to Abraham, the young-earth creationist model comes in about 500 times too low. The picture coheres, however, if we carry forward the population implied already in Cain’s fear, treating the biblical genealogies as covenantal lineages (which a redemptive-historical hermeneutic would have us do) rather than exhaustive census records.

This also entails denying a global Flood with a universal biological bottleneck, but there are a lot of good reasons for doing that—textual, theological, scientific, historical—and rather poor reasons to keep it, which is why it’s basically just young-earth creationists who believe it.

(One also must keep in mind that the population of Egypt during the Exodus—often given as ~1450 BCE—was around 2 million. One's population growth rate must take that into account.)

Edited to add: I am reading a new book, The Generations of Heaven and Earth by Jon Garvey (2020), and he adds an interesting piece of indirect biblical evidence for non-Adamic humans, evidence I had not considered before. In this chapter, “Where Are All the People in Genesis,” he details nine pieces of evidence—some of which mirrors what I’ve argued here—but the one that struck me regarded Genesis 4:26, “At that time people began to call upon the name of the LORD.”

“Which men would those be?” he asks rhetorically. In Genesis, the expression “calling on the name of the Lord” is covenantal language typically denoting formal worship, often in a sacrificial context. Its appearance in connection with Seth’s line should therefore be jarringly unexpected. His parents had known Yahweh face to face, and his older brothers had worshipped him with offerings. It is quite unlikely, then, that Seth’s family were those who “began” to call upon the name of the LORD. Garvey argues that this verse “appears to suggest that some outsiders began to worship Yahweh, either under his covenant name or at least in substance.”

Now the introduction of outsiders to Yahweh, like the growth of population recorded in these chapters, would actually be a limited fulfilment of the commission that God had always intended for Adam, and so it has a logical place in the unfolding story. This mission was impaired, but not cancelled, by the Fall, just as the parallel commission of Israel, marred from the start by the rebellion at Mount Sinai, nevertheless moved forward under the hand of God.

Greg Beale deals with this at length in A New Testament Biblical Theology, tracing the commission down through its various bearers from Noah onwards, and writes:

After Adam’s sin, the commission would be expanded to include renewed humanity’s reign over unregenerate human forces arrayed against it. Hence, the language of “possessing the gate of their enemies” is included, which elsewhere is stated as “subduing the land …”​

Such an understanding takes what is otherwise both a curious and (in the absence of an outside population) incomprehensible snippet of information and ties it into the whole missiological purpose of Genesis, the Torah, and indeed the whole Bible. Adam’s people are damaged goods, but God’s word was not spoken in vain. But in order for this to be the case, we need to see and acknowledge the “invisible” population surrounding the new-creation population which Yahweh has seeded into the world. Somehow people began to perceive the Lord through this family—perhaps through intermarriage, even—and to call on the name of the Lord.

Paul tells us that “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” Perhaps this verse includes some of the very first followers of Christ in history.

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Jon Garvey, The Generations of Heaven and Earth: Adam, the Ancient World, and Biblical Theology (Eugene, OR: Cascade Books, 2020).

What if the antichrist, in claiming to be God, doesn’t actually verbalize the words, “I am God”? But his claim is more in how he presents himself as though he is God, as though he is a supreme being to be worshipped above all else, who has golden statues of himself made and put on display for the world to see. For he is egotistical, loud mouthed, hateful, blasphemous, arrogant, immoral, and crude, and he boasts of how great he is and of all his many accomplishments, and how he is better than everyone else. For he thinks he owns the whole world, and that the world should all bow to him.

For, remember, he is a man of deception and trickery. And remember how the Scriptures describe false teachers/prophets as those who are “wolves in sheep’s clothing.” What if the antichrist, in order to fool the people of the world, disguises himself as a Christian, and as one who believes in Jesus and in the one true God of this world? And what if he fakes worship of Jesus and the one true God in order to deceive Christians into thinking he is one of them so that they will follow him? For they will assume a profession of faith constitutes genuine faith in Jesus, and then he will have their support.

And what if “taking his seat in the temple of God” (see Revelation 13:1-10), has to do with him faking Christianity in order to place himself in a position of superiority within the gatherings of the church, i.e. among all who profess faith in Jesus Christ? And so the majority (perhaps) of those who claim to be Christians end up following him blindly, almost in a worshipful way, as though he is a god to be worshipped and/or as though he was sent by God as some kind of a “savior” for all of mankind, who can do no wrong. And so they believe everything he says, and support him no matter what.

So, you say, the antichrist is the one who denies the Father and the Son, which is true (1 John 2:22). But then how do you think he will deceive even the elect? Certainly the elect will not be fooled by someone who verbally denies God the Father and God the Son, Jesus Christ. But he is a deceiver who disguises himself, initially, in order to gain followers, just like the “wolves in sheep’s clothing.” For denying Christ doesn’t have to be verbal at all if one denies him by their lifestyles, by their words, their deeds, their actions, and their behaviors. Many who profess Jesus deny him in action.

And this is where it gets interesting. In Revelation 13 we read about two beasts, one coming out of the sea, and another from the earth. And this second beast (with two heads, which I believe could be representative of the church in a marriage relationship with the government, i.e. the institutional church) makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed. So what if a false prophet who also claims to believe in Jesus, who is highly regarded in the Christian community, is promoting this first beast, which is then getting “Christians” to follow him?

We have to not have blinders on so that we miss all of what is happening in our present age in fulfillment of the prophesies of the Scriptures, so that we end up worshipping the beast instead of (in place of) God – Father, Son Jesus Christ, and Holy Spirit. For there is so much deception going on in our day. So many liars and deceivers and wolves in sheep’s clothing all over the place teaching lies to the people and convincing so many to believe the lies and to reject the truth of the gospel taught by Jesus and his New Testament apostles, taught in the correct biblical context, and not out of context.

For Jesus Christ taught that to come to him we must deny self, take up our cross daily (die daily to sin), and follow (obey) him. For if we hold on to living in sin and for self, we will lose our lives for eternity. But if we deny self, die daily to sin, by the Spirit, and we walk in obedience to our Lord and to his commands, in his power, then we have eternal life with God. For not everyone who calls him “Lord” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one DOING (obeying) the will of God (see Luke 9:23-26; Matthew 7:21-23).

So, please understand that the antichrist is not going to be obvious. Otherwise he loses his power to deceive. But also realize that the Scriptures teach that there are many antichrists and that all who deny Jesus as the Christ (in action, not just in words) are the antichrist. So the antichrist (one person or many people or a group of people) is not going to be wearing a sign saying, “I am the antichrist.” So don’t assume you are going to easily spot him, for even the elect will be deceived by false christs and false prophets who claim to be speaking for God, in his name (Matthew 24:24).

[Matthew 7:15-23; Matthew 24:11-24; Luke 6:26; John 10:1-15; Romans 16:17-19; 2 Corinthians 11:3,13-15; Ephesians 4:11-16; Philippians 3:2; 2 Peter 2:1-22; 1 Thessalonians 5:19-22; 1 Timothy 1:3-7; 1 Timothy 6:3-10; 2 Timothy 3:1-9; 1 John 2:18-22; 1 John 4:1-6; 2 John 1:7; Jude 1:1-25]

For Our Nation

An Original Work / September 11, 2012
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love
Recording Via Gerry Peters, music producer and arranger

Bombs are bursting. Night is falling.
Jesus Christ is gently calling
You to follow Him in all ways.
Trust Him with your life today.
Make Him your Lord and your Savior.
Turn from your sin. Follow Jesus.
He will forgive you of your sin;
Cleanse your heart, made new within.

Men betraying: Our trust fraying.
On our knees to God we’re praying,
Seeking God to give us answers
That are only found in Him.
God is sovereign over all things.
Nothing from His mind escaping.
He has all things under His command,
And will work all for good.

Jesus Christ is gently calling
You to follow Him in all ways.

Men deceiving: We’re believing
In our Lord, and interceding
For our nation and its people
To obey their God today.
He is our hope for our future.
For our wounds He offers suture.
He is all we need for this life.
Trust Him with your life today.

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Understanding the Antichrist
An Original Work / February 11, 2026
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Please pray The Holy Spirit heals, comforts and provides for all those affected by the gun shooting violence that occurred on 10Feb2026 in Tumbler, Ridge, BC, Canada:

Canada will pay dearly for not following American procurement law!

prodromos said:

I'm happy that he looked up to his father and sees him as his hero. Hopefully that will carry him through his disappointment as he discovers how wrong his father was about certain topics.

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I doubt he could ever see disappointment in his fathers hundreds of videos he made, I can't see how he ever could as his father was a truther & the comments below the video prove this.

There are certain people today called “cessationists” who believe that some of the Spiritual gifts of God, listed for us in the Scriptures, are no longer valid. But that theory is anti-biblical. And they will use 1 Corinthians 13:8-10 as one of their main sources for this theory of theirs. But, when taught in the correct biblical context, their theory does not “hold water.” For in the last days (now) God will pour out His Spirit on both male and female, and they will prophesy (proclaim God’s Word), and will have dreams, and see visions (see Acts 2:15-18 and Joel 2:28-32). Test them. Yes! But don’t disregard all.


Now, to be honest, the only reason that I am on the internet is that 21 years ago the Lord called me to this ministry, some through dreams and visions, and some through the passage in Habakkuk 2:2-3, but all through the voice of the Holy Spirit speaking within me showing me the way that the Lord had planned for me from even before he created the world. But the cessationists would have none of that. They would tell me that God doesn’t speak to us that way, but only through the written word of God. And if I had listened to them, instead of to the Holy Spirit, I would never have come to the internet.

So, let’s look at what that would look like if I had ignored God’s calling upon my life, and if I had listened to the cessationists, instead. And none of this I am mentioning is of my own doing, nor could it ever be, but all this is of God, and of his working in my life and through me for his glory. So there is no pride in any of what I am going to share with you, for all this was God working through me as I yielded to his control, and I did what he said, and I said what he gave me to write and to share with the people on the internet.

In a way, this is kind of like one of those “if you had never been born” kind of stories where they show you what the world would look like if you had not existed, and if you had not had the impact that you had on the people of the earth. Only this will be looking more at the kinds of things which would not have happened if you had not listened to the Lord, and if you had listened to other humans, instead, who were teaching the Scriptures out of context, and who would tell you that God cannot speak to you in that way.

So, this is for all of you who have heard the Spirit speaking within you, showing you the way that he has for you, and the gifts and ministries he has for you, but who have been shot down by cessationists who tell you that God doesn’t work that way, and that God can speak to you only through the written word. But the written word does not say, “Sue Love, I am calling you to write down what I talk with you about, to the best of your understanding, and to post these writings on the internet for a ‘herald to run with it.’”

And, again, none of this is of me or of my flesh or my doing. I just listen to the Lord, write down what I hear him say, and I post it on the internet. What happens before, during, and after that is in the hands of God, not mine!

Over the past 21 years the Lord has given me over 10,000 documents to write, and/or to record, and to post on the internet, now on seven different internet sites. Some of them are/were dreams and visions (primarily at the beginning), which were primarily used as parables. Some of them are songs, some are poems, some are memes (devotions), and some are video talks (not writings), but they have writings to go with them. And a few were testimonies in the form of short books. Most of them are me sharing my times of fellowship with the Lord and what I am hearing from him.

Now, at first, I didn’t even know if anyone was reading, viewing, or listening to any of these, for I got few responses, until I discovered “Stats.” And then I realized that people from over 100 different nations were/are viewing these documents or videos, and these posts were getting a large number of reads, even if I did not get many responses. And that encouraged my heart. But did I do this? No! God did! He just did it through me, but it all came from him, and I am just the messenger. So all the glory goes to God and not to me.

But think with me a moment on this. What if I had listened to cessationists, and not to God. None of this would have happened. None of these over 10,000 documents would have ever gone out to people in nations all over the world. And most of what I write about is the gospel of our salvation, and I share what I am getting from the Lord in my times with him in his word each day. So these presentations of the gospel would not have reached the people of the world, either, well not through me, anyway. But so many people today are not teaching the truth, but lies to coddle people in their sin.

So, don’t listen to the naysayers who tell you that God no longer speaks through dreams and visions, or through other sources that are not specifically the canon of the Scriptures, and that he no longer uses some of the spiritual gifts he provided for his people. The Lord even uses cockroaches and lady bugs and spiders, in what they represent, in what they are doing, kind of like dreams, as symbols of what the Scriptures talk about, and to let me know what he would have me write about that day. And none of this is antibiblical. For they can be just like the kind of parables that Jesus spoke.

But we need to be aware that the devil will try to counterfeit God and his voice and his messages, so we need to test everything we believe is of God against the Scriptures to make sure that what we are hearing or seeing does not contradict the Scriptures and their teachings. But don’t limit God to just the canon of the Scriptures, for Jesus did send us the Holy Spirit to indwell us, to teach us all things, and to counsel, to encourage, and to warn. So, we have to be able to hear the Spirit speaking within us so we know God’s calling on our lives and we know what he wants us to do and to say.

Body of Christ, Spiritual Gifts, Spiritual Ministries

[Matthew 5:13-16; Matthew 28:18-20; John 4:31-38; John 13:13-17; John 14:12; Acts 1:8; Acts 2:14-18,42-47; Acts 26:18; Romans 10:14-15; Romans 12:1-8; 1 Corinthians 12:1-31; 1 Corinthians 14:1-5; Galatians 6:1; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:1-16; Ephesians 5:11-21; Ephesians 6:10-20; Philippians 2:1-8; Colossians 3:12-16; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:13; Hebrews 10:23-25; James 5:19-20; 1 Peter 2:9,21; 1 John 2:6]

The Lord’s Anointed

Based off Isaiah 61
An Original Work / December 16, 2011
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

The Spirit of the Sov’reign Lord on me;
Anointed to preach the Good News;
Sent me to bind up the brokenhearted;
Proclaim freedom for the captives.
He sent me to preach release for pris’ners
Who are walking in sin’s darkness;
Proclaim God’s grace to all men who’ll listen;
And tell them about God’s judgments;
Comfort all who mourn;
Give crowns of beauty;
Oil of gladness and thanksgiving.

They will be called oaks of God’s righteousness,
A planting of our Savior, God,
For the display of our Lord’s splendor, and
They will rebuild God’s holy church.
God will renew them, and will restore them,
And you’ll be called priests of the Lord.
You will be ministers of our God, and
You will rejoice in salvation.
The Lord loves justice;
He is faithful to
Reward those who are seeking Him.

I delight greatly in the Lord;
My soul rejoices in my Savior, God.
He has clothed me with His salvation,
And in a robe of His righteousness.
He has given me priestly garments to wear,
As the bride of Jesus Christ.
As the garden of our Lord and Savior,
He causes us to grow in Him.
He makes righteousness,
Praise, and thanksgiving
Spring up before all the nations.

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Why Am I Here?
An Original Work / February 11, 2026
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

I'm listening to whatever this is:

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DaisyDay said:

Does the Trump administration think that it can change the US revenue system from Congress passed tax revenue to Donald's Own tariff system by wrecking the IRS?

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I don't think he cares about that as much as he cares about protecting his friends. After all, if the IRS is able to audit anyone they want to, who knows what kinds of shenanigans they might uncover.

-- A2SG, and I'll bet, among Trump's friends, there's a lot of shenanigans going on.....

Motivated by their faith, 70,000 Mexican young people made the pilgrimage to the shrine of Christ the King, which commemorates the martyrs of the Cristero War period.


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We have to learn not to criticize others; explaining the word of God makes some people angry, If that happens, leave them alone. Pray for them. Be sure to encourage people when they do good.

People who abuse their children and claim to be Christians are not Christians.

"Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."
Matt. 5:17 KJV

Archbishop William Lori urged Catholics to approach public life with synodal listening and civic virtue, drawing on Blessed Michael McGivney’s example of serving immigrant

Archbishop Lori issues pastoral letter on political life in honor of 250th anniversary of the U.S.​

Archbishop William Lori urged Catholics to approach public life with synodal listening and civic virtue, drawing on Blessed Michael McGivney’s example of serving immigrant families.


Archbishop William Lori of Baltimore urged Catholics to foster a political culture grounded in Christ by prioritizing human dignity and genuine encounter amid partisan divisions.

“In Charity and Truth: Toward a Renewed Political Culture,” released in anticipation of the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, is among the nine pastoral letters and reflections Lori has written as archbishop of Baltimore. The Feb. 9 letter explored how the anniversary can be “a moment of grace” and one of “responsibility.”
The U.S. can both take pride in its achievements and “the vibrancy of our Catholic faith” while also recognizing “the fractures, wounds, and crises that mark both our national life and, sadly, even at times our ecclesial life,” Lori wrote.

“As our nation approaches the 250th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, we find ourselves invited into a moment of profound reflection and renewal,” Lori said. “Anniversaries are not merely occasions for nostalgia or celebration. Authentic remembrance always orients us toward renewal; it calls us to consider not only who we have been and who we are becoming — but, by God’s grace, who we are called to be.”

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Catholic teaching does not explicitly oppose Zionism, the movement supporting Jewish self‑determination in a homeland in Israel.

Anti‑Zionism claim by Catholic panelist prompts sharp exchange at Religious Liberty Commission​

Catholic teaching does not explicitly oppose Zionism, the movement supporting Jewish self‑determination in a homeland in Israel.


Former Miss California Carrie Prejean Boller, a member of President Donald Trump’s Religious Liberty Commission, said she doesn’t embrace Zionism because of her Catholic faith, despite Catholic teaching that does not oppose Israel as a nation or the Jewish people.

“I am a Catholic, and Catholics don’t embrace Zionism,” Boller said at the fifth hearing of the Trump-appointed Religious Liberty Commission focusing on the topic of antisemitism in Washington, D.C., on Feb. 9.

Catholic teaching does not explicitly oppose Zionism, the movement supporting Jewish self‑determination in a homeland in Israel. Israel is seen as God’s chosen people through whom God revealed himself and prepared the way for the coming of Jesus Christ. The Catholic Church universally condemns antisemitism. The Church recognizes Israel’s fundamental right to exist.

Boller issued several social media postsafter the hearing. She wrote:

“Forcing people to affirm Zionism on a ‘Religious Liberty’ Commission is the opposite of religious freedom. I will not resign, and I will not be bullied for following my Catholic conscience.”

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What do cessationists believe? According to Google’s AI, “Cessationists believe that miraculous sign gifts—specifically prophecy, tongues, and healing—ceased after the Apostolic Age (end of the 1st century) once the New Testament canon was completed. They argue these gifts were intended to validate the apostles' message, not to continue throughout church history. They still believe God performs miracles today but no longer uses individuals with specific ‘gifts’ of healing or miracles.” But is that biblical? No!


Jesus said, “greater works.” The cessationists say, “lesser works.”

And one of the Scripture passages the cessationists use to support their case is this passage in 1 Corinthians 13. So, let’s break that down to see if their theory “holds water.”

Yes, the passage of Scripture speaks of a time when the gifts of the Spirit will be done away with. But when is this to take place? When the perfect comes, the partial will be done away. And who is “the perfect” who is coming? Jesus Christ. When Jesus returns for his bride, and he takes us to be with him in glory, there will be no more need of the gifts of the Spirit. And then it goes on to describe that time:


When will that take place? When Jesus Christ returns for his faithful ones, and he takes us to be with him for eternity, which is when we will then see him “face to face.” So what this is contrasting here is our time here on this earth compared to what it will be like when we are with our Lord in glory for eternity. Here our understanding and our knowledge of things is incomplete. But when we are out of these earthly tents, and we are in our glorified bodies with Christ for eternity, then we will have complete understanding.

So, the gifts of the Spirit are not to cease while we live here on this earth. And in our present reality we need to be exercising those gifts of the Spirit even more. But they must be exercised with much spiritual maturity and discernment, and done biblically, and of the Holy Spirit, and not of human flesh. For there is much fakery and misuse of the gifts of the Spirit going on within the gatherings of the church (or what is falsely being referred to as the church). So we must test the spirits to see if truly they are of God.

But what happened on the day of Pentecost when the believers in Christ (male and female) were filled with the Holy Spirit, and they began to speak in other languages (the languages of the people present)? They were accused of being drunk. So, what was Peter’s response to that accusation?


And where are we now? Certainly we are in the last days, for they were, too. And who are these gifts bestowed upon? Male and female. No differentiation. And, poetically speaking, the way this is written does not mean that only young men will see visions and only old men will have dreams. And looking at the interlinear for Acts 2:17, it appears to me that all are included in those who will prophesy and see visions and dream dreams. But these prophecies, dreams, and visions must not contradict the teachings of the Scriptures. For God will not contradict himself and his word.

And to prophesy is not just in the area of future telling, but the word means to “speak forth” the messages of God, to proclaim the Word of the Lord. Another word for this is to “preach.” But this proclaiming of the Word of the Lord must be under the guidance and the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, who will lead us in what to say, and in what subjects to discuss, and to make these messages relevant to our world today, practical, and applicable to our daily living. And this must not rewrite nor contradict the Scriptures. And all should be tested against the Scriptures to be sure they are of God.

Body of Christ and Spiritual Gifts

[Acts 2:14-18,42-47; Romans 12:1-8; 1 Corinthians 12:1-31; 1 Corinthians 14:1-5; Galatians 6:1; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:1-16; Ephesians 5:15-21; Ephesians 6:10-20; Philippians 2:1-8; Colossians 3:12-16; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:13; Hebrews 10:23-25; James 5:19-20]

The Spirit Calling

An Original Work / November 12, 2019
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Hear the Spirit calling.
He’ll keep you from falling.
Tenderly He’s calling,
“Come and follow Him.”

Walk with Jesus daily.
Don’t give in to lazy.
Folks may call you crazy.
Fellowship with Him.

Follow where He leads you.
Eat what Jesus feeds you.
His love will renew you
If you follow Him.

Do what Jesus tells you.
Don’t let your faith fail you.
His love will avail you
If you walk with Him.

Jesus, Lord and Savior,
Reigneth now forever.
He gave us His favor
So we’d live with Him.

Turning now from our sin,
Holy Spirit live-in.
Holiness we walk in,
Purified by Him.

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An Original Work / February 10, 2026
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Nine years after the original film turned a chart-topping worship song into a box-office phenomenon, “I Can Only Imagine 2” returns with a more complicated question: What happens after redemption?

The first movie, which grossed over $83 million domestically, traced MercyMe frontman Bart Millard’s reconciliation with his abusive father and the birth of a song that would change his life. The sequel, hitting theaters Feb. 20, begins in the middle of adulthood, when forgiveness has already been offered, success has already arrived, yet old wounds still find a way to speak.

Andy Erwin, who directed the film with Brent McCorkle, told The Christian Post that “I Can Only Imagine 2” is about inheritance: what is carried on from one’s parents, passed to their children, and how faith collides with the messiness in between. It’s also a story about unfinished healing, he stressed.

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Jipsah said:

I generally tend to go with universal reconciliation

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I believe every name is written in the Lambs book of life. But Jesus says there are people who's name is blotted out. So in the very least they are not in a covenant with God.

What a covenant gives​

• Belonging — “You will be My people, and I will be your God.”
• Identity — a name, a place, a role.
• Protection — God takes responsibility for those in His covenant.
• Inheritance — life, blessing, future.
• Presence — God dwells with His covenant people.

To be in covenant is to be inside that relationship.

What it means not to have a covenant​

• No shared identity — you are not counted among God’s people.
• No claim on the promises — the blessings of the covenant are not yours.
• No protection of belonging — you stand outside the relationship God offers.
• No inheritance — you are not written among those who receive life.
• No mutual commitment — God offers Himself, but the person has not responded.

It does not mean God hates the person. It means the person is outside the relationship God desires.

Bob Crowley said:

Long overdue in my opinion.

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Right

God gives what is best for us in various situations. Our job is to trust Him.

The Barbarian said:

The physical universe is matter and energy. And they can be interchangeable. But that doesn't mean that matter and energy is all there is.

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Interesting that you brought that up. I was thinking about the connection we feel with the people who have died and gone to be with the lord. People say you should not talk to dead people but that is not what we are doing.

What continues after the physical world drops away​

• Memory — not just images, but the emotional shape they left in you
• Attachment — the patterns of love, trust, conflict, and meaning formed over years
• Identity — your sense of who you are in relation to them
• Expectation — the inner “place” they occupied in your life
• Conscious awareness — which is not a physical sense and doesn’t depend on matter or energy

Even animals, we hope to go to heaven to be with them someday because they were so much a part of our life here.

The Wrath of God will come from the sky: -
Romans 1:18-20 Divine Retribution will be seen by all, falling from heaven on all the impiety and wickedness of men and women who deny the truth. 1 Samuel 2:10
For all that can be known about God lies plain before their eyes. His invisible power and divine nature are knowable to any reasonable mind, so all are without excuse and their conduct is indefensible. Hebrews 11:6

Romans 1:21-32 These ungodly people know that there must be a Creator, but they refuse to acknowledge or give thanks to Him. So now, their thinking has become futile and their misguided minds are plunged into darkness. They claim to be wise, but they have just made fools of themselves. Psalms 14:1-3
Therefore God has given them over to all kinds of perversions and idolatries, while actually knowing God’s righteous decree that those who behave like this deserve to die, but they continue in their depravity and approve of the same conduct in others. Job 22:12-13

Romans 2:5-11 God’s kindness and patience is allowing us time to come to repentance, but if people refuse His gift of salvation, then on the Day of Retribution, all will be justly judged according to their deeds. His wrath awaits those who are governed by selfish ambition, who refuse obedience to the truth and who take evil for their guide. Isaiah 2:12, Isaiah 29:19-21, Isaiah 65:11-12

To both the Israelites and Gentiles who pursue glory, honour and immortality by living a righteous life, God will reward them with eternal life. Hosea 2:19 God has no favourites.

2 Thessalonians 1:6-10 It is just that God should pay back those godless peoples and give the righteous relief. This will happen when [the power of] the Lord Jesus is seen in the sky in a blazing fire, punishment will fall upon all who do not obey the gospel and they will suffer the penalty of eternal destruction, separated from His presence. Isaiah 59:18
On that great Day, Jesus will come and reveal His glory amongst all believers in Him. Only revealed to His believers. Jeremiah 31:2-3, Revelation 14:1

Hebrews 10:26-27 For those who deliberately persist in sin while knowing the truth, there remains only the terrifying expectation of God’s judgement, of a fierce fire that will consume His enemies. Habakkuk 3:12, Malachi 4:1

2 Peter 3:7 & 10 On that Day, the Lord will come as a thief, the sky will disappear with a great roar and the earth will be devastated by fire. Zephaniah 3:8, Isaiah 34:2-4, Isaiah 66:15-17, Revelation 6:14, Jeremiah 30:23-24
Reference: REB. Some verses abridged and paraphrased.

None of these Bible quotes fit with or refer to the Return of Jesus in His glory, seen by all mankind, at the commencement of His Millennium reign. Revelation 19:11

It is an event before that, where the Lord makes ‘fire fall from heaven’, His great Day of Retribution against His enemies’. It is the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, the next prophesied event that we can expect. It is a terrible punishment by fire, that will punish the ungodly, a massive explosion of the suns surface, which will firstly devastate the Middle East, but also dramatically affect the whole world. Psalms 83, Micah 4:1

misspertinent said:

I admire your zeal for Christianity despite all odds being stacked against you! Your perspective is refreshing.

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It is all God's doing. I praise Him! He has touched your life, too. You are blessed.

misspertinent said:

I will be praying for you, sister. Keep fighting the good fight!

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Thanks be to God and you!

Mark 16:15 closely resembles Matt 24:14. This is when the 2W (Two Witnesses) get their start as stated in Rev 11:3.