Multifavs said:

Thanks for the information. I'm thinking it's probably not anything I'm doing or not doing causing my sleep issues but anxiety itself (because nothing has changed in my life). I try not to worry about being unable to sleep or having symptoms at night, but it seems impossible. Hopefully it will improve as I get treatment and continue to change my thinking habits.

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Yes, full health is always a full package. From the first thing in the morning to the last thing before sleep. We must experiment, change various things and learn from mistakes.

Michie said:

Welcome Wendy! So happy to see you here. I look forward to seeing you around when you find the time. May God bless you all in your journey!

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Thank you Michie! So excited to be here. We were basically off-line and off the grid for a few weeks starting to get set up in Germany but hopping on when we can on our swing back, arranging to get our things shipped over. Probably going to be like this for awhile, it's a lovely village over there, quaint in some ways like right out of the pages of a fairy tale. In having said that, even in the very rural areas they do have access to Internet and tech when they need it, but I guess for cultural and community reasons they don't emphasize it and there's a real strong emphasis on old fashioned meeting up in person and going to get-togethers to be with other people. Which I admit we really like, and besides itt looks like just settling in will be a full-time job over the next few months or so.

Reluctant Theologian said:

Welcome to Europe - be blessed with witnessing - Mission usually is hard in secular and prosperous areas. It's great you undertake it. Have you got contacts with other missionaries or churches in your target area?

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Thanks to you Reluctant Theologian! We've actually been pleasantly surprised by the kind reception we've gotten and the eagerness of the people to connect and return to worship. Especially with the young people, it's in fact something our mission planner mentioned to us and he was right. To our surprise it's really the youth, in our own little hamlet and all over Germany who most excited about re-joining worship and participating in the church, and we get to basically serve as guides to help them. And yes happily we do have many local contacts there, in the target area and in general, in fact to our surprise there are already a lot of Americans in and around that and the neighboring villages and small towns!

Funny enough, we ran into a young man with his family who spoke perfect German and thought he was a local. Turned out, he was born and raised in Florida and his wife from Alabama, but been there over 10 years and blended in totally. You're right it can be challenging and that's one of the ways the missionaries there make it work. They make full commitment to the permanent move and become part of the community fabric as citizens, raise their kids to be not only fully German but also members who know their village or town there as their home. Our cousin in France did the same thing with his family there, speaks fluent French and his son grew up and identifies fully with the town they moved to. As result, the local people have embraced them as full members instead of outsiders, and so when they preach and hand out Bibles or hymnals, or coordinate events and get-togethers, people even from other towns and villages are enthusiastic to participate. Some of the missionaries are even building their own churches. Like one of our mission teachers taught us, that excitement and the commitment is contagious and it helps make the mission successful.

linux.poet said:

Welcome to CF!

Missions, Evangelism, and Witnessing seems a good place for contributions. Might as well stop by the Prayer Wall and tell us how to pray for your mission work so we can support you in prayer. May the Lord bless you for your obedience to the Great Commission.

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Thank you linux.poet! We did in fact find our way over to Missions and check in when we can to collect some of their pearls of wisdom. So great to know we can tap into the wealth of knowledge of the great minds and hearts of those who came before us and are participating right along the side with us in their own missions and passionate ministries.

RileyG said:

Welcome Wendy!

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Thank you so much RileyG! And thanks again to all of you for the well and encouraging wishes.

ozso said:

First the left goes on and on and on demanding that everyone must wear masks for protection. And now they're doing their outrage routine over masks being worn for protection.

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Masks saves lives! The irony!

Valletta said:

An illegal alien from the African country of Senegal, Bass Ndiaye, was arrested on July 17th for being in the US illegally. When he was in custody at an immigration building, he allegedly got access to a pair of scissors and tried to stab ICE officers and other illegal alien detainees. ICE officers were able to stop and disarm him in a timely manner.
Ndiaye was caught initially and released at the border in October 2023 by the Biden regime.

Illegal Alien Released into US by Biden Tries to Stab ICE Officers | The Gateway Pundit | by David Greyson

According to Homeland Security, there has been an 830 percent increase in attacks on ICE agents.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Caught and released.

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I am curious as to how long it will take before someone on this forum blames ICE/Trump or defends the attacker.

Kathleen30 said:

Well I would say to that. My post 119 did say to be continued. I did read what you wrote Perhaps you should have waited for my post 120 before shooting your mouth off . And as my religious perspective on creation that’s my right . Who are you determine and be judge and jury it be a long held biblical belief. As to my pink blocks subject breakers not brownie point makers . You say glib and I be so uniformed. Eclipse your such an intellectual you know it all. Me does say God bless for the future. I not discuss with you anymore

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What - and wait for more of your 'wisdom' when there was so much to respond to in the first post!?

I'm not even a scientist. I have a Social Sciences background. It's just I've read some of this stuff because it interests me.
Imagine what a real climatologist like Dr Katharine Hayhoe would have to say to someone like yourself just mouthing off about her entire discipline - with decades of studies behind her!?

The fact that you don't care about slandering such people really speaks to your 'side' of this 'debate'.
I was being deliberately provocative to try and help you see how offensive your lack of information on all this is to a Christian person like Katharine who you do not even know - but are happy to attribute all sorts of sinister motives to.

Try to think before you speak (or type.)

Upcoming conference (with online option) which might be of interest

To Listen and Respond: Dialogue as Feminist Method

Our Annual ACFT Conference (including the Janette Gray RSM Lecture 2025) will take place 7-8 November 2025. All are welcome.

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Paul had once lived under the Old Covenant God had with his people Israel, and he was dedicated to following all the Old Covenant liturgical, ceremonial, sacrificial, purification, circumcision, dietary, and Sabbath laws. But when he believed in Jesus Christ to be Lord and Savior of his life, all those things he once prided himself in, he now counted loss for the sake of Christ. He no longer put confidence in his own flesh and in the things that were external only, and which he prided himself in because of his religious zeal.

Now his life was surrendered to Jesus Christ to doing his will and purpose for his life. He was no longer just following a set of rules, which he took pride in for his own accomplishments, but now he had a heart realignment of the Spirit of God so that his life was now dedicated to following the Lord in submission, in death to sin, and in walks of obedience to the Lord and to his commands. For this is what it means to have faith in Jesus. Faith in Jesus Christ is not lawless. We still must obey our Lord’s commandments.

And now let me give you a modern day example of this. There are “religious” people in this world who follow their religions and their religious practices with precision and dedication, but their hearts are not surrendered to Jesus Christ (to God). They attend weekly gatherings of the church (or the false church) religiously, and they sing the songs, and pray the prayers, and they listen to the sermons, and they may do good deeds, or they may serve in some area of ministry, but self is still on the throne of their lives, not God.

Yet by faith in Jesus Christ we do not become lawless. By faith in Jesus Christ we are crucified with Christ in death to sin, and raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin but as slaves to God and to his righteousness. But we don’t serve our Lord only in some ritualistic religious fashion as a matter of self-pride and accomplishment. We serve and obey our Lord out of love for God and a heart’s desire to serve the Lord Jesus with our lives in doing his will, with or without accolades.

We want to serve Jesus Christ with our lives in doing his will even if it means being hated and berated, and thought to be the scum of the earth because we don’t preach the feel-good diluted gospel which appeals to human flesh and which does not require death to sin and obedience to our Lord and to his New Covenant commands. What other people think or say about us, though, although it may be hurtful, will not deter us from doing the will of God for our lives, for serving our Lord is not about getting the approval of humans.

Serving Jesus Christ with our lives is what faith is all about, and it is about living righteously in the power of God, and not in our own flesh. For to know Christ/God and the power of his resurrection and the fellowship of his sufferings requires that we die with Christ to sin and that we now walk with him in obedience to his commands in holy living, and no longer according to the desires of our sinful flesh. And it means we will be persecuted for our walks of faith in obedience to our Lord, for we take God’s word seriously.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10]

Your Servant Witness

An Original Work / March 13, 2012
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

Humbly I bow, Lord, before You,
Bringing my requests to You.
May I listen; hear You speaking.
May I follow You in truth.
Gently lead me in Your service.
Guide my steps and strengthen me.
Fill me with Your love and mercy.
May I live for Thee!

Let me be Your servant witness,
Telling others of Your grace.
May I always share the gospel
With those I meet face to face.
May I show the love of Jesus,
Caring for the needs of men;
Be Your servant witness always
For my Lord, Amen!

My desire to be like Jesus,
Living for Him ev’ry day.
May I obey all His teachings
Given me, so I’ll not stray.
Love You, Jesus, Lord, my master.
You are the King of my heart;
Follow You where’er You lead me;
Not from You depart!

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ozso said:

AH HA!

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Ah, I see now. There's why it's here

“The dogs” is in reference to false prophets and teachers who teach lies, and not the truth. In context they were in reference to the Judaizers who were trying to convince Gentile Christians that they had to be circumcised, as was required of God’s people under the Old Covenant. But when Jesus Christ died on that cross, he did away with all the Old Covenant liturgical, ceremonial, sacrificial, purification, circumcision, dietary, and Sabbath laws. What remained were God’s moral laws. We must still die to sin and obey God.

So, what is circumcision? It is a literal cutting away of human flesh. And what is the true circumcision? It is a spiritual cutting away of the sinful flesh via the believer in Jesus Christ dying with Christ to sin and being raised with Christ to walk in newness of life in him, no longer to live as slaves to sin, but now as slaves to God and to his righteousness. By faith in Jesus Christ we are crucified with Christ in death to sin so that we might now live for God in obedience to his commands in holy living, and for his purposes and glory.

“The dogs” may still be the modern day Judaizers who are trying to convince Christians that they need to be more like Jews, and that they need to follow some of the Old Covenant Jewish customs to enhance their faith. But they are all who teach lies in the name of God, in the name of Christ, and in the name of the gospel of our salvation, and who willfully lead God’s people, or those professing to be God’s people, to follow the lies and not the truth. For they teach a doctrine of salvation which is of human flesh, and not of God.

And some of them have been and still are people of renown who are regarded as servants of the Lord and teachers of truth by many people. What they taught, or what they are presently teaching sounds good, and it seems biblical, because they quote Scriptures, but they often take Scriptures out of context, and they twist them to say what they do not say if taught in the appropriate context. For many of them are teaching the teachings of man and not the teachings of Christ, because it tickles itching ears.

So, what does it look like to worship in the Spirit of God and to glory in Christ Jesus and to put no confidence in the flesh? It means that we are following the teachings of Christ and of his New Testament apostles in what they taught as the gospel of our salvation, and what they taught is required of us now by God for us to have salvation from sin and eternal life with God. And they all taught that we must deny self, die to sin, and follow Jesus in walks of obedience to his commands, for this is what it means to believe.

Basically, to believe in Christ Jesus as Lord of our lives it means surrender of our lives to God, submission to him as Lord (Owner-Master of our lives), and death to our old ways of living so that we can now walk in holiness and in righteousness in obedience to our Lord and to his commands. It means we no longer are the masters of our own lives, choosing our own course, but we are now following the course that God has for our lives in doing his will, going wherever he sends us, and saying whatever he gives us to say.

But if you are still listening to “The dogs,” who are telling you that God requires nothing of you other than a profession of faith in Jesus Christ, and that God is going to welcome you into his heaven when you die, based on lip service only, stop believing the lies and believe the truth. For by faith in Christ we must now die to sin and obey God with our lives. For if sin is still what we practice, and not obedience to God, we will not inherit eternal life with God when we leave this earth, but hell will be our eternal destiny.

[Matthew 7:13-14,21-23; Luke 9:23-26; John 10:27-30; Acts 26:18; Romans 2:5-10; Romans 6:1-23; Romans 8:1-14; 1 Corinthians 10:1-22; Galatians 5:16-24; Ephesians 4:17-32; Ephesians 5:3-6; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 12:1-2; 1 Peter 2:24; 1 John 1:1-10; 1 John 2:3-6; 1 John 3:4-10]

My Sheep

Based off John 10:1-30 NIV
An Original Work / June 24, 2012
Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

My sheep hear me. They know me.
They listen to my voice and obey.
I call them and lead them.
They know my voice, so they follow me.
They will never follow strangers.
They will run away from them.
The voice of a stranger they know not;
They do not follow him.

So, I tell you the truth that
I am the gate, so you enter in.
Whoever does enter
Will find forgiveness and will be saved.
Nonetheless whoever enters
Not by the gate; other way,
He is the thief and a robber.
Listen not, the sheep to him.

Oh, I am the Good Shepherd,
Who laid his own life down for the sheep.
I know them. They know me.
They will live with me eternally.
The thief only comes to steal and
Kill and to destroy the church.
I have come to give you life that
You may have it to the full…

They know my voice, so they follow me.

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CoreyD said:

Which of those scriptures refute that Christ's presence will be accompanied by a compound sign featuring wars, famines, food shortages, and earthquakes in one place after another, along with increased violence?

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The two most popular options are that Jesus was ruling as king in Heaven since his ascension - or it began in about 1914. I think it is compatible for Jesus to be ruling as king since his ascension and wars, famines, earthquakes, etc, happening now at the same time...
Apparently JWs call the time before Jesus ruled as king as the "Gentile Times". Do you agree that there was some kind of state where Jesus was not king before about 1914?
Here are counter-arguments about those things happening a lot since 1914: (for your own interest)

CoreyD said:

The prince sits on a throne at the king's right hand, until official appointment.

If you want evidence against what I have presented, you must first show that Matthew 24:3 is wrong, because the sign Jesus gave applies to his presence. Or...
If Matthew 24:3 is correct, you need to give evidence that all the scriptures Microsoft Copilot used, are accompanied by the sign, because Christ's presence as king, and the sign he gave, goes hand in hand.

Perhaps Microsoft Copilot can help with that.

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From Copilot:

Does Matthew 24:3 mean that Jesus has been ruling as king only recently due to the recently fulfilled prophecies?

Does Matthew 24:3 Imply a Recent Start to Jesus’ Kingship?
What Matthew 24:3 Actually Says
In Matthew 24:3 the disciples ask Jesus three questions:
- When will the temple’s destruction take place?
- What will be the sign of Jesus’ coming?
- What will signal the end of the age?
This verse frames the disciples’ curiosity about end-time events and Christ’s return—not the timing of his enthronement in heaven.

Kingship Began at the Ascension
New Testament passages make clear that Jesus was exalted and seated at God’s right hand immediately after his resurrection and ascension.
- Acts 2:33–36 describes the Father’s gift of the promised Spirit and Christ’s enthronement “at his right hand.”
- Ephesians 1:20–22 affirms that God “raised him from the dead” and “put all things under his feet,” appointing him “head over all things.”
These texts anchor Jesus’ kingship in the first century, not in our modern era.

The “Signs” Are Ongoing “Birth Pangs”
Jesus labels wars, famines, earthquakes, and similar upheavals as “birth pains” (Matthew 24:7–8).
- Birth pains begin early and grow in intensity and frequency.
- They signal the nearness of the end but do not by themselves inaugurate Jesus’ rule.
- These phenomena have recurred throughout history, serving as continual reminders, rather than pinpointing a new start date for Christ’s reign.

Why 1914 Doesn’t Arise from Matthew 24:3
Interpreting Matthew 24:3 as dating Jesus’ rule to a modern fulfilment of signs conflates two distinct ideas:
- The initiation of Christ’s heavenly reign (ascension).
- The progress of eschatological signs that herald his final return.
Matthew 24:3 focuses on the latter—how to recognize the season of his coming—without commenting on when his rule began.

Next Steps You Might Explore
- How first-century Jewish and Gentile believers understood Christ’s enthronement (e.g., early church fathers).
- The development of the “already/not yet” kingdom theme in the Synoptics and Paul’s letters.
- A deeper dive into Matthew 24’s parallels in Mark 13 and Luke 21 to see how each evangelist treats Jesus’ kingship and end-time warnings.

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Is it just my imagination but does the 2001 near death experience of Rabbi Alon Anava correspond strangely with Matthew chapter four and does his teachings since then remind you of Matthew chapter five, six and seven, [The Sermon on the Mount].

I would guess that Rabbi Alon Anava might be a possible fulfillment of Zechariah chapter three for many reasons but his second near death experience certainly adds interesting clues.

If you do not know who he is you would want to take a listen to his testimony at:

www.AlonAnava.com/

prudent_commenter said:

I don't think it's influence will decrease. If anything the demand will rise, but they won't print it anymore.

If you know the English language well, you'll have no problem with the KJV. These newer translations all stem from one problem of which they are all trying to fix: ease of understanding. And while they do that, they also need to be in line with the times (otherwise they will not be able to publish, and make money from).

There is no valid reason to which a doctrine needs to be revised every few years, which is what most of the translations are providing. The KJV for instance, has no revisions, but editions. These other translations have many revisions. Many changes in words, thousands of them, with no rationale behind. To me, this like a race between how modifies what and when.
And the language used in modern translations seem mild, political-speech perhaps? It's not readily apparent, but you do see it. One thing that I dislike the removal of fasting in verses Mark 9:29, Matthew 17:21, 1 Corinthians 7:5. Plus other inconsistencies.

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This is an extremely important point. The Syriac Orthodox Church and the Assyrian Church of the East still primarily use the Peshitta, a fourth century translation of the Bible into the Syriac dialect of Aramaic.

The main reason for the continual revisions of the NIV, NRSV and so on is obviously revenue generation, since Zondervan, ThomasNelson etc. want to sell more Bibles.

Likewise the reason why most KJVs are incomplete, lacking the Deuterocanonical books the Anglicans called the Apocrypha, but not in the pejorative sense the early church Fathers used the term, but rather more like Antilegomenna in a Lutheran context, is to save money on printing costs (and also these days to avoid alienating non-Anglican Protestants who on seeing a full KJV might incorrectly assume it was a Roman Catholic Bible, but historically, in the late 18th and 19th century when the elimination of the deuterocanonical books became the norm, most people knew the KJV had them, and some Calvinists still privately held to the Geneva Bible.

Michie said:

I walked the indoor track with mom. It’s not a pick up joint. You can go look at it for yourself. It’s not too bad for the price.

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OK thank you, I think I need to investigate that

The state department has notified us that they are sending our old passports and that the new passports are being printed, ready to be sent.

I feel like pumping out children to maintain some sort of number isn't a Biblical concept. That views people as just a number in a machine & says your worth is based on having children. A lot of this is fear-mongering too. People have the urge to reproduce & that's not gonna go away. There's 2 extremes: one is there's too many people & we're gonna destroy the planet, the other is we're not having enough children. Both are silly

Just an update - it went well with my friend at Church yesterday. Praise God and thank you for praying.

Guojing said:

Guess they won't take Paul's advice in Romans 14:5 either

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And I can say that they are stubborn. and I have to stop there !!

dan p

eclipsenow said:

Yeah I immediately thought it was a strange argument - and thought the guy must be a YEC going on about the flood. I mean - aren't there some spots today where coal is probably being made? Just in extreme slow motion - and probably unlikely to finish as us humans seem intent on paving over or ploughing up as much of the planet as we can?

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That's what was once taught, with peat being an example. Ireland burns peat though the country is moving away from it. The Okefenokee came to mind because of the peat. and much of it remains submerged.

Interesting thing seen on a lignite map that has nothing to do with the topic but is kind of "neato." Part of a deposit in the US seems to run right up to the ancient Gulf Stream Trough - Apalachicola Embayment. Would have assumed it would have been further away.

keras said:

You cannot just dismiss the six mentions of a thousand year period in Revelation 20. Whatever next would you like to erase?

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I do not dismiss them. I don't agree with how you interpret this "thousand-year" period. It is a symbolic number only. Jesus' kingdom is a spiritual kingdom. He received his kingdom when he ascended into heaven after his resurrection. He will continue to reign at his Father's right hand over all the world UNTIL all his enemies are put under his feet. Jesus will definitely not descend bodily to earth and reign in Jerusalem for a literal one thousand years before the end of time.

Mark 12:36
David himself, inspired by the holy Spirit, said: ‘The Lord said to my lord, “Sit at my right hand until I place your enemies under your feet.”’

Luke 22:69
But from this time on the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the power of God.”

Hebrews 10:12
But this one offered one sacrifice for sins, and took his seat forever at the right hand of God;

1 Peter 3:22
who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers subject to him.

1 Corinthians 15:22-27
For just as in Adam all die, so too in Christ shall all be brought to life, 23 but each one in proper order: Christ the firstfruits; then, at his coming, those who belong to Christ; 24 then comes the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has destroyed every sovereignty and every authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death, 27 for “he subjected everything under his feet.” But when it says that everything has been subjected, it is clear that it excludes the one who subjected everything to him.

When is death destroyed, never to be experienced by any human being?
Death is destroyed forevermore when Jesus returns to earth at the end of time.

keras said:

There IS other scriptural proofs; Genesis 1 and Hosea 6:2, +. Also Isaiah 2:1-4 and Zechariah 14:16-21, show how King Jesus will reign over the world after His Return. Why do you want to deny Jesus His reward? Psalms 2:8

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These have all been fulfilled. Jesus has received his reward. Jesus, our savior and king, is now spiritually reigning over the whole world, as he is seated at the right hand of his Father. He will continue to rule from there until it is time for his second coming and the judgment of the living and the dead in the Valley of Jehoshaphat.

The Judah of the first covenant does not exist anymore. There is no way that a billion or billions of human people will be traveling to Jerusalem for the first covenant's many feast's days. Jesus nailed these first covenant requirements to the cross. They are no longer in force. They are no longer relevant.

Colossians 2:9-17 For in him dwells the whole fullness of the deity bodily, 10 and you share in this fullness in him, who is the head of every principality and power. 11 In him you were also circumcised with a circumcision not administered by hand, by stripping off the carnal body, with the circumcision of Christ. 12 You were buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead. 13 And even when you were dead [in] transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, he brought you to life along with him, having forgiven us all our transgressions; 14 obliterating the bond against us, with its legal claims, which was opposed to us, he also removed it from our midst, nailing it to the cross; 15 despoiling the principalities and the powers, he made a public spectacle of them, leading them away in triumph by it.
Practices Contrary to Faith: 16 Let no one, then, pass judgment on you in matters of food and drink or with regard to a festival or new moon or sabbath. 17 These are shadows of things to come; the reality belongs to Christ.

Isaiah's prophetic warning was specifically for Judah and Jerusalem. Isaiah 2:1-4 was fulfilled with the Babylonian captivity. A second fulfillment was when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem in 70 AD. Christians are now all one in Christ. There are no distinctions between nationalities. Galatians 3:28

keras said:

The living and the dead, will be Judged AFTER the Millennium. Revelation 20:11-15

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Jesus returns bodily to earth only at the end of time, not before. The so-called millennium is actually the long time period between Jesus' resurrection and ascension into heaven and his second coming. All the saints in heaven are spiritually reigning with Jesus right now. They will reign with him until Jesus returns to earth at the end of time to judge the living and the dead.

John 5:28-29 Do not be amazed at this, because the hour is coming in which all who are in the tombs will hear his voice 29 and will come out, those who have done good deeds to the resurrection of life, but those who have done wicked deeds to the resurrection of condemnation.

1 Corinthians 15:52
in an instant, in the blink of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

1 Thessalonians 4:16
For the Lord himself, with a word of command, with the voice of an archangel and with the trumpet of God, will come down from heaven, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

Here are some to get started with:

Michie said:

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement arrested a pastor living in Maryland for over two decades for overstaying his visa. He was transferred to a federal detention facility in Louisiana, where he awaits an immigration hearing.

Daniel Fuentes Espinal, 54, originally from Honduras, was apprehended by ICE officers on Monday in Easton, a town in Maryland's rural Eastern Shore. The pastor of Iglesia del Nazareno Jesus Te Ama was detained while returning to a construction site after buying materials from a nearby Lowe's and picking up breakfast at McDonald's, The Baltimore Banner reports.

In a statement, an ICE spokesperson said that "Fuentes entered the United States on a 6-month visa and never left in 24 years."

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'Beloved pillar of our community': ICE arrests Maryland pastor who overstayed his visa 24 years ago

U S Immigration and Customs Enforcement arrested a pastor living in Maryland for over two decades for overstaying his visa He was transferred to a federal detention facility in Louisiana, where he

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It seems a little harsh for a civil offense.