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The most perfect love

Today is July 20, the Sixteenth Sunday in Ordinary Time.
We read at today’s Mass, “Martha, Martha, you are anxious and worried about many things. There is need of only one thing. Mary has chosen the better part and it will not be taken from her” (Lk 10:41-42).
For many of us, these words feel challenging. Like Martha, we often carry concerns and responsibilities that weigh on our hearts. When Jesus speaks of Mary choosing the better part, it may sound as though he is dismissing Martha’s efforts. But that is not what is happening. Jesus is gently reminding us that only one thing matters in the end: the love we give and receive in him.

Blessed Pier Giorgio Frassati lived this balance between Martha and Mary. His life was a steady rhythm of prayer and action. He never neglected daily Mass or time spent with the Lord, yet he also threw himself into service. He called this his “Apostolate of Charity.”

‘Based on charity’​


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Today is July 20, the Sixteenth Sunday in Ordinary Time.
We read at today’s Mass, “Martha, Martha, you are anxious and worried about many things. There is need of only one thing. Mary has chosen the better part and it will not be taken from her” (Lk 10:41-42).
For many of us, these words feel challenging. Like Martha, we often carry concerns and responsibilities that weigh on our hearts. When Jesus speaks of Mary choosing the better part, it may sound as though he is dismissing Martha’s efforts. But that is not what is happening. Jesus is gently reminding us that only one thing matters in the end: the love we give and receive in him.

Blessed Pier Giorgio Frassati lived this balance between Martha and Mary. His life was a steady rhythm of prayer and action. He never neglected daily Mass or time spent with the Lord, yet he also threw himself into service. He called this his “Apostolate of Charity.”

‘Based on charity’​


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I am truly sorry to respond to this post with a fundamental negative conclusion, but this error is so common in Catholic homilies, that to pass it by without comment would be to add to the error in understanding, and allow it further spread. The error is most clearly revealed in this : "Blessed Pier Giorgio Frassati lived this balance between Martha and Mary."

I sincerely hope that he did not live "a balance between Martha and Mary"! We are not entrusted with the highest of the virtues, to "balance it" with something else. Charity ought never, ever be set aside in order to do anything. Charity must be lived always.
"Charity is the form of all the virtues." (CCC 2346).
"Charity is the soul of the holiness to which all are called: it 'governs, shapes, and perfects all the means of sanctification.'” (CCC 826)
"Even though incorporated into the Church, one who does not however persevere in charity is not saved. He remains indeed in the bosom of the Church, but ‘in body’ not ‘in heart.’“ (CCC 837)
"Charity is the theological virtue by which we love God above all things for his own sake, and our neighbor as ourselves for the love of God." (CCC 1822)
"Charity is superior to all the virtues. It is the first of the theological virtues: “So faith, hope, charity abide, these three. But the greatest of these is charity.” [1 Cor 13:13] (CCC 1826)
Finally, beware of doing a "good work" in order to gain goods for ourselves (the praise of men, a reward from God, something to advance my ambition,....) we in such a case would be a mere "hired man", a mercenary working for pay. No, "If we turn away from evil out of fear of punishment, we are in the position of slaves. If we pursue the enticement of wages, . . . we resemble mercenaries. Finally if we obey for the sake of the good itself and out of love for him who commands . . . we are in the position of children." [St. Basil] (CCC 1828)

We see the problem again here: "He never neglected daily Mass or time spent with the Lord, yet he also threw himself into service." May we never "throw ourselves into service" or works of any kind, again! We are too much, still, in our [old] selves and not in the new man or woman transformed in Christ! We must seek and long to die to ourselves in fact and Truth not just sacramentally and symbolically in Baptism. We must seek and long to live - to LIVE - in Christ, we in Him and He in us, in all that we are and do. Jesus calls us:
Abide [Remain, Dwell] in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide [remain, dwell] in Me. [Jn 15:4]
May we never again leave prayer, to work. May we always remain in prayer, in our works! May we never again leave Christ and become of the world, in order to "do" works acceptable and pleasing to the world. That is the most "unbalanced" and contradictory of moves. Martha was fallen and of the world when she ordered Jesus to "tell her sister to help" her. She had judged and misjudged Jesus, accusing Him: "Lord, do you not care that my sister has left me to serve alone?" Martha's "good" works had brought her no peace - He told her ""Martha, Martha, you are anxious and troubled about many things..."

No, it is not a good thing thing to seek a "balance" between Mary, a woman here at peace in the Holy Truth of Jesus, and Martha, then a woman deep in the troubles of the world. There is no righteous balance to be found here. Martha became a saint! But her sister was way ahead of her in this scene.
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Does the "reign in the influence of Israel" movement need a Tucker Carlson to be credible?

LOL u do know that Jews were called Palestinians before the Arabs co-opted it. Truth is not propaganda...

Arabs living in what Jews call the Land of Israel, including Judea and Samaria, call themselves “Palestinians” after “Palestine,” the non-Jewish term for the region. Arabs did not do so until quite recently, but nonetheless, many Arabs in the region and their sympathizers have co-opted the words “Palestine” and “Palestinian” to give their national movement a sense of longevity, credibility and ownership. The word “Palestine” is not Arab or Middle Eastern in origin. It dates back over1,900 years and is derived from a people who were not native to the region: The Philistines, a people from the Aegean Sea who were closely related to the ancient Greeks. They lived on the coast of what is now the Gaza Strip and Israel, but had disappeared by the 6th century. The name associated with them, however, did not die out. The Romans, in a fit of spite, reapplied the term “Palestine” to the Land of Israel centuries later, after they defeated a Judean uprising in 135 AD. In effect, the Romans sought to erase the association between the Land of Israel and the Jewish people. Many Arabs in British Mandatory Palestine considered themselves part of Greater Syria rather than “Palestinians.” In 1937, a local Arab leader told the Palestine Royal Commission, “There is no such country as Palestine. Palestine is a term the Zionists invented! Our country for centuries was part of Syria.” Arab historian Philip Hitti echoed this sentiment shortly before Israel declared independence, saying, “There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not.” The watershed moment for the “Palestinian” national movement came after the 1967 Six-Day War, when Israel won control of Judea and Samaria from Jordan. The words of author Walid Shoebat of Bethlehem sum up the profound shift in local Arabs’ identity: “On June 4, 1967, I was a Jordanian, and overnight I became a Palestinian.” Palestinians trace their origins to prominent tribes in Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Egypt. Yasser Arafat was born in Egypt. Even the Kanaan family in Nablus (Shechem) traces its ancestry to Syria. While the Arabs of the region are free to call themselves whatever they want, they are not free to hijack the 3,000-year history of the Holy Land for themselves. In the end, the name “Palestine” represents the Jews’ original dispossession of their homeland 1,900 years ago...
Its nice to hear others who know the truths and facts surrounding the region.
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So far, at least nine (now ~40) (now ~160) judges, including Trump appointees, have called a halt to Trump executive actions

Appeals Court rules against Trump admin's birthright citizenship EO

The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, in a 2-1 decision, upheld a lower court ruling that President Donald Trump's executive order ending birthright citizenship is very likely unconstitutional on its face and that a nationwide injunction precluding enforcement is the only way to provide complete relief to the state plaintiffs, pending litigation.

A federal judge in a separate case [above, I assume] has already enjoined nationwide enforcement of the order against a certified class of individuals affected by the presidential action -- all newborns in the U.S. to noncitizens.
Yet another article about a decision... that doesn't bother to link to the decision, or even give the name of the case.

It's very frustrating so many articles do this. Why is this so hard? The good news is, these ones did:

It's Washington v. Trump and the decision can be seen at https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2025/07/23/25-807.pdf or https://storage.courtlistener.com/r...b7bc70c-6fcb-460e-9232-c6bc8ad16303.163.1.pdf.

I was curious about what the dissent was about, and looking into it, it looks like it was just a disagreement on the issue of standing; it indeed concludes with "Because we don’t have jurisdiction to review State Plaintiffs’ claims at this time, I do not address their merits or the scope of the district court’s injunction." Glancing over it, its argument on standing seems plausible, but at any rate the dissent was on procedural grounds that, while relevant to this case if the dissent is correct, wouldn't settle all of the other cases on this subject.
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Prayer Request

Oh I see. Going to Catholic schools doesn't mean you actually are Catholic, even if you're Catholic. :)
Currently, not counting colleges, non-Catholic attendance at Catholic schools is about 22%. Practicing Catholics, unless there is there is a good reason for exception, go to mass every Sunday.
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Former Slave Trader & Slave Boat Captain Turned Anglican Clergyman, Abolitionist & Composer John Newton (e.g. Amazing Grace) Turns 300 Today, 7/24/25!

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Verse 1

Amazing grace! How sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me!
I once was lost, but now am found;
Was blind, but now I see.

Verse 2

’Twas grace that taught my heart to fear,
And grace my fears relieved;
How precious did that grace appear
The hour I first believed!

Verse 3

Through many dangers, toils, and snares,
I have already come;
’Tis grace hath brought me safe thus far,
And grace will lead me home.

Verse 4

The Lord has promised good to me,
His Word my hope secures;
He will my shield and portion be,
As long as life endures.

Verse 5

When we’ve been there ten thousand years,
Bright, shining as the sun,
We’ve no less days to sing God’s praise
Than when we’d first begun.
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Jewish Israel is a Misnomer

ONLY for those who accept His Salvation.
It will be Gods disposal unit for those who refuse Him. Revelation 20:15
Everyone who loves knows God and is born of God. 1 John 4:7

Some just have their subjective salvation filter ratcheted up far too tightly, such as shown here:

Matthew 23:13
But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

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Trump announces sweeping Japan trade deal with $550B investment by Tokyo

I'm sure American Liberals do. But we're talking about Japan. Where the top selling car for the past 3 years is the 660cc, 3.3m long Honda N-Box.

The idea that the Japanese will start buying US-made SUVs or trucks in any significant volumes is laughable.

Japanese roads are not set-up to handle them. Japanese garages are not large enough to fit them.

Japanese tax laws are also punitive when it comes to larger, heavier and less fuel efficient cars.

There's three different vehicle taxes (annual automotive tax, automobile weight tax and environmental performance tax). Without going into all of the details, something like a full-sized SUV or truck (think Ford F150 or Explorer) is going to attract a tax burden that will be anywhere from 8 to 25 times that of something like a Toyota Yaris or a Kei car. It's going to be 2 to 6 times that of a 'full sized' Japanese car like a Toyota Crown or or Honda Accord.


Congratulations, you played yourselves.
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Texas AG Ken Paxton has fired or put on leave 4 of 7 whistleblowers accusing him of bribery

It's crazy to me that middle class citizens of Texas will vote foe this guy.

Say what you want but conservative leaders I. The US really seem to be acting like monarchs and seem to have about that level of culpability for their misdeeds.


Life would be easy as a conservative politicians I think.
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Malevolent vs. benevolent dispositions and conservative political ideology in the Trump era

Things have certainly gotten worse under Trump. But I have clear memories of pre-Trump times. I had debates, on these very forums with other members who argued that altruism is wrong, and argued emphatically that altruism is contrary to Christian morality; these members were also, at the time, arguing strongly in favor of Ayn Rand's views when Rand was in vogue among conservative circles not all that long ago. I can remember having discussions with members, on these very forums, who argued that the poor are parasites, based on rhetoric they heard on Fox News, which referred to the impoverished people of America as parasites because they depended on social welfare programs.

Things have gotten worse under Trump; in part because before Trump there was, at the very least, an attempt to put on a mask to at least pretend there is some kind of moral presentation; but with Trump the mask is gone. The moral bankruptcy of the American Right-wing which holds to no moral principle of any kind, which abhors all Christian ethics, and which thrives on nothing but naked hate and fear is simply more obvious than it used to be. But it's been this way for a long time, it's just that before the Trump era it was under the surface, and now it's crawled out of the cave and now lumbers on the surface. It is a malevolent and cancerous growth that has been festering and growing for decades. Being fed by the worst and darkest elements of human nature, it is sinful and grotesque, an abomination. But it's here now, naked, and flaunting itself. It hates everything and everyone, it regards all things decent and morally good repugnant to itself, and if I may put on my theologian's hat for a moment: It is a spiritual darkness that is straight from the deepest, darkest recesses of hell. This is spiritual darkness, this is what it looks like when Satan gets his claws in the churches, and scratches his way into the hearts of those with power and influence.

-CryptoLutheran
And it claims to be God fearing Christian.
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Broken People

After three wonderful years of being a member of St. Mary's Orthodox, I find that the more I learn about the Orthodox faith and the saints and martyrs of the Church, the less Orthodox I feel. In short, I can't seem to get my life in line with what appears to be a healthy relationship with God through Orthodoxy. This is not new to me, nor is it the fault of Orthodoxy. The problem, as I see and understand it, is my coming from a dysfunctional family and being a dysfunctional person myself as a result. As my former spiritual director once said (he was assigned to another parish quite far away) "Dysfunctionalism is the gift that just keeps on giving."

Here's the question du jour: is it possible that there are people who are just so messed up by life, by people, and by things that have happened to them that they will never get it right in this life?

I ask this because my sense is that I one of those people. I feel am stuck - that I am really going nowhere in my attempts to cooperate with the Holy Spirit in the work of theosis in my life. Yes, I am doing the things you might suggest to me: the fasts, regular attendance at Liturgy and the various services of the Church, keeping a prayer rule at home, etc. My priest knows of my struggles and the particular sin(s) that plague me since I make regular use of Confession.

The single biggest problem I have is in sensing a relationship with our Lord. My spiritual director used to remind me that God is not at all like my earthly father - cold, distant, unemotional and unexpressive of love, yet those are the very thoughts under which I labor. When I do something wrong, I find myself waiting to get whacked in some manner. It seems that this dysfunctional manner of relating to God and the world, while having lessened somewhat over the years, is going to be with me until I die. I just can't see to shake it off and enter into a place of fervent love for Christ. This is why I asked the question I asked.

Other than telling me to just keep on plugging away one day at a time, do you have any suggestions or thoughts?
So sorry you're going through this, but I somewhat understand from my own past with a controlling family member and an emotion, psychological, and spiritually abusive ex-husband (23 yrs with him). It's tough. I always have to monitor myself from not falling into despair, which is a sin in itself. I've gotten much better since being divorced and away from him (sons are healing day by day as well). What I try to remember and focus on is God just looks for our efforts. That is the most important thing to me. That I'm at least making an effort in my Orthodox Christian life. God knows your struggles and hardships better than anyone else. His mercy is immense. God bless.
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I just don't understand anything anymore

All of the persons/ people Jesus healed (and /or saved) gave up all sin, left everything, to 'follow Jesus' (to believe Him, no matter what the cost).
As Jesus Says Simply, if you want to follow Me and learn from Me, you must be born again, must give up everything (you ever learned or have), and listen to My (Jesus') Voice and run from other voices.
Born again is a change in the body not in the mind. Now Paul says in Romans 12: 1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Let’s jump right in a conversation that Jesus was having with a man name Nicodemus. John 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Notice verse 3, except a man is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. We have just learned something here. If you are not born again you can not see the kingdom of God. As we go further you will understand this. Remember there is a time for everything.

Nicodemus asked a very good question. Take a look at the next set of verses.

John 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

In verse 5, born of the water in this case is the Word of God. Notice the Lord mentions the kingdom of God again, but He adds a little more information. He says "Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. When he mentions spirit He means exactly that. Watch how the Lord gives something physical to describe exactly what He means.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Notice: He made a difference between flesh and spirit. Ask yourself that question, was you born flesh or spirit? Angels where born spirit being, man and beast are born flesh and blood. There will be no flesh in the Father Kingdom, only spirit beings, so everyone must be born again. Only Jesus in his thousand year reign will have both, which includes the first resurrection.

John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Notice: He compared the wind to a spirit. Can you see the wind? No! We have seen things being blown around by the wind, but we have never seen the wind. If you are born of the spirit you are like the wind. This is when you are truly born again, when you are born of the spirit.

Notice: what Jesus does in these next few verses.

Remember, this is after His resurrection.

John 20:26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Note two very important things within these verses. 1. Jesus appeared in the midst of them and the doors were shut. 2. Thomas called Him God. When Jesus came out of the grave he was born into the God family, Jesus was Born Again.
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A Though on St Olga of Kwethluk

St Olga of Kwethluk was just glorified the other day and I had some thoughts on how timely it is. Initially I was posting this as part of a reply in the Orthobro thread, but felt it best here.


We are living in some odd times. No, not in the "end of ze world" sense of it; we've been living in the End Times since Pentecost and Christ Himself said that, "Only the Father knows the hour" so frankly I think any further discussion on that is pointless. The obsession over trying to figure out when the world ends and obsessing over Revelation and over what holy people have said about it, I think, have become idols and distractions from our spiritual walk with Christ. The Protestant obsession over it is a huge part of why I never looked towards that tradition with any serious consideration prior to becoming Orthodox.

No, instead we are living in some oddly super politically charged times and not just with world events, but within our own parish communities. We have our own share of community issues related to things like the balance of preserving a culture vs evangelism to the broader society, New vs Old Calendars, American culture war issues within the Church, etc etc etc. A lot of this seemed to exist just below the surface of life until the Pandemic and the ecclesiastical problems in Ukraine that predated Russia's 2022 invasion.

We Orthodox in North America are functioning with an deficit of basic Christian love and compassion. Somewhere in the very old introduction sticky is my conversion story into Orthodoxy and what I'll point out is this: it wasn't the theology that attracted me. I grew up Roman Catholic so I had no need to find a Church that practiced Communion and believed in the Real Presence. I already had bishops, priests, and deacons. I already had a large respect for the Virgin Mary. And, I already had a strong sense of identity as an American Catholic in a sort of Diet Irish flavor. I was already part of a larger, greater organization that stretched beyond the four walls of the building I worshiped in on Sundays. And it was quite ethnically diverse with Americans, Black Catholics, Filipinos, Vietnamese, Hispanics, and, Native Americans.
See, growing up Catholic in a rural part of the Pacific Northwest made me a particular target in high school being attacked by militant atheists/secularists who had an ax to grind about the Catholic Church's sex scandals. It made me a target to every flavor of Evangelical and Reformed Protestantism who blame the Catholic Church for every evil that has happened in the world since Pentecost. It made me a target to the 20% Mormon population of my high school because I didn't flaunt my faith like they did. These attacks and insults, well, actually strengthened my faith and in some ways made me a far more devout Catholic. Eventually I took a critical view of Church History and came to the conclusion that today's Roman Catholic Church is not the same as the 1st Century Christian Church founded on Pentecost.

So then what could possibly lead to my departure from Rome at the age of sixteen to the greener pastures of the Eastern Orthodox Church? The family influence of my Orthodox stepmom and later Orthodox dad played a part, but no, family unity was not it especially with my atheist brother. It was not some desire to be part of a conservative redoubt to the ongoing culture war which was starting to heat up when the notion of legalizing so-called "gay marriage" became a thing. It was not even the changless-ness of the Orthodox Divine Liturgy as the Catholic Church in America continued its un-ending quest of needless liturgical reform in the name of Vatican II. Ultimately, it was the love of people and hospitality of the non-Orthodox which the Orthodox, especially the babushki, have for everyone.


And so here we are today with a weird subset of hatred and malice within American Orthodoxy that doesn't appear to be addressed. We have COVID converts who became Orthodox as part of the Fr Peter Heers cult believing that COVID was concoccted to attack the Orthodox Church and that receiving any COVID vaccine means compromising one's salvation because they think that it is the mark of the beast. We have the anti-abortion zealots who believe that Russia is an Orthodox Utopia, Putin is a living saint, and that all Orthodox should abandon their homelands because of America's abotion laws (ironically ignoring the fact that Russia has consistently had higher abortion numbers than the USA for decades). We have these misguided, hateful people who think that any marginal show of basic compassion is indicative of a larger plot to turn the Orthodox Church into a watered down version of herself similar to the Anglican Communion. And, lastly, we have people who believe that just because Pascha 2025 was one of those years when the two Easters are on the same day, and that Pope Francis toyed with the idea of aligning the Catholic calculation of Easter to the Orthodox calculation, that it can only mean that the Ecumenical Patriarch is going to reunite the entire Eastern Orthodox Church into an Eastern Catholic Church subservient to the Pope in Rome.

With all this, I have to ask: where are people getting these crazy ideas, and why aren't our bishops and priests saying anything about any of it? We need our Church leadership to address these problems and quit burying their heads in the sand and ignoring them because they will not simply go away and disappear. They will persist.


I also have to ask what the Black Eyed Peas asked in 2003, "Where is the Love?" Are we not teaching it anymore? Did the Assembly of Bishops put out a communique saying not to teach that as Christians we are to love one another? The generation of babushki who survived Communist persecution, the ones who by their love brought me and others into the Faith, are dying out; why are we dishonoring their memory by acting the opposite of how they did?

I can't speak for how the Orthodox Church operates in the Old World because I have never been there and have never been a part of it. My ancestors have been in North America since the 1680s, so whatever connections I have on the other side of the Atlantic are flimsy at best. But, I do worry about the state of Orthodoxy in America. I worry that as we fail to teach and live the Gospel, that we will become just another hate-filled, politically-driven non-profit organization just like the Religious Right of Jimmy Swaggert, Jerry Fallwell, and so many other charlatians and hypocrites.


So, what does all this have to do with St Olga of Kwethluk? When we look at her earthly life in comparison with some of our other saints, it really isn't all that remarkable or noteworthy. She did not convert an entire nation of people like St Patrick for the Irish or St Nina for the Georgians. She did not defend the faith against heresy in well-articulated writings like St Athanasius against the Arians or St John of Damascus against the Iconoclasts. She was not a martyr like 40 Martyrs of Sebaste, St Peter the Aleut, or St John Kochurov, or any of the other countless martyrs from Communist persecution in the last century or Islamic persecution in the last 1400 years. She was simply a mother, a grandmother, a godmother, a midwife, and, the wife of a priest in a backwater village accessible almost exclusively by river boat where just over 700 people live.
Instead, she simply lived in her village and loved everyone. Christ said that there are two great Commandments: to love the Lord Your God with all your heart, strength, soul, etc; and, to love your neighbor as yourself. St Olga followed these two Commandments and that is why hundreds of people traveled to a poor Yupik village in western Alaska on the banks of the Kuskokwim River. There were eight bishops present and sadly only one was non-OCA from ROCOR. Which means that there was zero episcopal representation from the Antiochians, Greeks, Carpatho-Russians, Bulgarians, Georgians, Macedonians, or, Serbs. No wonder we laity remain divided in our jurisdictions when even our hierarchs can not be bothered to show for the glorification of someone native to the American lands who is not part of some diaspora group. Someone who's family has likely been cradle Orthodox since St Jacob Netsvetov, a priest of mixed Russian-Aleut heritage, introduced the people of the Kuskokwim River to Christ almost two centuries ago. An Orthodox generation ago, this glorification would have no doubt have had at least Metropolitan Philip of the Antiochians, Metropolitan Nicholas of the Carpatho-Russians, and even at least one of the Greek bishops in attendance. Instead our bishops no longer care about pan-Orthodoxy and even actively fight against it; especially the Greeks and ROCOR. I am, to put it bluntly, disappointed in each and every one of our hierarchs, especially my own, for failing to keep the spirit of Pan-Orthodoxy alive.


We need St Olga of Kwethluk. We need this simple, humble, example of Christian love and compassion. Nineteen years ago when I was chrismated Orthodox (something that people today consider heretical because of Fr Peter Heers' misguided views on the sacraments) there was someone who was like St Olga in every Orthodox parish. She was usually an old grandmotherly lady who survived WWII as a child and later survived Communism in the Warsaw Pact nations, survived the Greek Military Junta, or survived the various wars and civil wars in the Middle East. Now there are fewer of them as that generation dies off. What will we have left when they're gone? What are we doing to be that person for somebody else or are we the reason somebody never comes to Church and hates Christ? Perhaps if we had more people like St Olga of Kwethluk we would have fewer Jay Dyer and the Orthobros.


As former poster OrthodoxyUSA used to end his posts: Forgive me.
I'm not a big fan of Fr. Peter Heers, but your quote here: "...to attack the Orthodox Church and that receiving any COVID vaccine means compromising one's salvation because they think that it is the mark of the beast." - I'm not sure is accurate or true. From what the Elders said in 2020/2021, none of them said that the vaccine was the mark of the beast. Rather, they were concerned over the authoritarian acts of countries' leaders, including ours, taking away people's right to be present in the church for services and making them stay holed up in their houses, which does nothing for one's health. Should've been outside in the sunshine and fresh air, getting vitamin D, and also taking the vitamin in supplmental forms as well, etc. Multiple spoons suggested by Archbishop El at that time was/is blasphemous. In any case, the holy elders were concerned about some of the gestapo tactics at that time, which was basically globally happening then. They considered this form of control and mandating the vaccine as a "dry run" to the mark. Not the actual mark.

Thankfully, I don't care to know anymore than what's necessary about the antichrist. I tend to stay away from that as I'm hoping I'm dead and buried by that time. Some Protestants think they'll be whisked away in the clouds - the dangers of false doctrines. I'm only concerned about the signs of the times in our time, which Metropolitan Neophytos has said twice in two different years that what's coming - natural disasters, etc. and WWIII (which we're already in) is in our generation. Our time, not our grandkids' era, so it's good to be vigilant, prepared, and moving closer to God during these difficult times ahead. This awareness has taken away my struggle with getting to church and feeling like I'm distant from God and my life as an Orthodox Christian. I'm reading more spiritual books and the Scriptures, trying to be at church more, and now going to Vespers more than I ever have in more than a decade. So for me, it's helpful.

It was great news when St. Olga was canonized a Saint. First Orthodox woman saint in America. Glory to God and His Saints!
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Fear, pain and hunger: The dire impact of shutting down USAID in Africa, leaving a vacuum for China and Russia

In case you didn’t know, our pets rely on us for their every need. How incredibly unkind it is to ridicule someone for caring for their pets in a proper manner.
How is it possible to misconstrue such as simple point as was being made? Really, how did you manage to do that?
...In the meantime, we have grown adults around the world who lack the capacity to produce a fruitful culture/ society.

You tell me who's in the wrong.
You are. Without any doubt whatsoever.
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The Start of WWIII

It is somewhat easier to refer to prophesies, Persians, Israel etc and point to brewing conditions that could lead to WW111 than it is to look at scenarios which are more explosive but- uncomfortably for some- inconveniently involve alliances between the orthodox church and the aggressor.

In reality, there is an elevated risk of a third world war right in our face now and for the last three years. And that is as a direct result of Russia's aggressive, expansionist invasion of Ukraine and slaughter of citizens and military there who are defense of their homeland and their families.

The risk is growing. Worry about that.
It doesn't seem you know the Orthodox prophecies. Russia will be used by God as the enemy of the antichrist (the spirit of him) by destroying Europe and the US who worship Satan. At least 4 holy elders say this, including saints.
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ICE continues to arrest worst of the worst--one illegal with 21 criminal convictions

The problem is not the Trump administration "leading" people or "pushing buttons." Although outspent by Kamala by a margin of 2 to 1, and with the majority of the media spinning a negative view of Trump on immigration and woke discriminatory policies, the American people voted in Trump because of his stated policies. The Democrats had lied to the American people, claiming the border was safe, secure, and closed, while in reality people were entering out country at record rates and human trafficking rose to a level not seen here since the Civil War. No Christian should have supported this.
In general I agree with all of your message. I certainly did not support Harris. Stated policy and actual policy outcomes I think differ almost always, even with immigration. Trump never talked about deporting so many green card holders, or those on student visas. He over-emphasized the number of illegals he would be sending back, I think those deportations will come up short but yes he is trying. It is just hoped that ICE will show some restraint in their treatment of illegals and allow the beefs with the judicial branch to play out in the Supreme Court as needed.
My message though that some MAGA supporters have gotten too prejudicial is still likely though I doubt that occurs with you or many in CF. Trump himself seems very divisive but most pretty much knew that already. Anyway, MAGA supporters have much to cheer about, I just am more cautious.
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Ultra Dispensationalism and Right Division

I think he is linking you with SDA teachings on many definitions of "law"
And I do agree with what Aristarkos wrote in. POST #3. !!

And just meant that he wrote how many gospels there are , that anyone can do the same with the word Law !!

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How is it that the Catholic Church is evil?

They weren't quoted in the New Testament, as most, if not all, the 39 Old Testament books are.

Alas, this is inaccurate: at a minimum, 1 Enoch, which is canonical in the Ethiopian Orthodox and Eritrean Orthodox Churches, was explicitly quoted by St. Jude in his epistle. Additionally there appear to be references to Wisdom, Baruch and Tobit in the text, but they would only be recognizable to those familiar with them.

By the way if you have not read Wisdom, you should. I don’t believe any Christian could read Wisdom ch. 2 or ch. 3 and not believe it does not have at least a secondary place in the Bible such as that given to it by the Anglicans (specifically, the book known as Wisdom or the Wisdom of Solomon, not to be confused with the Wisdom of Sirach, also known as Sirach or Ecclesiasticus, which I also like, and which the Anglicans and other Western Christians traditionally read on the Feast of St. Luke the Apostle, for its “Honor a physician” pericope, which aside from being specifically relevant to the feast of St. Luke is also common sense.
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'God created the nation of Israel': Pastor Robert Jeffress weighs in on Cruz-Carlson debate

Would that they would have the same passion for countries like Armenia or Christian communities like the Copts. But no, Israel first.

I would also note that megachurch pastors who say that it is a tenet of the Christian faith to directly support Israel are actually endangering the persecuted Oriental Orthodox, Copts, Syriac Orthodox, Armenian Apostolic Christians, and the persecuted Antiochian Orthodox and other Eastern Orthodox Christians in the region, such as the Greek and Arabic members of the Patriarchate of Jerusalem (which also has a surprising number of converts from Judaism), and the monks and Bedouin laity of the autonomous Church of Sinai at the Monastery of St. Catharine, and the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Alexandria, and the Phanariot Greeks in Constantinople. It should be noted by the way that in the Middle East, extremely good EO-OO relations exist (except at the Church of the Nativity where occasionally the Greeks and Armenians have had disagreements, but not recently, the last major dispute was in 2008) prevail, with ecumenical agreements between the Copts and Alexandrian Greeks and the Antiochians and Syriac Orthodox, the latter being particularly strong (to the extent that Old Calendarist schismatics like to whine about it on their numerous blogs and try to argue that the “world orthodox” are heretical.

Of course, if Israel suddenly collapsed, that would be bad for the Christians who live in Israel and Palestine and worse for religious minorities in Israel like the Druze, as the recent genocide against the Christians and moreso the Druze and Alawis in Syria indicates.

Additionally if Iran did obtain a nuclear weapon, there is a concern it would use it, even accepting Israeli nuclear retialiation, against Tel Aviv, which would endanger the Christian pilgrimage site of Mount Carmel.

Thus, we should neither support nor oppose Israel, but lobby Israel to adopt pro-Christian policies and not to adopt policies which could further endanger the Christian minority elsewhere in the region.
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