tonychanyt said:

Luke 2:


This was not universal peace or external peace. John 14:


This was inner peace.

On the other hand, Matthew 10:


That's about external peace or conflicts.

Was Jesus here to bring peace or not?

Jesus brought inner peace to those who believed in him. In his second coming, he will bring universal and external peace.

How does one make sense of these two conflicting passages?

John 14 was about inner peace, while Matthew 10 was about external peace. Jesus brought us inner peace, and when he returns, he will bring universal peace.

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Agree. Jesus did not come to bring world peace, but inner peace. The peace that passes or transcends all understanding.

Philippians 4:7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

Despite the turmoil that goes on in the world and at times in our lives, we are still at peace in our hearts and minds because of knowing that everything will work out fine in the end when Jesus returns.

I do not know about SC but here in neighboring GA there is no state law forbiding carrying in church and if the church does not want people to carry it is on the church to let people know that.

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My ship is going down tonight
And the waves are drowning out all the life
And I'm pretty sure there's no way I will make it out
Then just at the right time God comes crashing in
Just at the right time I'm saved by His hand
Just when I thought all hope was lost and this would be the end
There was God just at the right time
The sun is swallowed by the clouds
And the darkness closes in on all around
And I'm pretty sure that there's no way
But He'll make a way somehow
Then just at the right time God comes crashing in
Just at the right time I'm saved by His hand
Just when I thought all hope was lost and this would be the end
There was God just at the right time
My God will make a way even when it seems that there's no way
With God it's never too late
With God it's never too late
Then just at the right time God comes crashing in
Just at the right time I'm saved by His hand
Just when I thought all hope was lost and this would be the end
There was God just at the right time

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Inside my head there's a war tonight still no end in sight
And every breath is cold as ice but the fire will never die
Won't let myself be shaken by the way I see the times
There's an ending that's unseen that I choose to believe
That I won't break
Holding on to the words You've spoken
Through the fight and the flames I'm not alone
My hope in You is set in stone
So let the sky fall down, the earthquake shake the ground
Whatever comes my way I know that
I'm coming out the other side unbroken
I'm coming out unbroken
You will give me strength and wings to fly to rise above the night
So come what may let the waters rise and I'll walk on the tides
Won't let my faith be haunted by the bones that lay behind
'Cause there's an ending that's unseen that I choose to believe
That I won't break
Holding on to the words You've spoken
Through the fight and the flames I'm not alone
My hope in You is set in stone
So let the sky fall down, the earthquake shake the ground
Whatever comes my way I know that
I'm coming out the other side unbroken
I'm coming out the other side unbroken
I'm coming out unbroken
So let sky fall down, the earthquake shake the ground
I am coming out, I'm coming out unbroken
Holding on to the words You've spoken
Through the fight and the flames I'm not alone
My hope in you is set in stone
So let the sky fall down, the earthquake shake the ground
Whatever comes my way I know that
I'm coming out the other side unbroken
I'm coming out the other side unbroken

Large companies created "Human Resource" departments after the Civil Rights Act to ensure they were obeying the law and to keep the executives out of court. Human Resources departments are a matter of pain avoidance.

DEI was not necessitated by any new laws. It was nothing more than an attempt by companies to display the right "vibe," to get social approval. That was "gratification seeking," which for a company equates to "more customers" or "improved operations." It's only worth while as long as it actually results in making more sales or improving operations...neither of which DEI does. "Good vibes" is ultimately not profitable.

B Griffin said:

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“The Court is a fair, impartial, and apolitical institution,” Merchan wrote. “Adjourning decision on the motion and sentencing, if such is required, should dispel any suggestion that the Court will have issued any decision or imposed sentence either to give an advantage to, or to create a disadvantage for, any political party and/or any candidate for any office.”

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you think he's going to say, "Yeah I'm delaying but I'm 1000000% totes going to jail trump!!." if that is his decision? You do know what impartial means right? He's not going to give any hint or clue as to his ruling yet.

Every Creature Everywhere Praises Jesus

Rev 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I say, Blessing, and honor, and glory, and power, be unto him that sits upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

Rev 5:13 *And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I (John) saying, Blessing, and honor, glory, and power, be unto him (Jesus) that sits upon the (Heavenly) throne, and unto the Lamb (tittle of Jesus) *for ever and ever.

Rev 5:3 *And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them enters the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night *for ever and ever.

For Ever and Ever

Rev 22:5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God gives them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

Dan 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn a large group to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

Rev 4:9 And when those beasts give glory and honor and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who lives for ever and ever,

Rev 5:14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell and worshipped him that lives for ever and ever.

Rev 7:12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honor, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen

Rev 10:6 And swear by him that lives for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, the kingdoms of this world are now the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Amen Rev 3:14

Rev 5:14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell and worshiped him that lives for ever and ever.

Rev 5:14 And the four beasts (Seraphim) said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell (on their bellies) and worshipped him (Jesus) that lives (Rev 1:18) for ever and ever (Ex 15:18, Rev 5:14, Rev 7:12, Rev 10:6). Fell down Rev 5:8, 19:4 Rev 10:2

The Four Beasts: see Rev 4:6-9, 5:8, 11, 14, 6:1, 3, 5, 7, 7:11,

The Twenty-Four Elders: see Rev 4:4,10,11, 5:6, 8, 14, Rev 7:11, 13,

THE MYSTERY OF GOD FINISHED: (Gen 1:1 Isa 45:7 Isa 65:17 Eph 3:9 Col 1:15-20 Heb 1:1-3 Rev 10:6,7)

Amen

Rev 1:6 And has made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him [be] glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

Rev 1:7 Behold, he comes with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Rev 1:18 I am he that lives, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things says the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

Rev 7:12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honor, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

Rev 22:21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

The Movement of the Book

Rev 5:7 And he arrived taking the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

Rev 5:7 And he (strong angel Rev 5:2) arrived taking the book (Rev 5:1 Rev 10:2) out of the right hand of him (the Lamb Rev 5:6a) that sat upon the (heavenly) throne.

The Throne: see Rev 1:4, Rev 4:2, Rev 5:1, 6:6 Rev 14:14 Rev 20:11

Mighty Angel: see has book Rev 5:2, 10:1-3, 5-7

Right Hand: see Rev 1:16a, 1:17b, Rev 1:20, 5:1a, 7

The Little Book Movement

Jesus with the Book: Rev 5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within (open) and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. Rev 5:1-7 Little Book

The Strong Angel takes the Book: Rev 5:7 And he arrived taking the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. Rev 5:8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odors, which are the prayers of saints.

The Angel Arrives: Rev 10:1 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire: Rev 10:2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth, Rev 10:3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roar: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices. Rev 10:11 John reads the Little

Mystery of God Finishes: Rev 10:5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea (man of sin) and upon the earth (false prophet) lifted up his hand to heaven, Rev 10:6 And swore by him (Jesus) that lives for ever and ever, who created heaven (Rev 1:1-5,14), and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh (Trumpet) angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he has declared to his servants the prophets.

• John told me to take the Book: Rev 10:8 And the voice which I heard from heaven (Rev 4:1) talked with me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standing upon the sea and upon the earth. Rev 10:9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up (read); and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
• John takes the Book: Rev 10:10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter. Rev 10:11 And he said unto me, You must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

Prayers of Scourge Saints

Rev 5:8 And when he (Rev 5:2,7) had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell before the Lamb (Rev 5:6,7), having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odors, which are the prayers of saints.

Rev 5:8a and when he (strong angel) had taken the book, the four beasts (Seraphim) and four and twenty elders fell down (on their bellies) before the Lamb (Jesus), having every one of them harps (stringed instrument for sound in worship),

The Throne: see Throne: see Rev 4:2,3, 5:1, 6:6, Rev 14:14, 20:11

The Four Beasts: see Rev 4:6-9, 5:8, 11, 14, 6:1, 3, 5, 7, 7:11,

The Twenty-Four Elders: see Rev 4:4,10,11, 5:6, 8, 14, Rev 7:11, 13,

The Scourge Saints

Rev 5:8b and golden vials (broad flat container) full of odors (fragrant aroma), which are the prayers of (Scourge) saints (Rev 15:3 King of Saints).

General Assembly of the Seven Divisions of Denominationalism on Earth Rev 2:7 Rev 2:11 Rev 2:17 Rev 2:25-29 Rev 3:5,6 Rev 3:12,13 Rev 3:21,22 (Overcomers)

Scourge and Tribulation Saints (Scourge Saints Rev 5:8-11 Rev 6:9-11) {Rev 7:13-17 Rev 15:2-4 {Beheaded last 30 days of 6th Trumpet Rev 20:4})

• Rev 8:3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. Rev 8:4,5
• Rev 5:8-10 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odors, which are the prayers of saints. Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, you have worthiness allowing you to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for you were slain, and have redeemed us to God by your blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; Rev 5:10 And have made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the (1000-year Kingdom) earth.

Rev 6:9-11 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: Rev 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, how long, O Lord, holy and true, dose you not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? Rev 6:11 And all of them receive white robes; and that they should rest yet for a little season, until the fulfilling murders of their fellow servants, who are their brethren takes place.

Scourge Saints Redeemed by Blood

Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, you are worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for you were slain, and have redeemed us to God by your blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

Rev 5:9a and they (Scourge Saints) sung a new song, saying, you are worthy (Rev 5:5,6) to take the book (Rev 5:1), and to open the seals (Rev 6:1,3,5,7,9,12, 8:1) thereof (in the book):

Rev 5:5 one of the elders says unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book, and to lose the seven seals thereof. Rev 5:6 I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

New Songs

Psa 40:3 And he has put a new song in my mouth, even praise unto our God: many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in the LORD.

Psa 144:9 I will sing a new song unto you, O God: upon a psaltery and an instrument of ten strings will I sing praises unto you.

Rev 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

Jesus Redeems Scourge Saints

Rev 5:9b for you (Jesus) were slain (on the cross), and has redeemed us (Scourge Saints Rev 1:3 2:7) (Rev 2:3-5, Rev 2:9, 19 {Rev 19:10, Rev 5:8-10} [Psa 40:7, 86:8]) has an ear Rev 2:7,11,17,24 Rev 3:6,13,22 ) to God (tittle of Jesus) by your (Jesus) blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people nation; Tribulation Saints slain Rev 6:9

The Gentile Nations

Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them (Jews) that dwell on the earth, and to every (gentile) nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, [and be] their God.

Rev 21:3 I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

Political and Religious Leadership of Scourge Saints

Rev 5:10 And has made us unto our (Scourge Saints) God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Rev 5:10 And has made us (Scourge Saints (Rev 2:3-5, Rev 2:9, 19 Rev 3:5{Rev 19:10, Rev 5:8-10} [Psa 40:7, 86:8]) unto our God (Jesus) kings (political leadership) and priests (religious leadership): and we (Scourge Saints) shall reign on the (1000 Year Kingdom Rev 3:9 20:7) earth.

General Assembly of the Seven Divisions of Denominationalism on Earth Rev 2:7 Rev 2:11 Rev 2:17 Rev 2:25-29 Rev 3:5,6 Rev 3:12,13 Rev 3:21,22 (Overcomers become saints)

Scourge and Tribulation Saints (Scourge Saints Rev 5:8-11 Rev 6:9-11) {Rev 7:13-17 Rev 15:2-4 {Beheaded last 30 days of 6th Trumpet Rev 20:4})

Scourge Saints are Kings and Priests

Rev 1:6 And has made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

Rev 5:10 And has made us (Scourge Saints) unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Rev 19:16 And he (Jesus) has on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Rev 21:24 And the saved nations shall walk in the light of it (New Jerusalem): and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honor into it.

The 1000-year Kingdom Earth

Rev 3:9 Behold, I (Jesus) will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship (1000-year Kingdom) your (Scourge Saints) feet, and to know that I have loved you.

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that has part in the first resurrection: on such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ and shall reign with him a thousand years. Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years expire, Satan shall receive freedom from his prison,

One Quade Trillion Angels

Rev 5:11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of a large group of angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousand.

Rev 5:11 And I (John) beheld (saw), and I (John) heard the voice of many angels round about the (Heavenly) throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them (angels) was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands (a Quade Trillion); the angels (Rev 3:5, 7:11)

Angels

Heb 1:7 And of the angels he says, who makes his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

Rev 3:5 He that overcomes, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, you are worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for you were killed, and have redeemed us to God by your blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; Rev 5:10 And has made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. Rev 5:11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; Rev 5:12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honor, and glory, and blessing.

Rev 7:11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,

Angels Praise Jesus

Rev 5:12 Saying with a loud voice (Authoritative Participation), Worthy is the (murdered) Lamb to receive power, riches, wisdom, strength, honor, glory, and blessing.

Rev 5:12 (Angels) Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb (Jesus) that was slain (on the cross Rev 5:5,6) to receive (1) power, and (2) riches, and (3) wisdom, and (4) strength, and (5) honor, and (6) glory, and (7) blessing.

Rev 4:11 You are worthy, O Lord, to receive glory, honor, and power: for you have created all things, and for your pleasure in the past you created and in the present you create.

Rev 5:5 And one of the elders says unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to lose the seven seals thereof.

Jesus Created all Things.

The Mystery of God: (Gen 1:1 Isa 45:7 Isa 65:17 Eph 3:9 Col 1:15-20 Heb 1:1-3 Rev 10:6,7)

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Isa 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former creation shall not come into mind, nor remembrance.

Eph 3:9 And to make all men see what the fellowship of the mystery is, which from the beginning of the world has been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

Col 1:15 Who (Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwells; Col 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Rev 10:6 And swear by him that lives for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Job 41:5 Will you play with him as with a bird? or will you bind him for your maidens?

Job 41:5 Will you (Job Matt 19:26 Acts 19:15) play with him (leviathan Isa 14:12 Ezek 28:14) as with a bird? or will you bind him for your (Job) maidens?

Can Saints Play or Bind Lucifer

• Isa 8:14 And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem. Isa 8:15 And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken. Isa 8:16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples. Isa 8:17 And I will wait upon the LORD, that hides his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him.

1. Pro 1:11 If they say, Come with us, let us lay wait for blood, let us lurk privily for the innocent without cause: Pro 1:12 Let us swallow them up alive as the grave; and whole, as those that go down into the pit: Pro 1:13 We shall find all precious substance, we shall fill our houses with spoil: Pro 1:14 Cast in thy lot among us; let us all have one purse:
2. Jer 5:27 As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of deceit: therefore they are become great, and waxen rich.
3. Hab 2:9 Woe to him that covets an evil covetousness to his house, that he may set his nest on high, that he may be delivered from the power of evil!
4. Hab 2:12 Woe to him that builds a town with blood, and stablishes a city by iniquity!
5. Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
6. 2Ti 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
7. Mat 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
8. Mat 16:19 And I will give unto you (apostles) the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever you shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever you shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
9. Mat 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Job 41:6 Shall the companions make a banquet of him? shall they part him among the merchants?


Job 41:6 Shall the companions make a banquet of him (leviathan Isa 14:12 Ezek 28:14)? shall they part him among the merchants (moneychangers Mark 11:15 Matt 21:12, husbandmen Mark 12:1,2,7, hirelings John 10:12,13)?

Companions Banquet

1. Jdg 14:11 And it came to pass, when they saw him, that they brought thirty companions to be with him.
2. 1Pe 4:3 For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, reveling, banqueting, and abominable idolatries: (2Tim 3:1-9 Rom 1:21-32)
3. Dan 5:10 Now the queen, by reason of the words of the king and his lords, came into the banquet house: and the queen spoke and said, O king, live forever: let not thy thoughts trouble you, nor let your countenance be changed: Dan 5:11 There is a man in your kingdom, in whom is the spirit of the holy gods; and in the days of thy father light and understanding and wisdom, like the wisdom of the gods, was found in him; whom the king Nebuchadnezzar your father, the king, I say, your father, made master of (1) the magicians, (2) astrologers, (3) Chaldeans, and (4) soothsayers; Dan 5:12 Forasmuch as an (1) excellent spirit, (2) and knowledge, (3) and understanding, (4) interpreting of dreams, (5) and showing of hard sentences, (6) and dissolving of doubts, were found in the same Daniel, whom the king named Belteshazzar: now let Daniel be called, and he will show the interpretation.
4. Dan 5:25 And this is the writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN (plural-to split up without violence). Dan 5:26 This is the interpretation of the thing: MENE; God has numbered your kingdom, and finished it. Dan 5:27 TEKEL; You are weighed in the balances, and are found wanting. Dan 5:28 PERES (singular-to split up without violence); Your kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians. Isa 28:15-18
5. 1Pe 4:3 For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we (Christians) walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, reveling, banqueting, and abominable idolatries: (2Tim 3:1-9 Rom 1:21-32)

Moneychangers Mark 11:15 Matt 21:12,

1. Mar 11:15 And they come to Jerusalem: and Jesus went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves;
2. Mat 21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,

Husbandmen Mark 12:1,2,7,

1. Mar 12:1 And he began to speak unto them by parables. A certain man planted a vineyard, and set an hedge about it, and dug a place for the wine fat, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country. Mar 12:2 And at the season he sent to the husbandmen a servant, that he might receive from the husbandmen of the fruit of the vineyard.
2. Mar 12:7 But those husbandmen said among themselves, this is the heir; come, let us kill him, and the inheritance shall be ours.

Hirelings John 10:12,13)

1. Joh 10:12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, sees the wolf coming, and leaves the sheep, and flees: and the wolf catches them, and scatters the sheep. Joh 10:13 The hireling (Rev 6:2 Rev 12:6,13-18) flees, because he is an hireling, and cares not for the sheep.

Job 41:7 Can you fill his skin with barbed irons? or his head with fish spears?


Job 41:7 Can you (Job Matt 19:26 Acts 19:15) fill his (leviathan Isa 14:12 Ezek 28:14) skin with barbed irons (parallels false doctrine)? or his head (Psa 74:13,14) with fish spears (parallels false doctrine)?

• Psa 74:13 You did divide the sea by your strength: you brake the heads of the dragons in the waters. Psa 74:14 You brake the heads of leviathan in pieces, and gave him to be meat to the people inhabiting the wilderness. (Rev 13:1,2 Rev 12:3)

There is Nothing Covered

1. Isa 29:15 Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who sees us? and who knows us?
2. Psa 10:11 He has said in his heart, God has forgotten: he hides his face; he will never see it.
3. Psa 64:4 That they may shoot in secret at the perfect: suddenly do they shoot at him, and fear not. Psa 64:5 They encourage themselves in an evil matter: they commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them?
4. Mar 3:23 And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan (Lucifer Isa 14:12) cast out Satan? Mar 3:24 And if a kingdom (Rev 2:9,13) be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand (falling away Isa 28:13 2Thess 2:3 Heb 6:4-6). Mar 3:25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house (Acts 9:11) cannot stand. Mar 3:26 And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end. Rev 2:3 Col 2:22 doctrines of men Eph 4:14 sleight men

Job 41:8 Lay your (Job Matt 19:26 Acts 19:15) hand upon him (leviathan Isa 14:12 Ezek 28:14), remember the battle, do no more.

Job 41:9 Behold, the hope of him (leviathan Isa 14:12 Ezek 28:14) is in vain: shall not one (individual) be cast down even at the sight of him (leviathan Isa 14:12 Ezek 28:14)?

Job 41:10 None is so fierce that dare stir him up: who then is able to stand before me?

Job 41:11 Who hath prevented me, that I should repay him? whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine.

Job 41:12 I will not conceal his parts, nor his power, nor his comely proportion.

Job 41:13 Who can discover the face of his garment? or who can come to him with his double bridle?

Job 41:14 Who can open the doors of his face? his teeth are terrible round about.

Job 41:15 His scales(Rev 6:5-6) are his pride(Rev 6:1-2), shut up together as with a close *seal. Job 41:16 One is so near to another, that no air can come between them. Job 41:17 They(1st seal, 2nd seal) are joined one to another, they stick together, that they cannot be sundered.


Dan 5:25 (parallels Rev 6:1-8) And this is the writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN. Dan 5:26 This is the interpretation of the thing: MENE; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it. Dan 5:27 TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting. Dan 5:28 PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians.


Job 41:18 By his neesings a light doth shine, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning.

Job 41:19 Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out.

Job 41:20 Out of his nostrils goes smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron.

Psa 73:17 Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end (Rev 2&3). Psa 73:18 Surely you did set them in slippery places: you castedst (cast) them down into destruction. Psa 73:19 How are they brought into desolation, as in a moment! they are utterly consumed with terrors.



Job 41:21 His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth.

Job 41:22 In his neck remaineth strength, and sorrow is turned into joy before him.

Job 41:23 The flakes of his flesh are joined together: they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved.

Job 41:24 His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone.

Job 41:25 When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breakings they purify themselves.

Job 41:26 The sword of him that layeth at him cannot hold: the spear, the dart, nor the habergeon.

Job 41:27 He esteemeth iron as straw, and brass as rotten wood.

Job 41:28 The arrow cannot make him flee: slingstones are turned with him into stubble.

Job 41:29 Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.

Job 41:30 Sharp stones are under him: he spreadeth sharp pointed things upon the mire.

Job 41:31 He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: he maketh the sea like a pot of ointment.

Job 41:32 He maketh a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be hoary.

Job 41:33 Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear.

Job 41:34 He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.

No One Worthy to Open the Book

Rev 5:4 And I wept much, because no man is worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.

Rev 5:4 And I (John) wept much (upset), because no man is worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.

See: Rev 5:1-3

Jesus prevails

Rev 4:9 And when those beasts give glory and honor and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who live for ever and ever, Rev 4:10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that lives for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, Rev 4:11 You are worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: for you have created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Rev 5:5 And one of the elders says unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book, and to lose the seven seals thereof. Rev 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,

Jesus Prevails to Open the Book (John weeps Rev 5:4)

Rev 5:5 And one of the elders says unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah (1John 5:7), the Root of David (Isa 22:22 Matt 1:18 John 1:14), has prevailed (John 19:30 Eph 4:8 Matt 27:50-53) to open the book, and to lose (Rev 5:2) the seven seals thereof.

Mat 16:19 KJV "And I (Jesus) will give unto you (12 Apostles) the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever you shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever you shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

Mat 18:18 Verily I (Jesus) say unto you, whatsoever you (12 Apostles) shall bind (restrain {see Key of Judas paper}) on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever you shall loose (let go) on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

This disallows denominationalism (key of Judas (Isa 28:15-18 Rev 6:1-11) upon earth and in the Heavenly Kingdom.

1st of the Twenty-Four Elders

Rev 5:4a and one (1st position) of the elders (Rev 7:13) said unto me (John), Weep not:

John Weeps: Rev 5:4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.

1st Elder Position: Rev 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, what are these arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

The Lion of Juda and Root of David

Rev 5:5b behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda (tittle of Jesus Hos 5:14), the Root of David (tittle of Jesus Isa 22:22),

The Lion of the Tribe of Juda Rev 1:13, Rev 4:2,3

• Lam 3:10 He was to me as a bear lying in wait, as a lion in secret places.
• Hos 5:14 For I will be unto Ephraim as a lion, and as a young lion to the house of Judah: I, even I, will tear and go away; I will take away, and none shall rescue him.
• Rev 7:5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.

The Root of David

• Isa 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
• Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
• Mat 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
• Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: Luk 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob forever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Jesus Prevails Through the Cross

Rev 5:5c (Jesus) has prevailed (overcome-the cross) to open the book (Rev 5:1).

Phl 3:18 (For a large group of individuals walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: (the cross is a weapon against evil)

• Joh 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
• Mat 27:50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. Mat 27:51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; Mat 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, Mat 27:53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

Eph 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.

Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross.

Heb 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

The Cross

Luk 23:26 And as they led him away, they laid hold upon one Simon, a Cyrenian, coming out of the country, and on him they laid the cross, that he might bear it after Jesus.

Jhn 19:19 And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS.

1Co 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect.

1Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. Phl 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Col 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Jesus Breaks the Seven Seals

Rev 5:5d and (Jesus) to lose the seven seals (6 seals Rev 6:1-17 {7th seal 8:1}) thereof.

1st Seal opened Rev 6:1,2 1st Beast white (false peace) horse (man of sin) is rider on horse, rider has a bow (homo rainbow-flag), Lucifer gives rider a crown (restricted authority), rider goes forth conquering (peace treaties) and to conquer (warfare)

2nd Seal opened Rev 6:3,4 2nd Beast red horse (bloody civil, military, and political battle) power (restricted) is given, by Lucifer, to the rider (man of sin of horse), rider takes peace from earth, people kill one another, Lucifer gives a great sword (restricted military warfare) to rider (man of sin)

3rd Seal opened Rev 6:5,6 3rd Beast black horse (parallels suffering) the rider is the (man of sin) and he has a pair of balances in his hand (restricted demonic control). The Authoritative Jesus in the middle of the Four Seraphim says (participating authority) controlling wheat (farm commodities) for a penny (exchange rate) and three measures of barley (farm commodities) for a penny and Jesus instructs the (man of sin) not to injure the oil (orchard products) or the wine (orchard products).

4th Seal opened Rev 6:7,8 4th Beast pale horse (the man of sin

is the rider with restricted authority) and he is named Death and Hell follows Death. (Lucifer gives the man of sin restricted power) over a 1/4th of the earth.

To kill with the sword (warfare), hunger, (starvation), with death (concentration camps), and with the beasts (evil rulers) of the earth.

5th Seal opened Rev 6:9-11 Jesus Controls Scourge Saints Under the Heavenly Altar the souls (Scourge Saints) murdered for keeping the Word of God and for the testimony (of Jesus the Christ) that they hold. And they (Scourge Saints) cried with a loud voice (authoritative participation) calling Lord Jesus holy and true do you not judge and avenge our blood (murders) on those (idolaters) dwelling on earth. Their white robes (paralleling purity) are given to them (Scourge Saints). And they are told to rest for a little season (until the end of the of the 6th Trumpet 3 ½ years) until their fellow servants and brothers (Tribulation Saints) should be killed (are murdered) as they were, should be fulfilled (completing the Word of Jesus)

6th Seal opened Rev 6:12-17 Jesus Controls A great earthquake; the sun turns pitch black, the moon becomes blood, and the stars streak in all directions to earth. Heaven quickly departs, every mountain and island move around, the kings, politicians, rich, military leaders, warriors, slaves, and free men hide in caves and around the rocks of the mountains. Expecting the caves and rocks to hide them from the Father sitting on the throne-and from the wrath of the Lamb. And they confess the Great Day of the Wrath of the Lamb has arrived and they can’t resist His Authoritative Power.

7th Seal opened Rev 8:1-5 Jesus Controls Silence in heaven for a half an hour, with the Seven Trumpet Angels standing before God, and they receive the Seven Trumpets. An Angel arrives at the Heavenly Altar with a Golden Censer and an Angel gives him a great deal of Incense for him to offer the Incense with the Prayers of the Scourge Saints upon the Golden Altar, that is standing before the Great White Throne. The Incense, Prayers of the Scourge Saints, and fire mix in the Cener held by the Angel in his hand, making ascending smoke before God. Following this the Angel takes the Censer and fills it with Fire from the Heavenly Altar, and casts the mixture upon the earth. And this causes the beginning of the Seven Year Tribulation. With the beginning of the Tribulation there are approving heavenly voices, thundering voices of the Seven Angels standing before God, lightnings from the Great White Throne, and an earthquake on earth.

The Slain Lamb (New Temple Rev 21:22) and Seven Spirits

Rev 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

Rev 5:6a And I (John) beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the (24) elders, stood a Lamb (Jesus) as it had been slain,

The Throne: see Rev 4:2,3, 5:1, 6:6, Rev 14:14, 20:11

The Four Beasts: see Rev 4:6-9, 5:8, 11, 14, 6:1, 3, 5, 7, 7:11,

The Twenty-Four Elders: see Rev 4:4,10,11, 5:6, 8, 14, Rev 7:11, 13,

The Lamb: see Rev 5:12,13, 6:16, 7:17 12:11, 13:8 14:1 21:21,23 22:21

The Lamb

Rev 5:12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, riches, wisdom, strength, honor, glory, and blessing.

Rev 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I say, Blessing, and honor, and glory, and power, be unto him that sits upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

Rev 6:1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

Rev 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, you know. And he said to me, these are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Rev 7:17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

Rev 13:8 everyone upon earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the Lamb’s book of life slain from the foundation of the world.

Rev 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him a 144,000, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

Rev 21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

Rev 21:23 the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God lightens it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

Rev 22:1 And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

The Seven Angelic Spirits of God

Rev 5:6b having seven horns (Kingly authorities) and seven eyes (integrity and generosity, knowing), which are the seven Spirits of God (Rev 1:4, Rev 3:1, Rev 4:5 Rev 5:6 19:6) sent forth into all the (Tribulation) earth.

The Seven Angelic Spirits Serving God

Rev 1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

Rev 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that has the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know your works, that you have a name that your live, and are dead.

Rev 4:5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

Rev 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the center of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the center of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

Rev 10:3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roars: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices. Rev 10:4 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.

Leviathan

Gal 3:15-17 Heb 7:18 Isa 14:27 Isa 28:15-18

Job 41:1 Cannot you draw out leviathan with a hook? or his tongue with a cord which you let down?

• parallels Gen 3:7 the apron made by Adam and Eve {Acts 19:15 Jesus I know, and Paul I know but who are you 2Cor 10:4,5 weapons are not carnal}

Job 41:1 Cannot you (Job Matt 19:26 Acts 19:15) draw out leviathan (**Lucifer Isa 14:12 Ezek 28:14) with a hook (Isa 28:15-18 covenant=snare) {Gog 38&39})? or his (Leviathan=Lucifer to twist Job 40:1,2) tongue (communication) with a cord (line) which you let down? Job 41:1-8

• Job 41:9 Behold, the hope of him is in vain: shall not one be cast down even at the sight of him? Eph 6:11 wiles of the Devil 2Cor 11:25 1Tim 1:19 shipwrecked 1Tim 3:7 2Tim 2:26 snared
• 1Co 15:2 By which also you are saved, if you keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless you have believed in vain. Rom 1:16 1Cor 1:18 Eph 2:8-10
• Tit 1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he has been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine (Rom 10:9,10 Eph 2:8-10) both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers (1Cor 1:18). Tit 1:10 For there are (1) many unruly (2) and vain talkers (3) and deceivers, (4) specially they of the circumcision: Tit 1:11 (1) Whose mouths must be stopped, (2) who subvert whole houses, (3) teaching things which they ought not, (4) for filthy lucre's sake.

**Leviathan=Lucifer titles

Isa 14:12 Lucifer, 1Kings 22:22, 2Chron 18:21 lying spirit

(2Cor 11:4 marvel not he transforms himself into an angel of light

Hab 1:5 marvelously {John 3:7 marvel not I said you must be born again John 5:28 marvel not})

Isa 14:12 son of the Morning

Ezek 28:14 anointed Cherub

Job 1:7 son of God

Deut 29:18 root bearing gall and wormwood

John 8:44 father of lies

Rev 2:9 seat, Rev 2:9 synagogue, Rev 2:24 depths

Matt 4:1 the Devil

Gen 3:1 serpent

Job 40:15 behemoth

Isa 14:29 Cockatrice-Fiery Flying Serpent Isa 27:1

Isa 30:6 Viper

1Chron 21:1 Satan

2Cor 4:4 god of this world

Eph 2:2 prince of the Power of the Air

Matt 12:27 Beelzebub=lord of the dung pile

Job 41:2 Cannot you put a hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn?

Job 41:2 Cannot you (Job Matt 19:26 Acts 19:15) put a hook (restraint Job 41:1) into his (leviathan Isa 14:12 Ezek 28:14) nose (form of control John 15:5)? or bore his jaw through (form of control) with a thorn?

Natural Man has no Authoritative Power (Gen 3:1-7 Jude 1:9) over Lucifer

1. Psa 74:13 You (God) did divide the sea by your strength: You (God) brake the heads of the dragons (Rev 13:2) in the waters. Psa 74:14 You (God) brake the heads (Rev 12:3 13:1,2) of leviathan (Job 41:34 King of the children of pride Eph 2:2 2Cor 11:13-15) in pieces, and gave him (leviathan) to be meat to the people (Rev 12:6,13-17) inhabiting the wilderness. Psa 74:15 You (God) did cleave the fountain and the flood: you (God) dried up mighty rivers (Ezek 29:4,5 stick to scales Rev 6:2 the bow).
2. Psa 104:26 There go the ships: there is that leviathan (Lucifer), whom you (God) have made to play (2Tim 2:26 James 3:4 the helm) therein.
3. Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast (man of sin) rise up out of the sea (Exo 14:21), having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his (man of sin) horns ten crowns (authority), and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. Judges 16:29 two middle pillars (parallel the man of sin and the false prophet Rev 16:13)
4. Isa 27:1 In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan (Job 41:1 2Pet 2:11,12) the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent (see Job 41:1); and he (God) shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.
5. Isa 59:5 KJV "They (Isa 30:1 Isa 56:11 2Cor 11:13-15) hatch cockatrice' eggs (man of sin and false prophet Rev 16:13), and weave the spider's (Lucifer) web (Rev 12:3 13:1 Isa 30:6): he (2Pet 2:17 Isa 30:10) that eats (2Pet 2:1,15 Rev 2:6, 14 1Kings 18:19 table of Jezebel Rev 2:20-23) of their eggs dies, and that which is crushed breaks out into a viper

• Hos 12:7 the balances of deceit in his hand
• Rev 6:5,6 balances in his hand)."

1. Job 40:21 He (behemoth-Lucifer) lies under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens. Job 40:22 The shady trees (group of fallen angels Ezek 31:9,16,18) cover him (Lucifer) with their shadow; the willows (group of fallen angels) of the brook compass him about. Job 40:23 Behold, he drinks up (Ezek 27:33 Ezek 28:16) a river, and hastes not: he trusts that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth (Isa 14:12 Isa 27:1 Gen 13:10 Jos 3:15 leviathan tries to remove). Job 40:24 He (leviathan) takes it with his eyes ( 2Sam 22:28 1John 2:16): his nose pierces through snares (2Tim 2:26).

Job 41:3 Will he make many supplications unto you? will he speak soft words unto you?

Job 41:3 Will he (leviathan Isa 14:12 Ezek 28:14) make many supplications (earnest prayer-burning incense) unto you (Job Matt 19:26 Acts 19:15)? will he (leviathan) speak soft (entice) words (Dan 8:23 Luke 22:52,53 {Acts 26:18 Col 1:13}) unto you (Job)?

Earnest Prayers

1. 2Ki 23:4 And the king (Josiah) commanded Hilkiah the high priest, and the priests of the second order, and the keepers of the door, to bring forth out of the temple of the LORD all the vessels that were made for Baal (Rev 2:13), and for the grove, and for all the host of heaven: and he burned them without Jerusalem in the fields of Kidron, and carried the ashes of them unto Bethel. 2Ki 23:5 And he put down the idolatrous priests, whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense in the high places in the cities of Judah, and in the places round about Jerusalem; them also that burned incense unto Baal, to the sun, and to the moon, and to the planets, and to all the host of heaven.
2. Isa 1:14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my (God) soul hates: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them. Isa 1:15 And when you spread forth your hands, I will hide my eyes from you: yes, when you make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
3. Isa 30:10 Which say to the seers, see not; and to the prophets, prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:
4. Rev 13:11 And I (John) beheld another beast (false prophet) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he (false prophet) spoke as a dragon.

Smooth Words

1. Mat 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you devour widows' houses, and for a pretense make long prayer: therefore you shall receive the greater damnation. Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, you make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. Psa 55:1,21 safety from the wicked
2. Mar 12:38 And he said unto them in his doctrine, Beware of the scribes, which love to go in long clothing, and love salutations in the marketplaces, Mar 12:39 And the chief seats in the synagogues, and the uppermost rooms at feasts: Mar 12:40 Which devour widows' houses, and for a pretense make long prayers: these shall receive greater damnation.
3. Mat 11:24 But I say unto you, that it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for you. Matt 11:21,22 other cities
4. Mat 23:31 Wherefore you be witnesses unto yourselves, that you are the children of them which killed the prophets. Mat 23:32 Fill you up then the measure of your fathers. Mat 23:33 You serpents, you generation of vipers, how can you escape the damnation of hell?
5. 2Pe 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingers not, and their damnation slumbers not.
6. 2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
7. Luk 22:41 And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed, Luk 22:42 Saying, Father, if you be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done. Luk 22:43 And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. Luk 22:44 And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.
8. Jas 5:17 Elias was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.

• 1Ki 17:1 And Elijah the Tishbite, who was of the inhabitants of Gilead, said unto Ahab, as the LORD God of Israel lives, before whom I stand, there shall not be dew nor rain these years, but according to my word.
• Rom 11:2 God has not cast away his people which he foreknew. were you not what the scripture says of Elias? how he makes intercession to God against Israel, saying,
• Rev 11:6 These (two witnesses) have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
• Luk 4:24 And he said, Verily I say unto you, no prophet is accepted in his own country. Luk 4:25 But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land;

Job 41:4 Will he make a covenant with you? Will you take him for a servant forever?

Job 41:4 Will he (leviathan Isa 14:12 Ezek 28:14) make a covenant (Judas Key) with you (Job Matt 19:26 Acts 19:15)? Will you (Job) take him (leviathan) for a servant forever?

• Judas Key beginning of non-saved Denominationalism Zech 11:12,13 Matt 26:14-16 Mark 14:15, 44 John 13:28,29 Acts 3:14,15 Luke 22:5,6 Luke 22:47,48 unholy kiss 1Cor 11:19, 3John 1:9, John 12:6-money bag Luke 22:5,6 Rev 1:18 3:20 Isa 28:15-18-SCOURGE {Jer 6:30 Luke 18:33 2Tim 3:7-9 Titus 1:16 Rev 2&3})

Treaty with Lucifer

1. Job 31:1 I made a covenant (John 13:26-30 sop) with my eyes; why then should I think upon a maid (Jezebel 1Kings 16:31 Rev 2:20-23)? Job 31:2 For what portion of God is there from above? and what inheritance of the Almighty from on high? Job 31:3 Is not destruction to the wicked? and a strange punishment to the workers of iniquity?
2. Isa 28:21 For the LORD shall rise up as in mount Perazim, he shall be wroth (angry) as in the valley of Gibeon, that he may do his work, his strange work; and bring to pass his act, his strange act.
3. 1Co 10:21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: you cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table (2Pet 2:22 mire Rev 3:16 spew) of devils.
4. Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtill than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, yes, has God said, you shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
5. Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
6. Joh 13:2 And supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him;
7. Act 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?

The Strong Angel

Rev 5:2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, who (Gen 1:1 Rev 1:8,11 Rev 21:6 Rev 22:13) is worthy to open the book, and to lose (Matt 18:18) the seals thereof?

Different Mighty Angels

Rev 5:2a And I (John) saw a strong (powerful) angel proclaiming with a loud voice (Authoritative Participation),

Rev 6:1, 3, 5, 7 The four Beasts, Rev 5:6 Seven Angels of God, Rev 8:2 The Seven Trumpet Angels, Rev 8:3 The Altar Angels, Rev 15:1 The Seven Vial Angels

Rev 10:1 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:

Rev 18:21 And a mighty angel picked up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be hurled down, and shall be found no more at all.

No One Found Worthy

Rev 5:2b Who is worthy to open the book, Rom 3:10-18

Psa 15:1 A Psalm of David. LORD, who shall abide in your tabernacle? who shall dwell in your holy hill? Psa 15:2 (1) He that walks upright, (2) and works righteousness, (3) and speaks the truth in his heart. Psa 15:3 (4) He that backbites not with his tongue, (4) nor does evil to his neighbor, (5) nor takes up a reproach (blame-scorn-contempt) against his neighbor. Psa 15:4 (6) In whose eyes a vile person is contemned (said to be wrong); (1) but he honors them that fear the LORD. (7) He that swears to his own hurt, and changes not. Psa 15:5 (8) He that puts not out his money to usury (interest paid for the use of money), (9) nor takes reward against the innocent. (2) He that does these things shall never be moved.

Pro 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: Pro 6:17 (1) A proud look, (2) a lying tongue, (3) and hands that shed innocent blood, Pro 6:18 (4) A heart that devises wicked imaginations, (5) feet that be swift in running to mischief, Pro 6:19 (6) A false witness that speaks lies, (7) and he that sow’s discord among brethren.

Rev 5:3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. Rev 5:4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
Who Can Lose the Seals

Rev 5:2c and to lose (Rev 5:5) the seals (Matt 18:18 Rev 5:1, {helpers Rev 7:5-8 Rev 11:3-11}) thereof?

Appearance of God Ezek 1:25-28, Dan 7:9, 10 Matt 17:2, 1John 5:7 Rev 1:13-16, Rev 4:2,3 Rev 5:5,6 Rev 19:11-16

Mat 16:19 KJV "And I (Jesus) will give unto you (12 Apostles) the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever you shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever you shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

Mat 18:18 Verily I (Jesus) say unto you, whatsoever you (12 Apostles) shall bind (restrain {see Key of Judas paper}) on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever you shall loose (let go) on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Isa 8:16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

This disallows denominationalism (key of Judas (Isa 28:15-18 Rev 6:1-11 Rev 2&3) upon earth and in the Heavenly Kingdom.

Jesus Opens the Seven Seals and Angels Assist

The Seven Church Angels Assist Jesus: Rev 2:1, 8, 12, 18, Rev 3:1, 7, 14

The Seven Trumpet Angels Assist Jesus: Rev 8:7, 8, 10, 12 Rev 9:1, 13 Rev 11:15

The Woe Angels Assist Jesus: Rev 8:13, 9:12, 11:14, 12:12

The Seven Vial Angels Assist Jesus: Rev 16:2, 3, 4, 8, 10, 12, 17

The Four Beasts Assist Jesus: Rev 6:1, 3, 5, 7

Rev 5:5 And one of the elders says unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda (Rev 19:11-16), the Root of David, has prevailed (John 19:30 Eph 4:8 Matt 27:50-53) to open the book, and to lose the seven seals thereof. Rev 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns (Authoritative Kings) and seven eyes (knowing Rev 4:6 Four Beasts), which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

Rev 1:13 And amid the seven candlesticks one like unto the son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. Rev 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; Rev 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of a water falls. Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp two-edged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

No One Found to Open the Book

Rev 5:3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.

Rev 5:3a and no man in heaven

In Heaven

Rev 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, come up hither, and I will show you things which must be hereafter.

Rev 4:2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

Rev 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I am saying, Blessing, and honor, and glory, and power, be unto him that sit upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

Rev 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about the space of half an hour.

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Rev 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God Day and night.

Rev 19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of many people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honor, and power, unto the Lord our God:

The Earth

Rev 5:3b nor in earth,

The Earth

Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

Rev 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

Rev 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard saying, Blessing, and honor, and glory, and power, be unto him that sits upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

Rev 10:2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,

Rev 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, heavens, and you that dwell in them. Woe to the people of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has but a short time.

Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

Rev 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Rev 21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honor into it.

Under the Earth

Rev 5:3c under the earth, Rev 20:13,14

Rev 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard saying, Blessing, and honor, and glory, and power, be unto him that sits upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

The Book

Rev 5:3d was able to open the book, nor to look thereon.

Rev 5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. Rev 5:2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, who is worthy to open the book, and to lose the seals thereof?

Rev 5:4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. Rev 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to lose the seven seals thereof.

Rev 5:7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. Rev 5:8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four [and] twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odors, which are the prayers of saints. Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, you are worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for you were slain, and have redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

Rev 10:2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and [his] left [foot] on the earth,

Rev 10:9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, take it, and eat it up (Read); and it shall make your belly bitter (information will sicken you), but it shall be in your mouth sweet as honey (you want to know). Rev 10:10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up (read); and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it (Read), my belly was bitter (knowing the information made me sick).

moonbeam said:

Not at all... rather realising that God is a being who is perfect in all dimensions and degrees.

Such a being... is incapable of imperfection.

Therefore to even think it provable that God could act unjustly, is a categoric error.


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If your doctrine is unjust than it is not from God.
No one is trying to "proof" God is unjust.

Arcangl86 said:

Politicians telling voters what they want to here is pretty much how the system works. And candidates proposing extreme policies in the primaries to appeal to the base and then tacking towards the center to try and grab the independent voters is normal.

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Mitt Romney once famously referred to that as an "Etch a Sketch" moment.

-- A2SG, not one of his better moments, but not as odd as the bit with his dog...

A Book

Rev 5:1 And I saw in the right hand (1Kings 18:44 1Cor 10:1 Dan 5:5 Rev 1:16) of him that sat on the throne **a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.

**Isa 34:16 Seek you out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it has commanded, and his spirit it has gathered them.

**Eze 2:9 And when I looked, behold, an hand was sent unto me; and, lo, a roll of a book was therein; Eze 2:10 And he spread it before me; and it was written within and without: and there was written therein lamentations, and mourning, and woe.

The Right Hand

Rev 5:1a And I (John) saw in the right hand (authoritative Rev 1:16a)

Dan 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man (Rev 1:13) came with the clouds Rev 14:14) of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. Dan 7:14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that shall not be destroyed.

Rev 1:16 And he (Jesus) had in his right hand (Rev 5:1) seven stars (Rev 1:16 3:1): and out of his mouth went a sharp two-edged sword (words Rev 2:12,16 TELEKINESIS): and his countenance (appearance) was as (parallel) the sun shines in his strength.

Right Hand: see Rev 1:16a, 1:17b, Rev 1:20, 5:1a, 7

Jesus Sitting on the Heavenly Throne

Rev 5:1b of him (Jesus Rev 1:1, 2-17, 4:2,3, 6:1b, 19:11-16) that sat on *the (heavenly) throne (Dan 7:9,10)

Titles of Jesus: see Rev 1:1, 4,8, 13,18 3:14, 4:11, 5:5, 7

Appearance of Jesus: see Rev 1:13-17, 4:2,3, Rev 19:11-16

Throne: see Rev 1:4c, 3:21, 4:2, Rev 5:1b, 6:6, 14:14, 20:11

Rev 14:14 And I (John) looked, and behold *a white cloud (throne of God Rev 14:15,16, 20:11), and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man (title of Jesus Rev 1:13) having on his head a golden (generosity & compassion) crown (authority) and in his (Jesus) hand a sharp (prepared) sickle (harvest Rev 16:12-16, 14:14-20, Rev 19:11-21). (*throne sequence Rev 4:2,3 Rev 5:1, 6:16, 14:14. 20:11)

The Little Book

Rev 5:1c a book written within (Rev 5:5c) and on the backside (Rev 10:2)

Jer 30:7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.

Eze 2:9 And when I looked, behold, a hand was sent unto me; and, lo, a roll of a book was therein; Eze 2:10 And he spread it before me; and it was written within and without: and there was written therein lamentations, and mourning, and woe.

Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run back and forth, and knowledge shall be increased.

Strong Angel takes the book Rev 5:7

Rev 5:7,8 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. Rev 5:8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odors, which are the prayers of saints.

Rev 10:1-3 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire: Rev 10:2 And he (Mighty Angel) had in his hand (control) a little book open (Jesus opened Rev 5:1): and he set (authorities’ power) his right foot (ability) upon the sea (identifies the man of sin Rev 13:11-18, Rev 13:1-10), and his left foot (ability) on the earth (identifies the false prophet ), Rev 13:1 Man of Sin (Rev 13:11 false prophet) (book taken Rev 5:7,8, Rev 10:1-5) Rev 10:3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roars: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.

John takes book from the Mighty Angel Rev 10:8-11

Rev 10:8 And the voice (Rev 1:12, 4:1) which I heard from heaven talked with me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standsh upon the sea (man of sin) and upon the earth (false prophet). Rev 10:9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in your mouth sweet as honey. Rev 10:10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up (read); and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter. Rev 10:11 And he said unto me, You must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

The Seven Seals

Rev 5:1d sealed with seven steals (6 seals Rev 6:1-17 {seventh seal 8:1})

Isa 29:11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: Isa 29:12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray you: and he says, I am not learned. Isa 29:13 Wherefore the Lord said, forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honor me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:

1st Seal opened Rev 6:1,2 1st Beast white (false peace) horse (man of sin) is rider on horse, rider has a bow (homo rainbow-flag), Lucifer gives rider a crown (restricted authority), rider goes forth conquering (peace treaties) and to conquer (warfare)

2nd Seal opened Rev 6:3,4 2nd Beast red horse (bloody civil, military, and political battle) power (restricted) is given, by Lucifer, to the rider (man of sin of horse), rider takes peace from earth, people kill one another, Lucifer gives a great sword (restricted military warfare) to rider (man of sin)

3rd Seal opened Rev 6:5,6 3rd Beast black horse (parallels suffering) the rider is the (man of sin) and he has a pair of balances in his hand (restricted demonic control). The Authoritative Jesus in the middle of the Four Seraphim says (participating authority) controlling wheat (farm commodities) for a penny (exchange rate) and three measures of barley (farm commodities) for a penny and Jesus instructs the (man of sin) not to injure the oil (orchard products) or the wine (orchard products).

4th Seal opened Rev 6:7,8 4th Beast pale horse (the man of sin

is the rider with restricted authority) and he is named Death and Hell follows Death. (Lucifer gives the man of sin restricted power) over a 1/4th of the earth.

To kill with the sword (warfare), hunger, (starvation), with death (concentration camps), and with the beasts (evil rulers) of the earth.
Rev 5:1d

5th Seal opened Rev 6:9-11 Jesus Controls Scourge Saints Under the Heavenly Altar the souls (Scourge Saints) murdered for keeping the Word of God and for the testimony (of Jesus the Christ) that they hold. And they (Scourge Saints) cried with a loud voice (authoritative participation) calling Lord Jesus holy and true do you not judge and avenge our blood (murders) on those (idolaters) dwelling on earth. Their white robes (paralleling purity) are given to them (Scourge Saints). And they are told to rest for a little season (until the end of the of the 6th Trumpet 3 ½ years) until their fellow servants and brothers (Tribulation Saints) should be killed (are murdered) as they were, should be fulfilled (completing the Word of Jesus)

6th Seal opened Rev 6:12-17 Jesus Controls A great earthquake; the sun turns pitch black, the moon becomes blood, and the stars streak in all directions to earth. Heaven quickly departs, every mountain and island move around, the kings, politicians, rich, military leaders, warriors, slaves, and free men hide in caves and around the rocks of the mountains. Expecting the caves and rocks to hide them from the Father sitting on the throne-and from the wrath of the Lamb. And they confess the Great Day of the Wrath of the Lamb has arrived and they can’t resist His Authoritative Power.

7th Seal opened Rev 8:1-5 Jesus Controls Silence in heaven for a half an hour, with the Seven Trumpet Angels standing before God, and they receive the Seven Trumpets. An Angel arrives at the Heavenly Altar with a Golden Censer and an Angel gives him a great deal of Incense for him to offer the Incense with the Prayers of the Scourge Saints upon the Golden Altar, that is standing before the Great White Throne. The Incense, Prayers of the Scourge Saints, and fire mix in the Cener held by the Angel in his hand, making ascending smoke before God. Following this the Angel takes the Censer and fills it with Fire from the Heavenly Altar, and casts the mixture upon the earth. And this causes the beginning of the Seven Year Tribulation. With the beginning of the Tribulation there are approving heavenly voices, thundering voices of the Seven Angels standing before God, lightnings from the Great White Throne, and an earthquake on earth.

The Liturgist said:

Oh, what books are in your New Testament?

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Oxford Emeritus Professor of Mathematics John Lennox is a Christian apologist. He gave a talk about belief in God in a public lecture at Oxford Union.

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Psa 83:15 KJV "So persecute them with your tempest, and make them afraid with your storm."

Psa 83:15 KJV "So (God) persecute them (confederate Psa 83:2-8) with your (God) tempest, and make them afraid with your (God) storm."

The Tempest and Storm of God

1. Job 9:17 For he breaks me with a tempest, and multiplies my wounds without cause.
2. Job 27:21 The east wind carries him away, and he departs: and as a storm hurrles him out of his place. Job 27:22 For God shall cast upon him, and not spare: he would fain flee out of his hand. Job 27:23 Men shall clap their hands at him, and shall hiss him out of his place.
3. Psa 11:6 Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup.
4. Psa 50:3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.
5. Psa 83:1 A Song or Psalm of Asaph. Keep not you silence, O God: hold not your peace, and be not still, O God.
6. Isa 28:17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.
7. Isa 30:30 And the LORD shall cause his glorious voice to be heard, and shall show the lighting down of his arm, with the indignation of his anger, and with the flame of a devouring fire, with scattering, and tempest, and hailstones.
8. Eze 13:11 Say unto them which daub it with untampered mortar, that it shall fall: there shall be an overflowing shower; and you, O great hailstones, shall fall; and a stormy wind shall rend it. Eze 13:12 Lo, when the wall is fallen, shall it not be said unto you, where is the daubing wherewith you have daubed it? Eze 13:13 Therefore this says the Lord GOD; I will even rend it with a stormy wind in my fury; and there shall be an overflowing shower in mine anger, and great hailstones in my fury to consume it. Eze 13:14 So will I break down the wall that you have daubed with untampered mortar, and bring it down to the ground, so that the foundation thereof shall be discovered, and it shall fall, and you shall be consumed in the midst thereof: and you shall know that I am the LORD.
9. Heb 12:18 For you are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest, Heb 12:19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:

Psa 83:16 KJV "Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek your name, O LORD."

Psa 83:16 KJV "Fill their (confederate Psa 83:2-8) faces with shame; that they may seek your (God) name, O LORD."

• Iniquity is premeditated, continues, and worsens=corruption-reprobate

Turning from Shame to Seek the Lord (Isa 14:12-21 Ezek 28:12-19)

1. Jer 13:23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may you also do good, that are accustomed to do evil. Jer 13:24 Therefore will I scatter them as the stubble that passes away by the wind of the wilderness. Jer 13:25 This is your lot, the portion of your measures from me, says the LORD; because you have forgotten me, and trusted in falsehood. Jer 13:26 Therefore will I discover your skirts upon your face, that your shame may appear. Jer 13:27 I have seen your adulteries, and your neighings (boasting), the lewdness (obscene) of your whoredom (prostitution-filthy lucre), and your abominations (outrage) on the hills in the fields. Woe unto you, O Jerusalem! Will you not be made clean? when shall it once be?
2. Jer 51:51 We are confounded, because we have heard reproach: shame has covered our faces: for strangers are come into the sanctuaries of the LORD'S house. Jer 51:52 Wherefore, behold, the days come, says the LORD, that I will do judgment upon her graven images: and through all her land the wounded shall groan. Jer 51:53 Though Babylon should mount up to heaven, and though she should fortify the height of her strength, yet from me shall spoilers come unto her, says the LORD.
3. Eze 7:18 They shall also gird themselves with sackcloth, and horror shall cover them; and shame shall be upon all faces, and baldness upon all their heads.
4. Neh 3:5 And next unto them the Tekoites repaired; but their nobles put not their necks to the work of their Lord.
5. Psa 6:10 Let all mine enemies be ashamed and sore vexed: let them return and be ashamed suddenly.
6. Psa 9:19 Arise, O LORD; let not man prevail: let the heathen be judged in your sight. Psa 9:20 Put them in fear, O LORD: that the nations may know themselves to be but men. Selah.
7. Psa 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: you hate all workers of iniquity.
8. Isa 55:6 Seek you the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Isa 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. Isa 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says the LORD. Isa 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. Isa 55:10 For as the rain comes down, and the snow from heaven, and returns not thither, but waters the earth, and makes it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: Isa 55:11 So shall my word be that goes forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Psa 83:17 KJV "Let them be confounded and troubled forever; yes, let them be put to shame, and perish:"

Psa 83:17 KJV "Let them (confederate Psa 83:2-8) be confounded and troubled forever; yes, let them be put to shame, and perish:"

• 1Co 1:27 But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God has chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

The Confederate is Confounded, Troubled, put to Shame, and Perish

1. Psa 35:4 Let them be confounded and put to shame that seek after my soul: let them be turned back and brought to confusion that devise my hurt. Psa 35:5 Let them be as chaff before the wind: and let the angel of the LORD chase them. Psa 35:6 Let their way be dark and slippery: and let the angel of the LORD persecute them. Psa 35:7 For without cause have they hid for me their net in a pit, which without cause they have dug for my soul.
2. Psa 35:25 Let them not say in their hearts, Ah, so would we have it: let them not say, We have swallowed him up. Psa 35:26 Let them be ashamed and brought to confusion together that rejoice at mine hurt: let them be clothed with shame and dishonor that magnify themselves against me.
3. Psa 40:14 Let them be ashamed and confounded together that seek after my soul to destroy it; let them be driven backward and put to shame that wish me evil. Psa 40:15 Let them be desolate for a reward of their shame that say unto me, Aha, aha. Psa 40:16 Let all those that seek you rejoice and be glad in you: let such as love your salvation say continually, the LORD be magnified.
4. Psa 109:29 Let my adversaries be clothed with shame, and let them cover themselves with their own confusion, as with a mantle. Psa 109:30 I will greatly praise the LORD with my mouth; yes, I will praise him among the multitude. Psa 70:2 Let them be ashamed and confounded that seek after my soul: let them be turned backward, and put to confusion, that desire my hurt. Psa 70:3 Let them be turned back for a reward of their shame that say, Aha, aha.
5. Psa 71:13 Let them be confounded and consumed that are adversaries to my soul; let them be covered with reproach and dishonor that seek my hurt.

Psa 83:18 KJV "That men may know that you, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, are the most high over all the earth."

Psa 83:18 KJV "That men may know that you, whose name alone is JEHOVAH (Exo 6:3), are the most high over all the earth."

• God-Jesus=Gen 1:1 Exo 6:3 Isa 7:14 Isa 9:6 Matt 1:18 John 1:1-3,14 Dan 7:9,10

The Lord God=Jehovah=Jesus

1. 2Ki 19:19 Now therefore, O LORD our God, I beseech you, save you us out of his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that you are the LORD God, even you only.
2. Psa 59:13 Consume them in wrath, consume them, that they may not be: and let them know that God rules in Jacob unto the ends of the earth. Selah.
3. Isa 5:16 But the LORD of hosts shall be exalted in judgment, and God that is holy shall be sanctified in righteousness.
4. Eze 30:19 Thus will I execute judgments in Egypt: and they shall know that I am the LORD.
5. Isa 54:5 For your Maker is your husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and your Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
6. Mic 4:13 Arise and thresh, O daughter of Zion: for I will make your horn iron, and I will make thy hoofs brass: and you shall beat in pieces many people: and I will consecrate their gain unto the LORD, and their substance unto the Lord of the whole earth.
7. Joh 19:19 And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS.

Psa 83:10 KJV "Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth."

Psa 83:10 KJV (Psa 83:9 Midianites)"Which perished at Endor: they (Psa 83:9 Midianites) became as dung for the earth."

Endor (Canaanite city in northern Isarael near southern tip of the Sea of Galilee Jews failed to take)

1. Jos 17:11 And Manasseh had in Issachar and in (1) Asher Bethshean and (a) her towns, (2) and Ibleam and (a) her towns, (3) and the inhabitants of Dor and (a) her towns, and (4) the inhabitants of Endor and (a) her towns, and (5) the inhabitants of Taanach and (a) her towns, and (6) the inhabitants of Megiddo and (a) her towns, (7) even three countries.
2. 1Sa 28:7 Then said Saul unto his servants, seek me a woman that has a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and enquire of her. And his servants said to him, behold, there is a woman that has a familiar spirit at Endor. Read 1Sa 28

Dung of the Earth

1. 2Ki 9:35 And they went to bury her: but they found no more of her than the skull, and the feet, and the palms of her hands. 2Ki 9:36 Wherefore they came again, and told him. And he said, this is the word of the LORD, which he spoke by his servant Elijah the Tishbite, saying, in the portion of Jezreel shall dogs eat the flesh of Jezebel: 2Ki 9:37 And the carcass of Jezebel shall be as dung upon the face of the field in the portion of Jezreel; so that they shall not say, this is Jezebel.
2. Jer 8:2 And they shall spread them before the sun, and the moon, and all the host of heaven, whom they have loved, and whom they have served, and after whom they have walked, and whom they have sought, and whom they have worshipped: they shall not be gathered, nor be buried; they shall be for dung upon the face of the earth. Jer 8:3 And death shall be chosen rather than life by all the residue of them that remain of this evil family, which remain in all the places whither I have driven them, saith the LORD of hosts. Isa 31:1 Eph 2:2 children of disobedience
3. Jer 16:3 For this says the LORD concerning the sons and concerning the daughters that are born in this place, and concerning their mothers that bare them, and concerning their fathers that begat them in this land; Jer 16:4 They shall die of grievous deaths; they shall not be lamented; neither shall they be buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the sword, and by famine; and their carcasses shall be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the beasts of the earth.
4. Luk 14:35 It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; but men cast it out. He that has ears to hear, let him hear.
5. Php 3:8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
6. Rev 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against you, because you suffer that woman Jezebel, which calls herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. Rev 2:21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Rev 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. Rev 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searches the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

Psa 83:11 KJV "Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb: yes, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna:"

Psa 83:11 KJV "Make their nobles like Oreb (Midianite Prince), and like Zeeb (Midianite Prince): yes, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna:"

Jdgs 7:25 And they took two princes of the Midianites, Oreb and Zeeb; and they slew Oreb upon the rock Oreb, and Zeeb they slew at the winepress of Zeeb, and pursued Midian, and brought the heads of Oreb and Zeeb to Gideon on the other side Jordan.

Zebah and Zalmunna
Jdgs 8:4 And Gideon came to Jordan, and passed over, he, and the three hundred men that were with him, faint, yet pursuing them. Jdgs 8:5 And he said unto the men of Succoth, give, I pray you, loaves of bread unto the people that follow me; for they be faint, and I am pursuing after Zebah and Zalmunna, kings of Midian. Jdgs 8:6 And the princes of Succoth said, are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now in your hand, that we should give bread unto your army? Jdgs 8:7 And Gideon said, therefore when the LORD has delivered Zebah and Zalmunna into my hand, then I will tear your flesh with the thorns of the wilderness and with briers. Jdgs 8:8 And he went up thence to Penuel, and spoke unto them likewise: and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered him. Jdgs 8:9 And he spoke also unto the men of Penuel, saying, when I come again in peace, I will break down this tower. Jdgs 8:10 Now Zebah and Zalmunna were in Karkor, and their hosts with them, about fifteen thousand men, all that were left of all the hosts of the children of the east: for there fell a hundred and twenty thousand men that drew sword. Jdgs 8:11 And Gideon went up by the way of them that dwelt in tents on the east of Nobah and Jogbehah, and smote the host: for the host was secure. Jdgs 8:12 And when Zebah and Zalmunna fled, he pursued after them, and took the two kings of Midian, Zebah and Zalmunna, and discomfited all the host. Jdgs 8:13 And Gideon the son of Joash returned from battle before the sun was up, Jdgs 8:14 And caught a young man of the men of Succoth, and enquired of him: and he described unto him the princes of Succoth, and the elders thereof, even threescore and seventeen men. Jdgs 8:15 And he came unto the men of Succoth, and said, behold Zebah and Zalmunna, with whom you did upbraid me, saying, are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now in your hand, that we should give bread unto your men that are weary? Jdgs 8:16 And he took the elders of the city, and thorns of the wilderness and briers, and with them he taught the men of Succoth. Jdgs 8:17 And he beat down the tower of Penuel, and slew the men of the city. Jdgs 8:18 Then said he unto Zebah and Zalmunna, what manner of men were they whom you slew at Tabor? And they answered, As you are, so were they; each one resembled the children of a king. Jdgs 8:19 And he said, they were my brethren, even the sons of my mother: as the LORD lives, if you had saved them alive, I would not slay you. Jdgs. 8:20 And he said unto Jether his firstborn, up, and slay them. But the youth drew not his sword: for he feared, because he was yet a youth. Jdgs 8:21 Then Zebah and Zalmunna said, rise you, and fall upon us: for as the man is, so is his strength. And Gideon arose, and slew Zebah and Zalmunna, and took away the ornaments that were on their camels' necks.
Psa 83:12 KJV "Who said, let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession."

Psa 83:12 KJV "Who said (Psa 83:3,4 confederacy), let us take to ourselves the houses (Psa 74:8) of God in possession."

• Psa 83:3 KJV "They (enemy confederate Psa 83:2,5) have taken **crafty counsel (communications=propaganda-false news) against your (God) people (Jews), and consulted against your (God) hidden ones (Christian Saints Psa 17:8,9 Psa 27:5,10,14 Psa 31:20-pavilion-Psa 31:24-all that hope-Titus 2:13 Psa 64:1-10 Psa 91:1 secret place Matt 13:44 Col 3:3 hid with Christ in God)."
• Psa 83:4 KJV "They (enemy confederate Psa 83:2-7) have said (Crafty Counsel Psa 83:3), come, and let us cut (Psa 83:2 lift up the head) them (Jews) off from being a nation (May 14, 1948 Israel a Nation Psa 83:12 Isa 66:8 Ezek 37:12-14); that the name of Israel (the Promise of God) may be no more (knocking baby heads against the wall) in remembrance (extermination)."

The Houses of God

1. Psa 74:7-10 They have cast fire into thy sanctuary, they have defiled by casting down the dwelling place of your name to the ground. Psa 74:8 They said in their hearts, Let us destroy them together: they have burned up all the synagogues of God in the land. Psa 74:9 We see not our signs: there is no more any prophet: neither is there among us any that knows how long. Psa 74:10 O God, how long shall the adversary reproach? shall the enemy blaspheme your name forever?
2. Act 17:23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore you ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. Act 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwells not in temples made with hands John 2:21 1Cor 6:19,20 Acts 7:48); Act 17:25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed anything, seeing he gives to all life, and breath, and all things;

Psa 83:13 KJV "O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind."

Psa 83:13 KJV "O my (Asaph Psa 83:1) God (Psa 22:1 44:4), make them (confederate Psa 83:2-8) like a wheel (snake consuming its tail Isa 17:12-14); as the stubble (knocked down) before the wind (blowen away)."
Consuming Itself

1. Mat 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
2. Luk 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spoke unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
3. Isa 17:12 Woe to the multitude of many people, which make a noise like the noise of the seas; and to the rushing of nations, that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters! Isa 17:13 The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind. Isa 17:14 And behold at evening tide trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.
4. Isa 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.

The Confederate as Chaff

• Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
• Job 21:18 They are as stubble before the wind, as chaff that storm carries away.
• Isa 29:6 You shall be visited of the LORD of hosts with thunder, with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the flame of devouring fire.

1. Exo 15:7 And in the greatness of your excellency you have overthrown them that rose up against you: you sent forth your wrath, which consumed them as stubble.
2. Job 21:18 They are as stubble before the wind, and as chaff that the storm carries away.
3. Psa 35:5 Let them be as chaff afore the wind: let the angel of the LORD chase them.
4. Isa 40:24 Yes, they shall not be planted; yes, they shall not be sown: yes, their stock shall not take root in the earth: and he shall also blow upon them, and they shall wither, and the whirlwind shall take them away as stubble.
5. Isa 41:2 Who raised up the righteous man from the east, called him to his foot, gave the nations before him, and made him rule over kings? He gave them as the dust to his sword, and as driven stubble to his bow.
6. Jer 13:24 Therefore will I scatter them as the stubble that passes away by the wind of the wilderness.
7. Mat 3:12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
8. 1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house (physical body) of God: and if it first begin at us (Christians), what shall the end be of them (Isa 30:1 Eph 2:2) that obey not the gospel of God?

Psa 83:14 KJV "As the fire burns a wood, and as the flame sets the mountains on fire;"

Psa 83:14 KJV "As the fire burns (consumes) a wood, and as the flame sets (starts) the mountains on fire;"

Consuming Wood

1. Isa 30:33 For Tophet is ordained of old; yes, for the king it is prepared; he hath made it deep and large: the pile thereof is fire and much wood; the breath of the LORD, like a stream of brimstone, does kindle it.
2. Isa 33:11 You shall conceive chaff, ye shall bring forth stubble: your breath, as fire, shall devour you. Isa 33:12 And the people shall be as the burnings of lime: as thorns cut up shall they be burned in the fire.
3. Isa 64:1 Oh that you would rend the heavens, that you would come down, that the mountains might flow down at your presence, Isa 64:2 As when the melting fire burns, the fire causes the waters to boil, to make your name known to your adversaries, that the nations may tremble at your presence!
4. Jer 1:13 And the word of the LORD came unto me the second time, saying, what see you? And I said, I see a seething pot; and the face thereof is toward the north.
5. Job 41:20 Out of his nostrils goes smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron.
6. Eze 20:47 And say to the forest of the south, Hear the word of the LORD; Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will kindle a fire in you, and it shall devour every green tree in you, and every dry tree: the flaming flame shall not be quenched, and all faces from the south to the north shall be burned therein. Eze 20:48 And all flesh shall see that I the LORD have kindled it: it shall not be quenched.
7. Mal 4:1 For, behold, the day comes, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yes, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that comes shall burn them up, says the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

Setting Mountains on Fire

1. Deu 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.
2. Nah 1:6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? His fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him. Nah 1:7 The LORD is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and he knows them that trust in him. Nah 1:8 But with an overrunning flood he will make an utter end of the place thereof, and darkness shall pursue his enemies. Nah 1:9 What do you imagine against the LORD? he will make an utter end: affliction shall not rise up the second time. Nah 1:10 For while they be folded together as thorns, and while they are drunken as drunkards, they shall be devoured as stubble fully dry. Nah 1:11 There is one come out of you, that imagines evil against the LORD, a wicked counsellor. Nah 1:12 This says the LORD; though they be quiet, and likewise many, yet thus shall they be cut down, when he shall pass through. Though I have afflicted you, I will afflict you no more. Nah 1:13 For now will I break his yoke from off you, and will burst your bonds in sunder.

Psa 83:5 KJV "For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against you:"

Psa 83:5 KJV "For they (enemy confederate Psa 83:1-4) have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate (Psa 83:2) against you (God):"

• Psa 83:2 For, lo, your enemies make a tumult: and they that hate you (God) have lifted up the head.

Consulting Together Against Israel

1. Psa 2:2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
2. Pro 21:30 There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the LORD.
3. Isa 8:9 Associate yourselves, O you people, and you shall be broken in pieces; and give ear, all ye of far countries: gird yourselves, and ye shall be broken in pieces; gird yourselves, and ye shall be broken in pieces. Isa 8:10 Take counsel together, and it shall come to nought; speak the word, and it shall not stand: for God is with us.
4. Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against you shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against you in judgment thou shall condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, says the LORD.

Psa 83:6 The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;

Psa 83:6 The tabernacles (moveable habitation) of (1) Edom, (2) and the Ishmaelites; (3) of Moab, (4) and the Hagarenes;

• Isa 66:8 Who hath heard such a thing? who has seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
• Eze 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, this says the Lord GOD; behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. Eze 37:13 And you shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, Eze 37:14 And shall put my spirit in you, and you shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall you know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

1. Edom – southwest Jordan
2. Ishmaelites – Saudi Arabia
3. Moab - Palestinians and central Jordan
4. Hagarenes - Egyptians

Psa 83:7 KJV "Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;"

Psa 83:7 KJV "(5) Gebal, and (6) Ammon, and (7) Amalek; (8) the Philistines with (9) the inhabitants of Tyre;"

• Isa 66:8 Who hath heard such a thing? who has seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
• Eze 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, this says the Lord GOD; behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. Eze 37:13 And you shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, Eze 37:14 And shall put my spirit in you, and you shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall you know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

1. Gebal - Hezbollah and northern Lebanese
2. Ammon - Palestinians and northern Jordan
3. Amalek Arabia of the Sinai area
4. Philistines - Hamas of Gaza strip
5. Tyre - Hezbollah and southern Lebanon

Psa 83:8 KJV "Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children (Edom and Moab-Jordan) of Lot. Selah."

Psa 83:8 KJV "(10) Assur also is joined with them (enemy confederate Psa 83:1-4): they have holpen (helped) the children (Moab and Ammon-Jordan Gen 19:36-38) of Lot. Selah."

• Isa 66:8 Who hath heard such a thing? who has seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.
• Eze 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, this says the Lord GOD; behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. Eze 37:13 And you shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, Eze 37:14 And shall put my spirit in you, and you shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall you know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

Assur - Syrians and northern Iraq

Psa 83:9 KJV "Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison:"

Psa 83:9 KJV "Do unto them (enemy confederate Psa 83:6-8) as unto the Midianites (Arabian Canaanites); as to Sisera (Commander of King Jabin), as to Jabin (King of Hazor), at the brook of Kison (1Kings 18:40 River in northern Israel near city of Haifa flowing into the Mediterranean):"

• Midianites early Arabic Canaanite tribe, wared with Israelites, descendants of Abraham before selection by God, not under the Abraham Covenant.

The Midianites (Isa 10:26 Isa 28:15-18 Jer 1:13 Parallel of coming Israeli Islam-Idolatry war)

1. Num 31:7 And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males. Num 31:8 And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword. Num 31:9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods.
2. Jdgs 7:22 And the three hundred blew the trumpets, and the LORD set every man's sword against his fellow, even throughout all the host: and the host fled to Bethshittah in Zererath, and to the border of Abelmeholah, unto Tabbath. Jdgs 7:23 And the men of Israel gathered themselves together out of Naphtali, and out of Asher, and out of all Manasseh, and pursued after the Midianites. Jdgs 7:24 And Gideon sent messengers throughout all mount Ephraim, saying, come down against the Midianites, and take before them the waters unto Bethbarah and Jordan. Then all the men of Ephraim gathered themselves together, and took the waters unto Bethbarah and Jordan. Jdgs 7:25 And they took two princes of the Midianites, Oreb and Zeeb; and they slew Oreb upon the rock Oreb, and Zeeb they slew at the winepress of Zeeb, and pursued Midian, and brought the heads of Oreb and Zeeb to Gideon on the other side Jordan.
3. Isa 9:4 For you have broken the yoke of his burden, and the staff of his shoulder, the rod of his oppressor, as in the day of Midian.
4. Isa 10:26 And the LORD of hosts shall stir up a scourge for him according to the slaughter of Midian at the rock of Oreb: and as his rod was upon the sea, so shall he lift it up after the manner of Egypt.

Sisera and King Jabin of Hazor

• Sisera commander of the Army of the Canaanite King Jabin of Hazor.

Jdgs 4:15 And the LORD discomfited Sisera (Canaanite Commander), and all his chariots, and all his host, with the edge of the sword before Barak (Jewish Commander {with prophet Deborah}); so that Sisera lighted down off his chariot, and fled away on his feet. Jdgs 4:16 But Barak pursued after the chariots, and after the host, unto Harosheth (at the entrance of the pass to Esdraelon from the plain of Acre at the base of Carmel) of the Gentiles: and all the host of Sisera fell upon the edge of the sword; and there was not a man left. Jdgs 4:17 Howbeit Sisera fled away on his feet to the tent of Jael (defeated Jabin’s army) the wife of Heber the Kenite (tribe associated with Jews and Midianites): for there was peace between Jabin the king of Hazor (Jewish and Canaanite city Josh 11:10) and the house of Heber (Jewish north of the sea of Galilee) the Kenite. Jdgs 4:18 And Jael went out to meet Sisera, and said unto him, Turn in, my lord, turn in to me; fear not. And when he had turned in unto her into the tent, she covered him with a mantle. Jdgs 4:19 And he said unto her, Give me, I pray you, a little water to drink; for I am thirsty. And she opened a bottle of milk, and gave him drink, and covered him. Jdgs 4:20 Again he said unto her, Stand in the door of the tent, and it shall be, when any man does come and enquire of you, and say, is there any man here? that you shall say, No. Jdgs 4:21 Then Jael Heber's (1) wife took a nail of the tent, and (2) took an hammer in her hand, (3) and went softly unto him, (4) and smote the nail into his temples, (5) and fastened it into the ground: for he was fast asleep and weary. So he died. Jdgs 4:22 And, behold, as Barak pursued Sisera, Jael came out to meet him, and said unto him, come, and I will show you the man whom you seek. And when he came into her tent, behold, Sisera lay dead, and the nail was in his temples. Jdgs 4:23 So God subdued on that day Jabin the king of Canaan before the children of Israel. Jdgs 4:24 And the hand of the children of Israel prospered, and prevailed against Jabin the king of Canaan, until they had destroyed Jabin king of Canaan.

Josheb said:

Of course you are.

You are not perfect, so you are, simply as a matter of inevitability, doing something wrong.

Therefore, stop asking that question and start asking a more fruitful question(s). For example, the word "wrong" can have to meanings, one more and one efficacious. The question, "Have I done something that is immoral?" is a MUCH different question than, "Have I done something that is ineffective?" The first question is going to bring on guilt and shame and guilt and shame rarely help anyone solve a problem objectively or effectively. The second question can facilitate a goal-oriented response and that might contribute to improving the many problems existing within you and your marriage. Your wife's problems are not yours to solve. Thinking you can or should solve her problems may be one of the things you've done wrong . That's not a moral wrong, though. That is an ineffective wrong, not a moral wrong.

Think of it this way: the popular tele-counselor Dr. Phil often asks his victim's a very simple question. He asks them a bunch of questions and lets them tell their stories, and as they do so the audience increasingly sees the inanity of the game show participant's life. When the obviousness of the inanity reaches a critical point Dr. Phil springs the infamous question, "Why's that working for you?" And, of course, the other person has that momentary introspective look and answers, "I guess it's not."

In all the many years I was a counselor I rarely happened upon a client who did not already know if and when their behavior was immoral. No one needs to be told yelling epithets at a spouse is morally wrong. No one needs to be told rape, battery, theft, etc. are morally wrong. A few, occasionally, need that explained to them but most of counseling has absolutely nothing to do with morality. They better question is always "How is what you are currently doing helping you achieve your goals?" or "How is what you are currently doing help you achieve the life you would like to obtain?"

The answers to those questions mean you must first know what your goals are.

If you do not know where you are going, then you most definitely will not get there . It's not rocket science, but the simplicity and value of that principle often escapes people. If you're moralizing, then stop it. On the occasion that you do err morally the prescription is very plain and already known: apologize! Or, if you're interested in a more thorough response the confess the wrongdoing, purpose not to repeat the behavior and replace it with more godly alternatives, make amends wherever possible and ask for forgiveness (and receive it when given). You already know this. On the occasion you try something that does not work then, again, the prescription is readily available: chalk it up to an ineffective action, something that didn't get you where you wanted to go and try something else.

Guard your mind against "Nothing I do will ever make a difference!" and train yourself to say, "Well, that didn't work as well as I thought i might so let me try something else."

1 Corinthians 10:23
All things are permitted, but not all things are of benefit. All things are permitted, but not all things build people up.

Moralizing yourself into guilt, shame, and remorse is permitted, but it is not very beneficial and does not edify you. Accepting the fact that you, me, your wife, Ricky, Lucy, Bert, Ernie, and everyone else is a sinner is a reality that everyone should accept. Once accepted, the power the Christian has facing sin to overcome it in the otherwise ordinary circumstances of life can be enormously empowering.

Set some goals. Set a few easily accomplished ones that prospectively will move you toward solving the problems alluded to in the op OR moving you, personally, toward a position where you are better able to do so. Set some moderately distant goals and set some goals that are more over-arching and will take time to accomplish. Work them all a little at a time. Review them periodically to 1) measure progress and 2) make adjustments wherever needed (because mistakes will be made).

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thank you

J_B_ said:

I'm curious to hear what people have to say about the things they are devoted to: sports, family, job, hobby, etc. I'd also be curious to hear what motivates that devotion.

Of course, there are similarities and dissimilarities between such devotion and Christian faith, and yes, we can discuss those as well. But I'm not interested in arguments striving to claim that such similarities prove a subconscious desire for the spiritual.

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Me? Devoted. Devoted. What does that mean? ... whatever it actually means in degree and application, I'd say I'm devoted to my family and my books, and a daily dose of motivational music. Sometimes, I watch a bit of sports or a favorite sci-fi t.v. show.

I'm just a simple, analytically oriented nerd who loves his family. And who strives to follow Jesus as best I can...

... What about you, J.B. ?? What's your locus of interests and devotion?

Joseph G said:

Question. What does plurality mean?

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It means more than one.

Joseph G said:

Successive ages or unique concurrent ages?

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Successive.

Joseph G said:

Or both somehow?

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Could be.

Joseph G said:

What is the point of the Lord building our character here?

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Good question.

Joseph G said:

We are destined for Heaven anyways. Well one of the obvious reasons is to become more Christ-like, which I would imagine enables us to bear greater fruit for the Kingdom, which gives us satisfaction in our work. Who doesn't appreciate incremental promotions to a closer walk with God and resulting responsibilities to love others? Otherwise, WE become stagnant and bored. And incidentally in that process, God's pruning is incredibly effective.

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Right. That's the process of sanctification. Check out How to grow in faith

Joseph G said:

Already, in photos and videos and what-not, we can't believe everything we see. No worries though, WE won't be deceived, because we continually fix our gaze upon the Truth Himself.

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Amen.

Joseph G said:

I sincerely agree that the possibilities of advancement in all aspects of existence in the next life, are gonna blow our minds - especially as God is pleased to reveal a wee bit at a time to motivate us. Who needs man's forms of entertainment when we have His? Perpetual joy indeed.

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Amen, brother

I think of Ezra 9:1-12 and repentance to God, who alone judges us by our ancestors actions, from ancestral sin.