Harris told ACLU in 2019 she supports cuts to ICE funding and providing gender transition surgery to detained migrants

[Hazelelponi]

Would you be okay with it if they weren't getting transgender care?

While they are here - until they are deported - if someone gets ill yes, I believe we should give them necessary medical.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

While they are here - until they are deported - if someone gets ill yes, I believe we should give them necessary medical.

Fortunately for you, in order for Medi-Cal to cover any gender-affirming care, it must be determined to be medically necessary.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Fortunately for you, in order for Medi-Cal to cover any gender-affirming care, it must be determined to be medically necessary.

None are. Not one.

And I'll fight over it. But this isn't the thread for it.

Medical necessity is actually a specific category. No transgender surgeries qualify, and I don't care which left winger trots up to say they are.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

None are. Not one.

And I'll fight over it. But this isn't the thread for it.

Medical necessity is actually a specific category. No transgender surgeries qualify, and I don't care which left winger trots up to say they are.

Unless you're a doctor, your opinions on what is or isn't medically necessary are irrelevant. And the only people who can determine what is or isn't medically necessary on an individual basis are those doctors who have examined the patient personally.

The fact is that the standard for Medi-Cal to provide coverage for gender-affirming surgery for anyone (citizen or not) is medical necessity, and has been for many years now. This is not a new thing.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Unless you're a doctor, your opinions on what is or isn't medically necessary are irrelevant. And the only people who can determine what is or isn't medically necessary on an individual basis are those doctors who have examined the patient personally.

The fact is that the standard for Medi-Cal to provide coverage for gender-affirming surgery for anyone (citizen or not) is medical necessity, and has been for many years now. This is not a new thing.

Not the right thread.

Far cheaper remedies for someone who just wants to die. Get them out of my country.

I demand my government, that I get to vote for, withhold all funding for California Medical programs (in total) until this is resolved....

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Not the right thread.

You say that, but you're the one who brought it up. There's nothing special about this situation, aside from the fact that certain undocumented migrants are eligible for the same Medicaid benefits as other Californians. I'm not sure why you're focusing on the trans aspect specifically - it likely applies to a couple thousand people at most (out of 10-15 million total people in the program).

Far cheaper remedies for someone who just wants to die. Get them out of my country.

I'm sorry, what?

I demand my government, that I get to vote for, withhold all funding for California Medical programs (in total) until this is resolved....

And I demand that my government, that I get to vote for, continue funding for Medi-Cal (just as they do for every other state Medicaid program) and ignore the ravings of people like you.

 

[Arcangl86]

Not the right thread.

Far cheaper remedies for someone who just wants to die. Get them out of my country.

I demand my government, that I get to vote for, withhold all funding for California Medical programs (in total) until this is resolved....

Medicaid is administered on a block grant basis. It's up to the states to determine eligibility, both persons and procedures. And even if that wasn't the case, your proposed solution of withholding all health funding would almost certainly be illegal under the anti-commandeering principle. In fact, there is a case that is exactly on point in that it talks about Medicaid funding and eligibility requirements set by the feds, National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius.

 

[NxNW]

Are you trolling me?

Not at all. There is no such position.

 

[HARK!]

Not at all. There is no such position.

She was given authority to use the full authority of the President's office to solve the problem, as if Biden himself had spoken.

I wouldn't want to claim credit for her position; If I had failed as miserably as she either.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

There is no such thing as Border Czar Harris.

So the media was mistaken about that then...

https://www.axios.com/2021/04/14/harris-immigration-visit-mexico-guatemala

Biden tasks Harris with tackling migrant influx on US-Mexico border

The numbers of migrants crossing the southern US border has risen since Mr Biden took office.

www.bbc.com

I've queued up this video right to the montage of the various media outlets referring to her with such a title (and then claiming that wasn't the case later)

Perhaps they should all publish full and frank retractions on that as opposed to what they did do, which was to claim "we never said that"

 

[HARK!]

So the media was mistaken about that then...

https://www.axios.com/2021/04/14/harris-immigration-visit-mexico-guatemala

Biden tasks Harris with tackling migrant influx on US-Mexico border

The numbers of migrants crossing the southern US border has risen since Mr Biden took office.

www.bbc.com

I've queued up this video right to the montage of the various media outlets referring to her with such a title (and then claiming that wasn't the case later)

Perhaps they should all publish full and frank retractions on that as opposed to what they did do, which was to claim "we never said that"

I have something even better, It's from Biden's own mouth that he gave Harris full authority to lead the handling of the border crisis; and that when she speaks on the matter, that it is as if Biden himself spoke.

 

[HARK!]

Yep Harris had full authority over this failure; but she, and many on the Left, feel that she shouldn't take any responsibility.

Nope, not only is she allowing criminals to pour over the border; but she wants to coddle them by forcing the American tax payer to pay for their sex changes, as they struggle to pay the bills for their basic necessities in this disastrous economy.

 

[Pommer]

I have something even better, It's from Biden's own mouth that he gave Harris full authority to lead the handling of the border crisis; and that when she speaks on the matter, that it is as if Biden himself spoke.

Thanks for finding a video in which the President clearly (if muffledly) stated that “it’s not her full responsibility or job…”. She led the “team”; they might still be working on things?

 

[HARK!]

Thanks for finding a video

Oh you're quite welcome. It's my pleasure. Glad to clear up any misconceptions, lies, or propaganda that you might have been exposed to.

“it’s not her full responsibility or job…”.

Nope, but let's not get tunnel vision from the misconceptions, lies and propaganda that abound.

Let's not take one soundbite out of context; and run with propaganda induced bias. Let's look at the big picture in context. She had other responsibilities beside being the top authority for solving the border crisis.

"...there's about five other major things she's handling but I've asked her the VP today because she's the most qualified person to do it to lead our efforts..."

"...to stop what's happening..,"


"...but the vice presidents agree among the multiple other things that I have her leading..."

"...she's leading the effort because i think the best thing to do is to put someone who when he or she speaks they don't have to wonder about is that where the president is when she speaks she speaks for me doesn't have to check with me she knows what she's doing..."


I don't know what those other responsibilities were; but based on all of the other problems this administration has caused, I would say that she failed at all of them miserably.

Again, I'm grateful for having the opportunity to assist with clearing up any potential misconceptions. It's an honor.