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Gideon was beating out wheat in the WINEPRESS
- By tonychanyt
- Bibliology & Hermeneutics
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Threshing was the process of separating grain kernels from their stalks and husks. Normally, this was done in an open, breezy place where the wind could help separate the grain from the chaff. But there was a problem - an open space like that could be seen easily.
In the case of Gideon, Judges 6:
This was how the Bible introduced our hero Gideon - not on a battlefield or in a palace, but hiding in a winepress, desperately trying to preserve his family's food.
Yet the very next verse contains a striking contrast:
God does not see us superficially. He sees deep inside us.
The Vatican Pushes for Peace as the War in Ukraine Approaches Its Third Winter
- OBOB General Politics Forum
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And I'm afraid for them now ... now that North Korean troops are there.In my opinion, 10 times more Ukrainians died than is stated here
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Read Dante’s ‘Purgatorio’ for All Souls’ Day
- By Michie
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
- 6 Replies
Thank you!
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This priest’s 1952 doctoral thesis shows why it is better to vote for the lesser evil
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
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I couldn't resist a reply.Fr. Thomas Cranny submitted his doctoral dissertation 'The Moral Obligation of Voting' to Catholic University of America in 1952, and it includes a chapter on 'conditions under which one may vote for unworthy candidates.'
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This priest's 1952 doctoral thesis shows why it is better to vote for the lesser evil - LifeSite
Fr. Titus Cranny submitted his doctoral dissertation 'The Moral Obligation of Voting' to Catholic University of America in 1952, and it includes a chapter on 'conditions under which one may vote for unworthy candidates.'www.lifesitenews.com
The scenario here is between bad candidate B and even worse candidate A. No other options other than not voting at all, at least as proposed in the article about the doctoral thesis. I have three theology degree doctoral theses on my bookshelf and they are all excellent works, but, sadly I have nothing at all by this author. So I don't know if he looked at the morality of voting for a write in candidate. So, from the article, A or B. In that scenario we should all be voting for B. You can vote for B to stop candidate A. In that one scenario.
But in a scenario where A (really bad) and B (almost as bad) and C (not bad but not polling well) are candidates, a scenario not mentioned in the article as far as I could find, I think we have a duty to vote for the least worst candidate. IMHO if A wins, it is not at all my fault. It IS the fault of people who voted for A. I have not cooperated with evil in not voting effectively against A. I have not formally or even remotely cooperated in evil. I have, in fact opposed evil. But if B wins, and I voted for B to stop A, I would have at least remotely cooperated in the evil of electing B. The solution is to vote for C. Those who vote for A or for B are morally complicit in who they have voted for. That can't be helped.
Going back to pre-election preparation for a messy election aftermath. Pantry stocked, cars gassed up, ready to hunker down. On Tuesday I work as an election judge in my precinct. My vote for Peter Sonski and Lauren Onak will be lost in the noise. Oh well. America will have spoken. We will get the government we deserve.
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Pope Francis mourns the children who were never born
- By RileyG
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
- 3 Replies
That's my understanding as well.Yes you can.
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The Mystery of What Confirmed My Faith
- By Lukaris
- Deeper Fellowship
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There are 2 ways ( I am aware of) of discerning things in the New Testament of what we hear in the general world. For ex. it is a good ethic to be kind to one another; this falls within what I believe St. Paul tells us in Philippians 4:8. Probably someone like Confucius expressed such a sentiment. If that person is not a Christian, they are not likely a deceiver.
On the other hand if someone claims to be Christian and tells you that Jesus Christ was an enlightened guy like Confucius, that person is either a deceiver or deluded. We need to test the spirits ( 1 John 4:1-3) but take care in doing so ( 2 Thessalonians 3:13-16, Matthew 10:16).
We are told to test all things and hold fast to what is good ( 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22). The old Christian creeds express a sound theology for anyone and are helpful as a guard against unsound preaching. For ex. the Apostles Creed:
www.crcna.org
As far as knowing Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior ( see Romans 10:9-13 etc.) and basic living by faith in the world and within our souls ( see Romans 13:1-14 etc.).
On the other hand if someone claims to be Christian and tells you that Jesus Christ was an enlightened guy like Confucius, that person is either a deceiver or deluded. We need to test the spirits ( 1 John 4:1-3) but take care in doing so ( 2 Thessalonians 3:13-16, Matthew 10:16).
We are told to test all things and hold fast to what is good ( 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22). The old Christian creeds express a sound theology for anyone and are helpful as a guard against unsound preaching. For ex. the Apostles Creed:
Apostles' Creed
As far as knowing Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior ( see Romans 10:9-13 etc.) and basic living by faith in the world and within our souls ( see Romans 13:1-14 etc.).
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