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fhansen · 2025-11-08T17:39:06-0600

Clare73 said:
See post #90, address the Scriptures there.

I already have, many times. There's nothing about imputed, at least as in personal righteousness not given; there's just righteousness-and unrighteousness- with concepts such as righteousness reckoned or charged, righteousness given, many made righteous...

To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law. Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come.

For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ! Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous. Rom 5:13-14, 17-19

Same with Phil 3:9, nothing about an imputed righteousness at all:
"...not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ—the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith."

This is all about the gift of righteousness, as we become united with Him:

“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people." Jer 31:33-34

"...not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ—the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith." Phil 3:9

"But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe." Rom 3:21-22"

"And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us." Rom 5:5

"For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!" Rom 5:17

“The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” Rom 5:20-21

"You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness. I am using an example from everyday life because of your human limitations. Just as you used to offer yourselves as slaves to impurity and to ever-increasing wickedness, so now offer yourselves as slaves to righteousness leading to holiness. When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life." Rom 6:18-22

"For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit." Rom 8:3-4

“Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation—but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live. For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.” Rom 8:12-14

“The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!” Gal 2:20-21

God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. 2 Cor 5:21

“I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. John 15:5-6

Landon Caeli · 2025-11-08T17:09:25-0600

Nancy who..??

Landon Caeli · 2025-11-08T17:03:54-0600

Them Trump boys. Always up to no good...

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Reginald Taylor Jr · 2025-11-08T16:59:48-0600

November 8, 2025

1 Peter 2:24 KJV
[24] who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

My Interpetation:
To be set free from checks and balances scales through Jesus Sacrifice on cross death 3rd day rise again from grave.

Provided - Hand of God Taking Authority over our words and minds speaking faith , living your life like God, Christians. Giving abilities to perform and performance.
Mark 1:15 KJV
'“The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” '

To believe I'm Jesus Christ to be the truth also healing God's spoken words

Interpetation Written and Spoken by Reginald Taylor Jr

The Liturgist · 2025-11-08T15:41:30-0600

Amo2 said:
Ethics in Internet

Quotes below from link above, emphasis in quotes is mine.

It is important to note that since the time of this Papal document, the Popes have had private meetings with the owners, heads, or CEO's of all the major social media platforms. Many of which we have all witnessed exercising a great deal of censorship on their platforms. These of course only represent the censorship the public at large has noticed and therefore brought forward to be addressed.

Here we have an address from the Vatican intending to define the parameters and or narratives of communication on the internet. Which it had apparently already addressed regarding the media, and has continued to address to date regarding social media as well. Basically a call to regulate that which it has considered to deregulated. These regulations should be implemented in line with the principles of what the Vatican describes as the common good. So, who determines or defines what the common good is? Adolf Hitler’s twenty fifth point of his 25 Points of the Nazi Party was - Common Good Before Individual Good. Adolf and the Nazi’s are pretty much gone for now, so whose common good are we talking about exactly? Obviously, we are talking about the common good as defined by the Vatican and Popes. Who is the Vatican to be calling for these regulations by nations on a global scale?

It most certainly is not the voice of the people of the various nations via the representatives they have elected to convey and implement their political desires. The Vatican stands among and as another international globalist institution of unelected officials, who wish to impose their politics upon the various nations of this world with or without the consent of the people of these nations. Just like all the other international globalist institutions of unelected officials, desiring to do the same. The Vatican itself has stated and supports the implementation of the rule of certain of these international globalist institutions over all nations. All of which is to specifically bypass the will of the peoples of nations in favor of the rule of unelected elitist international globalist officials in cahoots with each other. Of which the Vatican itself is a major if not the most significant players. Being herself a monarchal leftover from the dark or middle ages, this is the form of authoritative government she most fully supports and has most often supported throughout her lengthy history. To create such a system on a global scale, would be to recreate the conditions under which the Vatican ruled with the kings of this earth for over a thousand years. Just a global version of the dark ages with the Vatican and unelected officials of international organizations ruling together over all. Rather than the dark ages version of the Vatican and unelected kings, queens, and royalty ruling together predominantly over all European nations.

Authoritative government and censorship walk hand in hand. We have already and do continue to witness attempts by globalist and or left leaning entities to censor speech that does not support and or contradicts their narratives. The most recent and appalling examples being demonstrated during the Covid-19 plandemic. As we continue to examine the topic of censorship, I intend to reveal the direct connection between the so called common good, and the same. The following post will be an article from the days of Hitler himself addressing the dangers of a supposed common good. After which we will continue to address the present Papal document under examination, followed by many other Papal documents defining “The common good”, and its connection to authoritarian government and censorship.

Are you seriously blaming the Roman Catholic Church for the censorship of certain left-leaning tech firms?

I would point out you have no evidence - not even circumstantial evidence, that the Roman church has conspired with these firms. The fact that the Pope has met with their leaders is immaterial - the Pope meets with a number of people, and different Popes have had different agendas. For example Pope Leo XIV is concerned about the dehumanizing uses of AI, as am I.

Obviously since chatGPT is about to allow users to generate erotica, which the RCC is opposed to, the Pope does not have much influence over the tech industry titans.

I really feel like this accusation, and your accusation of 120 million Roman Catholic caused fatalities in the Middle Ages, are off base in the extreme, and would like to know where you found them. Whoever is responsible for initially propagating these allegations should either bring forth real evidence or apologize to Roman Catholics everywhere, such as my pious Roman Catholic friends @chevyontheriver @Michie @Valletta @boughtwithaprice @RileyG and @Xeno.of.athens

The Liturgist · 2025-11-08T15:38:27-0600

Amo2 said:
We have direct testimony and teaching from our Lord Jesus Christ concerning the proper place of tradition in relation to the law and testimony of the word of God, that is to say holy scripture.

Mrk 7:1 Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem. 2 And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault. 3 For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders. 4 And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables. 5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands? 6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. 7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. 9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. 10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: 11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. 12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; 13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Tradition itself is subject to the law and testimony or word of God. Whatever traditions contradict the teachings of the law and testimony of holy scripture, are to be sacrificed by the believer, rather than the other way around.

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

We know our Lord was speaking of the Pharisaical traditions, and not Holy Tradition, for this reason - St. Paul expressly enjoins us to follow Holy Tradition in 1 Corinthians 11:2, 2 Thessalonians 2:15, and in the original Greek through the use of a word that means “traditioned” in Galatians 1:8-9.

Thus the abuse of Mark 7 as a condemnation of the Apostolic Tradition is simply eisegesis. If one reads the New Testament as a coherent whole, it is clear it endorses tradition, which was acknowledged by the early Protestants such as Martin Luther, Thomas Cranmer, John Wesley and even John Calvin - who did not dispense with tradition but merely sought to use Scripture to evaluate the traditions of the Roman Catholic Church at that time.

It would probably have been better to evaluate the Roman Catholic Church relative to the Orthodox churches since everything Luther was bothered by was not an issue in the Orthodox church; indeed the first proper Protestant church, the Unitas Fratrum in Moravia, under St. Jan Hus and St. Jerome of Prague, was an attempt to restore those things the Czechs and Slovaks had enjoyed under Orthodoxy - communion in both kinds and the use of a language (church Slavonic) which they could understand, even if that language was not the vernacular (for some Europeans likewise Latin was appropriate as a comprehensible liturgical language, particularly in Southern Europe, indeed Italians can understand some bits of Latin even today, particularly in Sardinia, and other Latin words such as Gratias are plainly translated into other languages such as Spanish, and indeed the Roman Church originally adopted Latin as a vernacular language, to be more accessible to the lower classes of Rome who could not speak Greek, not having access in their adolescence to a Rhaetor, the Roman equivalent of a private high school, which was out of budget for all except Patricians, Plebs of Equestrian stature and wealthy merchants such as Marcion, the heretical shipping magnate.

Multifavs · 2025-11-08T15:30:33-0600

I tried out 2D animation in Blender. It looks like a good tool, but I'm thinking I might just use SAI and my video editing software instead. As far as I can tell, it's hard to make frames in Blender where some things move and others don't, and the lineart is thicker than I want. On the other hand, my work looks messier in SAI and I'd have to save each frame separately...I have to decide which option is better overall, I guess.

BPPLEE · 2025-11-08T14:50:49-0600

Hans Blaster said:
I do know that a lot of people are interested in it because they want to order people around like tough guys.

If there is an agency that has earned total and complete disrespect it is ICE/BCP and it didn't start this year.

There are definitely people who have no business being in law enforcement but you are judging all of them by the actions of a few.
It's not about ordering people around

christianlloydteegardin · 2025-11-08T14:50:01-0600

I find that ambient and drone music help quiet the endless loops in my head (ADHD for you) and enables me to digest Scripture more easily.

Lukaris · 2025-11-08T14:21:31-0600

Christians should carefully read John 4:21-24, Romans 11:1-36 ( especially Romans 11:21-23)and beware of the current extreme, anti Israel sentiments that are emerging. Unbelievers should read and be hopefully converted.

Israel has a lot to answer for but it has enemies who will always try to not allow it to even exist.

timothyu · 2025-11-08T14:17:07-0600

I'm happy to have lived in an age of biblical enlightenment and have witnessed what it represents, the continual defeat of good by evil and the doom to come, but knowing ultimately that HIS Will will be done, not rebellious man's or elohim's who refuse to learn from history in their selfish rampage towards destruction.

Yarddog · 2025-11-08T14:09:46-0600

Valletta said:
The more monitors the better. We don't need a repeat of Michigan. Lara Trump recruited more than 100,000 poll watchers.

Crooked Trump monitors don't make an election better

peaceful-forest · 2025-11-08T14:04:31-0600

Discussion 1 was about Eve. This discussion will be about Adam, and at times Eve, because on certain points it was impossible to not to mention her.

I won't be talking about every single thing regarding Adam that is brought up in the book (there is a lot), so I picked certain things.

Before I begin, please remember that this is posted in the Egalitarian forum. If you are interested in participating in this discussion, please read the Statement of Purpose and make sure your post doesn't violate it. There were issues/problems that came up in Discussion 1 and I do not want that to happen again. It resulted in Moderator action. Thank you.

Read Genesis 2 and 3 in your Bible. I will post a link to the NIV translation, but you are welcome to read whichever translation you prefer.

Bible Gateway passage: Genesis 2 - New International Version

Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array. By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work. Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that...

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Bible Gateway passage: Genesis 3 - New International Version

The Fall - Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?” The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, but God did say, ‘You must not...

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Some points about Adam (and sometimes Eve) mentioned in "God's Word to Women":

Adam and Eve were in one body in the beginning; they were created at the same time but Adam was "formed" first, then Eve (Paragraphs 23, 24, 30)

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With the above point in mind, Eve was taken out of Adam's "side" not "rib" (Paragraphs 38, 39, 41, 42, 43)

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At one point in time, Adam was free to eat from the Tree of Life, but he chose not to (Paragraph 31)

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Adam was given certain responsibilities concerning the Garden of Eden; Adam did not fulfill his responsibilities since Satan entered the Garden (Paragraphs 31, 36, 37, 69)

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According to Bushnell and others, Adam's condition of "good" did not last; this problem led to Eve being formed and taken out of the side as a superior help (Paragraphs 31, 32, 33, 34, 35)

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What did you think of these points? Agree or disagree? Not sure? Do any of these statements contradict what you have been taught?

Dan Perez · 2025-11-08T13:53:18-0600

#1. AS. // HOS. is an. ADVERB

# 2 ALSO. // KAI. is a CONJUNCATION

# 3. IN. // EN. is a PREPOSITION

# 4 ALL. // PAS. is. in the DATIVE CASE. an. in. the PLURAL

# 5. HIS EPISTLES. //. EPISTOIE. inch DATIVE CASE in the PLURAL

# 6. SPEAKING. // LALEO. in the PRESENT TENSE. , in. the ACTIVE VOICE. is a PARTICIPLE. in the NOMINATIVE CASE a SINGULAR

# 7 IN. // EN. is. a PREPOSTION

# 8 THEM // AUTOS. is a PRESONAL POSSESSETIVE PRONOUN. in. the DATIVE CASE. in. the PLURAL

# 9 OF. // PERI. is a PREPOSTION

# 10 THESE. THINGS. // LOUTON. is a DEMONSTRATIVE PROMOUN. in. the GENITE CASE in. the NEUTER in. the PLURAL

# 11. IN. //. EN. , is a PREPOSTION

#12 WHICH. // HOS. is a RELATIVE PRONOUN. in. the DATIVE CASE. in. the PLURAL

# 13 ARE. //. ESTI. in. the PRESENT TENSE in. the INDICATIVE MOOD. in. the SINGULAR

# 14 SOME THINGS // ESTI in the PRESENT TENSE in. the INDICATIVE MOOD in v the SIGNULAR

# 15. HARD TO BE UNDER STOOD. //. DYSNOSTOS. in. the NOMINATIVE CASE , in. the PLURAL in. the NEUTER

# 16 WHICH. //. HOSis a RELATIVE PRONOUN. in a NOMINATIVE CASE. in. the PLURAL. is a NEUTER

# 17. THEY. THAT. // HO. is a DEFINITE ARTICLE. is a NOMINATIVE CASE. in. the PLURAL

# 18. ARE UNLEARNED. // AMATHES. in. the NOMINATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL

# 19 AND. // KAI. is a CONJUNCATION.

# 20 UNSTABLE // ASTENKTOS

# 21. WREST. // STREBL. in. the PRESENT TENSE. in the ACTIVE VOICE in the INDICATIVE MOOD in. the PLURAL

# 22 AS. //. HOS is an ADVERB

# 23. ALSO. // KAI is a CONJUNCATION

# 24 THE //. HO. is a DEFINITE ARTICLE. in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL

# 25 OTHER // LOIPOS. in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE in. the PLURAL

# 26. SCRIPTURES. //. GRAPHE. in. the ACCUSATIVE CASE. in. the PLURAL

# 27. UNTO. //. PROSis a PREPOSTION

# 28 THEIR // AUTOS is a PERSONAL POSSESSEITIVE PRONOUN. in. the GENITIVE CASE in. th PLURAL

#29 OWN //. DIOS. is a ACCUSATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR.

# 30 DESTRUCTION. // APOLEIA. in the ACCUSATIVE CASE in. the SINGULAR

as they. do also the rest of the SCRIPTURES

# A. This just shows that Peter was teaching THE LAW

# B And Peter did not a GRACE teacher as was Paul

# C And Peter was WARNING all that. there though that had the TRUTH and were also doing destruction to. the

rest of the. SCRIPTURES .and even. Peter sees the difference between LAW and GRACE !!
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essentialsaltes · 2025-11-08T13:38:57-0600

Two courts urge ICE to halt deportation of man wrongfully imprisoned for more than 40 years

Two different courts have called on immigration officials to halt deportation of a Pennsylvania man who spent more than 40 years in prison for a murder conviction that was recently overturned.

Subramanyam Vedam, 64, was brought to the United States by his parents when he was nine months old. Vedam is a legal permanent resident

He is currently being held in a short-term center in Alexandria, Louisiana, which is equipped with an airstrip for deportations.

He has maintained his innocence in the murder case throughout his time in prison and his conviction was overturned this year. He was released from state prison on 3 October only to be taken straight into immigration custody.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement is seeking to deport Vedam over his no contest plea to charges of LSD delivery, filed when he was about 20.

“Having a single conviction vacated will not stop ICE’s enforcement of the federal immigration law,” Tricia McLaughlin, assistant secretary for public affairs, said in an email.

essentialsaltes · 2025-11-08T13:34:05-0600

Editing federal employees’ emails to blame Democrats for shutdown violated their First Amendment rights, judge says

A federal judge ruled Friday that the Department of Education violated the First Amendment rights of some agency employees when it sent out-of-office messages on their behalf that blamed Democrats for the government shutdown.

The ruling from US District Judge Christopher Cooper is the latest court rebuke of controversial moves by the Trump administration during what has now become the longest shutdown in US history.

Cooper permanently barred the administration from “modifying furloughed employees’ out-of-office e-mail messages to include partisan speech” for all members of the union American Federation of Government Employees.

Amo2 · 2025-11-08T13:07:06-0600

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2PhiloVoid · 2025-11-08T13:03:17-0600

Michie said:
Open coffin and chaplain in a Dracula cape: Church receives hate comments for "Halloween service"

A Halloween service with an open coffin, artificial fog, and a chaplain in a Dracula cape: This pleased around 50 residents of Freising – and angered many others.

But the Latin Mass is the problem

Halloween and the Catholic Church, do they somehow go together? Yes, says Freising parish vicar Michael Korell, pointing to the Catholic origins of the evening before All Saints' Day and therefore advocating for a "Halloween service" on October 31 in the Mortuary chapel at St. George's Cemetery. With plenty of artificial fog, a semi-open coffin, and a touch of spooky atmosphere.

Under the Dracula cape, Chaplain Michael Korell wore his official vestments.

Continued below.

Catholic priest holds Halloween service dressed as Dracula - video

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.... That's interesting. :swoon:

I'm not sure that this form of 'seeker friendly' service really does the job or represents the appropriate awareness of sanctity. But that's just my comment in passing.

GoldenBoy89 · 2025-11-08T12:59:49-0600

Always in His Presence said:
Bringing peace into several cities

You have got to be kidding.

Delvianna · 2025-11-08T12:37:26-0600

Gregory Thompson said:
The book also says those who add to the words of the book will have plagues in it added to them, and those who take away from the words, the blessings will be taken away.

I'm not re-writing the bible into my own translation and then handing that out to the public... I'm trying to figure stuff out and I think you're misinterpreting that. Based on your own stance for this, because I think you're misinterpreting this verse, I could give you the same warning. See why you shouldn't do that? Going around telling everyone they'll have the 10 plagues of Egypt when they're trying to understand scripture, is going to put them off from even trying in the first place. You are literally fear-mongering to silence alternative interpretations which is seriously vile misuse of scripture.

Gregory Thompson said:
That's what the scripture verse says: Men not defiled by women.

We'll have to agree to disagree because there's symbolic queues for me to interpret this not literally.

Gregory Thompson said:
The mirror to the tribes is the disciples of the original 12 apostles.

All who believe fit under one of these.

That has nothing to do with the tribe list of Revelation though. OT sure, but not this one.

All in all, we will have to agree to disagree.

Ophiolite · 2025-11-08T12:35:11-0600

The Barbarian said:
Of course it's significant. But we have evidence of human structures earlier than that. I don't think anyone was surprised that humans would stay in a place that had all the resources they needed, or that they'd be making tools, possibly for trade. Interesting, but not a surprising find.

Environmental conditions changed dramtically over the time for which the site was occupied and tool use continued. A more reasonable expectation is that as the environment changed the population would move in order to remain in one where the conditions were ones they were familiar with. I understand such shifts are observed today and have been identified in the past. As such, describing this continuity as surprising seems a reasonable position, though I would prefer unexpected - it's less emotive.

christianlloydteegardin · 2025-11-08T12:32:41-0600

jas3 said:
Amen.
I don't see why that would be a problem, but both sides of the debate are pretty well hashed out in material you can find online. Just don't expect them to change their minds.
I found a church that still honors head covering in Orthodoxy. That's pretty far off from Plymouth Brethren, but you should know that there are other options outside of them.

For me, it's pretty clear that effectively all Christians up until 1960 or so weren't mistaken about what St. Paul meant, and that arguments about the passage being figurative or even based on an erroneous belief about hair being a reproductive organ are just modern post hoc rationalizations for a result of the feminist movement and a general loss of modesty in modern culture.

Took the words out of my mouth.

Dan Perez · 2025-11-08T12:29:05-0600

Aristarkos said:
That is what you think it says, but it doesn't. As long as you do not recognize there are different groups of believers in Scripture, you keep mixing them up which creates an unrecognizable mix. Paul speaks in his first seven letters to those — both Jews and Gentiles — who are blessed WITH Abraham in contrast to Israel who are blessed IN Abraham. These are the ones who through faith became sons of God.

Since only some of the Jews belonged to the heavenly group, Peter feared their judgment of those who were still child of God.

Aristakos

And have you ever read ACTS 28: 25-28 and EXPLAIN VERSES IN ISA 6:2

And then explain Isa. 6:5-13 AND who. is Isaiah. speaking too ??

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timothyu · 2025-11-08T12:24:04-0600

The Bible is an ongoing record of God's frustrations and His plan to deal with the rebellious who prefer an adversarial spirit to following His will as we learn to participate as aware workers in a creation that is necessarily built upon opposites including good and evil. It is still ongoing, even if the church insists they are the end all in instruction, even as they reject the Kingdom themselves for the adversarial world of man. We are at a stage now where we are personally given a chance to repent of man's and elohim's adversarial ways and join the Kingdom before the end of our personal age, showing our worthiness for the next step in creation. Manu may think they have applied but few understand the process. It started before the earth was formed and will continue when it is gone.

GodAndChocolateVanilla · 2025-11-08T12:08:33-0600

I'm at the Library again today!! ^w^

And Happy Sabbath Day!! ^w^ Thank You God!!

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