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HARK! · Sep 10, 2025

Stopped_lurking said:
t how does deportation vs prison+deportation lessen the risk for US citizens being victimized?

It leaves more prison space to hold more criminal aliens, while the Feds wait for returning jets to fly them out of here.

The Feds can't build prisons fast enough to hold them all. Whatever happened to all of those FEMA concentration camps?

Landon Caeli · Sep 10, 2025

Let's face it, we have a wealthy white president who *KILLED* 11 minorities..!! Something must be done!

Yarddog · Sep 10, 2025

Landon Caeli said:
So Donald Trump needs to stand trial for premeditated murder..?

That can't happen.

johnnypapa · Sep 10, 2025

Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of our death.
Amen

fhansen · Sep 10, 2025

Dan1988 said:
I've never come across a single verse in the Bible, where Jesus told anyone to adhere to any truth or truths. It would help if you qualified your statement with scripture, otherwise I'll assume you're merely expressing your own private view.

I don't place any value on private views, as there are literally billions of conflicting private views.

I agree, such as the private views of the Reformers. Private interpretation has run rampant ever since the doctrine of sola scriptura was invented especially.

By truth I mean to say that everything Jesus came to reveal was a testimony to the truth, a revelation of who God is and His will for man. So Jesus told us to believe in him, to be baptized, to love him and each other, to obey the commandments, to obey his commands, to remain in Him. He tells us in Matthew 5, in the beatitudes, where our hearts should be. Etc

Richard T · Sep 10, 2025

So far the outbreak of hostilities has been somewhat contained. But on the edges there have been various smaller events that certainly could widen. This is not just the Russian/Ukraine conflict, but Israel and her neighbors, China and its disputed territories. I used to think that only select nations would experience war or rumours of war. However, now it seems that almost no nation is immune. That nearly every country has some looming problem that has reared its head. And those not directly affected are still typically allies of one side or another.

to answer some of your questions, I do think there will be food shortages, with some nations more affected than others. This could not only stem from war but from disasters like earthquakes, hurricanes, drought, etc. I think too we might be on the verge of a financial crisis. Such a crisis could see some nations currencies devalue drastically. (No, I do not see the dollar becoming worthless overnight, but other nations with weaker economies certainly could suffer far more.

As to missionary work, having lived abroad at various times, nearly all missionaries know there are risks. Some face far more than others, and I would assume that as God as called that they are faithful. God too can warn and move someone out of harms way. Those are individual decisions that each has to make with God. But in general, I think missionaries are at peace with their circumstances or they could not be effective. Most are thinking more in terms of souls rather than wars or other interruptions.

You are right to point out repentance and change can occur through negative events. So while times can be rough the outcome can be tremendously favorable to those that trust in God.

This verse seems to be the most applicable to uncertain times.
Isaiah 26:3-4 (KJV)
3 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee.
4 Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength:

Note that the Greek word for perfect is shalom in the original text, and the Greek word for peace is shalom.
So it could be read, I will keep you in peace, peace, whose mind is stayed on thee.

durangodawood · Sep 10, 2025

FAITH-IN-HIM said:
I agree. In my experience, Europeans often identify American tourists not by their accent, but by their excessive politeness and eagerness to start conversations with strangers.

I would have thought it was the clunky fashion sense.

Brightfame52 · Sep 10, 2025

@ A New Dawn

Yes, salvation is according to His mercy but salvation isn’t mercy and mercy isn’t salvation.

I think you trading apples for oranges with this statement, and not able to see the truth setting before your eyes. Titus 3:5

5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Barnes writes:

But according to his mercy -

(1) It had its origin in mercy;

(2) It is by mere mercy or compassion, and not by justice;

(3) It is an expression of great mercy, and,

(4) It is now in fact conferred only by mercy.

Whatever we have done or can do, when we come to receive salvation from the hand of God, there is no other element which enters into it but mercy. It is not because our deeds deserve it; it is not because we have by repentance and faith wrought ourselves into such a state of mind that we can claim it; but, after all our tears, and sighs, and prayers, and good deeds, it is a mere favor. Even then God might justly withhold it if he chose, and no blame would be attached to him if he should suffer us to sink down to ruin.

He saved us - That is, he began that salvation in us which is to be completed in heaven. A man who is already renewed and pardoned may be spoken of as saved - for:

wing2000 · Sep 10, 2025

HARK! said:
The voters set a mandate to get these criminals out of our country; and now we need prison space to house the scofflaws that are attacking Federal agents for upholding the law..

Do the voters want deportees sent to countries half way around the world from their country of origin?

Stopped_lurking · Sep 10, 2025

HARK! said:
The voters set a mandate to get these criminals out of our country; and now we need prison space to house the scofflaws that are attacking Federal agents for upholding the law..

But how does deportation vs prison+deportation lessen the risk for US citizens being victimized? I guess the US even have prisoner exchange agreements with many countries, so they could be in prison in the country they are a citizen in.

HARK! · Sep 10, 2025

Stopped_lurking said:
The current administration will only be in power for slightly more than 3 years, so how does this answer my question? They might still be back considerably before they would have finished any prison time. My guess is the number of escapees from prison is still smaller than the number of border crossings.

The voters set a mandate to get these criminals out of our country; and now we need prison space to house the scofflaws that are attacking Federal agents for upholding the law..

o_mlly · Sep 10, 2025

Job 33:6 said:
Yea that's a fine way to put it. Every species begins with an individual. But they aren't technically a new species until the trait of an individual reaches normalcy in a sub population. As an individual, it's just an individual.

I assume by "trait" you mean not behavioral but anatomical. And, in most instances, this new anatomical trait occurs gradually in the fossil record. So, this anatomical difference is in degree and not in kind. That is micro-evolution with which no one disagrees.

When some unspecified frequency n of these micro-evolutionary anatomical change events appear in the population then evolutionists claim a macro-evolution event and name a new "species", a new kind of creature. But the "new" creature is not different in kind.

Job 33:6 said:
I guess we can do a math lesson.

Wrong lesson. You're using the wrong math. Bayesian-like statistical analysis does not apply to events disconnected from prior events. The probabliltiy of the next mutation from the same gene pool is disconnected from the probability of that gene pool's prior mutation (cp). You're welcome.

Job 33:6 said:
Scientists don't use the term "macro" evolution.

That's incorrect.

Macroevolution – Introductory Biology: Evolutionary and Ecological Perspectives

Evidence of Evolution The evidence for evolution is compelling and extensive. Looking at every level of organization in living systems, biologists see the signature of…

pressbooks.umn.edu

Macroevolution: Examples from the Primate World

What is macroevolution? Why is it important? How can macroevolutionary thinking help with interpreting patterns of primate evolution?

www.nature.com

Macroevolution describes evolutionary change that occurs at or above the species level.

Job 33:6 said:
But if there ever was a way to classify such a thing taxonomically, it could only be evolution of one species to another because that's the only way evolution occurs.

But it is fair to say, if evolution is true, then we should see new species arising, not merely being identified. And so it is, objectively, with respect to reproductively isolated populations as a product of mutation.

? You did not address the logical fallacy I presented, ie., affirming the consequent.

Job 33:6 said:
The requirement isn’t to prove reproductive isolation “forever,” but to recognize when, in practice, the barrier is real and irreversible.

? Claiming a situation is irreversible is to claim that that is so forever.

Job 33:6 said:
For example, chromosome duplication in plants creates instant genetic incompatibility: even when the two forms live in the same place at the same time, they cannot interbreed.

That claim seems again to be proven wrong with your own example of a macroevolution event, no?

Job 33:6 said:
Species concepts are practical tools, not prophecies about the infinite future. Of course, in theory, one might imagine a one-in-a-gazillion chance of elephants and giraffes producing offspring someday, but biology works with observable reality and realistic probabilities. When two populations cannot reproduce now, and all evidence suggests the barrier is stable, we treat them as separate species.

From the above, we can say that expressions regarding "species" as natural facts is incorrect. At best, "speciation" is man's speculation based on limited and fallible evidence and reason.

iluvatar5150 · Sep 10, 2025

rjs330 said:
Gee didnt matter did it. He was still a crazed violent criminal who was loose on the street. And a woman is dead because of it.

If you're so concerned about preventing crime, where is your side's plan for dealing with severe mental illness? What is your proposal for how that bogus phone call charge 9 months ago should have been treated? Where is your outrage in this other thread about a guy let off from a felony gun charge who would have been in jail had he been convicted of it?

Or is all of this merely a pretext for you guys to hypocritically complain about Dems being soft on crime?

Landon Caeli · Sep 10, 2025

So Donald Trump needs to stand trial for premeditated murder..?

Yarddog · Sep 10, 2025

Landon Caeli said:
In the first degree?

Intentional

Landon Caeli · Sep 10, 2025

Yarddog said:
It proves that launching missiles without attempting to stop the boats is murder.

In the first degree?

JosephZ · Sep 10, 2025

rambot said:
If the jobs too scary, quit.

Exactly, law enforcement officers, including ICE agents, serve the community. If someone is afraid of the community they serve, then law enforcement isn't the job for them.

Richard T · Sep 10, 2025

CerebralCherub said:
Hello all,

I am not Lutheran but I was reading about him with the family. You see, there is a town in England who has different martyrs listed as street names successively, and Martin Luther was one of them. I knew who he was, what he was famous for, but my family didn't know a lot about him so we read about him on Wikipedia.

If you get the time or inclination or, perhaps you already know the answer, could you read and let me know if you think Wikipedia is a fair representation of Martin Luther's life and work?

Martin Luther - Wikipedia

If not, is there somewhere else we can learn about him?

Thank you and God bless.

I have a course paper, I can share if there is a way I can get it to you.

Maria Billingsley · Sep 10, 2025

Carl Emerson said:
Our God judges, is jealous, hates sin, is terrible, destroys, gets angry, consumes like a fire, takes vengeance and is intolerant.
Presenting a soft view of God has lead to having a generation of believers that have little comprehension or experience of the “fear” of God.

Love is not " soft", it is the catalyst of His character. God's justice, jealousy, and anger are not at odds with His love, but are instead expressions of it. A truly loving and holy God must act against sin and injustice, as these are destructive forces. Therefore, God's "negative" attributes are necessary facets of His perfect character, ensuring that He is not only compassionate and forgiving but also righteous and just. The ultimate demonstration of this is the cross, where God's love and justice meet: His love provided a way for humanity to be reconciled to Him, and His justice was satisfied by Jesus's sacrifice for the sins of the world.

Here is the rest of the list:
* Slow to anger
* Holy
* Loving
* Just
* Faithful
* Righteous
* Merciful
* Gracious
* Sovereign
* Omnipotent
* Omniscient
* Omnipresent

Blessings

FredVB · Sep 10, 2025

AV1611VET said:
Astrid has been MIA since January 3, 2025.

Thanks for noticing and letting me know. She should have seen or yet see this response, clearly she did not know of those things by the dismissive way she spoke of 'evidence for any of it'. But others should see it too and they may still. I can still respond in forum threads I will see by not leaving her blocked by ignoring still.

Dan1988 · Sep 10, 2025

fhansen said:
So inheriting eternal life is different from being saved now??

Nobody suggested that inheriting eternal life is different from being saved now. Not sure where you got that notion, but it's false because they both mean the same thing

Nithavela · Sep 10, 2025

Tuur said:
Central; planning is too high stakes. It's all or nothing, and based on the assumption that those doing the planning have a clue. Teachers used to have view "Those who can, teach. Those who can't, go into administration." There is nothing so bad that central planning can't make worse.

Isn't the saying "those who can do, those who can't teach"?

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