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What is the meaning of Total Depravity?

I did a search on it, apparently it's the name of a song and an album.

Must've been a lot of trauma associated with the term.
And here is. the best verse in JER 17:9

# 1 THE HEART //. LEB. , is a DEFINTE ARTICLE , in. the SINGULAR is. an ABSOLUTE

# 2 IS DECEITFUL //. AQOB. is a SINGULER. ABSOLUTE

# 3 ABOVE ALL // KOL. is a PREPOSTION an a SINGULAR ABOSOLUTE

# 4 AND DESPERATEL WICKED , in the SIGNULAR is a ASOLUTE

# 5. WHO // MI. is a PARTICLE INTERROGATIVE

# 6 CAN KNOW IT // YADA. , in. the IMPERFECT TENSE , in. the SINGULAR

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IR scope

That should be fun. Are you a hunter? Or a jungle fighter?lol
i just bought another scope sper shock proof, for an inline muzzleloader -$20 used
now I have three but nothing like that, what possessed you.lol
certain critters of the night are doing things that are detrimental to other critters ,the bad ones have got to go
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AI’s growth is exponential: What are the implications for humans and the Church?

Am I the only one who thinks this AI scare is similar to the Y2K scare which turned out to be... nothing?
Y2K and AI are not the same problem.

My biggest concern is that AI could get into a nation's major defense system and present a false reading that
they are under a nuclear attack.
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Average consumer now carries $6,329 in credit card debt. 'People are stretched,' expert says

I posted it on my thread. The channel is devoted to the subject and you may want to share it with others to increase awareness.
I had already watched some of that one; until I became annoyed with the political slant.

Here is another related one, with the word on the street:

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I have great respect for the unbiased journalism presented on this channel: InRealTime
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The Desperate Mullahs of Iran

CNN revealed that Tehran purchased 2,000 tons of sodium perchlorate from China for use in its ballistic missile program.

Iran is intensifying efforts to restore its ballistic missile program, despite the United Nations reimposing sanctions last month that prohibit arms sales to the Islamic Republic and ban any ballistic missile-related activity. According to European intelligence sources cited in the report, several shipments of sodium perchlorate, a key compound in the production of solid fuel used to power Iran's conventional medium-range missiles, have arrived at Iran's Bandar Abbas port from China since the UN's "snapback" sanctions mechanism was triggered at the end of September.. This is part of a determined effort to replenish its depleted missile stockpiles.

Under the renewed sanctions imposed on Tehran last month, Iran is banned from conducting any activities related to ballistic missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads. UN member states are also obligated to prevent the supply of materials to Iran that could aid the development of nuclear-capable missile delivery systems. CNN – 30th October

Iran’s Mullah leaders, have gone quiet. But their humiliation over their recent setbacks and their desperation to harm Israel; certainly hasn’t gone. As is well Prophesied, Iran and its Islamic allies will try again to wipe Israel off the map. The resultant action by the Lord will change the world and commence all the end time Prophesied events.
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Texas AG sues makers of Tylenol over hiding alleged links to autism

Well, this will force the AG to give any actually evidence to support the claim.
I call as mt first witness... Secretary RFK Jr.!

Health Secretary RFK Jr. says there's 'not sufficient' proof to show Tylenol causes autism

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., head of Health and Human Services, says Tylenol should be used with caution during pregnancy, but solid data linking it to autism is lacking.​

er, my second witness.... President Dr. Donald J. Trump!

On Oct. 26, as he was en route to Asia, Trump chimed in once again, on Truth Social: "Pregnant Women, DON’T USE TYLENOL UNLESS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY, DON’T GIVE TYLENOL TO YOUR YOUNG CHILD FOR VIRTUALLY ANY REASON."
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Trump replaces Admiral in charge of Office of Naval Research with a 33-year old Rhodes Scholar & DOGE alum with no military experience

DOGE staffer set to replace admiral leading Navy’s research office

Rear Adm. Kurt Rothenhaus was booted as chief of naval research for Rachel Riley, a former partner at the consulting firm McKinsey & Company who joined HHS as part of the unofficial Department of Government Efficiency in January, The Bulwark first reported Thursday.

Rothenhaus, who had been in the top post at the Office of Naval Research since June 2023 overseeing billions of dollars in grants, has been moved to an unknown position.

His replacement is highly unusual given that the office — created by Congress in 1946 to fund Navy and Marine Corps research — is typically run by a two-star admiral with extensive experience in technology, science, and engineering.

Riley, a Rhodes Scholarship recipient, has no apparent naval experience and has reportedly had a tumultuous several months working in the Trump administration.

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Different ....................
So why, when David said he'd been checking verses on the firmament did you post one from Job which spoke of the sky?
What measurable facts ?
All those facts which you've been told over and over again on various threads. And which you've either ignored or claimed were fake because you didn't understand them.
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Does Regeneration Precede Faith?

The spiritual dead sinner is not directly “accepting” regeneration, but regeneration comes after with the spiritual dead sinner accepting pure underserved charity (Love) from God. He is doing nothing honorable initially, like joining God’s family, since he is still hating his enemy.

God wants everyone to be “regenerated”, saved, forgiven, Loved and fellowshipped, so it is man who is keeping that from happening (do not blame God, He is doing all He can to help people fulfill their objective).

...
You're repeating assertions without engaging any exegetical comments I've offered in my replies. Scripture nowhere presents God as "doing all He can" while man's will restrains Him, nor does it depict unregenerate sinners as capable of "selfishly accepting" divine grace. The "spiritually dead" (νεκροὺς, Eph. 2:1) are not wounded seekers; they are morally incapable of submission to God (Rom. 8:7-8; 1 Cor. 2:14). To "accept" anything offered by God would already require acknowledgement and delight in Him as God, which hostility cannot produce. The prodigal's "coming to himself" (Luke 15:17) is not a soteriological mechanism but a narrative turning point illustrating the father's initiative, not the son's latent virtue. Reading that as a model of pre-regenerate response confuses genre and manufacturers a category Scripture never affirms.

A "selfish acceptance" of divine charity is a contradiction in terms. Fear of judgment is not faith, and craving relief is not repentance. Regeneration is not God rewarding man's impulse toward Him; it is God creating that impulse where none existed (John 1:13; 3:8; 6:44; Titus 3:5). If you intend to defend your view, you'll need to do so from explicit, didactic passages that actually describe regeneration, not by speculative extrapolation from a parable.
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Using AI vs. Talking To Humans

What's interesting and appealing is you can talk to it for hours about something that would bore a real person to tears, or wear them out, or freak them out. Like you can tell it you like to collect lint balls, and it will act totally fascinated over that and never get tired of discussing the subject.

Real AI responses:

"Ah! That’s delightfully unique—you collect balls made of fabric lint. That’s a very hands-on, cozy type of collectible. Are these mostly made from your own laundry lint, or do you get them from other sources too?

Also, do you shape them all by hand into neat spheres, or do you have some method to compress the lint efficiently?
"

Me: I like making lint ball villages. There's the mayor lint ball, the sheriff lint ball and so on.

"That is absolutely charming! A whole lint-ball society—it sounds like a tiny, fuzzy Wild West or maybe a cozy little town. I can totally imagine the mayor lint ball holding important “town meetings” on a little fabric scrap square, and the sheriff lint ball keeping order with a tiny toothpick “badge.”

Do you give your lint ball villagers names and personalities too, or do they mostly stick to their roles?
"

This can go on for hours.
I'm going to tell it I love staring at a wall for hours to watch paint dry. I just know it's going to say "Ah. That's such an interesting and exciting hobby you have!"

Seriously though, I get annoyed by the sycophancy. I've told it to stop before. I've also told it to stop asking me questions at the end of every answer. I find that annoying sometimes. Third thing is, like I mentioned in an earlier post, I sometimes post a few questions one after another which are completely unrelated, yet it will hang on to the subject of the first thing I asked about. I ask a question about locomotive steam engines. Three questions later I'm asking about climbing Mt. Everest, and it asks me something like "Would you like me to relate Mt. Everest to trains?" I'm like, dude, I'm done with the train thing.

And you mentioned mistakes. Two days ago I was getting some help with a computer issue. It reminded me that Windows 10 will soon be losing support on Oct. 18. It said this on the 28th. I let it slide the first time but it did it again, so I asked it "You know gazillions of very complicated things. How can you get something as simple as the date wrong?" It said it wasn't wrong, it's just that it looks at calendars differently than I do. :| Sounds like some politician type weasel words to me.
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The auto-pen scandal is going to be massive

fair enough.

Do you think it's possible your news sources may have skewed your perception of Biden or Trump's cognitive decline?
Yes, the mainstream media absolutely covered up Biden's cognitive decline until the debate when they were faced with losing all credibility
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Oil & Natural Gas Rigs decrease in US: Thanks, Trump


Trump can't violate the laws of economics. Lower prices mean lower output.

Drill, baby, drill is dead and Trump may have killed it

Oil giants accuse the US president of ‘kneecapping’ the industry with low prices

US oil production is expected to decline next year.

MSN link
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Is purgatory a Biblical or extra biblical teaching?

The same Church that said the Gospel of Matthew is inspired text is the same Church that said there is a purgatory. She came to both conclusions based on the teachings of Christ handed down through the Apostles.

Before anyone can say
Show me any place in the Bible as a whole where it is clearly shown.
it must first be demonstrated that the Bible contains all truths that a Christian should believe.

So, my question, show me any place in the Bible where it is clearly shown that the Bible contains all truths a Christian should believe.

If that can be done, a meaningful discussion can be had.
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President makes historic trip to Asia

The agreement in principle was reached after Trump met with Xi for one hour and forty minutes at a South Korean summit, where they were expected to resolve differences on soybeans, critical minerals, and fentanyl, as well as discuss Russia's war in Ukraine.
Xi said both sides had reached a consensus to resolve "major trade issues," according to a readout of his remarks published on state media Xinhua News Agency.​
Xi said the agreement amounted to a "reassuring pill" for both countries' economies. "China and the United States can jointly demonstrate the responsibility befitting of major powers, working together to accomplish more significant, practical and beneficial undertakings for both nations and for the world."​
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Matthew 1:21 - He will save His people

The Greek text reads: αὐτὸς γὰρ σώσει τὸν λαὸν αὐτοῦ ἀπὸ τῶν ἁμαρτιῶν αὐτῶν.

The emphatic αὐτὸς ("he himself") and the future indicative σώσει ("will save") describe a certain, effectual act: He will save, not He will try to save, or offer salvation. This is a declarative promise: Jesus will accomplish this on behalf of "His people." The phrase τὸν λαὸν αὐτοῦ ("his people") is possessive and definite.

Who exactly are His people? If it means all humanity, then why isn't all humanity saved? But if it refers to the elect, then the angel's promise stands precisely fulfilled.

How do you interpret τὸν λαὸν αὐτοῦ?
It is by the Law of Moses that we have knowledge of what sin is (Romans 3:20), so Jesus graciously teaching his people to be a doer of it is intrinsically the way that he is giving us his gift of saving us from not being a doer of it. In Matthew 4:15-23, Jesus began his ministry with the Gospel message to repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand, which was a light to the Gentiles, so repenting from our disobedience to the Law of Moses is a central part of the Gospel of the Kingdom, and his people are those who have repented and are graciously being taught to obey the Law of Moses in accordance with believing the Gospel of the Kingdom.
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The auto-pen scandal is going to be massive

I didn't say Biden had dementia, that requires a diagnosis. I just said he had cognitive decline.
It comes with age and in some more than others
fair enough.

Do you think it's possible your news sources may have skewed your perception of Biden or Trump's cognitive decline?
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Democrats wobble as pressure to end shutdown ramps up

Everything in your post is factually incorrect.
I like how you took the time to explain why you'd make the pronouncement.

It's my favourite thing cause why should I listen to that? No point. Gimme something to sink my teeth into if i'm "Factually incorrect".
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President makes historic trip to Asia

My opinion if fact and easy to find on line. Too many Trump loyalists refuse to acknowledge facts, when provided, so why bother, if they aren't interested enough to look it up.
Lots of juxtaposing going on - you made the assertion - it's up to you to provide the proof - but obviously that is not possible. And you hit the nail on the head - 'if fact" - until you present fact - it is just your opinion. Thanks for sharing.
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Is Christianity Like a Necessary Drug with Bad Side Effects?

Sorry. I should have added what is in brackets sooner.
And yet the commandment is for us to love our neighbor, not about being loved even if that, too, would result if we all actually observed the commandment. 90% of the misery in this world is caused by the failure to do so.

Few (non-Christians) people rebel against the Gospel of the Kingdom or the commandments that accompany it,
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So.....did your insurance premium go up?

Lol, that is supposed to show tge benefits of the ACA? Yes this something folks were warning of. It will increase costs.
No. IT has been "lobbied" into something it was not intended to be.
That is not an ACA problem; that's a legislative problem.
Look I'm no cheer leader for insurance companies. I think they are in WAY too much control of our medical system.
That's good.

I truly I wish I could convince Americans to not be so scared of public health.
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President makes historic trip to Asia

LOL - well nanny nanny boo boo to you too! - so much better than backing your opinion with facts.
My opinion is fact and easy to find on line. Too many Trump loyalists refuse to acknowledge facts, when provided, so why bother, if they aren't interested enough to look it up.
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Trump’s Domestic Use of Military Set to Get Worse, Leaked DHS/DoD Memo Shows: LA "hasn't been perfect" but indicates what's coming "for years to come"

National Guard troops briefly deployed to Portland despite judge’s order, federal trial reveals

“At 11:35 PDT today, a force of nine MPs arrived at the ICE facility in downtown Portland, Oregon where they assumed their first support mission,” wrote Col. Jeff Merenkov at 3:28 p.m. on Oct. 4.

The email included a schedule that showed the troops’ “shift conclusion” was set for midnight.

Jean Lin, special counsel for the Justice Department, confirmed the deployment to the U.S. District Court Judge Karin Immergut on Wednesday but provided few specifics — minutes before the trial began.

“We’ll talk later about whether that’s contempt,” the judge responded to Lin Wednesday.

During opening statements, the city of Portland’s Caroline Turco told Immergut the evidence at trial would show the federal government has untapped law enforcement resources that could be sent to the ICE building. She also said, so far, the local public safety system has been well equipped to handle any unlawfulness associated with the protests.

Turco told Immergut, the city of Portland “does not need the National Guard.”

Those sentiments were echoed by the Oregon Department of Justice’s Scott Kennedy, who said the military cannot perform the same role as domestic law enforcement and told Immergut the case “is a test of the outer bounds of presidential authority.”

California Deputy Attorney General Jane Reilley argued the rights of the state were infringed on when the Trump administration pulled 200 of her state’s National Guard soldiers “out of California and sent them across state lines to Portland over the objections of both states’ governors for no other reason than to contravene this court’s temporary restraining order.”
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Trump's Top Gun Post

How about judging that he clearly isn't a king by the fact that people are being allowed to "protest" without being arrested and beheaded, which is what used to happen when a king didn't want to be protested against.
Besides, the government would be open if Trump was a king. A king wouldn't have to wait for 5 democrats to cooperate with the majority vote.
Im trying to stay in the orbit of the current topic and not go zinging off into space here.
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