DaisyDay said:

Yes, it is.

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Gee this sounds like schoolyard stuff.

DaisyDay said:

Wolff had unusual access to Trump with thousands of interview hours on tape as well as interviews with Epstein. His word is not proof, but it is evidence no matter how desperately you may deny it.

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All those thousands of interview hours and no released interview with Epstien saying Trump was with under 18 year old girls.

His words are just words. And as I pointed out, he never said Trump.was with topless under 18 year olds. No matter how much you want it to be true.

DaisyDay said:

Silly taunting: I know you are but what am I.

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Lol, getting to am I?

DaisyDay said:

That was not even an accusation but speculation; well, the second half is speculation. Even you, surely, aren't disputing the first half?

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I believe this whole conversation started when you accused Trump of being with topless under 18 year olds. And since then have been unable to show anything of the sort. Including the statement made by Wolff. You made an unproven accusation.

You said "Do you mean like the photos of him at Epstein's with topless young adolescents on his lap?"

Thats not speculation, thats an accusation and one you have been unable to prove. Even by your own source who never said that.

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Unless the exact phrase is found the meaning isn't there? No paraphrasing allowed!

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Unknown has a definition. It does NOT mean under 18 in any definition. And the word topless doesn't appear either. That is not a paraphrase that is a fabrication.

DaisyDay said:

Your emotions may not allow you to accept Michael Wolff as a source, but beyond "Nu-uh!" you've shown nothing to discredit him as a source.

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I didn't know anything about Wolff as a journalist. So I had no emotions tied to him. Still dont. But when I looked him up to see what he was all about I discovered that other journalists discovered not find him credible. Some do. That's why he is questionable. Which leads me to want more than just some vague statement from him and some flat out fabrications from you apart from what he actually said.

If yo want to live where murders happen. Then you need to moved to the Ms Delta, big cities have nothing on this area.

essentialsaltes said:

UK to recognize Palestinian state unless Israel relents and revives two-state solution​

"Today, as part of this process towards peace, I can confirm the U.K. will recognize the state of Palestine by the United Nations General Assembly in September, unless the Israeli government takes substantive steps to end the appalling situation in Gaza, agree to a ceasefire and commit to a long-term sustainable peace, reviving the prospect of a two-state solution," Starmer said at a news conference.

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So basically, bring everything back to how it was before October 7th?

FutureAndAHope said:

I don't know how all these various traditions fit together. But Calvin, hence Calvinism, is the one who penned that people are "predestined", meaning before creation, chosen, for either life or death.


Did we really "choose", we were born into this world with no "choice", the sinner or the damned, were they given a choice?

The "real God", does give a choice in this life. But Predestination takes away that choice, stating that a portion of mankind was always chosen to die, predestined to everlasting fire. Maybe you don't believe that, but that is the argument that I am fighting.

But also I don't believe God just "chooses" to save some, He gives His good will to all, and all can receive His grace, but our "daily choosing", determines if we will be saved.

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You should not be debating theology if you do not have a basic knowledge of Christian beliefs.

Michie said:

Don’t lie to her but it seems necessary to ask her things about items you bought she claimed she hated and then wants one. Ask her why that person was at the party when she said he would not be there. Tell her husband to stop sending you inappropriate content. Start saying no to the things she is asking you to do. It’s obvious she thinks she can run roughshod over you because you do not say anything or ask why. If someone see’s they can keep getting away with their bad behavior with certain people, those are the people they glom on to. I understand not wanting to hurt feelings but being honest and asking questions will surely solve your problems. She will start separating once you start demanding some accountability in the friendship.

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Thank you, Michie. I love it when you show up. I am always looking for your turtle pic. I did call her out on something she did lie about. I feel like I'm in a tumbleweed of this person's mess. It's just like here we go again over and over again.

UK to recognize Palestinian state unless Israel relents and revives two-state solution​

"Today, as part of this process towards peace, I can confirm the U.K. will recognize the state of Palestine by the United Nations General Assembly in September, unless the Israeli government takes substantive steps to end the appalling situation in Gaza, agree to a ceasefire and commit to a long-term sustainable peace, reviving the prospect of a two-state solution," Starmer said at a news conference.

Michie said:

Welcome to CF! I hope you find some interest and edification here.

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Thank you Michie. I am sure that the discussions here will be on an extremely interesting and encouraging level.

rjs330 said:

Sure I do. If its its baseless they dont know. Cause if they did know they could prove it.

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Just take a deep breath and realize you don't know and you are just throwing a tantrum.

NxNW said:

I thought mass shootings belonged in Texas?

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I'm not sure they belong anywhere, but as other people roasting Kirk have pointed out, Phoenix AZ (where he lives) has twice the murder rate of NYC.

In fact, in 2022 Manhattan had less than half the murder rate of Phoenix (five killed per 100,000 in Manhattan versus a tragic 13 in Phoenix, Maricopa County’s largest city). 

Hans Blaster said:

Here are a few basic reasons why no one else was charged:

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You know this how?

boughtwithaprice said:

Paul could have resisted and had the faith of the other Pharisees and sat by Beelzebub pretending to be Jesus I am made blind. He could not resist the facts of what happened to him, but the other Pharisees saw Jesus actually cast out a demon right in front of them, and they ascribed his power to Satan. Jesus had to school them and tell them Satan does not cast out Satan. Did they then repent? There is no scriptural evidence they did

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1 Cor 1:1

"Paul, called as an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God..."

John 1

as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

You know, I have even been to church all come birthday parties, or lets say just coffee and cake, did not even know the person but they got the biggest gift and they treated it with suspicion and like I was weird. When all I wanted was to show love. I have a big heart. I was like, but they are a christian I feel even deeper for a fellow believer. so it should not matter we don`t.. that is how I thought. I was wrong.

BCP1928 said:

Exactly my point. The Democrats need to dump their elitist wing and the culture war sex stuff. Let the Christian Right win the culture war--it will be a Pyrrhic victory,

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This is another mistake that is made far too often by the leftists. It's not a Christian Right win. There are millions of conservatives that are not Christians nor belong to the Christian right. Rhere are millions who are actually not right at all but more centrist who used to vote Democratic, but do not any longer. To relegate these issues to the Christian right is another mistake. And as long as the Democrats continue to think that, they will continue to lose.

Corey3518 said:

Hi, I've been going to church my whole life. In particular, I have stayed at the same church since I was a baby. What I've noticed now that I'm an adult is what I believe to be an, "attempt," to move the spirit in this church and many churches. A way of supernaturally calling on God whether it's his will or not. Too often do I feel lost in the delusion of the spirit then the actual holy spirit. Maybe, it's just me. Also, this idea of throwing your problems before God's feet. Great! But, then isn't there supposed to be a resolution? When there isn't too often I'm questioned for a lack of faith. Well... My God, Jesus Christ, actually solves problems and doesn't see ours as meaningless. I tire of these things at church. On a personal note my private life life is not well. I'm unhappy, which is likely what attributes to these aforementioned feelings. Yes, also, for any of you reading, I am too smart for my own good, or at the very least too smart for most people in this day and age, and I'm only 36. Anyway, have at thee. Any takers are welcome.

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His Holy Spirit dwells in the believer. A corporate call for His Holy Spirit may not be that fruitful as He only works in the converted and converts those who love Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Sounds like your congregation has a bit of Bethel Redding in it?
Blessings.

jmldn2 said:

1. May I express that I once was a "church going christian" for years and years and years.
2. I need no excuse to say I no longer attend a brick and mortar building called a "church." That does not mean I am "taking the easy way." Nothing about the Christian life is "easy."
3. As for work, I was a nursery worker in church, Sunday School Teacher, member of many Bible Studies, took my children every Sunday, Wednesday and brought them up in knowledge of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior. Jesus is concerned with our Hearts/Souls and not how regularly we "work."
4. The "narrow door" is not the church building but believing in the the Lord Jesus Christ, giving Him our total trust and living as best we can by following His Way. The Pharisees and other "workers, strict followers of the Law" thought they had it down pat too.
5. I did not stop going to that building because of "frustration, etc" but I stopped going to that building whenever my step daughter (my husband's only daughter) committed suicide and NOT ONE PASTOR, LAY PERSON, came to our door to give my husband one bit of help.

The "church" is not that building, whether or not it is a big building, little building but the "church" is the Body of Christ believers.

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I am so sorry hugs.
(maybe it is easier to show some level of care in small groups)
There should be teams in the churches that actively take a portion of money to save to give for people in emergencies, and people that visit people, people that notice and show care for vulnerable etc.
There should be counselours at least in case need be
I had a very interesting conversation today about things like this while I got my home broadband installed. The man was a catholic christian a black man and he explained if something happened, or if someone died etc thousands or whole community would show up or whole church each do what they could to help. This was common practice. They did not have much money, but they had community and help. Yet living in Uk still going on in the community. He was the most helpful kind polite man and me with my broken heart from how other "christians" treated me felt comfort. I could notice that because it came up. How that was what I longed for in a christian setting where you are not just left to yourself or ignored. Or worse. I`m bruised basically and lack trust because of it all and afraid too. Lonely. Same here abusive relationship and trouble with the persons mental health. No support no comfort. we talked about things. I was almost crying. So, I feel you.

I thought creationists might have done better instead of using a convicted criminal to make the case for creationism.

Year	Conviction	Counts / Charge Details	Sentence
2006‑07	Federal tax evasion & structuring	58 counts: payroll tax evasion, structuring, obstruction	10 years prison + $600K+ restitution
2015	Criminal contempt (linked to forfeiture)	1 contempt count	Later vacated; released in 2015
2021	Domestic violence	Assault on estranged wife	30 days jail, fine, restitution

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Of course I might be engaging in a terrible strawman attack against this individual who appears to be on a money making exercise out of creationism rather than a genuine crusader in spreading the word.

Activity / Source	Description	Financial Benefit	Possible Criminal Indicators
Creation Science Evangelism (CSE)	Hovind’s primary ministry founded in 1989 in Pensacola, FL. Operated as a tax-exempt religious entity.	Income from seminars, donations, merchandise	Operated without registering as a proper nonprofit; refused to withhold taxes or report employee wages.
Dinosaur Adventure Land (DAL)	A creationist theme park in Florida used to attract supporters and raise funds.	Paid entry, sales of merchandise	Property held in church trust to avoid taxes; used unpaid labor and circumvented building codes/zoning laws.
Speaking Engagements & DVDs	Extensive traveling ministry offering lectures, debates, and video sales.	Tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars	Received in cash, allegedly structured to avoid federal reporting laws; no income tax paid on proceeds.
Sale of Creationist Materials	Hovind sold books, DVDs, seminar recordings, and merchandise promoting creationism.	Revenue via CSE store and online sales	Business profits not reported; income often routed through personal or ministry accounts.
Unreported Wages to Employees	Paid workers in cash or as “love offerings” or “missionaries.”	Saved payroll tax obligations	Convicted for willfully failing to withhold/pay employment taxes (12 counts in 2006 conviction).
Structuring of Bank Withdrawals	Withdrew >$430,000 in increments under $10,000 to evade reporting requirements.	Avoided IRS scrutiny	Convicted of 45 counts of structuring transactions to evade federal reporting requirements.
Bankruptcy Abuse and Legal Obstruction	Filed false documents in bankruptcy, made threats, filed frivolous lawsuits to resist IRS actions.	Attempted to keep assets	Convicted of obstructing the IRS (2006), including destruction of records and legal harassment tactics.
Use of Church Trusts & Sham Entities	Transferred property to “trusts” named after God (e.g., “Trust One” to “Trust Nineteen”).	Shielded assets from seizure or taxation	Alleged misuse of religious trusts to hide assets; not formally charged on this count but cited in court filings.
Mailing Campaigns to Judges and Officials	Sent letters attacking court officials and promoting “sovereign citizen” theories.	No direct profit but legal strategy	Cited in contempt and obstruction hearings as intimidation and improper interference with judicial proceedings.
Continued Online Fundraising After Conviction	While in prison and afterward, supporters raised funds for legal defense and to restart ministry.	Ongoing donations	Not inherently illegal, but questions remain over donor transparency and tax filings of new ventures.

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According to the science nothing is created Ex Nihilio.

LizaMarie said:

This. Also, they have explicitly said no Jews will be allowed to live there, as well.

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Because nothing says Christian like excluding Jesus from living in your neighbourhood.

2025 and Christians are supporting people who want whites-only suburbs. Jesus wept.

I thought mass shootings belonged in Texas?

boughtwithaprice said:

Ok so you say there is one kind of belief but only those that really believe will produce works, which is the belief one kind or are there two?

Which verse says the fallen away will
be saved ? What I read in revelation says they will be vomitted out of God’s mouth and have there names blotted out of the book of life. Hebrews says if they fall away it is impossible to restore them to life as doing so crucifies the Lord afresh and brings Him to open shame

I agree that those with true belief will not be lost, but of those that fall away without repentance? I don’t see what you are taking about taught in scripture

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There is no such thing as really believe. Do you believe man went to the moon. Well a person either believes this or they do not, they do not really believe. When a person is convinced something is true they will believe.

In the case of God's free gift of Eternal Life, God's promises that anyone who believes in Jesus for Eternal Life, receives God's free gift of Eternal Life.

A person may fall away from their faith, but they can never fall away from the Eternal Life God gave them at the very moment of belief in Jesus.

This is a faithful saying:

For if we died with Him,
We shall also live with Him.
If we endure,
We shall also reign with Him.
If we deny Him,
He also will deny us.
If we are faithless,
He remains faithful;
He cannot deny Himself.

Phil G said:

And by the way, you didn’t write this yourself. You just copied and pasted stuff WITHOUT citing your source….as usual!

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It's all from the anti-Christian Eric (the idiot) Dubay, the same one @Apple Sky said she had sworn off.

A New Dawn said:

Besides, Calvinism is not Reformed theology, which is what the Westminster confession speaks to. Calvinism is a soteriologic belief system that is part of numerous religious traditions.

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I don't know how all these various traditions fit together. But Calvin, hence Calvinism, is the one who penned that people are "predestined", meaning before creation, chosen, for either life or death.

The reality is that man chose for himself, via Adam, which path he would take.

Man chose sin, and God, in his mercy, chose to save some. Who are you to decide that a just and merciful God does not have that Right?

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Did we really "choose", we were born into this world with no "choice", the sinner or the damned, were they given a choice?

The "real God", does give a choice in this life. But Predestination takes away that choice, stating that a portion of mankind was always chosen to die, predestined to everlasting fire. Maybe you don't believe that, but that is the argument that I am fighting.

But also I don't believe God just "chooses" to save some, He gives His good will to all, and all can receive His grace, but our "daily choosing", determines if we will be saved.

If its not hair it is the weight, if it is not that it is something else . See the point.
Love has nothing to do with it
Wether someone truly lives like a christian or not should be more important and truly are saved
I have always had long hair as that is what I feel best in but I could not access a hair dresser during covid and my hair tangles and filters, if I don`t trim regularly as a result I had to cut a lot and it became thinner than beforehand as scandinavian hair is typically fine thinner hair. More hair,but thinnner and silky. Can`t do extensions for same reasons, I would lose all I have. SO it is only wigs left. But that is not permanent solution however I have what you see here. My mother lost most hair when she gave birth. But she was also a smoker so hard to say. I have heard that rosemary oil should grow hair.
I think the post might be misdirected with another question behind as it doesn`t seem to me it is about wether long hair is feminine or not but how women have changed.

Hans Blaster said:

On the purely cynical and political side, do you not think that if the Democratic party apparatus thought they could go after Trump and destroy parts of his support base with Epstein, they would not have done so one year ago? Of course they would, but I suspect it wouldn't have worked. Part of the reason that Trump is losing contact with part of his "base" over this is because he put people who pushed conspiracies about Epstein into position of power where they would get to know things and once they did they all come out with "nothing to see here". The same people going after Trump/Bondi/Patel/Bongino would have just gone after the Dem/DeepState as their Pizzagate/QAnon/et seq. conspiracies about "prominent Dems as sex abuse of minors" had been pushing for 8 years and it would not have worked. Trump has been literally stirring this pot for years and then asked the flame stokers to join him in the pot while they relit the fire.

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That’s exactly what I think. That Biden’s DoJ combed through the files looking for something incriminating to pin on Trump, and found nothing.

I do not have a problem with the files not being released though some feel that this was a big promise that Trump made, not part of his platform, just something that was of general interest to his followers. But if you think that his not releasing them is creating a rift between him and them, you are wrong. Trump’s popularity according to polls, is stronger now than when he took office.

boughtwithaprice said:

It’s not a contradiction. God is love and He is a rewarder of those that love Him.

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Real Love is from God alone - works without the Love of Christ come to nothing.

His Love is irresistible to the chosen.