Latest activity

essentialsaltes · Aug 16, 2025

Apple Sky said:
I heard somewhere that if teachers in the US even mention the name 'Jesus' to their pupils they are sacked from their jobs, how true is this ?

This is not at all true.

Teachers are allowed (where appropriate in the curriculum in history or social studies or literature) to teach about religion, but they are forbidden from teaching religion (i.e. proselytizing or Sunday school).

Bibles are universally found in school libraries, and the Bible and Jesus are not forbidden from the classroom.

essentialsaltes · Aug 16, 2025

Erin is the first hurricane of the season, and is already a major hurricane. I was surprised how fast it blew up from tropical storm to Cat 4. Expected to reach Cat 5 later today. Fortunately, it looks like it will avoid direct hits on islands or the mainland.

childeye 2 · Aug 16, 2025

Valletta said:
In fact our first pope denied Our Lord three times.

Jesus said that all of them would be offended, "All ye shall be offended because of me this night: for it is written, I will smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered".

NxNW · Aug 16, 2025

Nithavela said:
I don't think people should get sick days unless they have a written doctor's notice that proves they are too sick to work.

It's not your boss's business what your medical situation is. Sick time, like that in the OP, is limited enough that there really isn't enough to abuse.

Plus, taking time off for preventative doctor visits, like a colonoscopy or breast exam, is totally legit, even if you're not sick.

Christsfreeservant · Aug 16, 2025

BibleBeliever1611 said:
The reason why we know we are going to heaven is because we are standing on the promises of God. God says you are going to heaven in the Bible, that means that you will go to heaven for sure. This is what we are standing on and this is why we sing the hymn. We are not standing on our own lifestyle to be good enough.

Login to view embedded media

The Scriptures do not teach that you are going to heaven just because you believe you are. They teach we must die to sin and obey God, in practice, or we will not have eternal life with God. Read the noted Scriptures and see what they teach. Read Luke 9:23-26 and Matthew 7:21-23. These are Jesus's words.

Postvieww · Aug 16, 2025

wing2000 said:
Well, show where it's being done. To date, the administration has only crowed about arrest and charging a hoagie thrower with a felony.

It's quite the performance.

If people would start listening to the actual residents of DC and how they welcome the additional crack down on crime they would have a different point of view. The problem here is the liberal politicians engaged in CYA , radical (in some cases) paid protesters, biased news reporting, and padded statistics . The fact is DC is near the top of the list in crime statistics even after the fake claimed improvement. The real everyday people with no political ax to grind do not believe crime is down in DC.

NxNW · Aug 16, 2025

Tropical Wilds said:
Most places I’ve worked have combined sick/personal time and don’t care if you’re sick or not.

Yeah, it's just PTO now.

comana · Aug 16, 2025

Oompa Loompa said:
Moving on. Do you think a feminists fighting for equality deserve to feel offended if a man doesnt give up his seat to her on the subway? A strangly simple question that no liberal seems capable of answering.

Several posts answer your question but you are dismissing them.

essentialsaltes · Aug 16, 2025

The 24 hours that Trump estimates for his time to end Russia's invasion of Ukraine has seemingly been extended again indefinitely.

Trump had promised 'severe consequences' to Putin if a ceasefire wasn't reached. Will anything happen?

Trump-Putin meeting live updates: Zelenskyy to travel to DC on Monday to meet with President Trump

President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin met in Alaska on Friday in their high-stakes summit seeking a ceasefire in the Russia-Ukraine war, but while Putin mentioned an "agreement" in the post-meeting news conference and Trump said "great progress" was made, there was no mention of a ceasefire.

--
Chronologically...

[before the meeting]

[Trump:] "I'd like to see a ceasefire. I wouldn't be thrilled if I didn't get it. But everyone says you're not going to get the ceasefire, it'll take place on the second meeting. The second meeting is going to be very, but I'm not going to be happy with that. So, we'll see what happens. I'm going to be, I won't be happy if I walk away without some form of a ceasefire. Now, I say this, and I've said it from the beginning, this is really setting the table today," Trump said in Friday's interview.

Russia boasts about red carpet treatment for Putin

"The Western media in a state that can be described as insanity bordering on complete madness, for three years, they have been reporting on Russia's isolation, but today they witnessed the red carpet that greeted the Russian President in the United States," the spokesperson said in a statement.

Both leaders allude to progress, but no specifics

Much remains unclear at this stage following the nearly three-hour meeting.
a ceasefire ... was a priority of Trump's for Friday's summit.

Trump had warned of 'severe consequences' if Putin did not agree to stop war

Days before the summit, Trump had threatened "severe consequences" against Russia if Putin did not agree to stop his war on Ukraine.

'Next time in Moscow,' Putin suggests

Akita Suggagaki · Aug 16, 2025

AV1611VET said:
According to the Bible, Andromeda was created in 4004 BC.

That is an assumption based on a very literal interpretation of Genesis. It is unnecessary.
I bring this up again because it seems that this kind if literal interpretation is the foundation of so many problems. Many of the repels would be rational believers .

Strong in Him · Aug 16, 2025

Apple Sky said:
As he is a liar, yes he would say this is the truth to deceive.

And as I have asked several times before - deceive them about what?
People do not believe in/reject God because of the shape of the earth. Otherwise, according to you, all flat earthers would believe in God

Apple Sky said:
Like I said there are billions who don't realize this.

And as I said, it's our job to tell them.
If God's children can't tell people about God, who can?

Apple Sky said:
And what better way to do it than to lead peple into a false reality.

If you are saying that the shape of the earth has the power to keep people from Jesus, i) you are mistaken, ii) that is the work of the Holy Spirit, and you are therefore saying the shape of the earth has more power than the Holy Spirit, and iii) you are mistaken.

If you are saying that the best way the devil can keep people from Jesus is by letting them believe that the earth is a certain shape, you need a lot more Christian teaching.
The devil tries to keep people from Jesus by telling them that they aren't interested in Religion", by telling them they can't trust the Bible, by saying that if God existed he would sort out the suffering in the world. He sometimes whispers, "you don't need to pray; you have too much else to do". or "you don't need to go to church; they're all sinners there and you know more than they do". (NB not going to church because of illness is NOT the same.) Or the devil might get people fixated on money, alcohol, having fun, living for themselves.
The shape of the earth wouldn't be on his list of best ways to keep people from Jesus, even if it went down to 1,000. It certainly is not the best way.

Apple Sky said:
I know.

Well if you really do know that it it Jesus who saves, reconciles us to God and gives eternal life, stop acting as though there is a great deception, led by the devil, which will end up being bad news for globe earthers.

There is no deception, no plot and no false reality.
The shape of the earth cannot stop war, save the economy, lower unemployment, provide food for people or anything else. It can't change life in this world and can't prevent us from enjoying life in the next. It cannot save us, condemn us or make us more Godlike.
It means nothing, zilch, nada.

Lukaris · Aug 16, 2025

Amo2 said:
Yes, the difference of course being that God appointed those you refer to above, while later appointments of the New Covenant devolved in to appointments or selection from an increasingly divided or factional "Christianity". Which could do no real harm when such remained separate from state enforcement, and or the gross error of looking upon any other mere man, as God or Christ themselves. Both of which happened over time, with increasing views being promulgated such as those we are discussing concerning certain Church Fathers, not enforcing but beginning to promote such ideas.

A good summary of the issue of increasing power among an increasing clergy unto apostasy, may be viewed at the following, in the first chapter ode to the work which may be examined in its entirety their as well.

History of the Reformation, vol. 1

Or a more specific address of the exaltation of the Bishopric itself at the following link. Where the entire work this chapter is from may be viewed as well.

The Great Empires of Prophecy, from Babylon to the Fall of Rome

I’ll try to look into further into what you are posting here. The clerical offices are Biblically founded how they proceeded after revelation is affected by our fallen humanity . I just want to clarify that I am posting in a way that is a counterpoint but not intended to be confrontational.

Side note about St. Ignatius of Antioch, I know in one of his letters he says that he does not speak as an apostle. I tend to think he knew that revelation had ceased when St. John said so in the book of Revelation.

durangodawood · Aug 16, 2025

Oompa Loompa said:
Moving on. Do you think a feminists fighting for equality deserve to feel offended if a man doesnt give up his seat to her on the subway? A strangly simple question that no liberal seems capable of answering.

No. A healthy strong woman can stand just as well as a healthy strong man.

That said, Im not going to get bent out of shape if people cling to some of these older cultural norms in day to day interactions with strangers, the ones which arent really harmful either way. Its just not that big of a deal. And sometimes its simply expressing consideration for others, which is nice - even if harmlessly misplaced.

What is a big deal is that law and custom doesnt shut out or discourage anyone from conducting their life as they see fit - so long as they arent harming others.

Tropical Wilds · Aug 16, 2025

Oompa Loompa said:
Moving on. Do you think a feminists fighting for equality deserve to feel offended if a man doesnt give up his seat to her on the subway? A strangly simple question that no liberal seems capable of answering.

I literally answered it. Or am I not liberal enough? Should I get my husband and have him answer it? Both because he’s a man but also because he is so liberal that there’s no denying he’s a liberal.

peter2 · Aug 16, 2025

So, you think there's no more else to do, and waiting ? What about work ?

Akita Suggagaki · Aug 16, 2025

Luke 17:L2021
Being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, he answered them, “The kingdom of God is not coming in ways that can be observed, nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or ‘There!’ for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.”

Mark 9:1
And he said to them, “Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power.”

BibleBeliever1611 · Aug 16, 2025

Christsfreeservant said:
The promise of salvation from sin and of eternal life with God is a conditional promise, as are all of God's promises, and the conditions for us to receive what is promised is that we must believe in Jesus with God-persuaded and God-gifted faith in the Lord, which is not of human flesh, and we must die with Christ to sin, not just once but daily, for sin must no longer be what we practice, and we must walk (in conduct, in practice) in obedience to our Lord and to his commands. This is not to say that we will never sin again (1 John 2:1-2) but that if sin is still what we practice, and not righteousness, and not obedience to God, that we will not inherit eternal life with God (see all the scripture references I supplied in the OP). So, the point in what I was saying is that there are people who have taken the message of the gospel, and they have altered it and twisted it to their own advantage so that they can continue living in sin. Thus, they have promised themselves eternal life with God based on a lie and not on the truth of the gospel, for God does not promise eternal life to those who will not obey him (Matthew 7:21-23).

The reason why we know we are going to heaven is because we are standing on the promises of God. God says you are going to heaven in the Bible, that means that you will go to heaven for sure. This is what we are standing on and this is why we sing the hymn. We are not standing on our own lifestyle to be good enough.

Login to view embedded media

Oompa Loompa · Aug 16, 2025

durangodawood said:
Its not "unsettling". Thats just you trying to blame your terrible argument on your imagined fragility of others.

The problem is that even if youre completely right about the physical fighting situation, its a circumstance that just doesnt translate to the other 99.99% of life: making meals, fixing things, leading people, arguing on the internet, etc etc.

Moving on. Do you think a feminists fighting for equality deserve to feel offended if a man doesnt give up his seat to her on the subway? A strangly simple question that no liberal seems capable of answering.

DaisyDay · Aug 16, 2025

Hentenza said:
Nah. You obviously missed our conversation.

No, I used the little back-reference arrows to see the whole thing albeit in reverse order.

Hentenza said:
Yep. And my whole point was that the files have probably been sanitized by now.

Do you have any idea how extensive the files are and that they include depositions and videos, not so easily sanitized? If Patel and Bondi had been able to sanitize the files, they would have released them to prove their point as that would satisfied the base.

durangodawood · Aug 16, 2025

This topic really interests me as a drummer.

For decades drum kit was imagined as just very masculine to the point that people thought it almost felt unnatural for women to be doing it. And while there were a few great woman drummers out there, most people thought them a novelty/curiosity more than musically serious. Almost like it was unseemly for women to demonstrate that much internal rhythm.

Cut to the last decade or so and the females are crushing it. At sxsw where we've showcased 3 years running, theres young bands from all over the world with gal drummers who are really good. An even when they dont show off a million skills theyre laying down punchy muscular rock parts that kick the songs with zero "gender penalty" or other imaginary problem.

Just an example in my face of reality outrunning doomed old attitudes.

orbiter · Aug 16, 2025

Peace in Christ.

We are to awake from our “sleep” and arise OUT of the dead ones (the man-based churches) and the Christ shall give us light. We then become children of light that will shine His light to this dark world.

We must come out from among the “dead” man-based churches where His light is not currently shining nor does the glory of God appear.

The world only sees darkness when they look at the man-based churches. They do not see His glory light shining in them and so the outside world vilifies us. God does not give His glory nor His praise to those who are serving "images"...their church handwritings of ordinances/dogmas (such as "statements of faith".) Isaiah 42:8 .

We are as the "dust" to the people of the outside world when they look at us instead of kings and priests.

The man-based churches are the places where they are exchanging His glory of the uncorruptible God into an "image" make like corruptible man's. The glory of God does not appear in any of them where they are serving their church handwritings of ordinances/dogmas....governing documents that are patterned like the nations of the outside world who have their founding, governing principles codified in their self-governing documents. The people of the outside world ...corruptible man...are like instinctual animals: birds, four-footed beasts and creeping things.

The "abomination of the desolation" is the church handwriting of ordinances that desolates the man-based churches. The glory of God has left it.

Rom 1:23-24 KJV
(23) And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

The man-based churches are "unclean" bodies that we are not to be attached to. We sin against our own mortal bodies when we are attached to them...becoming one body and one flesh with them. We dishonor our mortal bodies with them.

(24) Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

We must come out from among them and be separate and not be attached to the unclean man-based churches.

We can then become a light of the world….bringing salvation to the people of the outside world who will then see His light shining in us and come to Him. We can then effectively save a "great multitude" of the people of the outside world.

Eph 5:14
(14) Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from (OUT) the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.

In the man-based churches, we only bring forth wind as we do not work any “salvations” (plural) in the earth (of the people of the outside world.) Neither have the inhabitants of the world fallen before us in judgment.

The glory of God does not appear over us in the man-based churches...and so the people of the world are not saved as they do not see His light in us.

Isa 26:17-19
(17) Like as a woman with child, that draweth near the time of her delivery, is in pain, and crieth out in her pangs; so have we been in thy sight, O LORD.
(18) We have been with child, we have been in pain, we have as it were brought forth wind; we have not wrought any deliverance (SALVATIONS) in the earth; neither have the inhabitants of the world fallen.

We must come out from among the man-based churches…keeping His daily sacrifice. Together with His dead body (keeping His sacrifice) we shall arise. Our “dew” …our covering….is as the dew of “herbs”…that is, lights or illuminations. We shall then shine in this world as lights.

The word for “herbs” = ôrâh
Feminine of H216; luminousness, that is, (figuratively) prosperity; also a plant (as being bright): - herb light.

(19) Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs (orah =LIGHTS), and the earth shall cast out the dead.

When He delivers out of the man-based churches…out of the hand of those who enslaved us in their bondage of serving the sin via the keeping of their handwriting of church dogmas…we shall then no longer be prey to the nations around us.

We shall no longer bear their shame….the vilification, the taunting of us…any more.

The outside people of the world shall no longer hate us. We shall no longer be "dust" in their eyes. The earth then shall yield her increase towards us rather than yielding "thorns and thistles".

Eze 34:27-31 KJV
(27) And the tree of the field shall yield her fruit, and the earth shall yield her increase, and they shall be safe in their land, and shall know that I am the LORD, when I have broken the bands of their yoke, and delivered them out of the hand of those that served themselves of them.
(28) And they shall no more be a prey to the heathen, neither shall the beast of the land devour them; but they shall dwell safely, and none shall make them afraid.
(29) And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.
(30) Thus shall they know that I the LORD their God am with them, and that they, even the house of Israel, are my people, saith the Lord GOD.
(31) And ye my flock, the flock of my pasture, are men, and I am your God, saith the Lord GOD.

Instead of the outside nations hating us, they shall “run” unto us because of the LORD our God…and for the Holy One of Israel (the manifestation of the Lord Jesus in our mortal flesh, the revealing of the Son of man.) He glorifies us with His presence. When He appears, we appear with Him in glory towards those people of the outside world.

Isa 55:5 KJV
(5) Behold, thou shalt call a nation that thou knowest not, and nations that knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the LORD thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel; for he hath glorified thee.

We shall “go out”…go out from among the dead man-based churches…with joy and be led forth with peace. The people of the outside world shall then rejoice in our presence… our FACES… as we manifest His light of life to them.

Leaders of this world…the “mountains and the hills”…shall break forth in singing “before”…that is, the FACES..of you. ALL of the people of this world…all the “trees of the field” shall clap their hands.

Isa 55:12-13
(12) For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before (in the FACES) you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.

The people of the outside world will then no longer produce “thorns and thistles” towards us. They will no longer hate us for His name’s sake but instead will praise and glorify His name through us.

(13) Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree: and it shall be to the LORD for a name, for an everlasting sign that shall not be cut off.

With our “open face” to the people of the outside world, we show forth His glory to them. We reflect His glory to them as in a mirror.

2Co 3:18 KJV
(18) But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

But we must depart from the man-based churches in order to shine His glory light to the people of the outside world. We must go out from there. We must no longer be attached to the unclean. We must go out from the midst of them and be clean .

Isa 52:10-12 KJV
(10) The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.
(11) Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out from thence, touch no unclean thing; go ye out of the midst of her; be ye clean, that bear the vessels of the LORD.

The LORD will then go “before you”…that is, to the FACES of us…our open-to-the-world faces.

(12) For ye shall not go out with haste, nor go by flight: for the LORD will go before (to FACES) you; and the God of Israel will be your rereward.

We shall then give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God to the outside people of the world as we shall then reflect the FACE of Jesus Christ to them.

The earth became without form and void. The people of the outside world (the “earth”) have been “void” of this because we are not shining His glory light when we are sitting together with the unclean in the man-based “churches.” They do not see His light shining in the man-based churches…only darkness.

2Co 4:6-7 KJV
(6) For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
(7) But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

We must “arise” from out of the dead man-based churches and Christ shall give us light. Our light is come and the glory of the LORD arises upon us.

Isa 60:1-3 KJV
(1) Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee.

Then, the people of the outside world who are in deep darkness shall SEE His glory upon us….and they shall come to our light and kings to the “brightness of our rising.”
They are currently in deep darkness because the man-based churches are not shining His glory. They have no light...and so the earth (the people of the outside world) are in darkness. Darkness is upon the deep as they have no form of Christ to look at and they are void of the knowledge of the glory of God for His people are not void of His glory.

(2) For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.
(3) And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.

Like the “wise men”…the Magi, they will see the “star” in us which they saw in the “east”…which means “RISING.” They will come to His light shining from us to them…to the “brightness of our rising”. They will see the "star" and will rejoice with exceeding great joy. The mountains and hills will break forth in joy before us...in our faces.

Mat 2:9-11 KJV
(9) When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was.
(10) When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy.
(11) And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.

We shall shine as the “stars”….as we led them to righteousness.

Dan 12:2-3 KJV
(2) And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
(3) And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

Like the Magi, they will come bearing gifts and will show for the praises of the LORD.

Isa 60:5-8 KJV
(5) Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee.
(6) The multitude of camels shall cover thee, the dromedaries of Midian and Ephah; all they from Sheba shall come: they shall bring gold and incense; and they shall shew forth the praises of the LORD.
(7) All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar, and I will glorify the house of my glory.

They will “fly as a cloud”…..the Son of man comes upon the “clouds.”

(8) Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?

The Son of man….the revealing of Him through us to the outside world…comes upon the “clouds” of heaven….the people of the outside world who will SEE Him (through us) and believe and will “fly as a cloud” to us. They will come to us who have our citizenship in Heaven in this earth. The power is of God and not of us that will attract them to us. The Father will draw those who are saved of the nations to us…and they will bring their earthly glory with them.

Mat 24:30 KJV
(30) And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

For we are the “city on the hill” that will not be hid. We are the light of the world….and the glory and honor of the nations shall come into it.

Rev 21:23-26 KJV
(23) And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
(24) And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
(25) And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
(26) And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

Amo2 · Aug 16, 2025

Valletta said:
Those in Heaven are alive, not dead. Do not discount the power of God, God is capable of allowing those in Heaven to hear our prayers. The Bible tells us we are to pray for one another and the prayers of the saints in Heaven are spoken of in Revelation. The Bible is NOT the work of Satan:

Rev 8: 3-4 And another angel came and stood at the altar with a golden censer; and he was given much incense to mingle with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar before the throne; and the smoke of the incense rose with the prayers of the saints from the hand of the angel before God. RSVCE

Saints are not dead people in heaven canonized as such by someone here on earth. They were and are living breathing Christians, among those who were taken to heaven without seeing death, or part of those of special resurrections which the scriptures speak of. The prayers mentioned above might be the prayers of saints past or those still living, but certainly not of the dead. The dead do not pray or praise God.

Ecc 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. 7 Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works. 8 Let thy garments be always white; and let thy head lack no ointment. 9 Live joyfully with the wife whom thou lovest all the days of the life of thy vanity, which he hath given thee under the sun, all the days of thy vanity: for that is thy portion in this life, and in thy labour which thou takest under the sun. 10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.

Psa 146:1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise the LORD, O my soul. 2 While I live will I praise the LORD: I will sing praises unto my God while I have any being. 3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. 4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.

Psa 115:17 The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence.

Akita Suggagaki · Aug 16, 2025

RandyPNW said:
"Eschatological" is a standard recognition that it has to do with a future Kingdom that is not yet present. The idea that the Kingdom, yet to come, already impacts us presently, is also regularly understood. I don't see where the confusion is?

To me the confusion is a pie in the sky kingdom that undermines the importance of this life here and now.

Larniavc · Aug 16, 2025

comana said:
I think that last sentence is sarcasm.

Crikey! Hoist by my own pompous English petard!

Warden_of_the_Storm · Aug 16, 2025

Larniavc said:
Silly goose! The word you should use is ‘understand’.

I'm inclined to say it's both.

Latest activity

Latest activity

Trump-Putin meeting live updates: Zelenskyy to travel to DC on Monday to meet with President Trump​

[before the meeting]​

Russia boasts about red carpet treatment for Putin​

Both leaders allude to progress, but no specifics​

Trump had warned of 'severe consequences' if Putin did not agree to stop war​

'Next time in Moscow,' Putin suggests​

Filter

Forum statistics

Share this page

Trump-Putin meeting live updates: Zelenskyy to travel to DC on Monday to meet with President Trump

[before the meeting]

Russia boasts about red carpet treatment for Putin

Both leaders allude to progress, but no specifics

Trump had warned of 'severe consequences' if Putin did not agree to stop war

'Next time in Moscow,' Putin suggests