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New belief among teenagers. What do you think?

Call what was there anything you wish, according to science something must have been there. We call what must have been there God, and we have an idea of God which may be different than others. Yet something was there according to science. It's just a matter of debate as to what was there.
There seems a disconnect in your argument. Yes, the provisional conclusion is that something preceded the Big Bang (on the presumption that the Big Bang is the correct explanation of observations to date), but nothing suggests that this something was a conscious entity of immense power, certainly not one who took a direct interest in some fleeting lifeforms, circling a mediocre star in one of many billions of galaxies. Reflecting on my beliefs as a Christian the suggestion that the material/energy something that may have preceded the Big Bang was somehow God, rather than material created by God strikes me as ludicrous.
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Does God want men to choose easy options ?

I think he meant it as a way of protection, not sin less. He was talking about also how evil can use our weaknesses against us
Actually, my own experience of "purity" doesn't match with what your exorcist said:

This is why i spoke with this metaphor of the piece of wood on the seashore, like a hope for no longer being pulled back toward the ocean (the sinning).

Indeed, when i succeed in making myself purer, i have to face more agressive temptations
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Two arrested after incendiary device found under local Fox TV news van in Utah

Proof that people really DO want a civil war. SMH
Some people. This sentiment seems to ebb and flow with the times.
They also have middle eastern names, so, lots of fuel for segments of the right.
Oh goody. At the season has passed so it won't be a long, hot summer as so many before have been.
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Trump says suspect in custody in killing of Charlie Kirk

He did have a brief dinner with Trump at Mar-a-Lago with Kanye in 2022. He's not super well known, but well known enough to be able to score a dinner with a former President/Presidential candidate at the time. Source.
I remember that.

Im trying to think how it could come to pass that any of my friends would bring their neo nazi pals over to my house as guests. It would require me having some rather sketchy friends.
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State Judge dismisses two top charges against Luigi Mangione in UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting

I wouldn't read too much into that. NY apparently defines its flavors of murder somewhat differently than other states. For many of us, our concept of "murder 1" just means that it was deliberate and premeditated. In NY, it has to be deliberate and premeditated AS WELL as meet one of a number of other criteria including: the target being a public servant or official; the murder was part of a larger conspiracy; the murder was intended to be an act of terrorism; etc.


It sounds like the state failed to show that this was anything other than "normal" premeditated murder which, in NY, is classified as murder 2.
Yes, it seems as though each state has its own rankings of murder and such.
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Eastern Orthodox Leader Is On A US Visit To Meet With Trump And Receive Award For Environmental Work

Maybe an attempt to get some kind of perceived influenced with a participation trophy? It's hard to say. Certainly from a western pespective, it looks a bit ridiculous to give Trump an award, but maybe there's a deeper logic.
You obviously did not read the article, nor the title of this thread. Otherwise you would have know that Trump was giving the award, not receiving it.
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Kathy Hochul endorses Zohran Mamdani’s bid for mayor

I can't speak for the other poster, but I assume by "questioning", they were referring to the accusatory tone type of "questioning" and not mere inquiry.

In a sense that, when police shootings occur, it's often a case where everyone assumes the worst possible motive, and starts disseminating skewed versions of the story.

The Michael Brown Ferguson story of 2014 would be a good example of that. It started a whole wave of "hands up don't shoot" protests and people demanding the officer be fired and insisting that it was a case what warranted a bigger national conversation about "re-thinking how we do law enforcement"

The only problem with that whole thing:

On March 4, 2015, the Department of Justice, headed by President Obama appointment Eric Holder, released their report of the investigation into the events. President Obama said of the investigation that he had "complete confidence and [stands] fully behind the Justice Department...” This report found that physical and forensic evidence contradicted witnesses who claimed that Brown had his hands up when Wilson shot him. It also stated that witnesses whose testimony aligned with the physical and forensic evidence never "perceived Brown to be attempting to surrender at any point when Wilson fired upon him." The report concluded there was no justification for a prosecution of Officer Wilson.


Perhaps. And that is a nuanced stance I can support. But that was not how the post in question came across to me.
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Kathy Hochul endorses Zohran Mamdani’s bid for mayor

It's a not a reciprocal backup situation.

Of course not.
The point is, it's a more efficient use of finite resources to divert police to situations that require their intervention than sending the jack-of-trades to address a mental health issue.
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It Backfired - Huge Surge in New TPUSA Chapters

Most of them at some level, though none are exclusive. This article covers a bit of it:

Charlie Kirk suspect spoke the language of the far-Right
Ridiculous article. The first thing mentioned is a mistake or a lie. The slav squat did not come from Pepe. The squat predates Pepe. The rest of the stuff is not worth addressing as it amounts to saying "The shooter sometimes eats eggs for breakfast. GROYPERS DO THAT TOO!!!"

Fuentes is probably scared.
He was probably scared before this happened. He's already had someone try to kill him and several incidents of weirdos showing up at his residence since he got doxed.
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White men...u ok?

It seems like there are a LOT of instances of racialized threats and calls to violence.


It was a white guy who shot him. Super white.
Why are they fighting back and against whom? They don't even know if they can be angry at a leftist about this yet.

Edit:
Here's one
“White men fight back” Protests erupt in Huntington Beach in wake of Charlie Kirk murder - BeachGrit

Other examples exist.

Are we to believe there isn't racism going on here?


Edited for clarity
My husband, a white man, says “choose the bear.”
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Trump says suspect in custody in killing of Charlie Kirk

One of those super far right creeps that many near right people keep "accidentally" bumping into.
He did have a brief dinner with Trump at Mar-a-Lago with Kanye in 2022. He's not super well known, but well known enough to be able to score a dinner with a former President/Presidential candidate at the time. Source.
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White men...u ok?

No, he said disparaging things against the DEI hiring of people only because they're black rather than because they're qualified.

No, he's said disparaging things about black people, too. Coates cites some examples here:
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State Judge dismisses two top charges against Luigi Mangione in UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting


Man accused in killing of Brian Thompson will not face state charges of first- and second-degree murder but will still face other charges

Luigi Mangione scored a major legal victory on Tuesday with a judge dismissing the two top state charges against him: first-degree murder and second-degree murder, both of which prosecutors had argued were terrorism crimes.

Mangione still faces an additional second-degree murder charge, as well as a federal murder charge, in the killing of United HealthCare executive Brian Thompson last December.

“Counts 1 and 2, charging defendant with Murder in the First Degree (in furtherance of an act of terrorism) and Murder in the Second Degree as a Crime of Terrorism, are dismissed as legally insufficient,” Carro wrote. “The People presented legally sufficient evidence of all other counts, including Murder in the Second Degree (intentional).”

Mangione also faces federal charges for allegedly gunning down Thompson outside a hotel, and weapons possession counts.
I wouldn't read too much into that. NY apparently defines its flavors of murder somewhat differently than other states. For many of us, our concept of "murder 1" just means that it was deliberate and premeditated. In NY, it has to be deliberate and premeditated AS WELL as meet one of a number of other criteria including: the target being a public servant or official; the murder was part of a larger conspiracy; the murder was intended to be an act of terrorism; etc.


It sounds like the state failed to show that this was anything other than "normal" premeditated murder which, in NY, is classified as murder 2.
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Trump says suspect in custody in killing of Charlie Kirk

What the heck is a groyper?

I know I can look it up, but I want to announce to everyone that I have no idea what this thing is.
The Groypers, sometimes called the Groyper Army, are a group of alt-right, white nationalist, and Christian nationalist[4] activists led by Nick Fuentes. Groypers are a loosely defined group of Fuentes's followers and fans.[5][6] They are named after a cartoon amphibian named "Groyper", a variant of the Internet meme Pepe the Frog.


Don’t usually use wiki but I’ll do for this.
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