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Larniavc · Thursday at 11:15 AM

Always in His Presence said:
ah, no...

He is the last in a list - example -

this is from 2023

Amanda Peper, a scheduler for Senator Katie Britt (R-AL), was robbed at gunpoint in October 2023 while walking to her building about a mile from the Capitol

Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-TX) was carjacked by three armed attackers in the Navy Yard neighborhood, less than two miles from the Capitol. He was not harmed

A staffer for Rep. Brad Finstad (R-MN) was attacked at gunpoint near his home in D.C. after returning from the congressional baseball game. The staffer sustained minor injuries

A staff member for Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) was brutally attacked with a knife in broad daylight in March 2023. The victim suffered life-threatening injuries, and a suspect was arrested

Rep. Angie Craig (D-MN) was assaulted in the elevator of her D.C. apartment building in February 2023. She was punched and grabbed by the attacker, who was later arrested and pleaded guilty

In a congressional hearing, Chairman Bryan Steil mentioned that two staff members were mugged at gunpoint near Capitol Hill in 2023, sharing their experiences to highlight the growing threat of violent crime

Here is from 2024:

WASHINGTON - Chairman Bryan Steil (WI-01) opened today's Full Committee Hearing titled, “Safety on Capitol Hill: DC Crime’s Impact on Congressional Operations and Visitors.”

DC crime is out of control.

Anyone who lives in DC or visits DC has seen the impact weak crime policies have on public safety.
In recent years, the DC City Council has taken a variety of steps that have weakened the city’s crime laws requiring Congress to step in.

In 2020, the DC Council cut $15 million from the Metropolitan Police Department budget. Simultaneously, the Council repeatedly passed temporary emergency policies that restricted police officers’ authority and changed the DC criminal code.

For the first time in 30 years, Congress had to act and nullify a DC law because it was so ridiculous.

Crime in DC is so bad that President Biden was shamed into reversing his veto threat.

Months later the House and Senate had to act again.

We passed another resolution to overturn the antipolice polices implemented by the DC Council.

Unfortunately, President Biden vetoed this bill.

In 2025:

The former DOGE employee and

Eric Tarpinian-Jachym, a 21-year-old Capitol Hill intern, was tragically killed in a violent incident. His death was cited in official White House crime statistics as an example of how crime affects government workers

This isn't a one time thing by any means - it just isn't being ignored anymore. And to correct the propaganda line - The President is NOT militarizing the city, he brought in National Guard member to Assist a Police force that is 700 officers short of what they need.

It’s really just America being the dreadfully dangerous place it’s always been. With it’s problems of guns, drugs and mental health problems it has been able to do nothing about.

Some things just are.

WordSword · Thursday at 11:14 AM

Reluctant Theologian said:
When Erasmus would have had the manuscripts discovered after his time at his disposal he would have based his Greek Text primarily on those I'm sure.

Hi RT, and really appreciate your replies. Many do not realize Erasmus had access to the Vaticanus but referred to it very little: "Erasmus did have access to and used readings from the Codex Vaticanus. While he initially focused on producing a fresh Greek text for his New Testament, he later engaged with the Vaticanus through correspondence and received specific readings from it. Some scholars even believe he had access to the manuscript itself during his time in Rome." -Google AI

"Erasmus did not use Codex Vaticanus extensively in his Greek New Testament; instead, he had contact with it through correspondence, receiving a transcript of some verses from it. Erasmus classified the Vatican text as a "back-translation" of the Latin Vulgate, which he considered inferior to the Greek manuscripts he used for his editions, and he rejected its distinctive readings." -Google AI

Reluctant Theologian said:
'Majority used' text does not mean it's more authentic than a minority-used text that is proven to be much older. Bible scholars deal with these issues quite well. The current Nestle-Aland Greek Text reflects scholarly results, not a theological agenda. But it seems you don't like those results because it may conflict with your beliefs or preferences? I'm just asking ..

I can't see God going 3500 years with the traditional Bibles and then suddenly changing us to these modern versions. Some say they are so the same Bibles that no doctrines are affected; and they are much affected, there are so many passages omitted and many transposed and interpolated that there cannot be a possibility of any of them (they all use the same copies) containing the entire Word of God (Mat 4:4).

Reluctant Theologian said:
The fact that a particular text has been used for 400-500 years doesn't say anything about it's reliability or God's desire for that. The Latin Vulgate was used for more than a thousand years as the standard text in the Church - you think that's proof of its reliability or God's standard for a translation?

The manuscripts that parallel one another (5000 manuscripts of the Majority Text) are the only ones used by the scribes, and abandoned the 4 corrupt texts of the Western Text (Alexandrian Text-type); and is why they did not wear out like the traditional text.

Benaiah468 · Thursday at 11:11 AM

Benaiah468 said:
The ICJ has not found evidence to support the claim of genocidal intent. It did acknowledge that Palestinians have a plausible right to be protected from genocide and ordered Israel to prevent and punish incitement to genocide. However, the court did not rule that Israel was committing genocide, nor did it order a halt to military operations.

The perpetrator-victim reversal of the ICC.

The chief prosecutor of the ICC turns a massacre of Israeli soldiers into an Israeli “crime” against "Palestinian" civilians.

In a video message in which Khan announced the request for arrest warrants against the two Israeli politicians Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and former Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant in May 2024, the ICC chief prosecutor listed a series of alleged crimes against humanity that had been committed

"as part of a widespread and systematic attack on the Palestinian civilian population."

Among Khan's allegations was

"the complete closure of the three border crossings at Rafah, Kerem Shalom, and Erez from Oct 8, 2023, for an extended period of time."

Let's leave aside the first two border crossings mentioned (the one in Rafah was not even under Israeli control until Khan's appearance in May 2024, but under Egyptian control) and focus on the third, the Erez border crossing.

This was indeed closed for a long time, but for a reason that was as simple as it was cruel. The Times of Israel summarized the findings of the Israeli Defense Forces' investigation into the events at the crossing:

On the morning of Oct 7, 2023, some 120 Hamas-led terrorists stormed into the Erez border checkpoint with the Gaza Strip and an adjacent military base in two waves. The troops stationed there were unable to defend the facility, and it quickly fell to the terrorists, who killed nine soldiers and abducted three others... The checkpoint was largely destroyed by the Hamas terror group during its Oct 7 onslaught,...

Journalist Douglas Murray describes the events of that terrible day in his highly readable book On Democracies and Death Cults. Israel, Hamas and the Future of the West as follows:

The border crossing was the place where Gazans with work permits for Israel crossed the border every day. And it was the place where Palestinians crossed the border in search of medical help that they could not get in Gaza. (...)

On the morning of Oct 7, Hamas invaded Israel at about sixty different points along the border. However, the capture of the Erez border crossing was one of their greatest successes.

Videos posted by the Qassam Brigades (of Hamas) on their Telegram channels that day showed that the terrorists had used an explosive device to blow a significant breach in the border crossing. They then overpowered the soldiers stationed there in a firefight. Even weeks later, the buildings at the border crossing were still littered with broken glass and other traces of intense fighting. Many rooms showed signs of explosions on the walls, floors, and ceilings, indicating that hand grenades had been thrown into them. (...)

Most of the Israeli soldiers and civilian security forces on duty that morning were killed in the fighting, while others were arrested on camera and taken to the Gaza Strip.

No wonder that the border crossing remained closed for months after this attack and the devastation it caused.

And what did the ICC's chief prosecutor do?

He made no mention of the deadly attack by Hamas terrorists on the border crossing, but instead declared the resulting temporary closure to be part of a

"systematic attack on the "Palestinian" civilian population"

He thus lied about the massacre committed against Israelis at the Erez crossing on the morning of Oct 7, 2023, calling it an

"Israeli crime against humanity."

This pattern, in which Hamas' crimes are completely ignored, but Israeli responses to them are portrayed as "crimes" against the "Palestinians", this complete reversal of perpetrator and victim, is representative of the way in which Khan, the United Nations, formerly respected human rights organizations such as Amnesty International, and large sections of the media and politics have supported Hamas' war against Israel over the past two years; not with machine guns and rockets, but with their actions in courts, media editorial offices, and Western cabinet tables.

wing2000 · Thursday at 11:09 AM

Always in His Presence said:
Because this thread is not about red states now - is it?

The thread is exploiting a single crime in Washington D.C. As tragic as the event was, it's an every day reality in cities across our country...no matter their red or blue status.

Always in His Presence said:
uh huh.....

Constitutional authority is now un-American?

The writers of our Consitution, having seen the abuses of an English king, were quite wary of establishing a standing army that could be used by future leaders against the citizens. Their caution was warranted as today, we see a president deploying the National Guard without any justification.

Is this the America you want? Museums, subways and street corners maned by soldiers wearing combat fatigues?

com7fy8 · Thursday at 11:09 AM

Tuur said:
uncomfortable

This could be all you need to know.

I have times when I get giddy about some thing to write for the whole world to see. But it can be me praising what I can write, hoping for the attention and a name for myself.

RileyG said:
I wouldn’t know what the afterlife is like, because I’m not dead, yet.

Well, we can be sampling it . . . as much as we are living in God's love now.

"Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us." (Romans 5:5)

The Holy Spirit is Heaven's Spirit, and the love of God is Heaven's love. So, as much as we share this with God now and live in this love, we already are experiencing some sample of ***h~o~w*** Heaven is.

Right now, then, already we each can be getting a sample of how we will be after we die . . . because of how we have been becoming here on earth >

"Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life." (Galatians 6:7-8)

Here on earth we have been sowing, inside ourselves, and already we are now reaping emotionally according to what we have been investing in. The seed gets sown, then the young plant grows for a while, and then there is the harvest. So, we are sampling what we have planted, though the resurrection of the dead has not harvested us in the full state that we then will be in.

So, yes, we have things we need to get rid of . . . not at all to keep living in it and growing it!!!!

"Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice." (Ephesians 4:31)

God is the One almighty to get rid of that anti-love, anti-Heaven stuff, and to grow us in Jesus instead >

"And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you." (Ephesians 4:32)

And reap this.

truthuprootsevil · Thursday at 11:06 AM

Jamdoc said:
The "last trumpet" is not a reference to Revelation, which had not been written and would not be written for decades after Paul wrote to the Corinthians. Paul wouldn't be communicating to the Corinthians referencing a book that wouldn't be written for over 30 years yet.

Rather, the "last trumpet" is a reference to Jesus' Olivet Discourse

Who blows the trumpet there?
Jesus

and that (and 1 Thessalonians 4's passage as well) are referencing this:

Zechariah 9

The Lord seen in the sky, blows the trumpet, coming like lightning.. that should all sound familiar. Jesus was identifying Himself as the Lord God from this passage (you can use this when a Muslim claims that Jesus never said He is God, it is a direct reference).
Then His people are as the stones of a crown, lifted up as an ensign (a banner) upon the land.. in other words.. God's people are raised up above the land, in the sky. That should sound familiar. Paul knew the scripture Jesus was referring to and referred to it himself. Paul did not just randomly pull doctrine out of the ether. Everything Paul taught was at least partially revealed in the Old Testament. Just as the Bereans did, you should take everything that Paul talks about and check it against Old Testament scripture to see if its true. Never take a person who claims to be an Apostle at his word, always take it according to His Word.

But anyway, note in that passage... who blows the Trumpet: The Lord God, aka Jesus.

So, 1 Thessalonians 4, the Olivet Discourse, and Zechariah 9 all have God blowing the trumpet. Not an angel.

but Revelation 11's 7th trumpet... is blown by an angel, not God. They are not the same thing.

I gave my views, as well as the views of millions of others Christians. You gave yours.

The church has many different denominations cause of their differences in theologies / belief's / interpretations of many scriptures.

The book of Revelation is believed to had been written some point in the 90 ADs but before 97 AD. It is believed to have been written in the late years of the life of the Apostle John on the island of Plasmos.

Who Wrote the Book of Revelation? — Blog — Groundwork Bible Study

Church tradition holds that the Apostle John wrote the book of Revelation. While some scholars have questioned John’s authorship, key theological themes and attributions from early church leaders, like Irenaeus of Lyons, affirm that John wrote Revelation. Yet, John points to another, a divine...

groundworkonline.com

Who Wrote Revelation? - Thomas Nelson Bibles

Learn more about Revelation, the story of Jesus' ultimate triumph over evil and the fulfillment of God's plan of redemption.

www.thomasnelsonbibles.com

The time span between when Paul wrote his letters and John wrote his has no bearing on truth, and 30 years is a very small time frame. Just as the time span between the Old Testament and the New Testament has no bearing on truth. And I am referring to time span not differences in beliefs.

Now if you believe Jesus is the one blowing the horn that is for you to believe and those who believe like you. the Bible does not state Jesus is going to blow the horn. The horn is with him just like his angels are with him and the Bible specifically says the angel will blow the seventh trumpet.

And if you believe in what John Nelson Darby / Margaret McDonald began to teach in the 19th century concerning the pre-tribulation rapture, which took almost complete hold of the church in the 1950s that is your right to do so. At least half of the Christian's disagree. There are Christians who believe and as you in pre, there are those who believe in mid, and there are those like me who believe in post tribulation rapture.

Rapture Doctrine invented by John Darby in 1830 AD

I'm not going to touch on anything else you said, the Bible tells us don't have words over scripture as I said at the beginning you stated your views and I've stayed in mine, have a good day.

Landon Caeli · Thursday at 11:04 AM

Larniavc said:
I didn't. You ignored my entire point and introduced a red herring made up out of whole cloth (as has been noted upthread by the extremely wise @BCP1928 ). You can't do that! Are you being deliberately obtuse?

I'll say it again. You cannot make sweeping statements about an entire population, culture or society. That this needs repeating to you is astounding.

I have no idea what you're talking about then.

Landon Caeli · Thursday at 11:03 AM

BCP1928 said:
What "minority" are you talking about? The minority of Mizrahi Jews who have to adapt to the Western-oriented culture of the Ashkenazis who run the state of Israel because Israel is supposed to be the Western-oriented state we're paying them for?

Yes, they need to try and adapt.

timothyu · Thursday at 11:02 AM

This will occur when man accepts the only Gospel that Jesus taught is fulfilled. That the Father, not man or men claiming to be God’s representatives, will rule over this world.

Always in His Presence · Thursday at 10:59 AM

wing2000 said:
You're ignoring the crime rate in red states.

Because this thread is not about red states now - is it?

wing2000 said:
The fact is, one can call out crime in any city...and spin it for political purposes...or in this case, justify putting the US Military into our streets.

uh huh.....

wing2000 said:
It's UNAMERCAN.

Constitutional authority is now un-American?

rjs330 · Thursday at 10:58 AM

Benaiah468 said:
The Arabs are now reaping the misery of what they've sowed. Someone should tell that to them.

Yes. He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword.

Benaiah468 · Thursday at 10:56 AM

Where do the aid deliveries end up in the Gaza Strip?

Over the past four weeks, more than 90 percent of all aid shipments to the Gaza Strip have been intercepted and stolen.

The United Nations officially denies that significant quantities of aid brought into the Gaza Strip by various organizations (with the exception of the American Gaza Humanitarian Foundation are being stolen by Hamas and other actors. The United Nations consistently rejects Israel's claims that the appropriation of aid shipments would cement the Islamists' rule over the population. But what do the figures say?

Since shipments resumed on May 19 after a several-week hiatus, the UN2720 Monitoring & Tracking website has been providing information on how many deliveries were unloaded at the border in the Gaza Strip and how many were taken over by aid organizations for onward transport, as well as how many arrived at their destination and how many were intercepted and stolen

"either peacefully by starving people or violently by armed actors during transit"

though not all by Hamas.

Let's take a look at the data from the past four weeks:

In the week from July 19 to 25, 430 trucks were taken over at border crossings, of which seventeen reached their designated recipients and 412 were intercepted.

In the week from July 26 to Aug 1, 624 trucks were intercepted; 53 reached their destinations and 571 were intercepted.

In the week from Aug 2 to 8, 577 trucks were intercepted; 59 reached their destinations and 518 were stolen.

In the week from Aug 9 to 15, 267 trucks were seized, 27 reached their destination, and 240 were intercepted.

According to these figures, between 90 and 96 percent of all deliveries were intercepted and stolen in the last four weeks. It is therefore no surprise that, given such figures, there are supply bottlenecks in the coastal enclave on the one hand, while on the other hand, relief supplies are available on the black market at artificially inflated prices.

The ineffectiveness of this system needs no further explanation. Israel is therefore entirely justified in calling for a different system that ensures aid actually reaches those who need it most. This may not yet be the case with the GHF's four distribution centers (especially since Hamas is doing everything it can to cause chaos and death there), but one thing should be clear: the aid organizations responsible for the figures mentioned above cannot seriously claim to be operating a better functioning system.

durangodawood · Thursday at 10:54 AM

ThatRobGuy said:
You'd mentioned wanting an example of an endorsement.

So you don't see major respected institutions not only giving credibility, but also offering things like Chiropractic and the other stuff?

What do you see as a bigger black eye on public health?

A few thousand people declining to get vaccinated (although we're still above the vaccination coverage of countries like Finland and Norway)

Or 50 million people a year getting phony health advice from Naturopaths, Chiropractors, and Traditional healers (and when they go to look it up online, thinking "it must be a legit thing if places like UCLA offer it")?

We talk about medical misinformation only with regards to vaccines for some reason, but there are other critical facets of health that are equally impacted (and to a higher scale).

For instance, this write up by BYU:

Beyond seemingly innocuous alternative remedies to do with dieting, misinformation can influence much more deadly behavior. For example, cancer patients using alternative remedies are far more likely than other patients to refuse evidence-based treatment and have a higher mortality rate. About 37% of people in the United States will be diagnosed with cancer at some point. Furthermore, 39% of Americans believe alternative medicine alone can cure cancer. Those who choose this route are 3.5 times more likely to experience death.

Per the NIH:
A person who uses the services of alternative practitioners like naturopaths or chiropractors is roughly 25-35% less likely to accept vaccines for themselves or their children compared to the general population.

When evaluated against the number I cited before (that over 50 million people a year go to one or both of those)

Disclosure: I used perplexity's AI for the math:

If there are 50 million people total going to chiropractors or naturopaths annually (which may include repeat visits), and given the estimate that these visitors are about 20-30% less likely to accept vaccines, we can estimate the number of additional vaccine skeptics generated by this group compared to the general population.

If the general population vaccine hesitancy is X%, then vaccine hesitancy among this group would be roughly 1.2X to 1.3X.

To translate raw numbers, assume a typical vaccine hesitancy rate of about 10% in the general public (varies by vaccine and population).

Then among 50 million alternative treatment users, vaccine hesitancy would be about 12-13%, i.e., an extra 2-3% compared to the general public.

This means:

50 million visitors × 2-3% = 1 to 1.5 million additional vaccine skeptics potentially created by this group's lower vaccine acceptance rates compared to the general population.

So all of that being said, why are prominent medical institutions offering alternative practitioners for people to see and advertising it on their website?

If we look at the MMR coverage before and after RFK:

Assuming about 3.9 million kindergarteners in the U.S. each year:

Year % MMR vaccinated # Unvaccinated Kindergarteners
2018-2020 95.2% ~187,000
2023-2025 (May) 92.7% ~286,000

So, the decrease in MMR coverage since 2018-2020 translates to roughly an additional 99,000 kindergarteners unvaccinated

...and obviously not all of those 99k are attributable personally to him.

Obviously to get a more concrete picture of which has the propensity to do more damage, we'd have to more about the ~1-1.5 million who've become hesitant due to what they've heard from an alt-medicine practitioner. For example, a person who becomes anti-vaxx from what a chiro told them at age 50 after their kids are grown and already vaccinated presents a lower risk than a person who gets that bad information that hasn't had kids yet.

Blanket dismissal of "alternative medicine" doesnt make sense either. What matters is in the details of how its approached. In the blog post example of yours that I dug into its about care "support" and pain control and so on. Presumably if the person had cancer, the UCLA position is not massage and ginger etc as primary treatment. Those would be in "support" of scientifically evidenced treatment. I have no problem with this.

Soyeong · Thursday at 10:54 AM

SabbathBlessings said:
The Greek definition shows there are different categories -some being ceremonial.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

This is the definition of the word ordinances in Col 2:14

δόγμα
dogma
dog'-mah
From the base of G1380; a law (civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical): - decree, ordinance.

Again, Colossians 2:14 is the reason why the Greek definition shows that there're different categories - some being ceremonial, so it is circular to then quote that definition to try to show that Colossians 2:14 is speaking about ceremonial laws. "Dogma" does not refer to ceremonial laws, but an error was made to interpret Colossians 2:14 as referring to ceremonial laws being nailed to the cross, so another error was made in thinking that "dogma" can refer to ceremonial laws because of how it is interpreted as being used in Colossians 2:14 and the definition does not justify the error. The other uses of "dogma" in the Bible do not refer to any of the commands of God ceremonial or otherwise.

SabbathBlessings said:
While I agree the debt was cancelled because Jesus took the penalty for sin at the Cross - Amen!

But Paul goes on to say, that the feast days- that some were annual sabbaths, meat offerings etc all ended at the Cross- I mean why would anyone want to make an animal sacrifice for sin, which could never take away sins it was always a placeholder, but with the blood of Christ He can cleanse us of all sin and unrighteousness when we go to Him and repent and turn from our sins. If we are still making animal sacrifices, it is saying Jesus blood was not enough. The Bible does not teach this.

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Paul is quoting Ezekiel all of the sacrifices and offerings.

Eze 45:17 And it shall be the prince's part to give burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and in the sabbaths, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel.

These were all shadows pointing forward to Christ

Heb 9:10 concerned only with foods and drinks, various washings, and fleshly ordinances imposed until the time of reformation.
Redemption Through the Blood of Christ
Heb 9:11 But Christ came as High Priest of the good things to come, with the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation.
Heb 9:12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.
Heb 9:13 For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer, sprinkling the unclean, sanctifies for the purifying of the flesh,
Heb 9:14 how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Heb 10:1 For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect.
Heb 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins.
Heb 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year.
Heb 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins.
Heb 10:5 Therefore, when He came into the world, He said: "SACRIFICE AND OFFERING YOU DID NOT DESIRE, BUT A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED FOR ME.
Heb 10:6 IN BURNT OFFERINGS AND SACRIFICES FOR SIN YOU HAD NO PLEASURE.
Heb 10:7 THEN I SAID, 'BEHOLD, I HAVE COME—IN THE VOLUME OF THE BOOK IT IS WRITTEN OF ME—TO DO YOUR WILL, O GOD.' "
Heb 10:8 Previously saying, "SACRIFICE AND OFFERING, BURNT OFFERINGS, AND OFFERINGS FOR SIN YOU DID NOT DESIRE, NOR HAD PLEASURE IN THEM" (which are offered according to the law),
Heb 10:9 then He said, "BEHOLD, I HAVE COME TO DO YOUR WILL, O GOD." He takes away the first that He may establish the second.
Heb 10:10 By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

This is exactly what was predicted Jesus would do.

Dan 9:27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate."

Col 2:10 and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power.
Col 2:11 In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ,
Col 2:12 buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.
Col 2:13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,

Jesus is our circumcision and He is our Passover, why these were all shadows pointing to Jesus - the seventh day Sabbath that is in the Ten Commandments is part of God's law and Testimony that defines what sin is 1 John 3:4 James 2:11 Mat 5:19-30 Rom 7:7 and can't be a shadow of anything because it was given before sin at Creation Exo 20:11 and is part of God's perfect will before the disease of sin at that was allowed when our first parents choose to listen to the other spirit instead of God. .

The OT prescription for sin, which was the animal sacrifices and the only way to get access which caused a wall of separation was to be circumcised is what was nailed to the Cross. So therefore, not all the laws are the same. The law that was given for the forgiveness of sins can't be the same law that defines what sin is. Therefore some laws were ceremonial and some laws are God's moral law, written personally by God - His own Testimony under His mercy seat, that is also revealed in His heavenly temple Rev 11:19

No, what was nailed to the cross was not any of God's laws, but the list of the charges that were against us because of our lawlessness. In Titus 2:14, it does not say that Jesus gave himself to free us from any of God's laws, but in order to free us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works. Paul was encouraging the Colossians not to let anyone judge them for keeping God's feasts and was emphasizing the importance of continuing to keep them because they are foreshadows that point to Christ. We should live in a way that points to Christ by following his example of obedience to God's law rather than a way that points away from him. In 1 Corinthians 5:6-8, Paul spoke in regard to how Passover foreshadows Christ by drawing the connection of him being our Passover lamb, however, instead of concluding that we now no longer need to celebrate Passover, he concluded by saying that we should therefore continue to celebrat it. Someone is celebrates Passover in accordance with the example that Christ set for us to follow is testifying about who God is, what He has done, what He is doing, and what He will do while someone who does not celebrate Passover is bearing false witness against these things.

Sin is the transgression of any of God's laws, not just ten of them. Someone can continue to be a doer of God's law even after they have transgressed it by continue to follow the instructions that it gives for when we transgress it, but if someone does not follow those instructions, then they are compounding their sin and immorality.

Always in His Presence · Thursday at 10:53 AM

BCP1928 said:
Can you name the policies? That was the question.

Sure - and here is the answer in their own words:

Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) -

Working towards a better future for all.

www.dsausa.org

Don't forget - I 100% support her running. Alexandria would be the biggest gift the whomever her opponent is that the Republicans could ever hope for. She is good for the Republican Party I support and endorse her campaign running.

Say it aint so · Thursday at 10:52 AM

Tuur said:
That's actually funny. White. Evangelical. Christians. Where's the emphasis in this label? White, evangelical, or Christian? "Progressives" tend to think all three are bad. Yeah, that's really going to get "Progressives" the "Whites," "evangelicals," and Christian votes.

Somehow I don't think "White Evangelical Christians" are the only ones who're hoping to eventually go to Heaven, or reach Nirvana, or whatever you want to think comes later. I really don't. Atheists, who look forward to a dreamless sleep of non-existence, are excepted. And no, that's not a slur. Isaac Asimov said as much in an essay. And yet when we have a public figure express the same thing most are hoping for, in the exact same way, by "good works," then it's immediately labeled as appealing to an imaginary "voting block," even though Christians immediately pick up on how it's trusting in one's own works and not Christ.

Taken at face value, Trump's statement is no different than an average American saying "I'm a good person. I hope I make it to Heaven." None.

White Evangelical Christians is not a term I made up. Pew: "White evangelicals continue to stand out in their support for Trump". It's who they are. And no, that voting bloc and the power of that voting bloc is not imaginary. And let it be said those Christian power brokers who have Trump on speed dial see it as means for power for they themselves. (Maybe not Jerry Falwell Jr so much now). Perhaps you don't live in the states?

Taken at face value, the average doesn't play a charade of faith in order to use those of faith to get a desired outcome.

Strong in Him · Thursday at 10:52 AM

Apple Sky said:
They were probably in on it too, remember the Antarctic treaty ?

That means you can't answer it, so you are choosing to reply to only one question.
"They were probably in on it" - do you mean "probably" as in " the balance of evidence suggests" or "probably" as in "I haven't a clue so I'll just make this wild accusation that I can't prove"?

rjs330 · Thursday at 10:52 AM

DaisyDay said:
Hand waving and excuses. What "new" information does Trump have now that was unavailable before?

I don't know and neither do you. Biden didn't release it either. Perhaps you ought to consider they know something we don't.

You don't live you life with never changing your mind upon receiving new information. Presidents don't either. No one operates that way. And since neither you nor i are president we don't have the same access to information they do.

BPPLEE · Thursday at 10:49 AM

rambot said:
Threads about this story are an AMAZING example about comparing anecdotal evidence and statistical evidence.

List a set of individual incidents with names....from a city of 700,000.

you can argue the "wrong people" are getting mugged in dc all you want.

But you can't say the whole city is so unsafe because his buddy got hurt.

If you're sending in thr army you better define what lack of safety means and better be willing to actually make DANGEROUS places safer.

Becsuse there are far more dangerous places than DC.

Also, strange that he continues to get support after the right Smolletted him up REAL good.

I don't know if you can trust the statistical data. It seems there's been an effort to cook the books

Strong in Him · Thursday at 10:48 AM

Apple Sky said:
There's a difference between plotting & a theory. Conspiracy Theorists are just that theorists.

a) I was showing you the meaning of conspiracy - i.e. a plot; a plan to cause harm or damage.
Some body/people have conspired together to come up with the theory that the moon landings were faked/Elvis is alive/this action looks suspicious.

Apple Sky said:
Yes I do

What are the names of everybody in NASA then? What are their qualifications? What experiments are they doing and what are they trying to prove/cover up?
You don't know, do you?

Apple Sky said:
I've read believable stories that would make yer hair curl.

You choose to believe them because you are addicted to conspiracy theories and are ready to swallow anything which confirms your beliefs

When it comes to Christians though - your brothers in Christ - you're willing to believe that they are lying.

Apple Sky said:
You wouldn't believe me if I told you.

Might do; might not.
But as you haven't told us, we have nothing to go on. And I want proper references, please - not just YouTube clips that are a few hours long, and which you probably haven't watched anyway.

Apple Sky said:
I can see your using all the 'W's' well.
Who, what, when & why.

A sure sign that you can't answer my questions; change the subject or give a slightly condescending reply.
This is not the first time I've asked you what NASA are covering up - still no answer.

No evidence is still no evidence.

Always in His Presence · Thursday at 10:46 AM

Trump wins major victory: Appeals court overturns NYC civil fraud judgment

The decision came seven months after the Republican returned to the White House. A five-judge panel of New York's Appellate Division concluded that the $515 million judgment—originally set at $355 million plus interest—was "excessive" and unconstitutional under the Eighth Amendment.

Benaiah468 · Thursday at 10:45 AM

In order for believers to be in harmony with what G-d is doing today, it is crucial for them to be familiar with the entire Word of G-d. And since most end-time prophecies focus on the restoration and redemption of Israel and its enemies, knowledge of His Word helps us to pray in accordance with His will for His people, despite the chaos in today's world.

Messiah, use all the current tensions and hardships that many believers are experiencing to turn Your body to Your Word, as Moses says, so that all their needs may be met

And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the Lord doth man live. Deut 8:3

Lord Jesus, speak to Your body that if they truly believe, they must expect to be disciplined by G-d, as every good father disciplines his child

Thou shalt also consider in thine heart, that, as a man chasteneth his son, so the Lord thy G-d chasteneth thee. Deut 8:5
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. Heb 12:5-8

Lord Messiah, raise up voices in the body to condemn the increasing anti-Semitism and the spread of lies about Your people, into whom they are grafted, which are widespread in their societies today

For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches. And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if G-d spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of G-d: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for G-d is able to graft them in again. For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?... It hath pleased them verily; and their debtors they are. For if the Gentiles have been made partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to minister unto them in carnal things. Rom 11:16-24 .15:27
Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without G-d in the world: But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. Eph 2:11-13

Lord Jesus, teach the congregation that it is of central importance to You to reestablish Israel in its land; and then turn them to advocate for Your will to be done on earth

Yea, I will rejoice over them to do them good, and I will plant them in this land assuredly with my whole heart and with my whole soul. Jer 32:41
And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth. Lk 11:2

com7fy8 · Thursday at 10:44 AM

joechristianwarrior said:
but justice with regard to issues like poverty, inequality, racism and sexism here in this life, right here, right now. What, in your position, should the Christian position be toward such issues in *this* life?

Do what I can do.

I mean in personal relating with people in need.

People need contact with someone who loves them and shares with them personally.

And you need to see if and how a needy person is going to be "sustainable". I can not babysit someone for the rest of the person's life.

About politically and with programs changing things . . . I have enough to do, already, with personal helping.

But if others can get into politics and careers and programs and help people, this is fine with me. I will support them however I can.

But I see how family culture can help people and keep them sustainable, while political things and programs can go down the tubes, at some point.

And if you just feed people, you might save children's lives, but who might use them after you "save" them? You need family culture. Terrorists can harvest rescued children to be child soldiers. Gangs and Hamas might get some control of what you provide for needy people. Extortion racketeers can sign up homeless people for social security and collect it while keeping the "helped" people on drugs and/or held up in shelters by not giving them services that return them to society.

Jesus is the only way who really works > "without Me you can do nothing" (in John 15:5). However, I would say there is Christian ministry which is organized and which provides material and social help. May be the more successful ones make sure they spend time with ones they reach, to help them to become saved and grow in Jesus and discover how to make things work out in their lives in this evil world.

But there are ones "helped" who exploit the services, for example a guy out of jail then picking up a church woman with money and shacking. Then you have helped to produce a victim, by enabling someone not for real who then has church culture resources and credibility to use people.

So . . . you do not "want" to get some mass-produced operation going. But also we do not want to be controlling and watching people in every detail >

"nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3)

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