Landon Caeli said:

Now they're multicultural,

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Again: you can’t say that kind of thing about an entire section of society. SOME are multicultural but some are very much not.

Please try to imagine humanity with a pinch of granularity instead of making sweeping authoritative statements about huge swathes of people.

Landon Caeli said:

"well, they were the idiots who decided to put their own lives at risk, let's not help"

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You seem to be forgetting the common American refrain of “it’s their fault for making poor life choices”.

Godcrazy said:

I feel I do not fit in there are so few that are deeper,

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Neither do I, going deep into a subject is gift from God.

Michie said:

'God wants to establish devotion to the Immaculate Heart in the world, because the world must recognize with utmost gratitude what this heart has done for it.'

Devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary is more pressing than ever and essential if humanity is to turn from an era dominated by a culture of death towards entering the mystery of the true love of God, a Franciscan Mariologist has said.

Italian Franciscan Father Alessandro Maria Apollonio believes that the image of true love par excellence can be witnessed through devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, “the first maternal cooperator, closest to us, of our joy, which will only be complete in paradise.”

In this recent interview with the Register on the sidelines of “A Day With Mary” conference in London, Father Apollonio observed the inadequate response to the Lord’s invitation to establish a global devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary and why a proper response by mankind is so urgently needed.

A teacher of philosophy and theology currently living in Slovakia, Father Apollonio chaired the Aug. 6-8 London symposium, which brought together Mariologists from across the world.

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Franciscan Mariologist: Devotion to Immaculate Heart of Mary Is Urgent Need for Today’s World

'God wants to establish devotion to the Immaculate Heart in the world, because the world must recognize with utmost gratitude what this heart has done for it.'

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Yes! 'God wants to establish devotion to the Immaculate Heart in the world, because the world must recognize with utmost gratitude what this heart has done for it.'

The Two Hearts - the Heart of Jesus and the heart of Mary are eternally now bound to each other, united with each other, in the mysteries of God seen from a different perspective in the above post Theological implications of Microchimerism. The whole Christian world especially, and first, should know of the Union of the Two Hearts in the plan and designs of God the Holy Trinity. The entire world should know the heights and depths of God's love for humanity, manifest in the mysteries of the Divine penetration of eternal love into the creation of humanity - male and female - in the Divine image and likeness - that human persons might find their meaning in Him, in Holy Love.

The well-known dream of St. John Bosco - the ship of the Church under fierce attack, but remaining safe if anchored to the Two Towers of 1) the Holy Eucharist and 2) rightful devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary - this prophetic dream was from God, and for especially the End Times, and for the Church to fully receive obediently as His Holy Will.

GreatMysteryofChrist said:

Do you accept the teachings of the Holy Catholic church

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Does Jesus ?

Strong in Him said:

This is what conspiracy theories do to people - rob them of common sense and independent thought.

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Actually it's quite the opposite, what conspiracies theories do is wake one up to the truth.
They may not always get it right but on this occasion they are.

LDS is an evil cult that financially exploits its members by promising things which no Christian church can promise, because Christ never said that. The Book of Mormon contradicts the Bible, but the Mormon religion is based on Orwellian doublethink.

That said Mormons probably are recruited by the CIA and other agencies with foreign agents because of international missionary work and the fact that the Mormons don’t welcome converts who have criminal records. Also Mormonism is an “all American religion” that has no connections with any foreign governments, unlike most Christian denominations, nor is it a member of an organization like the World Council of Churches (which in the 1970s was deeply infiltrated by the KGB by extorting leaders of the many Protestant, Old Catholic and Orthodox churches behind the iron curtain or influenced by churches behind the iron curtain, or in the case of Finland, through a government that was capitalist but itself subject to Soviet coercion in terms of foreign policy (see Finlandization) by threatening reprisals against their laity and clergy, such as the Lutheran Churches of Estonia, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Russia, Ukraine and Poland, the Evangelical Churches of Hungary and Czechoslovakia, and the Bulgarian, Czechoslovakian, Ethiopian, Finnish, Georgian, Japanese, Polish, Russian (except for the anti-communist Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia, also known as ROCOR, which is based in New York City) and Ukrainian Orthodox, and also half of the Armenian Apostolic Church (the Catholicosate of Holy Etchmiadzin and All Armenia, but not the pro-American, anti-communist Catholicos of the Great House or Cilicia based in Lebanon).

The Serbian Orthodox as part of Yugoslavia were in a communist dictatorship that had friendly relations with the West and hostile relations with the Soviets since Tito and Stalin had a bit of a row in the late 1940s. Thus, they were not pro-Soviet.

As a result the WCC developed a tendency to endorse Soviet foreign policy especially regarding Communist regimes in Africa, Asia and Latin America, such as the Anglolans, the Derg Communists in Ethiopia, who martyred the last Emperor for refusing to renounce Orthodox Christianity, and pro-Soviet regimes like Libya.

For this reason the WCC was boycotted by several anti-communist churches, notably ROCOR, most of whose members were emigres at the time descended from Russia, Ukraine and Belarus (then the RSFSR, the Ukrainian SSR and the Byelorussian SSR), with a few from elsewhere in the USSR such as the Kazakh SSR, the Uzbek SSR, and the Moldovan SSR. Since the downfall of the USSR and the Warsaw Pact, the Georgian Orthodox Church withdrew from the WCC in 1997, and the Bulgarian Orthodox Church withdrew in 1998, and the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Jerusalem ceased almost all participation in WCC events.

Strong in Him said:

Exactly.

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Like I said they are never going to admit to these reasons OR else.

Apple Sky said:

You asked me what evidence I have, I have none as the astronauts are not going to jeopardize these reasons are they ?
And NASA certainly wont as per.

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"As per".
You know nothing whatsoever about NASA - you just throw out random accusations, knowing that you can't prove them. The whole thing's a "cover up" or "a lie" by all 17,000 NASA employees.

This is what conspiracy theories do to people - rob them of common sense and independent thought.

Apple Sky said:

None see post above.

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Exactly.

Apple Sky said:

NASA's not going to admit too it are they ?

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It's got nothing to do with NASA.
YOU implied that men lied about walking on the moon because of money or threats made to their families. You should provide evidence, otherwise it's just a baseless allegation.
So, what evidence have you got that Christian astronauts were either being paid to say that they walked on the moon or had their families threatened and feared violence unless they claimed that they went into space and walked on the moon?

Strong in Him said:

Evidence?

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None see post above.

David Lamb said:

I didn't mention NASA. I asked you what evidence you have that the Christian astronauts lied for money, or that somebody was threatening their families if they didn't lie.

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You asked me what evidence I have, I have none as the astronauts are not going to jeopardize these reasons are they ?
And NASA certainly wont as per.

GreatMysteryofChrist said:

I believe and teach everything that is stated above except for recoginizing the Holy Catholic church as the true church. The apostolic church that the Apostles started, along with its teachings of truth as recorded in the NT, is the one true church.

Do you accept the teachings of the Holy Catholic church or is that an exception for you, too?

Joe

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"Catholic" in the Nicene Creed has a small c. It just means world-wide, universal. It doesn't refer only the the Roman Catholic denomination.

Apple Sky said:

NASA's not going to admit too it are they ?

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I didn't mention NASA. I asked you what evidence you have that the Christian astronauts lied for money, or that somebody was threatening their families if they didn't lie.

David Lamb said:

So now you seem to be accusing your fellow Christians not only of lying, but of doing so for monetary gain. You also seem to be suggesting that somebody threatened the Christian astronauts' families if they (the astronauts) said that they hadn't really been to the moon. But once again, you have provided no evidence, either of Christians astronauts lying for monetary gain, or of anybody threatening their families.

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NASA's not going to admit too it are they ?

Thank you all for welcoming me back! I remember some of you very well, and it's good to see new people here too.
I always remember you all being a friendly bunch. I don't know why I left for so long!
I've got a few more days of annual leave left and I'll be spending some time this morning catching up with posts here on CF!
I've also done a refresh of my profile - pop along and pay a visit - you'll be most welcome

Apple Sky said:

It's either because of money or threats to their families.

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So now you seem to be accusing your fellow Christians not only of lying, but of doing so for monetary gain. You also seem to be suggesting that somebody threatened the Christian astronauts' families if they (the astronauts) said that they hadn't really been to the moon. But once again, you have provided no evidence, either of Christians astronauts lying for monetary gain, or of anybody threatening their families.

GreatMysteryofChrist said:

Dear GoldenKingGaze,
Here is the Nicene Greed:

I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.

I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,
he suffered death and was buried,
and rose again on the third day
in accordance with the Scriptures.
He ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead
and his kingdom will have no end.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.

I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins
and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
and the life of the world to come.

Amen.

I believe and teach everything that is stated above except for recoginizing the Holy Catholic church as the true church. The apostolic church that the Apostles started, along with its teachings of truth as recorded in the NT, is the one true church.

Do you accept the teachings of the Holy Catholic church or is that an exception for you, too?

Joe

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The Nicene Creed is Trinitarian.

Aaron112 said:

God's Word says His children are light(s) in the world; but the world hates the light because it's actions-deeds-works are evil and they do not want to be exposed. Thus cannot expect the light to turn people to God.

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I think light is a good analogy. It sort of encompasses truth but also a position that is transparent. Being willing to subject oneself to the light.

The Liturgist said:

That’s a non-sequitur.

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Not so, in my view. Psalm 148 has the psalmist saying "praise Him" to angels, sun, moon and stars:

“2 Praise Him, all His angels; Praise Him, all His hosts! 3 Praise Him, sun and moon; Praise Him, all you stars of light!” (Ps 148:2-3 NKJV)

Valetta had said that the psalmist was praying to angels. If that is so, he seems also to have been praying to sun, moon and stars, and of course he wasn't.

RileyG said:

Correct. There’s a small percentage of clergy who broke their vow of celibacy.

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How do you know it’s a small percentage?