LizaMarie said:

BTW if you're on X there is a fertility clinic advocating for all children to be conceived via in-vitro so that defects can be screened out(Hitler's new man here we come)
And there is an article somewhere I will soon find that states that the Chinese are working on artificial wombs for infertile couples or even those who don't want to carry a child.
Brave New World, here we come!!China tech CEO reveals plans for humanoid 'pregnancy robot'

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Hey if you have a career you don't even have to carry the child anymore!! In fact lets just abolish parenthood and let the state raise them!!

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Correct. This one incident is why Trump has militarized Washington DC. Because Big Balls got beat up.

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ah, no...

He is the last in a list - example -

1. Amanda Peper, a scheduler for Senator Katie Britt (R-AL), was robbed at gunpoint in October 2023 while walking to her building about a mile from the Capitol
   
   
2. Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-TX) was carjacked by three armed attackers in the Navy Yard neighborhood, less than two miles from the Capitol. He was not harmed
   
   
3. A staffer for Rep. Brad Finstad (R-MN) was attacked at gunpoint near his home in D.C. after returning from the congressional baseball game. The staffer sustained minor injuries
   
   
4. A staff member for Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) was brutally attacked with a knife in broad daylight in March 2023. The victim suffered life-threatening injuries, and a suspect was arrested
   
   
5. Rep. Angie Craig (D-MN) was assaulted in the elevator of her D.C. apartment building in February 2023. She was punched and grabbed by the attacker, who was later arrested and pleaded guilty
   
   
6. In a congressional hearing, Chairman Bryan Steil mentioned that two staff members were mugged at gunpoint near Capitol Hill in 2023, sharing their experiences to highlight the growing threat of violent crime
   

This isn't a one time thing by any means - it just isn't being ignored anymore. And to correct the propaganda line - The President is NOT militarizing the city, he brought in National Guard member to Assist a Police force that is 700 officers short of what they need.

BTW if you're on X there is a fertility clinic advocating for all children to be conceived via in-vitro so that defects can be screened out(Hitler's new man here we come)
And there is an article somewhere I will soon find that states that the Chinese are working on artificial wombs for infertile couples or even those who don't want to carry a child.
Brave New World, here we come!!China tech CEO reveals plans for humanoid 'pregnancy robot'

Michie said:

It’s a three parter. Not sure why you think the RCC is the only one that has this issue. And if they are following their vows, why should it matter?

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But are they following their vows? I was under the impression that they aren’t. Then there’s the abuse scandals.

AV1611VET said:

Welcome to CF, by the way.

Nice chatting with you.

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I’m not new.

A “real”Christian does not follow.religion but a way of life (that is of course Christian is defined as a follower of the Will of Jesus rather than some church)

Protesters heckle Vance, Hegseth, Miller as they get photo op with DC National Guard​

Protesters booed and jeered Vice President JD Vance, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller as they came to [Union] station, located blocks from the U.S. Capitol, to thank the troops. The crowd's chants drowned out the voices of the officials.

Vance and Miller dismissed the jeers of the protesters, which drowned out their press gaggle, calling them "crazy" and "communists."

Vance added that he believed that crime statistics do not report the full scope of crime on the streets, however he declined to talk about evidence that backed his claim up and told a reporter to "You just got to look around."

I was able to be at home for 13 years with our children, after I married in the early '90's. I don't regret it at all.
I read a book by a religious conservative who theorized that 2nd wave or radical feminism came into being as a backlash against the
playboy (Hugh Hefner) movement of the early '60's and the no-fault divorce movement of the late '60's. I have no proof of that but it makes sense to me.
It seems that cultural and politics during my life- time are reactions to the pendulum swinging one way and it's (over)reaction the other way.
Motherhood is a vocation and children need their married mother and father. Yes, there are always children who are exceptions who have succeeded(Dr Ben Carson is one example) but the decline of our culture is IMO the result of the devaluation of traditional marriage and having children. And now see what we've got. We've have things going on that were sadly predicted (including by the RCC).

If that was the case He would have said so. In that case He would have said the world was flooded, not just "land." There's no way to parse one's way out of accepting that God did not say the world was flooded.


Indeed. This is the kind of thing that we often see from KJV-only people. Neglecting what the words actually mean in Hebrew leads one astray.

Platte said:

I gave you the context...

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You gave me your revision of His words. As you learned, God didn't say that the flood was worldwide. Instead of "the world" (tevel) He said "the land" (erets). You might not realize that "erets" means an area, like "erets Israel" (the land of Israel). But there it is. Instead of relying on your own wishes, why not just accept God's word?

Don't be a scoffer; listen to Him.

Vambram said:

There's far too much incorrect information in that post.

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Pick one.

Vambram said:

Nope. You are incorrect.

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Absolutely correct:

"The Task Force was created in 2009 with the understanding that no matter the office or agency -- federal, state, or local; law enforcement or regulatory -- all of us within government share a common desire and have a core obligation to do everything that we can to protect the American public from the often devastating effects of financial fraud, whether it be mortgage fraud or investment fraud, grant or procurement fraud, consumer fraud or fraud in lending. And we know that we can accomplish so much more by working together than by working in isolated, compartmentalized silos. Through the efforts of the Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force, that’s exactly what we’ve done.""

...or do you see banking fraud or regulation of the wild wild west crypto currency as a GOP political agenda that Dems target?

timewerx said:

I don't drink wine, nor any fermented drink/food.

There's nothing in the Bible we shouldn't eat nor drink sugar. Fruits have sugar.

And I do need sugar in my drinks. It's something about "osmotic balance" or w/e. It's genetic. It doesn't seem to be a defect because my body's unique hydration management also allows me to thrive in dehydration levels that would be fatal to other people.

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Drunkness is something that clouds your judgement. If what you are doing leads to sin, then that is a form of drunkness.

The bible forbids anything that alters your mind. Thus, it can be anything from food, to drink, to substances, and more; inside and outside the body.

Hentenza said:

Yep. YEC’s are a minority. In addition there all manners of literary mechanism used in scripture such as poetic language. However, reading the Bible should not be any different from how you read any other non fiction book. For example, when reading non fiction the assumption is literal unless it is obviously non literal.

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What non-fiction genre are you talking about? Why should we suppose that anything in the Bible can be fit into a rigid fiction/non-fiction dichotomy?

HARK! said:

Too few to deport the millions, in a reasonable amount of time, that the Biden Administration allowed to violate our laws.

We need to ramp it up IMO.

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how many people are here illegally and how long have they been here?

matthew 5:9 “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God”

I know you are not to take any verse alone, but how exactly should we take such a verse?

AV1611VET said:

That's a wile of the devil, so as to keep the Bible out of history class.

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I took Bible as Literature in college.

Vambram said:

Debanking people who disagree with the government is NOT legal.

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Debanking people because they disagree with the government is (probably) illegal. That's not the same thing as what you said though.

RileyG said:

How similar are these two Churches?

(I know there are multiple Baptist and Pentecostal denominations)

Both of them believe in adult Baptism, have similar theology (from my understanding), and have many Churches in the Southern United States.

Is there worship style similar?

What are the major differences?

Blessings!

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The Baptist tradition originated in England as a Non-Conformist group started by John Smythe in the early 17th century. Smythe taught against infant baptism and had himself re-baptized (he baptized himself). Smythe also believed in rejecting the establishmentarianism of the Church, and that the Church should be a local congregation of free association bounded by covenant. Like other non-Conformists, the Baptists were persecuted in Britain, and would seek refuge in the Americas. The original Baptists, like Smythe, were of a Puritan variety; but they were not welcome in the Puritan colony of Massachusetts. This led a prominent American Baptist, Roger Williams to leave Massachusetts and establish Rhode Island with the promise of religious freedom (the Baptists rejected the idea of a state church or the government telling people what to believe and believed that religious liberty was a guaranteed right of all people, and being a Christian was a matter of free association).

After the American Revolution and the introduction of the US Constitution which promised religious liberty to all, Baptists were a group that grew and began to thrive in the new nation. However, because the Baptist tradition rejected all forms of church hierarchy and believed only in the local church/congregation, there was an explosion of different kinds of Baptists. What defined a Baptist was certain "Baptist distinctives", not a hierarchal ecclesiastical structure, not even necessary shared doctrine (outside of the certain Baptist distinctives, such as a rejection of infant baptism and belief in believer's baptism). As such while the earliest Baptists with their Puritan heritage were usually Reformed in their theology, later Baptists would adopt an Arminian theology, thus "Reformed Baptists" and "Free Will Baptists". Various issues, theological and practical, would create different groupings of Baptist churches.

Because of this, the Baptist tradition has a great deal of diversity, even within associations and conventions (the closest thing Baptists have, historically, to a larger ecclesiastical structure) there is a diversity from congregation to congregation. This has actually led to modern controversies, for exampling, within the Southern Baptist Convention as the leadership of the SBC has attempted to do some top-down measures to reign in congregations; with congregations in turn having dissociated with the SBC. This was one of the major reasons why Jimmy Carter, a life-long Southern Baptist, eventually left the SBC because he believed the SBC had betrayed its foundational Baptist principles. I only bring this up because it is relevant to the historic Baptist tradition, which historically does not care for top-down ecclesiastical structure--emphasizing the total and free autonomy of the local congregation.

Pentecostalism, on the other hand, is usually said to have its origins in the 1906 Azusa Street Revivals. This is, probably, mostly true--but it's more complicated than that. Pentecostalism has its earlier origins in the Wesleyan-Holiness tradition that emerged in the 19th century, the same tradition that gave rise to the Church of the Nazarene (as an example). And even before 1906 there are examples of Pentecostal-like things happening among these earlier Holiness Churches. However Azusa Street was a major and pivotal moment, and it ultimately led to the formation of distinctively "Pentecostal" churches, such as Assemblies of God. Now, given the historic roots of the Pentecostal tradition, there are some superficial similarities between it and the Baptists; for example a rejection of infant baptism stems from the earlier Holiness Movement having diverse views on the subject (even today the Church of the Nazarene believers baptism or infant baptism depends on personal conscience and the sentiments of the congregation). A case can probably be made that the rejection of infant baptism in the Pentecostal tradition has to do with some influence of credobaptists in the early formation of the movement; as there were many credobaptists who joined (most notably, Baptists themselves). And given Pentecostalism's strong emphasis on a personal encounter with the Holy Spirit, then it stands to reason that those who may have come from paedobaptist traditions (or those which practiced both) wouldn't have had much issue with adopting a credobaptist position if the emphasis was on personal repentance, the choice to be baptized, and then to receive baptism with the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues (the latter being one of the chief distinctive doctrines of the Pentecostal tradition).

Which is to say the Baptist and Pentecostal traditions have very different histories, but there are certain superficial and similar things going on due to either some level of direct or indirect influence (Baptist influence on Pentecostalism, and in modern times also Pentecostal influence on Baptists). Both traditions emphasize a personal and individual participation in Christian religion and thus less stress is placed on historic liturgical practice, giving rise to less structured and loose services designed to fit the specific needs each tradition views as important for their communities (also, no doubt, both having been influenced by the Second Great Awakening in this regard).

Some Baptist churches have been influenced by the Pentecostal tradition, as such there are Charismatic Baptists.

But there are distinctive practices and doctrines which define each tradition. Baptists have their Baptist Distinctives, and Pentecostalism's chief distinctive theological position is baptism with the Holy Spirit with evidence of speaking in tongues.

-CryptoLutheran

DaisyDay said:

He is not only not working on a cure for cancer, he is actively working against cures for cancer by clawing back grants and funding while at the same time crippling the EPA from protecting clean air and water.

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LOL - over reaction number two

BCP1928 said:

All Christians believe that. Nothing in that passage requires us to accept that the creation stories in Genesis are literal accurate history, only that God inspired them.

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Yep. YEC’s are a minority. In addition there all manners of literary mechanism used in scripture such as poetic language. However, reading the Bible should not be any different from how you read any other non fiction book. For example, when reading non fiction the assumption is literal unless it is obviously non literal.

BeckyJ said:

The US isn't the only country with immigration laws.
Some other countries that have immigration laws are: United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Germany, Norway, Hungary, Japan and France.
Some countries immigration laws are more strict than in the US and some are less strict. Either way, there are entrance laws in various countries.
If I go into one of these countries illegally, I can expect to be deported. So I have no problem that the US is deporting illegal entrants.
I have several friends who came to the US the legal way. None of them support the illegal entry the Biden administration allowed and yes, some are democrat.
If you come here legally, you're welcome here
Note: Even God has an entrance requirement. No one will be able to get into Heaven without meeting that requirement.

Are you ok with millions of illegal entrants the Biden administration let in during his 4 yr term...or should they be deported?

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The millions of illegal immigrants should be deported.

essentialsaltes said:

Noem says entire southern border​

essentialsaltes said:

Noem says entire southern border wall will be painted black to stop climbing​

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said Tuesday that the entire wall along the U.S.-Mexico border is going to be painted black to make it hotter and deter illegal immigration — an idea she said was "specifically at the request" of President Trump.

"That is specifically at the request of the president, who understands that in the hot temperatures down here when something is painted black it gets even warmer and it will make it even harder for people to climb. So we are going to be painting the entire southern border wall black to make sure that we encourage individuals to not come into our country illegally," Noem said.

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wall will be painted black to stop climbing​

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said Tuesday that the entire wall along the U.S.-Mexico border is going to be painted black to make it hotter and deter illegal immigration — an idea she said was "specifically at the request" of President Trump.

"That is specifically at the request of the president, who understands that in the hot temperatures down here when something is painted black it gets even warmer and it will make it even harder for people to climb. So we are going to be painting the entire southern border wall black to make sure that we encourage individuals to not come into our country illegally," Noem said.

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Cost of painting from a web search is listed at 1 to 3 dollars a square foot. The minimum height is around 18 feet high, (some sections are far higher, depending on the location) So, the 18 dollars a linear foot at a minimum would be $84,480 per mile (18 *5280). There is 2000 miles so the minimum cost would be $168,960,000 the maximum at 3 dollars a square foot would be about half a billion.
AI says that black paint will create 12-18 degrees of more surface heat from a cooler color. I am not certain but it seems like the color is somewhat dark already. From AI "A metal fence at 100°F (37.8°C) is likely to be warm to the touch but not dangerously hot. While it's not hot enough to cause severe burns, it could be uncomfortable to handle for extended periods." So it seems doubtful that adding the black paint would be much of a deterrent. Most would use a ladder and/or gloves anyway.

I can't find exactly the type of paint and process that is used in the current fence. One would assume that it is painted well, with a rust proofing underlayment, though it might be some kinde of infused process. I might conclude that painting an extra layer of black will cause the wall to last longer as the article suggests. This could be the case. However, given that the weak spot in the metal is likely to be below the surface in the ground, this would only apply to new fence that is painted in it's entirely. The existing wall would fail at or below the surface most likely over time.
It is not likely that a roller brush would be used in anything but the photo opp with Noem. Given the ridges and gaps a sprayer would be used.
So is this decision a good one? I personally think no based on my assumptions. I would assume the US border wall will be upgraded in thirty years or less with higher tech stuff and the money spent here is going to be financed by debt that requires interest to to paid out.

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Biden was not letting people come in illegally. Did he open the asylum process allowing groups like Haitians, Ukrainians, Cubans, and Venezuelans in LEGALLY? yes. Trump did the same thing with (whites only) South Afrikaners. Too many people confuse border encounters, which is an event, as meaning the number of people let in illegally. They are two differing things. Jesus was a displaced immigrant.

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There's far too much incorrect information in that post.

Say it aint so said:

The "facts" of the article are claims made by those in a GOP house hearing. The reality is yes, Obama et al were regulating banking actions given, not political opponents, but fraud.

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Nope. You are incorrect.