Aldebaran said:

You seem to be forgetting the posts after that.
Help the conversation by referring to the most recent posts you've made.

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I'm kind of busy tending to more serious matters. I'll try and get back to this later.

Bradskii said:

No. My rights are what I would term natural. If you want to maintain that they are God-given, then fair enough. Each to his or her own. A government can help you maintain your rights of it can try to remove them. But they are not the source of your rights.

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What is?

Larniavc said:

Not slander if he has lied. But I haven’t yet found where he himself has made any claim.

It’s been claimed in his behalf in this thread. But not by him oddly enough.

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the evidence have been provided. Why you beat a dead horse and not ask him

com7fy8 said:

How do we know it is really God?

Well . . . my offering on this is we can be personally guided by God so we do what is right...

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Unfortunately that doesn't help. You can have two different moral positions held by two Christians, both of whom are convinced that God is informing their decisions. Which one is correct?

com7fy8 said:

Another person would communicate and negotiate through the closed door, never leaving the troubled child alone.

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You're missing the point. I'm not interested in a different scenario. If there is an absolute morality then in the situation as described there is a right and a wrong. At what point does it change from being right to being wrong? There are an unlimited number of examples I could give you when it plainly obvious that there is no point at which an act suddenly changes from being immoral to moral or vice versa. The act is context dependent.

OP you have to explain your thoughts.
If you mean beating your child or show control obedience stuff it is wrong. I was beaten badly and abused and worse by my parents. I know from first hand experience how damaging that is. Those who think that is okay have lost it.
It is the same thing as it say about wives to be obedient but next verse it say men love your wives and be kind and do not show bitterness roughly said. So that means, everything with love. Love does not beat.

Meakaiame said:

Yes, Prof. Sam Vaknin shares in-depth information. He is good.
Here's a series for anyone hurt by narcissists, and for the narcissists too:

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These are very good. It is very tragical. X narc that I know do cry out to God to help him, he has other mental physical issues as well. He believes, but has issues. I keep warning him. He listens. It is tragical, as he keeps praying to God to help him. Please pray for Chris Neil.
We can`t be near them, yet they were created too. And their minds ruined by evil.
It`s heartbreaking to watch. When you know they want God.

Colo Millz said:

Furthermore, if morality comes from society, then the source of your rights is the government.

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No. My rights are what I would term natural. If you want to maintain that they are God-given, then fair enough. Each to his or her own. A government can help you maintain your rights of it can try to remove them. But they are not the source of your rights.

Colo Millz said:

"[A]ll men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

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That's a religious view. I obviously don't agree with it.

Colo Millz said:

If God gives something, humans cannot take it away.

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Unfortunately they all too easily can.

timothyu said:

We make the choice. Weeds? He didn't.

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So you believe mans will is greater than Gods will?

PloverWing said:

Nope, still using words as a weapon.

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that was a question. words are weapons.

Amie

Clare73 said:

I understand Scripture in the light of all Scripture, as not contradicting itself, but in harmony with itself.

Where interpretation of Scripture sets Scripture against itself, I know there is error.

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Yes but who is the arborator of what interpretation is correct ?
I see the scripture that God is reconciling the world to himself as trumping the supposed eternal torture passages in the English when using the original Greek.
It seems that you believe the eternal torture passages trump the reconciliation of all.
Ask yourself this, if eternal torture for most of Gods creation is true why did God wait 4000 years to tell mankind, because most biblical scholars agree that it is not in the Old Testament.

childeye 2 said:

Not getting angry is greater than not murdering.

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How... how is that possible? So, if I don't get angry at someone because they messed up cooking dinner, that is morally better than me not deciding to stab someone to death because they hurt my cat? I'm genuinely flabbergasted at this.

childeye 2 said:

Moreover, God's righteousness is not subject to the law, because HIS SPIRIT/CHARACTER is THE WAY.

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So... God created different rules for us, that he doesn't follow then? No where in the bible does it say this or anything remotely close.

childeye 2 said:

So, in that sense we've all been judged.

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"Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books." - Revelation 20:11-12

That's at the end... We have not been judged yet.

childeye 2 said:

God's Love is the Eternal Power and His Love does supersede His own law even because His righteousness is far and away greater than the righteousness of the law.

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"Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,”and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.- Romans 13:8-10

Something cannot be "greater" if it "fulfills". Also, the definition of righteousness is following the law, so I think you're a little bit confused when you use these words. Your statement doesn't make sense when you understand the word definitions. You're essentially saying, "Him following His law is way greater than following the law."

A lot of your arguments aren't backed up by scripture and you're taking verses to try and apply them to your argument which is going WAY off course to the point of the verse and the point of what is being discussed. If God gives you revelation about anything what-so-ever, it would be backed up by scripture, not be in contradiction to it but your statements contradict scripture and the point and/or message of what the writer is talking about. As an example, You use 1 Corinthians 2:6-8 which the point is, that we don't need to go based off of our own wisdom, but we now have the spirit which gives us wisdom through Christ. But you use that to argue that: "God KNEW in His foreknowledge He would reveal His righteousness through the self-sacrificing Love of the lamb of God."

1 Corinthians = Wisdom because of Christ
You = Righteousness revealed through Christ

See how the topics don't connect? This is a prime example of pulling verses out of context. You're trying to use that verse out of context to push something that the bible does NOT say and the point/purpose of your arguments have no biblical backing either. I suggest, and I say this whole heartedly, that you sit back down and re-think over all of your stances and make sure they fit the context of the verses you're using to back up your beliefs because I think the enemy is having his way with you and twisting scripture to "enlighten" you about stuff that is very very off course. I'm not saying that to be mean, or self-righteous, I'm genuinely concerned based off of what you have shared.

garter

Pepperdoodle said:

I respectfully disagree.
Many saw the months of riots in the summer of 2020 as that.
What started out as peaceful protests the first a couple of weeks in late May was taken over by rioters and lasted for months across the nation.
I think J6 was in part a deflection by the Left overall to take focus off of people demanding the rioters be held accountable.
During the 2020 riots even Left leaning leaders encouraged them on. It was horrible.
But then came one day on J6 and it was the perfect storm for the Left to use.

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You are actually blaming the Left for J6. No MAGA responsibility.

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BelieveItOarKnot said:

Where the observation gets interesting is that even those who PIERCED HIM will see Him. <----Now how are we supposed to view that?!

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They will be the remnant Jews, just a few families; Zechariah 12:11-14
The remnant as Paul plainly tells us; Romans 9:27 and Isaiah 29:1-4 & 6:11-13, +

The 'All Israel' who will be saved, can only be the true Israelites of God, who are now peoples from every tribe, race, nation and language.
You say yourself that ethnicity has no value, therefore those who falsely call themselves Jews and whose hearts are far from God, face punishment and destruction. The Holy Land will be given to the people who bear the proper fruit. Of the Spirit.

Aldebaran said:

That was a long-winded and inaccurate way of accusing me of something.

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I didn't accuse you of anything. In short, I'm saying that pointing out slander isn't slander.

Aldebaran said:

Start over, and prove your accusation against me. Then we'll talk.

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I don't have any accusation against you to prove. I just seek clarity and that's why I asked the question:

"I like clarity, not obfuscation. Are you saying Biden said, "They're poisoning the blood of our country"...?

RamiC said:

Bishop of Ebbsfleet - who leads the complimentarian parishes in the C of E - Statement on new AOC . Posting just in case anyone who is interested comes by here. I am glad he is expressing some respect and saying that he can talk to Sarah Mullally, that just seems better to me than a call to schism would.

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What a gracious statement from the bishop!

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Pommer said:

What’s the “crime” though?

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Yeshua HaDerekh said:

I guess you didnt watch the video

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@ 2:00 even the news show doesn’t know what Comey was indicted for…let alone Clinton.

What’s the “crime”?

keras said:

I think maybe you mean Philippians 2:12-13.....we must work out our own Salvation.....
We have free will, we all choose our own destiny and the Bible is the instruction book for the right way.

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And keras. , will you explain what Phil 2:12 means too WORK OUT OUR OWN SALVATION READY MEANS ??

DAN P

Bradskii said:

I don't blindly follow a morality that someone else has decided. So the decisions that I make are mine. No-one else's. I take responsibility for them. But it's beyond nonsensical to think that every aspect of our lives doesn't have an influence on decisions that we make.

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So, follow your heart and blame your upbringing, in other words.

It's beyond nonsensical to think that one's upbringing has any bearing whatsoever on whether murder is right or wrong.