The Lost House of Israel

[Semper-Fi]

And do you have a verse that when. being BORN AGAIN. that they are spirit. BEINGS??

First. time I have seen that written. ??

dan p

John 3:6 (KJV)​

That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

 

[keras]

Identifying the Tribes of Israel:
It is God’s plan that the House of Judah, i.e. the Jews, remain as an identifiable people group to fulfil the tasks assigned to them. In these present days, one task has been to replant and rebuild the Land.
But the 10 Northern tribes, that is, the House of Israel, have been in exile since 722 BC and the fact of their ancestry is forgotten.

However, the Bible does give us some clues as to who they might be today.-
Who has received the blessings promised? Where will they eventually come from to return to the Land?

THE BLESSINGS -
To Abraham: Father of many nations, exceedingly fruitful, To Isaac: numberless descendants, Land given to them.

• To Jacob: The richness of the earth. Peoples will serve you. Curses on those who curse you, blessing on those who bless you.
• To the 12 sons of Jacob (Israel): See in Genesis 49.

1 Chronicles 5:1-2 states that the Birthright Blessing is given to Joseph.
In Genesis 48 Jacob blesses Joseph’s sons, Ephraim and Manasseh. Both were to become great nations.
Deuteronomy 33:17 The 10,000s of Ephraim and the 1000s of Manasseh will push against the nations, even to the ends of the earth.

Only the British Commonwealth and the United States of America fulfil these prophecies. The other 8 tribes seem to be identified with the European Union nations. Ref: The Tribes, Yair Davidy.

RETURN AND REJOINING IN THE LAND:
There are over forty prophecies telling us of the House of Israel’s return to the Promised Land in the last days, so where they will migrate from gives the clues as to where they are now.

Jeremiah 31:8-10 See, I bring them from a Northern land ... gathered from the far ends of the earth.....a vast company...I am a Father to Israel and Ephraim is My eldest son.

Isaiah 49:12 They are coming, some from far away, some from the North and West and others from the land of Sinim. (Sinim - Hebrew: Southern land, Latin: Australi)

Hosea 11: They will follow the Lord and when He roars His sons will speed out of the West.

So, the main location of the lost ten tribes is in the Northwest and from there, spread around the world. They are now the Christian peoples, Jesus’ mission to save the Lost tribes of Israel did not fail.

 

[BelieveItOarKnot]

Identifying the Tribes of Israel:
It is God’s plan that the House of Judah, i.e. the Jews, remain as an identifiable people group to fulfil the tasks assigned to them. In these present days, one task has been to replant and rebuild the Land.
But the 10 Northern tribes, that is, the House of Israel, have been in exile since 722 BC and the fact of their ancestry is forgotten.

However, the Bible does give us some clues as to who they might be today.-
Who has received the blessings promised? Where will they eventually come from to return to the Land?

THE BLESSINGS -
To Abraham: Father of many nations, exceedingly fruitful, To Isaac: numberless descendants, Land given to them.

• To Jacob: The richness of the earth. Peoples will serve you. Curses on those who curse you, blessing on those who bless you.
• To the 12 sons of Jacob (Israel): See in Genesis 49.

1 Chronicles 5:1-2 states that the Birthright Blessing is given to Joseph.
In Genesis 48 Jacob blesses Joseph’s sons, Ephraim and Manasseh. Both were to become great nations.
Deuteronomy 33:17 The 10,000s of Ephraim and the 1000s of Manasseh will push against the nations, even to the ends of the earth.

Only the British Commonwealth and the United States of America fulfil these prophecies. The other 8 tribes seem to be identified with the European Union nations. Ref: The Tribes, Yair Davidy.

RETURN AND REJOINING IN THE LAND:
There are over forty prophecies telling us of the House of Israel’s return to the Promised Land in the last days, so where they will migrate from gives the clues as to where they are now.

Jeremiah 31:8-10 See, I bring them from a Northern land ... gathered from the far ends of the earth.....a vast company...I am a Father to Israel and Ephraim is My eldest son.

Isaiah 49:12 They are coming, some from far away, some from the North and West and others from the land of Sinim. (Sinim - Hebrew: Southern land, Latin: Australi)

Hosea 11: They will follow the Lord and when He roars His sons will speed out of the West.

So, the main location of the lost ten tribes is in the Northwest and from there, spread around the world. They are now the Christian peoples, Jesus’ mission to save the Lost tribes of Israel did not fail.

Titus 3:9

But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

Being a certain genealogy at the finale doesn't mean a single thing.

Israel is not to be understood as a fleshly matter to begin with. IF you want to toot your end time horn about Israel, THEN toot it properly the way Paul did in Romans 11:26-32 showing that ALL OF ISRAEL shall be saved. That statement sticks a solid fork in your genetic theories.

Truth of the matter is, God couldn't care less what kind of clay cocoon we come wrapped in. He's very intensely interested however for what's inside the box.

The quite entirely factual condition of ALL of us contains evil within. This is what everyone should be concerned with, and maybe not worry so much about the other guy's problems because we all suffer under the same internal affliction that clouds the sights of ALL.

Behold, He comes with the clouds takes on more interesting meanings when we look inside the box. Every eye shall see Him. One might think that is going to be awesome. Where the observation gets interesting is that even those who PIERCED HIM will see Him. <----Now how are we supposed to view that?! Rev. 1:7

Here's an inside tip: IF we see those who pierced Him as under control of the "god of this world" who still happens to be here, along with ALL his own, THEN we can see that those who pierced Him are in fact still standing here UNSEEN.

Oh, isn't this fun? I think eschatology is a blast when we trot in the UNSEEN PARTIES, and particularly so when observing our own "evil present."

Amen?

I didn't think so...

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

And do you have a verse that when. being BORN AGAIN. that they are spirit. BEINGS??

First. time I have seen that written. ??

dan p

I have said it many times in the past

 

[keras]

Where the observation gets interesting is that even those who PIERCED HIM will see Him. <----Now how are we supposed to view that?!

They will be the remnant Jews, just a few families; Zechariah 12:11-14
The remnant as Paul plainly tells us; Romans 9:27 and Isaiah 29:1-4 & 6:11-13, +

The 'All Israel' who will be saved, can only be the true Israelites of God, who are now peoples from every tribe, race, nation and language.
You say yourself that ethnicity has no value, therefore those who falsely call themselves Jews and whose hearts are far from God, face punishment and destruction. The Holy Land will be given to the people who bear the proper fruit. Of the Spirit.

 

[Dan Perez]

John 3:6 (KJV)​

That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

And John 3:5 he that is BORN of WATER and. the Spirit. , and how does that. happen. !!

dan p

 

[Semper-Fi]

Someone needs to post Biblical truths:

A Jewish Redemption?

And I will strengthen the house of Judah, and I will save the house of Joseph,
and I will bring them again to place them; for I have mercy upon them:
and they shall be as though I had not cast them off: for I am the LORD their God,
and will hear them. Zechariah 10:6

In Romans 11:28-32: it does say some of the Jewish people will receive God's mercy,

It says in verse 32 "For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all."

despite their continued rejection of Jesus. Romans 9:27

Verse 27 is about "the children of Israel", not just the Jews. Since you
claim you are the children of Israel, this applies to you right?

There will be two main criteria for this:
1/ They must be actual members of the House of Judah. Not those who call themselves Jews, but are not. Revelation 2:9

This verse is talking about a spiritual Jew [that Christians become],
not about a physical Jew. Jesus Christ clearly knew this.
Many people since after Christ use this verse to slander and justify hatred.

"For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is that circumcision
which is outward in the flesh;" but he is a Jew, which is one inwardly;
and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter;
whose praise is not of men, but of God. Romans 2:28-29

"Spiritual Jew refers to individuals who embody the spiritual principles
outlined in Scripture, regardless of their ethnic background."

2/ They must show true repentance and remorse,

Everyone needs to show true repentance, and be baptized, or they will not receive Gods Gift.

 

[Semper-Fi]

Jewish people are not part of the House of Israel. Over 160 Bible verses make the distinction.

And yet not one verse says "the House of Israel" somehow is now the N.T. Church.
There might be many Christians in the nations of "the House of Israel" today.

Circumcision is irrelevant to Salvation.

Have you not Circumcised your heart yet?

 

[Strong in Him]

The hymn: 'Jerusalem' makes this assertion.

The hymn 'Jerusalem' asks the questions;
"And did those feet in ancient times .......?
And was the holy Lamb of God ......?
And did the countenance divine .....?
"And was Jerusalem builded here .....?"

The answer is; no.

 

[Aaron112]

Have you not Circumcised your heart yet?

ooops. Are you referring to the circumcision of the heart that only God does ? "not made with human hands" and so forth. And "born again" , not by the will of man, nor of blood, nor of the flesh, but by God Himself (His Doing, His Choice, His Determination to do)

 

[Aaron112]

Everyone needs to show true repentance, and be baptized, or they will not receive Gods Gift.

Did the gentiles in Acts show true(or any) repentance before they were blessed by God with Ruach-hakadesh ?
and were the immersed first, or after they received the gift from God (as I think one of the messengers of God noted).?

 

[Aaron112]

Someone needs to post Biblical truths:

Where will the truth be accepted ?