Israel-Hamas Thread II
- By Benaiah468
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Why should they not?
Inhabitants of the region have been called "Palestinians" since Roman times.
That's all very well, but it doesn't answer the question: The indigenous people of the other former Ottoman provinces got their own countries and eventually independence. Why not the indigenous people of the former Ottoman Palestine?
One might wonder why so many refuse to show respect to the "Palestinians" and take them at their word.
To the credit of the "Palestinians", it must be said that for more than a century they have been consistent in word and deed, rejecting any proposal to establish another Arab state on the territory of the defunct Ottoman Empire if that additional Arab state must have a border with the only sovereign state of the Jewish people.
British Foreign Secretary Ernest Bevin provided the clearest diagnosis of the priorities of the "Palestinian" Arabs in February 1947, when none of today's excuses, settlements, occupation, Netanyahu, existed. He stated
"For the Jews, the essential principle is the creation of a sovereign Jewish state. For the Arabs, the essential principle is to resist to the utmost the establishment of Jewish sovereignty in any part of Palestine."
Beavin's words remain as accurate as they are prophetic, even nearly eight decades later.
Nowhere is this more evident than in the so-called refugee issue. Unlike other refugee groups, who were essentially told to move and accept the new borders and sovereignties established after the collapse of empires, the Arab refugees of the 1948 war, which was fought with the stated goal of preventing a Jewish state, were allowed to hijack an organization, UNRWA, to create an ever-growing group of people who call themselves "refugees" and refuse to settle until they achieve their goal of a Jewish state.
Today, UNRWA erroneously counts over six million such "refugees", while "Palestinian" leaders themselves speak of eight to nine million. Their demand is that all of them, children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren of the original refugees, have an individual "right of return" to settle in Israel. With eight million Jews and two million Arab citizens, the implementation of this settlement project would make Jews a minority in an Arab state, even though Arab states have a disastrous record of treating their Jewish minorities and launched ethnic cleansing against nearly a million Jews when they dared to consider themselves equal.
The figures on the flight and expulsion of Jews from Arab states are shocking: of the more than 250,000 Moroccan Jews, only about 2,000 remained in the country. Tunisia was home to 100,000 Jews; today there are 1,000. In 1948, there were 75,000 Jews living in Egypt and 135,000 in Iraq; today there are fewer than 20 in each country. In Yemen, there were about 60,000; today their number is estimated at 50. The Syrian Jewish community was decimated from 30,000 to fewer than 15. In 1948, there were still 140,000 Jews living in Algeria and 38,000 in Libya. Today, there are no Jews left in either country.
Unfortunately, the only state of "Palestine" that the "Palestinians" have enthusiastically accepted is one that could best be described as Schrödinger's "Palestine". Is "Palestine" a state that takes responsibility for invading Israel to commit a horrific massacre? Is "Palestine" a state that recognizes that the millions of people already living in this "Palestine" are not, and cannot be, fifth-generation "Palestinian refugees"? Is "Palestine" a state that ends the myth that millions of "Palestinians" have the right to settle not in this state, but in another state, Israel, of which they were never citizens, the so-called "right of return"? Is "Palestine" a state that surrenders and ends the war? No, for all these adult purposes, "Palestine" is not a state. The cat is dead.
But is "Palestine" a state in order to harass Israel in international forums (the entire case before the ICC was based on this idea)? Yes, then "Palestine" is very much a state. The cat is alive.
Why hasn’t Arab representative government ever been established in "Palestine", either in 1948 or during the next 19 years of Arab rule? Adherents to a separate "Palestinian" identity were a mute minority in Judea/Samaria and Gaza during the 19 years of Jordanian and Egyptian rule, until Israel took control from the Jordanians and the Egyptians in 1967. Suddenly a separate "Palestinian" peoplehood appeared and claimed it deserved nationhood and 21 other Arab states went along with it.
Centuries before Muslims and Arabs even existed, the Romans imposed the name "Palestine" on the Jews and ancient Israel. They banned circumcision and restructured and renamed the province of Judea as "Syria Palaestina". For they remembered the Peleset, the Philistines: by giving the region the name of their historically documented enemies, they set an example. A humiliation. And so the name "Palestine" for the region came into being in the first place.
At the time of Jesus, there were no Arabs living in the Holy Land; like the Bedouins, they only migrated there after the Romans expelled most of the Jews, filling the vacuum that was created! Islam did not emerge until around 800 years later.
There is no mention of "Palestine" in the Qur'an. The region is referred to in the Qur'an as the land promised to the sons of Israel (Sura 5:20-26). Sura 26:59 states that the land will be inherited by the Jews
So it was. And We awarded it ˹all˺ to the Children of Israel. Sura 26:59
Furthermore, there are other passages in the Qur'an that confirm Israel as the permanent home of the Jews (e.g. 2:251; 7:137; 10:93; 17:104; 21:70-71; 28:5-6).
How can the "Palestinians" have the right to establish a state on the Jewish land of Israel, which Allah has granted and bequeathed to the Jews?
The Arabs' claim to the land of Israel is false and constitutes an attack on the Quran, on the Jews and their land. The Quran states that this land belongs to the Jews.
Just a few decades after the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem (70 CE), at the end of the first century CE, flourishing Jewish communities existed once again in Caesarea, Ashkelon, Acco, Beth Shean, and elsewhere. After the suppression of the Jewish revolt under Bar Kochba (132-135 CE), the Romans devastated the Jewish cities and settlements in their province of Judaea and sold many Jews into slavery, but Jewish settlement of the land continued, with Tiberias now becoming the spiritual center. It was there that the Jerusalem Talmud was completed at the end of the 4th century.
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