Kamala Harris says picking a gay man for VP was too big of a risk

[BPPLEE]

You very, very, very clearly do. I've seen billboards less subtle.

Interesting to see that you're advocating for DEI standards, though. That's a new development.

I very, very, clearly don’t. And I’m not advocating anything, just pointing out the hypocrisy

 

[chevyontheriver]

I doubt it. The people who didn't vote for her because of Waltz certainly weren't going to vote for her if she chose Pete.

Some of us wouldn't vote for her even if she picked JD Vance.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

That's your opinion. Others might disagree.

Others don't agree we've been on the moon, live on a round earth, and that 1x1=1. That doesn't make them right.

Biden promised to be a one term president. Guess he lied. Or forgot, or something.

He says he didn't. More likely, he said he was mulling being a one-term president, but then changed his mind when he saw that Trump was running again and since he beat him so handily the first time, he wanted to run again to ensure he didn't regain the office.

He WAS elected as a mayor. So I question your staement.

Of a Democrat-heavy jurisdiction. One that isn't going to have the same problems with homosexuality as the deep south, the plains, and places like Florida or Texas.

Who are these people? Do you have actual names?

I certainly could give you names, but I've been informed that will land me a ban. Instead, you'll just have to just not be deliberately obtuse, looking around at the state of everything from this forum to the demographic of people that elected Trump.

Walz was goofy. Not gay but goofy. He has his niche in Minnesota and is favored to be re-elected governor there. Shapiro had the big problem of being Jewish and the antifa and Hamas wings of the Democratic party would NEVER EVER have approved of that. Shapiro would actually be a better than most candidate for 2028 but he will never be approved by the Democratic Party to have that chance. Maybe he could run as an independent and have a shot.

Your cohort believes he acted gay and has stated as much quite clearly.

I understand why Shapiro wasn't chosen, but it had nothing to do with the mythical antifa and pro=Hamas nonsense that has become the newest Republican boogeyman. It had more to do with his being Jewish and not a predictable Democrat, but one who's willing to fight with his own party but then ultimately capitulate. The inability to reliably predict what he'd make a battle, what he'd let slide, and his lack of tact within handling his own party made him a liability. However, he would have likely brought PA with him and I think he understood the nuances of campaigning on a world stage that Waltz didn't have.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

I would have no problem voting for him if he reflected my values

No duh. That's how voting works, my guy.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

I very, very, clearly don’t. And I’m not advocating anything, just pointing out the hypocrisy

Sure, Jan.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Some of us wouldn't vote for her even if she picked JD Vance.

I would have struggled voting for her if she'd picked JD Vance.

However, it's my vote she was looking for, not yours.

 

[BPPLEE]

No duh. That's how voting works, my guy.

Yeah, it disputes what you’re trying to say about me. I would vote for Mayor Pete if he was conservative on most issues

 

[BPPLEE]

Sure, Jan.

Non responsive

 

[GoldenBoy89]

It didn't matter to the Biden Administration which picked many LGBT folks for a variety of positions. But it somehow mattered to Kamala Harris. Because votes.

Yes, votes tend to matter quite a bit in elections. Is this news to you?

 

[BPPLEE]

Yes, votes tend to matter quite a bit in elections. Is this news to you?

Yes, apparently they matter more than principles

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Yes, apparently they matter more than principles

What principle is that?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I don't know if she's homophobic or she's accusing most Democrats and Independents of being homophobic.

Conservatives wouldn’t vote for him but I doubt you’d say that makes them homophobic.

I mean she must be talking about people who would vote for her otherwise.
That's not the right
And you agree with her?

I agree the mixed race woman would have a very hard go at a national election with a gay running mate, thrown into the race just 100 days before Election Day.

But I’m really intrigued by this reversal on Harris from the right. Last year she was the most liberal politician ever and now the suggestion is she’s not very liberal and maybe even (gasp!) homophobic.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Yeah, it disputes what you’re trying to say about me. I would vote for Mayor Pete if he was conservative on most issues

And he's not, as is evidenced by the fact that he's a gay democrat.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Is she telling us she is homophobic?

Are you telling us she’s not very liberal?


Because that’s what democrats have been saying about her since like 2019.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Non responsive

More than you deserve since you're being more than a little dishonest. I don't waste my time with people who aren't honest.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Fun fact: It is speculated James Buchanan might have been gay. But it has never been proven. There's also rumors about Lincoln's sexual orientation. It really hasn't become a political issue, regarding sexuality, until the late 20th century, eh?

Then there’s JFK.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

But I’m really intrigued by this reversal on Harris from the right. Last year she was the most liberal politician ever and now the suggestion is she’s not very liberal and maybe even (gasp!) homophobic.

I too am surprised by this sudden embracing of DEI by the right who claimed to be so offended by it before.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

The Democrats blew it bad by supporting Biden well into his dotage, and then not having an open convention to pick a replacement for Biden instead of having Biden in his dotage pick his electoral successor. So they got the candidates they deserved. I think mayor Pete was more electable than governor Walz any day of the week though.

I think you’re right and I believe this goes to the point many on the left were making last year that her campaign was playing too much to the center-right and not enough to the left wing base to bring them out to vote for her, relying too much on “I’m not Trump” and not enough “I stand for x, y, z.”

 

[BPPLEE]

And he's not, as is evidenced by the fact that he's gay.

Oh, gay people can't be conservative? Really?

 

[BPPLEE]

You very, very, very clearly do. I've seen billboards less subtle.

Interesting to see that you're advocating for DEI standards, though. That's a new development.

Wait, are you saying that Pete and Kamala would have been a DEI ticket?