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Israel-Hamas Thread II
- By Benaiah468
- News & Current Events (Articles Required)
- 4731 Replies
The British BBC has publicly reprimanded a presenter for describing Hamas as a terrorist group in a news broadcast on 15 June 2025. What sounds like an internal formality is in fact a scandal of international proportions: a broadcaster with a global reach is refusing to name murderers and rapists, thereby not only distorting history, but also normalising anti-Semitism.
The BBC cited its editorial guidelines, according to which the word ‘terrorist’ may only be used in the form of attribution or quotations. The term ‘terrorist group’ is therefore also inadmissible. But this supposedly ‘neutral’ rule turns reality on its head: it does not protect journalistic balance, but obscures the character of an organisation that committed the largest anti-Semitic massacre since the Shoah on 7 Oct 2023.
Those who do not call Hamas terrorism convey to the public that the killing of civilians, the abduction of hostages and the systematic violence against women and children is not clearly identifiable terrorism, but merely a ‘controversial’ act in the context of a conflict. This spares the perpetrators and mocks the victims.
The consequences are dire. Since 7 Oct, anti-Semitic attacks in the UK have increased massively. In precisely this situation, the BBC is sending out the message that Jewish suffering must not be clearly named because it allegedly undermines ‘neutrality’. But neutrality towards terror is not a virtue, but a moral bankruptcy.
The BBC is thus contributing to the normalisation of anti-Semitic narratives. It removes the stigma of Hamas as a terrorist organisation and places its murders in the realm of ‘politically debatable actions’. In doing so, the broadcaster indirectly legitimises the murder of Jews and promotes an atmosphere in which anti-Semitic violence becomes socially acceptable.
The media are not just chroniclers; they shape perceptions. A global broadcaster like the BBC bears responsibility for the words it chooses. When terrorism is concealed or relativised, it strengthens those voices that demonise Israel and glorify violence against Jews as ‘resistance’.
The reprimand against the presenter is therefore more than a mistake, it is a symptom of an attitude that renders victims invisible, spares perpetrators and thus fuels anti-Semitism.
Anyone who, after 7 Oct, is still unwilling to clearly label Hamas as a terrorist organisation is not standing neutrally between the fronts, but on the wrong side of history.
The BBC cited its editorial guidelines, according to which the word ‘terrorist’ may only be used in the form of attribution or quotations. The term ‘terrorist group’ is therefore also inadmissible. But this supposedly ‘neutral’ rule turns reality on its head: it does not protect journalistic balance, but obscures the character of an organisation that committed the largest anti-Semitic massacre since the Shoah on 7 Oct 2023.
Those who do not call Hamas terrorism convey to the public that the killing of civilians, the abduction of hostages and the systematic violence against women and children is not clearly identifiable terrorism, but merely a ‘controversial’ act in the context of a conflict. This spares the perpetrators and mocks the victims.
The consequences are dire. Since 7 Oct, anti-Semitic attacks in the UK have increased massively. In precisely this situation, the BBC is sending out the message that Jewish suffering must not be clearly named because it allegedly undermines ‘neutrality’. But neutrality towards terror is not a virtue, but a moral bankruptcy.
The BBC is thus contributing to the normalisation of anti-Semitic narratives. It removes the stigma of Hamas as a terrorist organisation and places its murders in the realm of ‘politically debatable actions’. In doing so, the broadcaster indirectly legitimises the murder of Jews and promotes an atmosphere in which anti-Semitic violence becomes socially acceptable.
The media are not just chroniclers; they shape perceptions. A global broadcaster like the BBC bears responsibility for the words it chooses. When terrorism is concealed or relativised, it strengthens those voices that demonise Israel and glorify violence against Jews as ‘resistance’.
The reprimand against the presenter is therefore more than a mistake, it is a symptom of an attitude that renders victims invisible, spares perpetrators and thus fuels anti-Semitism.
Anyone who, after 7 Oct, is still unwilling to clearly label Hamas as a terrorist organisation is not standing neutrally between the fronts, but on the wrong side of history.
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Trump Orders Flags to Half-Staff for Charlie Kirk
- By Postvieww
- News & Current Events (Articles Required)
- 312 Replies
Yes it is clear! Ther is no evidence Kirk’s murder was part of any so called “far right “ group. If you have it post it. One of the most relevant conservative voices murdered by a deluded young man calling him a fascist leaves little question as to who he had been listening to. You do the math here, it’s not a hard equation to solve. Just look at the many vile posts and statements from one side of the isle. We all know which one .Oh, it's clear, huh? Tell me, how do you know whether he was far left or a groyper? Hmm? Both groups have long had problems with Kirk and attempted to disrupt his events. The groypers even waged a "Groyper War" against TPUSA in 2019.
These links are all from before Kirk's murder, so they're not attempts to redirect blame:
The 'groyper army' is looking to make white nationalism mainstream. It has key allies in Arizona politics.
“Dear Groyper army, please hit Ron Watkins. Love, Wendy,” a post by Flagstaff Republican Wendy Rogers said on Telegram, the encrypted messaging app that has become a haven for far-right politics and extremists.azmirror.com
What to make of the Groyper Wars - Overland literary journal
Groyperism represents a new strategy, one that harks back to the original breakthrough of the alt-right.overland.org.au
A ‘Groyper War’ struggles to exert influence but paves the way for other bad actors
White nationalist Nicholas Fuentes and his fanbase pressured Trump’s 2024 campaign with online propaganda, likely violating platform policies without facing any action against them.www.isdglobal.org
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