The Barbarian said:

Looks like the shooter was angry at Kirk for not being far enough on the right. His mom's posts on social media were quickly removed, but showed an interest in guns and rightwing politics.

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That must be why he wrote “Hey, Fascist! Catch!” On the bullet casing. Because it is such a right wing thing to say.

1Tonne said:

Just saw this. It may give you a better understanding. It's a good vid

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Since this the second time you've quoted my post, it most be something that is making you think. I have no desire to condemn your evangelical work and in fact I applaud it. All I am suggesting is that perhaps you consider, that it isn't the path for everyone. Please pray before you respond; this isn't an argument you need to "win", just hoping you may consider that the body has many unique talents and needs. Again let me say that the work you do spreading the word of our Lord is commendable and a valuable addition to the body of Christ. I mean you no disrespect or feel it is something that should divide us. God Bless.

Servus said:

For what?

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Accusing Democrats of being responsible for Kirk's murder

The Barbarian said:

Looks like the shooter was angry at Kirk for not being far enough on the right. His mom's posts on social media were quickly removed, but showed an interest in guns and rightwing politics.

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The kid is a leftist. The messages he wrote on the bullet casings show that.

The Barbarian said:

In the very statement you quoted, I said:

And it doesn't matter whether it's left or right; violence is not acceptable.

I just told you the opposite of what you claim I said. Why would you say something that's so obviously false? C'mon.

Good question. Let's take a look...

Trump’s Epstein problem is real: New poll shows many in his base disapprove of his handling of the files, and some supporters are having second thoughts about electing him​

Trump’s Epstein problem is real: New poll shows many in his base disapprove of his handling of the files, and some supporters are having second thoughts about electing him

The MAGA base is not happy. Trump’s handling of the Epstein controversy has done significant damage to his standing, particularly among his core supporters.

theconversation.com

63% Of Voters Disapprove Of The Trump Administration's Handling Of The Jeffrey Epstein Files, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds​

63% Of Voters Disapprove Of The Trump Administration's Handling Of The Jeffrey Epstein Files, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Nearly Half Of Voters Would Consider Joining A Third Party, Just Not One Created By Elon Musk | Quinnipiac Univer

“Epstein has been dead and gone for years but his tawdry legacy looms large in a country wanting to know more about who he knew and whether secrets have been buried with him,” said Quinnipiac University Polling Analyst Tim Malloy.

poll.qu.edu

The answer is: "most Americans."

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I just figured that since you completely ignored what I said and attributed the same lie about Charlie Kirk a second time that I already corrected you about, that meant it was OK to lie. Sorry if I misread your cues.

Disliking the way the Trump administration handled the Epstein files case is different from caring about it. I dislike the way it was handled, but in the long run, compared to everything else that is going on, I don’t really care. And I know the left doesn’t really care, either, because Biden had those files for years and no mention of them was made by the left. And when Trump did speak about the child trafficking and child sex trafficking crisis the left’s only comment was that it was all a hoax. Trump was making it all up. The only interest they have in them now is that they are holding onto hope that Trumps name is in there in some compromising nature.

1Tonne said:

So yes, support is valuable, but it’s not a replacement for personal obedience to Christ’s command to make disciples.

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Making disciples is much more than introducing folks to Christ - it is a much greater commitment to encourage growth long term. This is a 'body' ministry actually.

Olaf Presents

Hentenza said:

He doesn’t look like a killer either but you are probably right.

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What do killers look like?

boughtwithaprice said:

Once again, you don’t specify.

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#613
I think you missed this.

Looks like the shooter was angry at Kirk for not being far enough on the right. His mom's posts on social media were quickly removed, but showed an interest in guns and rightwing politics.

iluvatar5150 said:

MAGAdonians sure do love handing over their cash to millionaires, don’t they?

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You have a problem with people donating to Turning Point USA in memorial of Charlie Kirk?

JosephZ said:

“I think with a high degree of certainty we have him in custody,” Trump said during an appearance on Fox News.

Trump said that someone “very close to him turned him in” and said that it would be announced later Friday.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/12/politics/trump-charlie-kirk

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Not announced in two weeks?

rambot said:

I find it to be neither. There was just a prayer before them

What is the purpose of a second one?

Or was the second prayer for all the children who've been shot in schools ove the 3 last couple weeks...

Fingers crossed maybe yes!?


Naaaaaah....

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Prayers for those kids have been expressed multiple times. Why does it look like you appear to have problems with multiple people in public praying for Charlie Kirk?

Dan Perez said:

And which Book of LIFE do you mean ??

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There is only one Book of Life. To be opened after the Millennium. Daniel 7:9-10

Please do not add to the copy of my post.
Your style and attitude is like you know it all and those who disagree are a lower form of life. Try to post in a more rational and normal manner.

Vorixia said:

I hope everyone's doing well

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Welcome.

Bradskii said:

I've nothing to add.

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The evidence doesn't support that:

Bradskii said:

Really?

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Yes.

Bradskii said:

From here: Bondi Reveals ‘Disturbing Facts’ About Dem Darling Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s Human Trafficking Scheme

“On May 21st, a grand jury in the Middle District of Tennessee returned a sealed indictment, charging Abrego Garcia with alien smuggling and conspiracy to commit alien smuggling,” Bondi said. “Our government presented El Salvador with an arrest warrant, and they agreed to return him to our country. We’re grateful to President Bukele for agreeing to return him to our country to face these very serious charges.”

Now, Bondi says, there is no longer any doubt that Abrego Garcia was a criminal.'

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Thanks for providing verification of my statement.

Bradskii said:

you consider this justice

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We've already covered this. Is there anything else you would like to add?

Gregory Thompson said:

Some people don't know when their sin is sin. Even bible interpretations can be sinful, and devotion can become an obsession or idol. Overcoming these things comes from maturity. Since God meets us where we are at, people accept that and move from there.

Everyone is a work in progress.

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I agree that many don’t even realise their sin until God’s law exposes it, that’s why evangelism often starts with the law, so people see their need for Christ.
And yes, we are all a work in progress. But being a ‘work in progress’ doesn’t excuse silence. Look at the woman at the well: she had no theological training, no years of maturity, and she was still living in sin, yet she immediately went and told others about the Messiah.
So, I do find it strange that many who’ve been Christians for years rarely share the Gospel. That doesn’t look like ‘progress’ at all; it looks like neglect. The Spirit doesn’t wait until we’re perfect to use us, He uses those who are willing to obey and open their mouths. That willingness includes turning from sin, responding to His conviction, and trusting Him to work through our weakness.

Carl Emerson said:

Yes we should be ready to give an account of our faith.

As to evangelism - in deliberately going out to preach - a fruitful ministry will need the support of others who may not themselves be 'going out'

I have a little experience in this area - we used to always have folks back at base praying in behind.

We also would always break bread together before departing.

Often there would come 'word of knowledge' about the persons we would meet who were ripe for the gospel.

There was nothing scary about it - in fact the peace of Christ is often what attracts the unsaved.

We used to call it Guerrilla evangelism.

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Absolutely, supporting those who go out to preach is important, and prayer, fellowship, and intercession are vital parts of evangelism. That said, supporting others doesn’t excuse staying completely silent about the Gospel.
Every believer has the responsibility to share in some way, even if it’s just with those they already know. Not everyone is called to street preaching or full-time missions, but everyone can speak a word of hope, encouragement, or the good news of Christ to someone in their sphere of influence.
So yes, support is valuable, but it’s not a replacement for personal obedience to Christ’s command to make disciples. Being “in the background” shouldn’t mean never opening your mouth. I feel that some believers may hide behind the guise of 'support' or 'prayer', and some may even hide behind the guise of the pulpit.

"We need to pray for our nation like never before, and then put legs to our prayers and preach the gospel. To pray for the lost and at the same time ignore that command to preach the gospel to every creature, is nothing but empty hypocrisy. It is to honour God with our lips and have cold hearts that are far from Him. May He give us a love that moves us from the pews into the streets, and from our homes into our universities. God save us from the cozy comfort of lukewarm contemporary Christianity." Ray Comfort