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Again you are picking out verses and using them to support your belief.

John 15:16 is part of Jesus addressing the 11 disciples. So yes Jesus did choose these 11 disciples to bring the message of eternal life in Jesus, to the world.

Acts 13:48 When seen in the Greek it reads. like it is being stated, the ones who believed were appointed to eternal life.

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Again? This is the first time I’ve responded to you.

Are you suggesting that Jesus’ words to the disciples are not applicable to us?

And just because those words are in that order doesn’t mean they make sense in that order. It is clear that the second part “as many as were appointed to life eternal” is a descriptive of the preceding part of the statement “Hearing [it] then the Gentiles were rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord and believing”. Nowhere does it say that as many as believed were appointed to eternal life. I have done a study of this verse, also, because the church I used to attend turned this verse around like you are trying to do to support their own theology.

The existence of The Bible is proof that man can seek God, because that was the reason there is now a Bible. That man may read it and seek God and find out how to receive eternal life, by belief in Jesus . Which is recorded in the pages of The Bible.

Many people have picked up a Bible and read The Gospel of John and because of The Gospel of John's message of life by belief in Jesus. Have become pernamnet born again children of God, when they believed in Jesus for Eternal Life.

perplexed said:

I am very grateful that in the past (before the horribly pathetic current Democrats and Republicans) America demonstrated that a non-feudal society could be successful, Not perfect but much better than the more utopian efforts failed miserably.

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...Then all of a sudden, the left identified itself as British. Now the democrats advocate for everything British, such as a ban on guns, universal Healthcare, increased social programs, limitations on free speech, government intervention in the economy in regards to economic inequality, and overwhelming support for LGBTQ "rights" such as forcing people to use certain pronouns against their will.

I would say, that Britain actually still has an invisible hand that controls a demographic section of the United States, and that Britain still sees the United States as it's own, and that this British derived dilemma is what is destroying the United States from within, by dismantling our unique identity, and turning us more Britishesque.

No one may come to Christ without God's power reaching into our hearts. But we have free will to reject His drawing love.

KT

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According to many of her senior classmates here at Waunakee High School in Wisconsin, 18-year-old Molly Schafer was a loner. But before graduation, she leaned on her artistic skills to reconnect and learned an important lesson in the process. Steve Hartman has the story "On the Road."

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I have to admit, that brought a tear to my eyes...
KT

Obviously I hate Lucifer.

VIUS

FireDragon76 said:

I don't necessarily see the Ten Commandments being obsolete, merely relativized. I don't see Jesus as being antimonian in the usual sense it is understood, nor do I think that's the point of the NT's epistles, either. Rules are good, but sometimes some rules are more important than others, and sometimes rules even have to be broken. That is how (spiritually) mature and healthy people deal with reality. They don't put their ideals ahead of concrete human relationships and growth.

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Then you have not read 2Cor3:6-11.

A New Dawn said:

Not true. It’s reproducible enough somewhere on the internet that google’s AI can create a summation about it. And short of looking through hours of video clips to find the ones I’ve heard, which verify google’s AI summation, I’m going with that. But I understand that you are skeptical of it.

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Look, let's put aside the question of whether or not your figures are correct. I'll admit, refusing to substantiate claims is a pet peeve of mine. I'll even concede the point, for the sake of argument, though the Supreme Court did reverse the lower court order.

Let's call President Biden's refusal to reinstate the remain in Mexico policy as executive branch overreach. How does President Biden's overreach compare to Trump's? One was refusing to follow a policy seen as harmful to the asylum seekers, the other is denying due process and shipping people off to foreign prisons based solely on accusations of criminal activity, which were never proven. (And that's not the only example of overreach, but let's go with it for now.)

Which overreach poses more danger, overall?

‐- A2SG, and which one creeps more toward authoritarianism....

fhansen said:

Why??? Does simply doing what one is supposed to do anyway somehow equate to boasting? Or ensure that the person will boast? There's no reason whatsoever to presume that.

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Human nature. As I stated you see it in your church and I see it in mine. People just like to boast. Also, Paul tells us that the works we are supposed to to do are those prepared beforehand by God so that we could walk in them. Do you know what works are those?

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Man does not forfeit or lose his freedom at justification. And this means that he can still refuse to do the will of God at any point. If man remains in submssion to Him, he will produce much fruit. So we can easily reconcile such verses as the following with Eph 2:8-10:

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There is no reason to reconcile Eph. 2:8-10 unless you simply don’t believe it. According to Paul we, those that have been given eternal life by the grace of God through faith, are created in Christ for good works. This subset of people, the believers, the sheep that no one will snatch from His hand, will do good works because it is natural. There is no forfeit or loss of freedom. God can soften or harden the hearts of the people according to His plan.

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"To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life." Rom 2:7

"Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation—but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live." Rom 8:12-13

"Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord." Heb 12:14

With Christ I can do all things, with the Holy Spirit I can do all things, with God nothing is impossible.

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Totally agree.

fhansen said:

The new covenant is first and foremost about our coming to be with God. That's why Jesus came, to accomplish reconciliation between man and God.

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Actually is God coming to be with us as He sent His only Son to become man and die for our sins.

fhansen said:

Anyway, Scripture contains both carrots and sticks, encouragements/exhortations and admonishments/warnings. We have to take them all into account, ignoring none.

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Right. All In context.

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Those who hear HIs words and persevere in putting them into practice (Matt 7) will end up being His sheep. And then, in the end, is when we'll know with perfect certainty if we were among that number He spoke of.

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I Paul expands the teaching in Mat. 7 to explain the following:

“According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each person must be careful how he builds on it. For no one can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, or straw, each one’s work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each one’s work. If anyone’s work which he has built on it remains, he will receive a reward. If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet only so as through fire.”
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Since we are saved by grace through faith and are His workmanship the penalty for building in the wrong foundation is loss of reward not loss of salvation. His sheep hear His voice and are His and no one will snatch them from Him.

public hermit said:

I think that's an unhelpful approach. Firstly, only God can make those kinds of judgments. Secondly, those kinds of judgments create a culture of fear and shame so that people don't feel they can be open and honest about their struggles. A person can be against abortion without taking the further step of condemnation.

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How is it unhelpful? The article quoted stated that these people were Christian, my comment related to the vast number of people that claim to be Christian because they were raised in a Christian household. I am not accusing any specific person, only pointing to a trend that is common in people. And if you want to bring God into it, Jesus did say that many who say Lord, Lord, will not enter the kingdom of God. I don’t even know why they would ask that question to begin with.

CoreyD said:

I understand you are lashing out from the other thread.
However, his is not a meaningful response, as is the case of 95% of your posts.
It simply says, "I am just going to hand wave every post, I don't have a response to."
From your OP, to this point, isn't anything more than worthless human reasoning, simply because you said it.
See yah.

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Lol, its a bunch garbage, thats a meaningful response

I would personally encourage Christians to put their children in Christian schools and do MORE than just put the 10 commandments on the wall.

KT

@A New Dawn

You said “His grace is only sufficient and efficient to cover the sins of His sheep.”

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Yes guided by His Purpose. Grace is Given to some according to purpose 2 Tim 1:9

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

So I am asking if everyone in the world was his sheep, would Christ’s sacrifice be sufficient?

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If its His Purpose. But His Purpose is Election, a Remnant according to Grace. So I dont deal in suppositions and neither does God. So why ask ?

It’s a simple question. Please pay attention.

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I answered it

A New Dawn said:

People only seek God because God has already worked in their hearts. Not every relationship with God starts with a “road to Damascus” experience. The ones that do are awesome, but sometimes God starts with smaller, quieter workings on the heart, and I suppose that many times those people can feel that they are the ones seeking rather than responding to God’s work in them. But the Bible is clear, far beyond Romans 3, that it is God’s work in us, not our own.

1 John 4:19 We love, because He first loved us. Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of [our] faith;
John 15:16 You did not choose Me but I chose you, and appointed you that you would go and bear fruit, and that your fruit would remain, so that whatever you ask of the Father in My name He may give to you.
Acts 13:48 When the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.

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Again you are picking out verses and using them to support your belief.

John 15:16 is part of Jesus addressing the 11 disciples. So yes Jesus did choose these 11 disciples to bring the message of eternal life in Jesus, to the world.

Acts 13:48 When seen in the Greek it reads. like it is being stated, the ones who believed were appointed to eternal life.

No man can come to Christ by his own freewill ability because by nature hes dead in trespasses and sins and without spiritual life and ability to do or act. So consequently he cant come and believe on Christ of himself, or of his own freewill.

All Becomes New said:

To clarify, anything physically wrong with the fetus or the mother. Not talking about subjective experiences of not wanting to be a mother, so it is "harmful" or some nonsense like that.

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There are more things to choice than abortion and it’s really downright disgusting that a procedure that kills an innocent child is being used as birth control. If someone doesn’t want to be a mother, she should do all she can to prevent the act of conception. It’s too doggone easy to get real birth control that nobody should rely on abortion because they were too lazy to get the real thing. The failure of birth control is so minimal, and the pregnancy rate as the result of rape/incest is so minimal, leaving the vast majority of them as birth control.

I do want to be specific that this discussion is regarding elective abortion. Those cases where “the life of the mother is in danger” are almost negligible, in in those rare instances, most can be delivered by cesarean section with less stress to the mother than an actual abortion. Those few cases, like ectopic pregnancies, are not considered elective, but are emergency surgery cases.

In this study, only 11.5% of the women applying for abortion used safe birth control methods, the rest used unsafe methods. It’s not acceptable.

timewerx said:

Ofc, it doesn't think/reason until you ask a question.

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AI doesn't think or reason at any time.

BNR32FAN said:

Oh there’s so many erroneous posts to address here but in respect of the OP I’ll just keep my mouth shut.

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If you really wished to keep your mouth shut, you would not have posted.

You obviously have a viewpoint, but apparently do not think it would be heard. How do you know yours is correct?

I'll call him a EAC instead of a YEC if he wants. It really doesn't matter--both doctrines are equally vacuous and unbiblical.

No kidding, you organize rallies?

RALLI

Apple Sky said:

Could this women repent & still be saved ?

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Yes, of course! Why wouldn't she be able to repent and be saved?

I think she is a Christian right now. I can't know that for sure, but there are many signs of regeneration in her life.

That is what makes this problem so difficult. IDK why she is pro-choice exactly, but it probably has a lot to do with the propaganda she has been fed her whole life.

Strong in Him said:

People have minds, and wills, of their own. We can choose to accept Jesus, listen to God, read his word, pray etc, or not.
God is love - for a definition of love see 1 Corinthians 13:4-7.

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There is common grace, which God shows to His entire creation, but salvation is not common grace. It requires very specific beliefs and actions. God does, indeed, love all of His creation, including humankind, but His love is tightly limited. Hence, He does not entangle Himself in the results of sin - sickness, pain, death, woe, etc., except for very rare miracles, which are the exception rather than the rule of His love.

Colossians tells us to do everything in the name of the Lord

How does a person buy groceries in the name of the Lord?

Kathleen30 said:

Broughtwithaprice. Again we are sealed unto the day of redemption. Full redemption occurs when we recieve out resurrection bodies who can break that promise. Not you nor other religion claiming they can break the seal of God View attachment 367099 You say that God does not force his will upon us. Yet scripture says the opposite God does certainly force himself on whomever he chooses View attachment 367100you say there is no excuse for a believing Christian to sin. Yet it happens to every Christian on a daily basis. It is inexcusable to say that we do not . Whilst we inherit our fallen nature we will continue to sin. Broughtwithaperice until cometh that perfect day. The resurrection when sin will entertain us no more. We are in a transitional period. The sin nature is only temporary for those saved in Christ while we remain in our sinful fallen nature. You again mention Calvinism. All Calvinism ever done was restore the Sovereignty of God in having to right to choose and going back to roots of the Bible for such authority and along with such notable church fathers as St Augustine who believed much the same . But you continue to ignore St Augustine. Because what you teach was not always the teaching of the church that being your claim that a believer can lose their salvation. But you may continue to believe as you please.

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You misunderstand the scriptures and Saint Augustine. There is no scripture that says God forces His will upon us. It is the opposite.
In the Apocolalypse(Revelation) we read the Spirit and the Bride say come. Whosoever will come drink of the waters of life freely.

You need to read St Augustine again, or if you have not, then actually read his writings and not take quotes apart from the whole.
Are you familiar with the heresy of Jansenism?
It is a good study of history if you would take the time to read it.

Scripture also tells us in apocalypse 3, Behold I stand at the door and knock. If any man open the door I will come in and he will sup with me and I with him. There is no mention of God forcing His will upon us. He waits for consent
He did not even force His will upon Mary, though He greatly desired to save us through her. He waited for her consent and Our Lady said, behold the handmaid of the Lord, be it done to me according to thy word.

The teaching of the Church is that there is mortal and venial sin. All sin is without excuse, yet scripture says that those that commit mortal sin should not think they have any inheritance in the kingdom of God. We are to live circumspect lives and mortify the deeds of our flesh.
The Church teaches us to detach our hearts from material things and the esteem of the the world, as friendship with the world is enmity with God. If we neglect that duty and continue on thinking because we merely believe in Jesus we need not change, how can we think that we are following in His footsteps?
Scripture tells us that there is a class of people that think they are saved but are not. How do we know who they are and we are not one of them.
Scripture says to strive to make your calling and election sure. We do that through humility, obedience and well doing.
All of those are works which some say that we do not have to worry about. Scripture says otherwise. Jesus tells us to walk the narrow way, enter the straight gate. In Acts we read that it is only through much hardship that we enter into life. The spiritual battle requires continual self denial.
It would be horrific to live a life thinking we are saved, yet when we appear before Jesus, He says I never knew you, away from me ye that commit iniquity. Jesus does not save sin. He saves sinners. Sinners are saved unto good works. Good works are hard as they do not feel good, but we do them out of obedience to the word of truth

As you say, you are free to believe as you wish, but if you are not mortifying your flesh, you risk Jesus saying, I never knew you