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Mass Shooting at Annunciation Catholic Church/School in Minneapolis

I am all or nothing type you save as many as you can or NONE at all.
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I guess paramedics and doctors and nurses should give up and let all the saveible people die as well as the saveible child shooter victims?
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6,000 Years?

Do you find it a coincidence that recorded History is ~5500 years old? That’s about what you would expect if Creation was ~6000 years ago. That’s not silly.
Except that it is not. We have visual and archaeological records much older than that. Even Egyptian and Sumerian records record dates further back and paintings preserved in caves record events in the 15K year range. Gobekli tepe is around 11,000 years old.
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The End Time Puzzle

False Christs, and false prophets – another piece of the end time puzzle. - „For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before.“ (LORD Jesus Christ quoted in Mattew 24: 24,25 KJV) - „For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.“ (Ephesians 6: 12 KJV) Many ancient myths vaguely hint that the spiritual forces of wickedness originate from the planet Mars – where the rebellion against the heavenly order; sin, originated. These forces opposed to the Creators, through a system of pyramids, sow their thoughts and influence the minds of people, pushing the world towards constant Evil. The Torah (specifically the Book of Judges 5: 23) does not mention Meroz as a planet, but the Babylonian Talmud: – „This star, which did not help the Jewish people, was cursed.“ (see „Babylonian Talmud“, „Moed Katan“, 16a) presents the opinion that Meroz is a star or planet with inhabitants who failed to aid the Israelites in battle. This interpretation stems from the preceding verse (see Judges 5: 20), where Deborah mentions the stars fighting, leading the Talmudic commentators to identify Meroz as a specific celestial body involved in the conflict. According to one opinion within the Talmud, Meroz is not a geographical location but a star or a planet. The Talmudic interpretation thus suggests that the inhabitants of Meroz are either metaphorical (representing a lack of action by a people on Earth) or literal, implying beings from another planet or celestial body. This interpretation connects the „heavenly fight“ mentioned in verse 20 with the lack of aid from Meroz, making Meroz a celestial body that refused to participate in the battle. The syllable „M*R“, where it occurs in the name of a deity in ancient myths, is usually in connection with the planet Mars. It seems that behind all the human rulers of the world stand the unearthly forces of Evil, the former inhabitants of the planet Mars - the true spiritual enemies of Christians! Do the ultra-rich Judeo-Zionists, freemasons and leaders of the secret societies who rule this world know that they serve Lucifer – the Lord of the Red Planet, whose ultimate goal is the complete destruction of life on planet Earth? Satan wants to kill planet Earth by stealing the „water of life“ from our world in order to revive his planet – the destroyed Mars – with this cosmic life energy! - „And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.“ (2 Thessalonians 2: 8-12 KJV). The spiritual forces of wickedness from Mars will reveal themselves, and will try with words and great miracles to deceive people that they are the ancients, the gods who saved the world in the past. The rebels from Mars will fully support the Judeo-Zionists who have never believed and accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as the God-chosen and legitimate rulers of the Earth. But the Christians will not believe this Lie. This rebellious star, which at the end of time will help Jewish Zionism against Christianity (to kill the faithful of Jesus Christ), will be cursed again. - „But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.“ (Galatians 1: 8,9 KJV).
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The Return of My Ex Nihilo Challenge

Here's my stance on that:

Where your concordance* differs from the King James, your concordance is wrong.

* Interesting that you capitalized it.
Sorry, how so? The KJV is in English. The concordance is explaining the Hebrew word from which the KJV word "heavens' was translated. Sorry, I don't know why I used a capital C for concordance. That wasn't intentional.
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A conversation about unity.

That's just bad reasoning!

PS: if you do not want to participate then stop posting in this thread - those who do want to participate can continue and you need never trouble yourself again, Okay?
So instead of being a thread about unity it is a bull horn for you to spout your Catholic beliefs…..I see.
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A conversation about unity.

All Christians are part of Christ's Catholic Church. Some simply lack the fullness of the faith.
All Christians are part of the church universal (adjective) of which the Catholic (noun) church is also a part. All Christian churches of orthodox beliefs have the fullness of faith given by our faith in our Savior.
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Trump team has fined immigrants who didn’t self-deport $6 billion — and now it’s coming to collect

Good helpful comments for the end of the Trump's first term. But the situation has drastically changed. First, Democrats had a poor record on immigration, many potential immigrants were persecuted in Southeast Asia, some had fought with Americans, and Democrats insisted communist governments, in SE Asia and elsewhere were not persecuting them at all. Many potential immigrants died because of the liberals and establishment Republicans that went along with this. During the last four years Democrats were outspoken about wanting immigrants to pick the crops, etc. But what became obvious was that some Democrat leaders were anxious to bring in as many as possible in order to win future elections, no matter how many drugs, rapes, murders, and human trafficking occurred. Despite the big money and major media propaganda, a number of liberals realized that they had been lied to about the border being safe, secure, and closed, as well as other matters, and that was the biggest factor in Trump's victory. Good for them for speaking up. Leaders in power realized they might lose the election,, and raided the home of the leading political candidate for president and persecuted him in court in order to try and prevent him from winning. They even created a fake photo of documents in order to trick the American people. Despite their power and money and influence, Trump won. But now we are overwhelmed with 20 million people, many of whom are not those who love the ideals upon which our country was founded A number are violent criminals and terrorists. The two million or so who have so far self-deported will be given a chance, those who have contempt for our laws do not belong here.
Thanks for your kind response. I would only add that I think the criminals are the least likely to self deport. They have little to lose except maybe a stay in detention.

The typical illegal has a chance to return but that chance is only on paper. For most the practical chance of immigrating back legally is next to zero. First, the law says they must wait at least three years. Even if they were kids brought here illegally, this minimum three year wait applies. If they were here a year or more than it goes to ten years. Those who are illegal a second time and caught are forever banned. The problem that most immigrants have is that they have to show money or income. Well the income levels in Mexico and the other poor places are not going to cut it and since they do not have jobs in the USA, the only ones with a chance are those who get sponsors. Most will need family members also to have a chance. I know foreigners that have family members that can not even get a visa to visit America. One whose sister is an engineer in Chicago, making great money has been denied two times already. She is no criminal has traveled to the EU and back before, but the USA is untouchable to her. I think the bar to legal immigration seems higher than the past. Some nations have a wait time of even two years to get an interview.

Since there is no path to immigrate for an illegal inside the USA, I think it is unfair to say that democrats brought them here to vote. Very few get registered and even fewer vote. i am not saying illegal voting is nil, but it is negligible from the good research i have read. https://www.cato.org/blog/shedding-light-incidence-illegal-noncitizen-voting. Most want to lay low and trying to sign up to vote or actually go to the polls is sticking their neck out even with Biden. I still prefer the theme that many of the leaders allowed a weak border and lack of enforcement so that America would be more global ready or to exploit the cheap labor.

i agree Trump did get persecuted. Sadly, he too is a perpetrator. His role in trying to influence Georgia election officials or even ask Pence not to certify the election was in poor judgment. Recent evidence too is the whitewashing of the Epstein files, the raid on Bolton's home, the crazy notion of sending anyone to Uganda, and the attempt to fire or deport someone before a trial or a defense can be presented. Sad, but that is how politics is working these days.

I hear alot about illegals, that some indeed to take public money in the form of government assistance than they pay in taxes. Some do commit crimes, some do not have American values. But likewise there are some who do pay more taxes than they take out, some do perform well at their jobs, and some do adopt American culture, even if it hard to define. The fix is not to throw everyone out, but perhaps to segregate the illegals and try to accommodate the more productive ones.
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Mass Shooting at Annunciation Catholic Church/School in Minneapolis

In California below are the features of assault-style weapons:
A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of the following:
  • A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
  • A thumbhole stock.
  • A folding or telescoping stock.
  • A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
  • A flash suppressor.
  • A forward pistol grip.
A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.
A semiautomatic pistol that does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of the following:
  • A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
  • A second handgrip.
  • A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer's hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
  • The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.
Magazines on all guns are limited to 10 rounds.
CA gun owners responded with mod-kits to comply with the CA regs. The modified weapons are still capable in the hands of a maniac to do significant harm. See: 2020 Ultimate Guide to Compliant Featureless AR-15 Rifles

The problem imo is not micromanaging the weapon's configuration but managing the maniacs.
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Anyone up for a chat thread?

Heck, here they want to see a police check before they let you in the door.
The irony is that most of the pedophile priests and others whose offences caused this pervasive ID checking would have passed police checks with flying colours, until they got caught.
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How the Sacraments Make Us Like Jesus…and Make Us into Sacraments Ourselves

6,000 Years?

However long a "day" as before there was a sun to provide a refererence point.

Years of indeterminate length.

Unfortunately, the Word of God doesn't provide technical data.
You do realize that God himself said creation took 6 days when he gave the Israelites the 10 Commandments. Just a heads up…might not be a good idea to teach others it wasn’t 6 days if that’s what God directly said.
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