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Is This The New Normal?

Who’s y’all? We are a democracy. You call it a republic? That’s a democracy. We don’t need to change anything to be a democracy. We already are one.


That’s got nothing to do with whether a republic is a form of democracy or not. First, that doesn’t make him illegitimate, it makes him unpopular. Second, an electoral college doesn’t mean our system isn’t democratic. That’s just an extra step within the democratic process of this country. The power of the state is still vested in We the People. That’s what makes this republic a democracy.

We the People rule ourselves. That’s what makes this a democracy.


No, it wouldn’t because we’re already there. If we change nothing this is already a democratic system of governance.


I don’t know where you got this idea that only a majority rule is the definition of democratic government. The definition of democratic governance is that the people in charge only rule by the consent of the governed.
Y’all don’t seem to recognize that most of what I said is what is said by the leftist leaders. How many states have tried to create laws to skirt the electoral college? How many times did Hillary Clinton go on stage and say that Trump is an illegitimate president? And getting rid of the electoral college would change everything since four states would determine the outcome of the election for the entire nation. It removes any concerns for the needs of the the vast majority of the nation by catering to the whims of the woke megacities. I know that’s what everyone on the left wants, but that is why we have an electoral college, so the voices of the whole nation are heard.
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Pray The Holy Spirit encourages more respect & sensitivity between the male and female sexes/genders

In the article associated with the following link, it says that in today's modern secular music, female singers and male singers are harshly insulting each other:

Why female pop stars are lambasting mediocre men

Judging by her lyrics, Sabrina Carpenter (pictured) has mixed feelings towards men. She finds her paramours attractive, exciting—and disappointing. In “Manchild”, the lead single on her new album, she complains her lover is “stupid”, “slow” and “useless”. She asks, mocking a caveman, “Why so sexy if so dumb? / And how survive the Earth so long?”

“Manchild” is not the only track on the record to lambast mediocre men: time and again Ms Carpenter takes aim at blokes who can barely “do the dishes” or “assemble a chair from IKEA”. The American pop star suggests her beaux are dumb, as when, in “Sugar Talking”, she says: “You’re having these epiphanies, big word for a real small mind.” Some do not understand basic grammar. In “Slim Pickins”, a hit from last year, she complains about a man who “doesn’t even know the difference between there, their and they are”.

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Men are pushing back, at least musically. In August the top album on the Billboard 200 chart was “I’m the Problem” by Morgan Wallen, an American country singer. “If I’m so awful,” he sings, “then why’d you stick around this long?”

It's Not merely fun-loving teasing. When people ( especially young adults, teenagers & kids ) listen to the aforementioned songs, opposite sexes subconsciously learn to mistreat each, and disrespect each other. This is what leads to marriages breaking up.

( Important Side Note: Nowadays, we have to be concerned about people listening to modern music that has lyrics with inappropriate sexually-related lustful words and phrases, but we also have to be concerned about the aforementioned. It's becoming a complex, scary & frightening world ).

There is Nothing wrong with fun-loving teasing between men & women, & even a civil healthy debate about the role of men vs women in society. However, it's bad if it turns into extreme disrespect and/or abuse. Pray The Holy Spirit encourages more respect & sensitivity between the male and female sexes/genders:

Progressive Covenentalism

The olive tree as a metaphor for Israel speaks to God's faithfulness to His promises and the unity of all believers—both Jewish and Gentile—in Christ. Gentiles are grafted into the "olive tree" of Israel, which represents God's people. This means that believing Gentiles become part of the spiritual family of Abraham, sharing in the blessings promised to Israel. A "remnant" of Israel, those who believe in Jesus as the Messiah, remains on the tree , showing that God has not abandoned his people. Paul explains this in Romans 11, emphasizing that God's plan includes both Jews and Gentiles and that the "natural branches" (unbelieving Jews) can be grafted back in. " And thus all Israel will be saved" are his words. This is the Church which supersedes Israel.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

I think the olive tree is comprised of all of God's faithful people. The natural branches are faithful Christian Israelites/Jews, and the wild branches are faithful Christian non-Israelites/Jews.

Hebrews 11:25 choosing rather to share ill-treatment with the people of God than to enjoy the fleeting pleasures of sin.
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ICE Launches Operation Midway Blitz in Honor of Katie Abraham to Target Criminal Illegal Aliens Terrorizing Americans in Sanctuary Illinois

They are't "Begging"...they are just "there".

They can get picked up because they are there.... That's it.

They can get picked up looking spanish waiting for the bus.
Wrong! They get picked up because a cop sees probable cause to investigate. Then when nobody can provide any documentation, or proof of identity, THEN they are picked up. And this nonsense about getting "picked up" by looking Spanish at a buss stop? Please spare they hyperbole.
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Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

While my kids don't, For almost a decade I worked with EXACTLY those kids.

Those kids didn't get addicted to drugs because a Columbian cartel. They got addicted because their parents were garbage and they had no community around them.

There are drug production labs in the US. You might not believe it but I wouldn't be a fan of the wholesale bombing of their drug labs either. I'd rather they were caught, arrested, tried and imprisoned to rot.
Poor poor drug dealers. Their only fault was providing the poisons to those troubled teens because they had horrible parents.
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ICE Launches Operation Midway Blitz in Honor of Katie Abraham to Target Criminal Illegal Aliens Terrorizing Americans in Sanctuary Illinois

Surprise. But not surprised. What you said, what not what Kavenough said. What he was was, "use some common sense! If they cannot speak English and are trying to look for jobs that are paid under the table, statistically, they are undoubtedly in the country illegally and is enough probable cause to investigate. I mean, really? We require less for identifying sex trafficked women at clubs. Any military person who has ever done a CBT on human trafficking can tell when the woman giving them a back massage is being used as a sex slave. So please explain in what scenario, other than some random tourist trying to cosplay as an illegal immigrant, would someone be hanging out at a Home Depot parking lot begging to roof your home, cas only, and cannot speak a single word in English? Please! I beg you! Explain!
They are't "Begging"...they are just "there".

They can get picked up because they are there.... That's it.

They can get picked up looking spanish waiting for the bus.
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World Cup in the US?

The USA is going to have a HUGE and Big time increase in tourism due to the 2026 World Cup. We are also going to see that happen for the 2028 Summer Olympics.
So you believe the current trend of lower tourism is going to reverse? What do you think will happen that will cause the reverse?

Do you believe the stories of tourists getting held on flimsy bases are going to become not only less common but just not happenning at all?


LAstly, out of curiousity, do you think average citizens of other countries have a favourable view of America and trust their institutions?
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ICE Launches Operation Midway Blitz in Honor of Katie Abraham to Target Criminal Illegal Aliens Terrorizing Americans in Sanctuary Illinois

Surprise. But not surprised. What you said, what not what Kavenough said. What he was was, "use some common sense! If they cannot speak English and are trying to look for jobs that are paid under the table, statistically, they are undoubtedly in the country illegally and is enough probable cause to investigate. I mean, really? We require less for identifying sex trafficked women at clubs. Any military person who has ever done a CBT on human trafficking can tell when the woman giving them a back massage is being used as a sex slave. So please explain in what scenario, other than some random tourist trying to cosplay as an illegal immigrant, would someone be hanging out at a Home Depot parking lot begging to roof your home, cash only, and cannot speak a single word in English? Please! I beg you! Explain!
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Progressive Covenentalism

This is not correct. Only those Messianic Jews now; will be saved. The rest will be destroyed. Isaiah 6:11-15, Isaiah 22:14, Amos 2:4-5, +

The idea of a Jewish redemption before Jesus Returns, is a part of the false rapture to heaven theory. Neither is prophesied in the Bible.
Until Jesus returns at the end of time, some Jews will still choose to convert to Christianity.

Romans 11:5-6 So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace. 6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace.

Romans 11:24-26 For if you have been cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these natural branches be grafted back into their own olive tree.
25 Lest you be wise in your own conceits, I want you to understand this mystery, brethren: a hardening has come upon part of Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles come in, 26 and so all Israel will be saved; as it is written,
“The Deliverer will come from Zion,
he will banish ungodliness from Jacob”;
27 “and this will be my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”
28 As regards the gospel they are enemies of God, for your sake; but as regards election they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers.
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Israel-Hamas Thread II

a peace vessel

A flotilla full of hate activists attempts to break through Israel's blockade, not to help, but to cause harm.

In Israel, the voyage is clearly seen as a political provocation. Legally, Israel's position is covered by international law and is recognised by the UN as a legitimate security measure. Israel therefore has every right to defend itself, even against PR boats with supposed ‘celebrities’ on board.

In other news a drone attack was launched at a peace vessel bound for Gaza which wasn't caused by a discarded cigarette!

They said that one of its main boats was struck by a drone at a port in Tunisia, though all six passengers and crew were safe. Tunisia's interior ministry said that reports of a drone hitting a boat at its Sidi Bou Said port "have no basis in truth", and that a fire broke out on the vessel itself. Turns out, a crew member set off a firecracker and blamed a “drone.” Another lie added to the long list of "Palestinian" propaganda.

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Here’s the No. 1 fallacy on eternal security

Jesus calls us beyond a mere human love, Matt 5:46-48. It's to a self- sacrificing love,
Kinda' like the self-sacrificing love a mother has for her child. . .

The love to which Jesus calls us is to care about the well-being of our neighbor as we care about our own.

It's not complicated. . .
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Who then can be saved?

It was a question I had about his theology based on his application of Ephesians 2:8. But his posts that I read later confirmed my suspicion, so I dropped my question.

But let me just say that a person's ability to hear and believe God's testimony that he is a sinner in need of a Savior and that Jesus stands ready to rescue him is not a gift that is given to some and witheld from others. This is the reformed view of what the Bible says, of course, but it is not the prevalent view among Christians.
It is most certainly a gift that is given to some and withheld from others. How many times did Jesus say “He that has ears to hear, let him hear”? At least ten times by Jesus and others in the NT, and in the OT it was said six times. So, again, yes, it is a gift that is given to some and withheld from others.
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How is it that the Catholic Church is evil?

Don't confuse mere "traditions" with the Sacred Tradition of the Catholic Church. Sacred Tradition was part of the deposit of the faith passed down from Jesus through the Apostles. A mere tradition might be lighting candles, or the Protestant canon of 66 Bibles which was decided upon over a thousand years after the Catholic Church canon, dropping seven books but using the same order of books decided by the Catholic Church. The early Catholic Church, based upon Sacred Tradition, decided which potential books for the Bible were God-breathed. Since the Catholic Church has been around for almost 2000 years I would not argue that they have more mere traditions, such as putting a cross on top of a church, making the sign of the cross when the name of Jesus is spoken, etc.
I don’t see how “traditions” and “Sacred Traditions” are an important division outside the Roman Church. Believe what you like, but they are traditions just the same. I’m not going to write that traditions are bad. I follow many myself. I’m just writing that the Roman Church seems to have more than some protestant churches. Those Roman traditions disagree with some protestant doctrines. I was just trying to define the problem with “the Roman Church is evil,” which I don’t believe.
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The Criminal Records of the illegal immigrants arrested in LA

IF the rule of law were important to you, they would not be wearing masks.
The rule of law is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to me. The safety of law enforcement officers and their families is also EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to me. But, perhaps not to you.
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Judge's 'promise' let career criminal walk free to butcher Ukrainian refugee after his MOM said he should be locked up

Exactly. You’d have to be a special kind of strange to look up hundreds of videos on racial violence.

~bella
To be fair, the way that the social media rabbit hole works, you wouldn't necessarily have to be explicitly looking them up. Someone watching a lot of right-wing ragebait videos is going to run across a lot of that sort of content, and the more of it you watch, the more the algorithm feeds you. It's incredibly easy for stuff like that to completely take over your feed, and it can really mess with your perception of reality.
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The Criminal Records of the illegal immigrants arrested in LA

I swear to you, if I would have meant to say illegal force I would have done so. You're trying to create a strawman.

I guess you're not great at making comparisons.


ICE agents being unable and/or to deal with their faces and badge numbers being shown. That is not a police force.
If progressive left wing liberal activists would not be doxxing the ICE agents, then the ICE agents would not be wearing masks.
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The fascinating reformed theology paradox of Hebrew 6:4-6

But God is perfect, Matthew 5:48 God is love, 1 John 4:8. God has told us that love does not dishonour others, 1 Corinthians 13:5 and always protects, 1 Corinthians 13:7. He has also told us that he is the Lord and never changes, Malachi 3:6, 1 Samuel 15:29.
To say that God will not do something because it is against his nature, is not judging his ways.
Do you not see that you are applying your human reason/wisdom to God?
Have you studied in the light of the Holy Spirit his word from Ge 1:1 to Bonded Leather to understand him and his ways?
It's saying that you believe him to be who he has revealed himself to be - a Father who won't give his son a scorpion when that son wants fish.
It takes takes more than a verse to undersand God as he has revealed himself in his word written (2 Tim 3:16).

Pardon me for saying so, but your reference points reveal your study is incomplete.
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