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BUSTED - 12 False theories refuted:

The Son of Man will return at an hour when you do not expect him, Matthew 24:44.

You do not expect him to return before certain things have taken place.
Just saying
All the prophesies that say we cannot know the Day, refer to the Lords Day of vengeance and wrath. NOT the glorious Return.
It will be the sudden and shocking Sixth Seal event, which will be a surprise to all.

The Day of the Return will be known, as it will come exactly 1260 days after the Temple is desecrated by the 'beast'. Rev 13:5-6
The great Tribulation of the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls, will take place during that time. Culminating in the 6th & 7th Bowls;- Armageddon.
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Bill Gates Says Climate Change ‘Will Not Lead to Humanity’s Demise’

Well, they were claiming that over a million species would become extinct, and a prominent UN official proclaimed to the Associated Press that: "entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels" by the year 2000.
Yeah, that would be the “entire nations” that exist on islands and coastal areas barely above sea level.

Date aside, is that really such a controversial claim?
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Yehovah God will not send you to Hell!

IF it all applies to everyone, then no specifics are needed.

There is a division required.

The "good stuff" belongs to people. The "bad stuff" to the tempter or his own who also happen to be with everyone.

That's as specific as it needs to be. Anyone can take it from there, if they are so inclined.

OR they can be led into the classic brick wall by their built in opponent
All somewhat interesting but my post #82, from June 2025, above remains unaddressed.
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The Thing Most Sabbath Keepers Do not Talk About.

Yes, I know which was given by Jesus through our love and obedience. Why Jesus said “and I will give you” but its based on conditions why He used If.
You added this part: through our love and obedience. In other words you are tacitly saying it is a wage and not a gift. No one counts what they earn as a gift. Worse still a wage is owed to the worker, so this means that since we loved and obeyed, God owes us the Holy Spirit. We now have leverage over God.
Yes, He is but faith does not void the law, it establishes it Rom3:31
This is beautiful. By having faith in Christ's righteousness he credits His righteousness as our own and we stand before God as perfect law keepers.

Paul concludes his explanation of justification by faith with a surprising question: “Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.” (Romans 3:31). Some might assume that if salvation is by grace and not by our obedience, then God’s law becomes irrelevant. Paul rejects that idea emphatically. Faith does not erase the Law. Faith restores it to its true purpose by tying it directly to the work of Christ.


The Law demands perfect righteousness. Any violation deserves condemnation (Galatians 3:10; James 2:10). If Christ simply forgave sin while the Law remained violated, He would be setting the Law aside to save us. Instead, the gospel declares that Jesus fulfilled the Law on our behalf. He obeyed perfectly (Matthew 5:17–18) and took the Law’s penalty into Himself at the cross (2 Corinthians 5:21). That means forgiveness does not ignore the Law; it honors the Law’s demands fully through Jesus’ finished work (Romans 8:3–4).


Faith unites us with Christ, so His obedience is credited to us as righteousness (Philippians 3:9; Romans 4:5–8). God does not compromise His standards or lower His requirements. He applies Christ’s fulfillment of the Law to believers, upholding the Law’s integrity even while pardoning sinners. The Law is satisfied, not set aside.


More than that, the Law is also established within us. Through the Holy Spirit, God writes His Law on the hearts of His people (Hebrews 8:10). We begin to walk in obedience not to earn salvation but because we have already received it. Paul explains that “the righteous requirement of the law” is fulfilled in those who walk according to the Spirit (Romans 8:4). Faith leads to transformation, not lawlessness. Grace teaches us to reject sin and pursue godliness (Titus 2:11–12).


So Romans 3:31 is a powerful reminder that justification by faith vindicates God’s Law in every way. In Christ we see the Law perfectly obeyed. At the cross we see its penalty fully executed. Through the Spirit we see its righteous principles being lived out in God’s people. Faith does not undermine the Law. Faith finally gives the Law what it has always required: perfect righteousness through Christ, and a people renewed in His image who joyfully walk in His ways.
“Sin is breaking God’s law (1 John 3:4; James 2:11) which is rebellion and unbelief.”
There is truth here. Scripture defines sin as lawlessness (1 John 3:4), and rebellion is at its core (Hebrews 3:13). Yet the biblical solution to law-breaking is not a return to the Law as the basis of righteousness, but a turning to Christ who fulfilled the Law’s requirements for us. Paul teaches that “Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes” (Romans 10:4). Our guilt under the Law is real, but our standing is based entirely on Christ’s obedience, not ours (Philippians 3:9).

“Would loving God with all our heart, mind and soul not include the 4 commandments that God personally wrote… I find it hard to believe they would not be included.”
Love fulfills the whole Law (Matthew 22:37–40), including everything God has ever commanded. The question is not whether the first four commandments express love for God. They do. The real question is how believers in Christ now express this love.
Jesus teaches that love is not about returning to the old covenant tablets but about abiding in Him (John 15:5, 10). Paul says believers are no longer “under the law” yet still fulfill the righteous requirement of the Law by walking in the Spirit (Romans 6:14; Romans 8:4). Faith produces the love that the Law always pointed toward (Galatians 5:6, 14, 22–23).

“He wrote them in stone for its eternal nature and then He writes His laws in our heart (2 Cor 3:3; Heb 8:10).”
Hebrews agrees that God writes His laws on our hearts, but it specifically contrasts the old covenant tablets with a new covenant that is “not like the covenant I made with their fathers” (Hebrews 8:9). The Law written on stone brings condemnation and death, which is why Paul calls it the “ministry of death… engraved in stones” (2 Corinthians 3:7). The same passage says this ministry is “passing away” (v. 11). The “law written on hearts” is a Spirit-empowered life in Christ, not a return to Sinai’s covenant.


“The first 4 commandments show how to love God and the last 6 how we love our neighbor.”
Jesus does teach that love for God and neighbor fulfills the Law, yet He also deepens the commandments far beyond their written form (Matthew 5:21–28). He fulfills them, completes them, and then gives a new commandment: “love one another as I have loved you” (John 13:34). The pattern shifts from stone to Savior.

“I didn’t say we had to overcome sin, Scripture does.”
Scripture indeed calls us to resist sin and pursue holiness (Romans 6:12–14). Yet the power to “overcome” sin comes from Christ, not from the Law. Paul says that “sin will not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace” (Romans 6:14). The Law points out sin, but only grace breaks its chains (Romans 7:7–25).
When Hebrews warns about willful sin (Hebrews 10:26–29), it addresses those rejecting Christ, not those struggling in weakness. The danger is despising the blood of the covenant, not failing to keep commandments perfectly. We are kept by Christ’s priesthood (Hebrews 7:25), not our flawless performance.

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Meeting someone when you're over 30?

It seems like a lot of Christians get married when they're very young so have any of you met someone and started dating when you were over 30?
Christian men, would you start dating a woman in her 30s or even 40s or is that too old for you?
That would depend entirely on the age of the man of course ... :) And it will depend on whether he is looking to start a family.
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The Thing Most Sabbath Keepers Do not Talk About.

I said the Bible doesn't teach a man can't have a fire in his home or take a walk on God's Sabbath. Your 2 verses don't teach that, unless you separate them from the rest of the Bible
“You shall not kindle a fire in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day.””
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭35‬:‭3‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

I don’t understand what part of not to have a fire in ANY dwelling on the Sabbath day do you not understand.


“See, the Lord has given you the Sabbath; for that reason He gives you bread for two days on the sixth day. Remain, everyone, in his place; no one is to leave his place on the seventh day.””
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭16‬:‭29‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Not to leave their place precludes them from going for a walk.

Christians are not under the law so you don’t have to follow the Jewish law. But it does say what it says.
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Is 'once saved always saved' a biblical teaching?

Anyone on this thread want to see a good VERY RELEVANT passage for how to keep in faith, not hear liars about saying you cant lose salvation, or they would have at least a word or two to speak about a whole chapter, wouldn't they.



2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their's also was.
10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
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The Schumer Shutdown

House Speaker: Schumer 'Terrified' of Political Winds


House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., told reporters at the Capitol on Tuesday that Senate Democrat Leader Chuck Schumer D-N.Y., is "terrified" about his political future.

That's why, Johnson claimed, Schumer is continuing to vote against a funding measure to reopen the federal government.

Johnson told reporters at the briefing that it wasn't long ago when Schumer voted in March to support similar stopgap funding and said the potential consequences of a shutdown were worse than the short-term budget option.

What commandments?

John14:15 1 John5:3 Luke23:56 Heb4:4,9-10 etc
None of those are post crucifixion and in some you can’t even prove which commandments so try again.
The days start at evening to evening, yes it was a Saturday night or the beginning of the first day for biblical days. Still doesn't change the context of why they were meeting, or that it deletes one of God's commandments. The apostles met on various days, doesn't mean it starts deleting commandments.
It does change the context. They gathered to worship.
sabaton means sabbath agreed. It could mean the weekly Sabbath or yearly sabbath(s) context tells us what it means. Which Paul did a good job of explaining, but sadly most will gloss over or not read.
You can’t eliminate definitions just because you don’t like them. The context of the verse does not remove the Jewish sabbath.
“... Or of the Sabbath days - Greek, “of the Sabbaths.” The word Sabbath in the Old Testament is applied not only to the seventh day, but to all the days of holy rest that were observed by the Hebrews, and particularly to the beginning and close of their great festivals.
Which is why you cannot discount that Paul is indeed talking about ALL sabbath days including the seventh day sabbath.
There is, doubtless, reference to those days in this place, since the word is used in the plural number, and the apostle does not refer particularly to the Sabbath properly so called. There is no evidence from this passage that he would teach that there was no obligation to observe any holy time, for there is not the slightest reason to believe that he meant to teach that one of the ten commandments had ceased to be binding on mankind. If he had used the word in the singular number - “the Sabbath,” it would then, of course, have been clear that he meant to teach that that commandment had ceased to be binding, and that a Sabbath was no longer to be observed. But the use of the term in the plural number, and the connection, show that he had his eye on the great number of days which were observed by the Hebrews as festivals, as a part of their ceremonial and typical law, and not to the moral law, or the Ten Commandments. No part of the moral law - no one of the ten commandments could be spoken of as “a shadow of good things to come.” These commandments are, from the nature of moral law, of perpetual and universal obligation. ...” - Albert Barnes, Colossians 2:16 Commentary. E-Sword App.

Adam Clarke, states on the same passage:

There is no intimation here that the Sabbath was done away, or that its moral use was superseded, by the introduction of Christianity. I have shown elsewhere that, Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy, is a command of perpetual obligation, and can never be superseded but by the final termination of time. ...” - Adam Clarke, Colossians 2:16 Commentary. E-Sword App.

Jamieson, Fausset and Brown Commentary states:
“... the sabbath — Omit “THE,” which is not in the Greek (compare Note, see on Gal_4:10). “SABBATHS” (not “the sabbaths”) of the day of atonement and feast of tabernacles have come to an end with the Jewish services to which they belonged (Lev_23:32, Lev_23:37-39). The weekly sabbath rests on a more permanent foundation, having been instituted in Paradise to commemorate the completion of creation in six days. Lev_23:38 expressly distinguished “the sabbath of the Lord” from the other sabbaths. A positive precept is right because it is commanded, and ceases to be obligatory when abrogated; a moral precept is commanded eternally, because it is eternally right. If we could keep a perpetual sabbath, as we shall hereafter, the positive precept of the sabbath, one in each week, would not be needed. Heb_4:9, “rests,” Greek, “keeping of sabbath” (Isa_66:23). But we cannot, since even Adam, in innocence, needed one amidst his earthly employments; therefore the sabbath is still needed and is therefore still linked with the other nine commandments, as obligatory in the spirit, though the letter of the law has been superseded by that higher spirit of love which is the essence of law and Gospel alike (Rom_13:8-10). ...” - Jamieson, Fausset and Brown, Colossians 2:16 Commentary.
The problem with commentaries is that you will choose the ones that agree with you and will ignore the ones I post that don’t agree with you. And as you have stated many times before they are not scripture so I find it interesting that you use them when is convenient for you but ignore the ones that other people post as not being scripture.

I don’t agree with the ones that you posted because they are ignoring actual possible definitions of the word and assuming others. If you want have the battle of the commentaries then I’ll find some that I like.
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Is 'once saved always saved' a biblical teaching?

So if you are sealed by the Holy Spirit after you believed, no one can break that seal.

That was my point.
Everyone can break that seal, is the point.

The whole world is downhill in faithlessness, of course that breaks any seal, as it is FAITH WHAT YOU STAND BY, in a world that was said to have none at this time.


Luke 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
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WHAT IS ROMAN 6:14 SAYING TO ALL. !!

Paul’s letters were speaking to the people that they were addressed to in order to answer questions that they were having or in order to resolve situations that they were dealing with. Some of things that he said were very context specific while other things that he said were true regardless of who he was speaking to.
And. in. John 3:5. John. wrote , b Jesus answered , Most addurely I say to you , unless one is BORN of WATER and the SPIRIT

he cannot. enter the KINGDOM of God !!

Since John wrote this book. , this means. John was talking to Jews and NOT to GENTILES is what it means !!

And in. James 1:1 here he wrote to the 12 tribes SCATTERED ABROAD. and we see that the HOLY SPIRIT. had men

write to different people to. Jews and GENTILES !!

What say you. ??

dan p
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The Thing Most Sabbath Keepers Do not Talk About.

A former SDA pastor told me there's inconsistency in that regard. It mainly seems to be about going to church on Saturday instead of Sunday, and having Saturday as a day off from your job. Those two are a must.
Unless someone can justify working on Saturday, they are expected to refrain from labor. If they are a police officer, hospital staff member, or even a janitor in a necessary role, the work is considered permissible. As long as they can show their job is essential, they are not seen as violating the Sabbath. In practice, very few churches take disciplinary action against those who break the Sabbath unless the behavior is blatant or the person is a church leader.
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Trump third term

Baseless accusations of it toward the Democratic party is not okay.

per AI
New York City politician Zohran Mamdani has explicitly denied being a communist, and is more accurately described as a democratic socialist.

Just because Trump throws out insults at others and makes claims, it doesn't mean those claims or insults are true. Nor does it mean that those supporting Momdami are what Trump claims.
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The Thing Most Sabbath Keepers Do not Talk About.

Brother, all I did was post the verses that you said were not in scripture. I provided no comment. Do with them as you will.
I said the Bible doesn't teach a man can't have a fire in his home or take a walk on God's Sabbath. Your 2 verses don't teach that, unless you separate them from the rest of the Bible
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Does Regeneration Precede Faith?

The Bible is clear a person does not have in them a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.” (regeneration) and then they take a drink of whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. (belief in Jesus)
Why do those who take a drink, do so? Do they have the natural capacity apart from saving grace?
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Trump third term

Neither is Communist, if you ask an actual communist. I actually know people who are communists, and they identify as such.
Right. I don’t take any offense to the term. It’s mostly right wing silliness that has made people deathly afraid of the dreaded C word.
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The Thing Most Sabbath Keepers Do not Talk About.

There are 22 million SDA’s, not everyone who says they are SDA’s are. We will not be judged based on what others (preceivied) do or don’t do. We all stand before Christ based on what we do 2 Cor5:10. I do not believe He is going to cut anyone slack because one person didn’t obey therefore, it relieves our moral obligation. It’s didn’t work out that way in the days of Noah and He told us it would be similar to His Second Coming. Mat 24:37-39
Have you made it to perfection yet? Anything less is damnation. I don't think there is such a thing as passing by anything less. We must not just be similar, we must be perfect even as the father in heaven is perfect. If you have screwed up you have failed already.
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