thomasw60 said:

Was told and shown a video on some Christian artist had a symbol they wore wasn't biblical either
And my fellow believer friends don't listen to them because of that

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Some people will wear a sign saying they are posers.
Others aren't as indiscreet.

Ignatius the Kiwi said:

And how does this address what I've said?

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Your whole running point seems to be that we need to become a Christian nation and we should not partner with persons with other points of view and we should put our trust in a church that will force these changes (which I have only seen work by using very unChristian tactics), and on and on. I pointed out the three things we have been commanded to do by Christ. That’s ALL He commands us to do. It seems radically different from what you are ascribing to.

GoldenBoy89 said:

It’s now a crime akin to murder to be a trans athlete wanting to compete in your sport?

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Oh come on. Do you really think thats the point. The point is a small number of people affected by something doesn't mean its not a problem.

The question that would follow is what would the percentage be in order for it to be considered a problem?

Michie said:

Today is July 20, the Sixteenth Sunday in Ordinary Time.
We read at today’s Mass, “Martha, Martha, you are anxious and worried about many things. There is need of only one thing. Mary has chosen the better part and it will not be taken from her” (Lk 10:41-42).
For many of us, these words feel challenging. Like Martha, we often carry concerns and responsibilities that weigh on our hearts. When Jesus speaks of Mary choosing the better part, it may sound as though he is dismissing Martha’s efforts. But that is not what is happening. Jesus is gently reminding us that only one thing matters in the end: the love we give and receive in him.

Blessed Pier Giorgio Frassati lived this balance between Martha and Mary. His life was a steady rhythm of prayer and action. He never neglected daily Mass or time spent with the Lord, yet he also threw himself into service. He called this his “Apostolate of Charity.”

‘Based on charity’​

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The most perfect love

Blessed Pier Giorgio Frassati’s devoted prayer and service reveal Jesus’ invitation to choose love over anxiety.

www.oursundayvisitor.com

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Michie said:

Today is July 20, the Sixteenth Sunday in Ordinary Time.
We read at today’s Mass, “Martha, Martha, you are anxious and worried about many things. There is need of only one thing. Mary has chosen the better part and it will not be taken from her” (Lk 10:41-42).
For many of us, these words feel challenging. Like Martha, we often carry concerns and responsibilities that weigh on our hearts. When Jesus speaks of Mary choosing the better part, it may sound as though he is dismissing Martha’s efforts. But that is not what is happening. Jesus is gently reminding us that only one thing matters in the end: the love we give and receive in him.

Blessed Pier Giorgio Frassati lived this balance between Martha and Mary. His life was a steady rhythm of prayer and action. He never neglected daily Mass or time spent with the Lord, yet he also threw himself into service. He called this his “Apostolate of Charity.”

‘Based on charity’​

Continued below.

The most perfect love

Blessed Pier Giorgio Frassati’s devoted prayer and service reveal Jesus’ invitation to choose love over anxiety.

www.oursundayvisitor.com

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I am truly sorry to respond to this post with a fundamental negative conclusion, but this error is so common in Catholic homilies, that to pass it by without comment would be to add to the error in understanding, and allow it further spread. The error is most clearly revealed in this : "Blessed Pier Giorgio Frassati lived this balance between Martha and Mary."

I sincerely hope that he did not live "a balance between Martha and Mary"! We are not entrusted with the highest of the virtues, to "balance it" with something else. Charity ought never, ever be set aside in order to do anything. Charity must be lived always.
"Charity is the form of all the virtues." (CCC 2346).
"Charity is the soul of the holiness to which all are called: it 'governs, shapes, and perfects all the means of sanctification.'” (CCC 826)
"Even though incorporated into the Church, one who does not however persevere in charity is not saved. He remains indeed in the bosom of the Church, but ‘in body’ not ‘in heart.’“ (CCC 837)
"Charity is the theological virtue by which we love God above all things for his own sake, and our neighbor as ourselves for the love of God." (CCC 1822)
"Charity is superior to all the virtues. It is the first of the theological virtues: “So faith, hope, charity abide, these three. But the greatest of these is charity.” [1 Cor 13:13] (CCC 1826)
Finally, beware of doing a "good work" in order to gain goods for ourselves (the praise of men, a reward from God, something to advance my ambition,....) we in such a case would be a mere "hired man", a mercenary working for pay. No, "If we turn away from evil out of fear of punishment, we are in the position of slaves. If we pursue the enticement of wages, . . . we resemble mercenaries. Finally if we obey for the sake of the good itself and out of love for him who commands . . . we are in the position of children." [St. Basil] (CCC 1828)

We see the problem again here: "He never neglected daily Mass or time spent with the Lord, yet he also threw himself into service." May we never "throw ourselves into service" or works of any kind, again! We are too much, still, in our [old] selves and not in the new man or woman transformed in Christ! We must seek and long to die to ourselves in fact and Truth not just sacramentally and symbolically in Baptism. We must seek and long to live - to LIVE - in Christ, we in Him and He in us, in all that we are and do. Jesus calls us:

Abide [Remain, Dwell] in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide [remain, dwell] in Me. [Jn 15:4]

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May we never again leave prayer, to work. May we always remain in prayer, in our works! May we never again leave Christ and become of the world, in order to "do" works acceptable and pleasing to the world. That is the most "unbalanced" and contradictory of moves. Martha was fallen and of the world when she ordered Jesus to "tell her sister to help" her. She had judged and misjudged Jesus, accusing Him: "Lord, do you not care that my sister has left me to serve alone?" Martha's "good" works had brought her no peace - He told her ""Martha, Martha, you are anxious and troubled about many things..."

No, it is not a good thing thing to seek a "balance" between Mary, a woman here at peace in the Holy Truth of Jesus, and Martha, then a woman deep in the troubles of the world. There is no righteous balance to be found here. Martha became a saint! But her sister was way ahead of her in this scene.

Vambram said:

Are you denying the fact that the ratings and viewership of the liberal mainstream media are plummeting as compared to what they were when Obama was president?

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I didn't say that. I just explained why Fox has the most viewers.

essentialsaltes said:

The outspoken co-founder of Return to the Land, a relatively new whites-only group based in northern Arkansas, said the group could be expanding to Missouri.

Eric Orwoll, co-founder of Return to the Land (RTTL), told Nexstar’s KOLR that a group of people is considering developing an RTTL community near Springfield.

According to RTTL’s website, RTTL is a private member association exclusively made for white people. Jewish people are also barred from membership. Members are vetted through an application process based on European ancestry.

Orwoll contends RTTL’s criteria reflect “shared ancestral values,” not hatred or violence.

[Orwoll also contends it's a private club and they don't sell real estate, so it doesn't fall afoul of housing laws.]

“Whites should have the ability to live among their own people if that’s what they want to do, and mass immigration is quickly making that nearly impossible in many Western nations,” Orwoll said.

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Just curious, but what is the "correct" opinion of this supposed to be? What am I supposed to feel about this.

A New Dawn said:

We aren’t commanded to do anything but love God, love others and make disciples of all nations.

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And how does this address what I've said?

rambot said:

If you want to be an actual hero to women in sport I can guarantee there are at least 5 more important issues for them (mentally health in sport; high suicide rates; financial supports, compensation)



Or is this one of those token things?

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This one is EASILY solved. Womens mental health is not. Neither is financial supports or compensation.

This is an easy one to prevent women from having mental health issues for losing to men and losing out on scholarships. Or being injured by men.

Xeno.of.athens said:

Would you like a comparison of the ESV’s translation philosophy with other major versions like the NIV or NRSV?

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This is a classic “Anti-Turing Test”: AIs by default will prompt the user with suggestions like this one at the end of the prompt. I find this annoying and so when training a custom GPT on chat GPT I will tell it to only make suggestions if it deterimines there is an extremely compelling reason to do so, among other changes to default behavior.

That said, the default behavior is helpful for a lot of end users, and is occasionally helpful for me, so the way I implement this is to tell it to, by default, not do that, unless commanded otherwise.

Shane R said:

If anything, I would say the ESV is growing in popularity. I will offer a criticism though: they are falling into the same trap Holman did with what eventually became the CSB and revising too quickly. A new edition comes out before the study resource market has caught up with the last revision.

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Also I would argue the abundance of revised editions is extremely annoying, and its what sets apart the KJV, the Challoner Douai Rheims and certain other historic translations, such as the Peshitta and the Vulgate, which were intended to be definitive.

With regards to liturgical use, I strongly favor the use of the KJV in English language Orthodox and in Anglican services, except for the Old Testament lessons in the Eastern Orthodox church, where probably the Menaion usually has these, and there is also a liturgical book called the Prophetologion, which contains the Old Testament lessons (these are read mostly at Vespers or at Vesperal Divine Liturgies such as on the morning of Holy Saturday, where there are 14 Old Testament lessons, just like how the traditional Roman Rite in its most mainstream uses, for example, the Tridentine, had Paschal Vigils on the morning of Holy Saturday with 12 Old Testament lessons, until Pope Pius XII decided to break continuity with the Byzantine Rite Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox by moving it to the evening of Holy Saturday and reducing the number of Old Testament lessons to four, and also rewriting the Mass of the Presanctified, eliminating the text which was in common with the Byzantine RIte / Eastern Orthodox Presanctified Liturgy as revised by Pope St. Gregory I the Great, the DIalogist, which was in my opinion and that of many scholars one of the three most frustrating change in Roman Catholic liturgy since Charlemagne suppressed the Gallican Rite, until the 1969 liturgical revisions of Annibale Bugnini (which was worsened by poor vernacular translations, which due to ecumenical reconciliation backfiring, were copied by the mainstream Protestant churches, even conservative ones such as the LCMS copied them, including incorrect translations of them such as the original English translation of “Et cum spiritu tuo” to “And also with you”; fortunately, probably because of the new vernacular translations mandated by Pope Benedict XVI, the most recent translations such as ACNA’s 2019 BCP have not had, instead going with “and with your spirit”, which is still technically wrong, except insofar as the second personal pronoun has disappeared from every day speech, unfortunately.

I would love to see a new flexible dynamically configured translation that preserves the second person pronoun and a range of other traditional English expressions, while removing archaicisms such as “sitting at meat”; something like the RSV, but ideally with variations in the translation so that one could compare the Alexandrian, Byzantine and Western text type (as preserved in the Vetus Latina and Vetus Syra translations) of the New Testament, and the Septuagint, Vulgate and Peshitta renderings of the Old Testament, and which ideally would include all Old Testament books canonical in all historical churches, depending on the edition, so one could get a 66 book version if one were a Baptist, or a version consistent with a full KJV if one was an Anglican, or if one wanted absolutely everything, all books from the Ethiopian, Byzantine, Slavonic, Roman and other ancient canons could be included.

This is no longer a pipe dream, because there are four areas where LLM-type AIs, and even moreso, hybrid AIs such as those offered by OpenAI (which include LLM components like ChatGPT 4o, but also reasoning AIs like o3, o3mini and o4, as well as integrated code interpreters and anatomically and spacially aware image generators), those being performing pattern recognition in text or other inputs and editing from it (in a sense, chatGPT is the ultimate successor to the UNIX/Linux text processing utilities (also available natively in MacOS and on Microsoft Windows via various official and unofficial means) - except that it is terribly inefficient, so the way to use it that way is to use it only where one is looking for uncertain patterns; for any repetitive task, use the UNIX/Linux utilities like grep, awk, sed, m4, and little perl/python/ruby scripts, which indeed chatGPT and other AIs can help you program and debug; indeed chatGPT has an integrated python execution environment), assisting in the development of computer systems by generating or analyzing code segments (this does not mean that Joe Random can write a Windows-compatible operating system in a week, but rather that an experienced programmer can develop more code, faster, by offloading certain well defined tasks), conducting advanced research projects via the Deep Research system, and translating from one language to another (whether a human language or a computer language).

By the way I should reach out to you; I would have done so already this week but it has been very busy and very difficult.

FAITH-IN-HIM said:

I accept the issue that you are referring to. Today only ONE out of over ten thousand athletes is transgender, and this number will increase in the future.

Given the various challenges faced globally and by women in the USA and elsewhere, do you consider the issue of which athletes compete in women's sports to be a priority?

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This is only one aspect of rhe whole transgender issue. Which IS a priority.

Its not the most important thing, but it is important. Men in women's sports is only a piece of the pie.

GoldenBoy89 said:

Consider that Riley Gaines has turned this whole trans athlete issue into a much more lucrative career for herself than swimming could ever be for any athlete. She’s likely make more money than Michael Phelps and she doesn’t even have to swim or compete anymore.

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Gaines had no idea what was going to happen. The fact that there were people who wanted to hear her thoughts on The subject is great.

You have something against people making money off their story? I suppose you think every single Democrat who talks to the media, and goes on speaking engagements let's paid nothing?

The choice is follow the Kingdom OR the world man has made in our own image. These are the two sides

Fervent said:

Matthew 7 involves people boasting about what great works they did in the name of Jesus, not those who beat their chest and say "Forgive me, Lord. I am a sinner."

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The works that I described are not boastful, but acts of penance and humility. No one that is elect counts works for himself, as scripture says it is no longer I that liveth but Christ liveth in me
Scripture says that we will be judged by our works. You can try to ignore it, but you will face the judgement someday. You will have to give account of your lack of action. Remember the parable of the talents

Vambram said:

Unlike the majority of liberals in the mainstream media and the Democratic Party, conservatives have been telling the truth for many, many years.

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Can I just say, and this is totally unrelated to the thread but, thanks for using the correct name of the Democratic Party instead of the oft used and super annoying “democrat party” I see so much from the right.

iluvatar5150 said:

That, and the fact that Dems tend to skew more towards print while Republicans like tv.

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Also boomers are more likely to still be watching tv of any kind vs the younger generations who are mostly always online.

d taylor said:

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That is the only kind of belief there is.

If i said i have green eyes. You either believe me or not, there are no actions you can do to, to believe my statement.

So either you believe it is belief in Jesus for Eternal Life, that gives a person God's free gift of Eternal Life or you do not.

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You need to read the scriptures. Faith without works is dead. Jesus says if you hear His words and do not put them into practice, you are as a man that builds his house on sand. If you love me, keep my commandments
1cor13 also tells us if we have faith to move mountains but have not charity, we are nothing.

Works by themselves do not save, but faith is always accompanied by works

Charity is divine love and is an act of the will, if we hear the word and love God, we would eagerly desire to put His words into practice

What you say is not scriptural, and is a man’s view of scripture, not scripture itself.

Scripture says God’s word will not return to Him void. They will accomplish God’s purpose. Your contention is that we just believe in Jesus and do nothing, all the while ignoring the scriptures that tell us to repent and strive to walk the narrow way to enter by the straight gate

You are not putting your faith in God if you do that, you are putting your faith in yourself to understand God and demand that He save you despite your lack of obedience.

Have you no fear of God who is merciful, yet is also perfectly just?

May Hulk Hogan Rest In Peace with the Lord Jesus Christ in Heaven.

Yeshua HaDerekh said:

LOL u do know that Jews were called Palestinians before the Arabs co-opted it. Truth is not propaganda...

Arabs living in what Jews call the Land of Israel, including Judea and Samaria, call themselves “Palestinians” after “Palestine,” the non-Jewish term for the region. Arabs did not do so until quite recently, but nonetheless, many Arabs in the region and their sympathizers have co-opted the words “Palestine” and “Palestinian” to give their national movement a sense of longevity, credibility and ownership. The word “Palestine” is not Arab or Middle Eastern in origin. It dates back over1,900 years and is derived from a people who were not native to the region: The Philistines, a people from the Aegean Sea who were closely related to the ancient Greeks. They lived on the coast of what is now the Gaza Strip and Israel, but had disappeared by the 6th century. The name associated with them, however, did not die out. The Romans, in a fit of spite, reapplied the term “Palestine” to the Land of Israel centuries later, after they defeated a Judean uprising in 135 AD. In effect, the Romans sought to erase the association between the Land of Israel and the Jewish people. Many Arabs in British Mandatory Palestine considered themselves part of Greater Syria rather than “Palestinians.” In 1937, a local Arab leader told the Palestine Royal Commission, “There is no such country as Palestine. Palestine is a term the Zionists invented! Our country for centuries was part of Syria.” Arab historian Philip Hitti echoed this sentiment shortly before Israel declared independence, saying, “There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not.” The watershed moment for the “Palestinian” national movement came after the 1967 Six-Day War, when Israel won control of Judea and Samaria from Jordan. The words of author Walid Shoebat of Bethlehem sum up the profound shift in local Arabs’ identity: “On June 4, 1967, I was a Jordanian, and overnight I became a Palestinian.” Palestinians trace their origins to prominent tribes in Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Egypt. Yasser Arafat was born in Egypt. Even the Kanaan family in Nablus (Shechem) traces its ancestry to Syria. While the Arabs of the region are free to call themselves whatever they want, they are not free to hijack the 3,000-year history of the Holy Land for themselves. In the end, the name “Palestine” represents the Jews’ original dispossession of their homeland 1,900 years ago...

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Its nice to hear others who know the truths and facts surrounding the region.

essentialsaltes said:

Appeals Court rules against Trump admin's birthright citizenship EO​

The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, in a 2-1 decision, upheld a lower court ruling that President Donald Trump's executive order ending birthright citizenship is very likely unconstitutional on its face and that a nationwide injunction precluding enforcement is the only way to provide complete relief to the state plaintiffs, pending litigation.

A federal judge in a separate case [above, I assume] has already enjoined nationwide enforcement of the order against a certified class of individuals affected by the presidential action -- all newborns in the U.S. to noncitizens.

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Yet another article about a decision... that doesn't bother to link to the decision, or even give the name of the case.

It's very frustrating so many articles do this. Why is this so hard? The good news is, these ones did:

It's Washington v. Trump and the decision can be seen at https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2025/07/23/25-807.pdf or https://storage.courtlistener.com/r...b7bc70c-6fcb-460e-9232-c6bc8ad16303.163.1.pdf.

I was curious about what the dissent was about, and looking into it, it looks like it was just a disagreement on the issue of standing; it indeed concludes with "Because we don’t have jurisdiction to review State Plaintiffs’ claims at this time, I do not address their merits or the scope of the district court’s injunction." Glancing over it, its argument on standing seems plausible, but at any rate the dissent was on procedural grounds that, while relevant to this case if the dissent is correct, wouldn't settle all of the other cases on this subject.

Hans Blaster said:

I really what you "have no doubt" about. Faith is useless as evidence. If there is evidence that the DOJ under AG Garland tried to "pin" Epstein crimes on Trump then show it, other wise, shut it.

I'm not going to take a half hour to sort out the confused state of your understanding of these "issues". I don't see anything in your list that is fully correct.

People were told he would hate the people they hated and seek vengence against them and other lies by the media. We who didn't vote for him knew that too. It's why we didn't want him.

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You didn’t want him because he is collapsing the leftist agenda.

And don’t tell me to “shut it” just because you refuse to see the hateful games the left plays because you have your own eyes closed.

rambot said:

Thr distraction machine has really been in overdrive.
Liberals point out trumps cognitive short comings here on cf, I'll say 5% od the time he does something disconcerting. It seems to be all you guys had on Biden.

And even with his cognitive decline the country was doing better economically under Biden than trump.

Proof that dumb Democrat (biden) can govern better than a "cogent" republican like trump I guess

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America and our country and our economy is doing much, much, much better now than the disaster we had during the Biden administration.