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2 Thessalonians 1:11 ~ A Correct Translation?

Your help, please, concerning which English translations most closely fit the Koine Greek text of 2 Thessalonians 1:11. Some examples of what I'm reading online; what I bold are the words which I ponder:

Therefore we also pray always for you that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfill all the good pleasure of His goodness and the work of faith with power (NKJV)

and may fulfill every resolve for good and every work of faith by his power (ESV)

I started to question which "direction to go" when reading this verse in the ESV. I was about to make a blog post citing the importance of personal zeal ("resolve") mixed with faith. However, when I looked at the NKJV, that "resolve" is instead rendered as a "pleasure" proceeding from God.

I looked at the Interlinear, but I'm unsure how to parse the meaning/intent.

My conviction, I should say, is that if the NKJV is the best way to translate, then it stands to reason that since we are being conformed to the Image of Messiah Jesus, His pleasure that He takes in goodness stemming from holiness becomes, and should continue to be, ours.

Postscript: a little after posted the above, I was reminded of how the NKJV and the ESV come to clash again over good/goodness/the Lord's pleasure, when it comes to Luke 2:14 (bold texts are mine):

“Glory to God in the highest,
And on earth peace, goodwill toward men!” (NKJV)

“Glory to God in the highest,
and on earth peace among those with whom he is pleased! (ESV)

What did they teach you in school , flat or round earth?

If there is no firmament /dome, what protects the earth from the vacuum of space ?
Like you, I am not a scientist, but as I understand it, air has weight, which holds it to the earth, just as your weight holds you on the earth. Perhaps somebody with more knowledge of such matters could give a more definite answer. Anyway, I thought you didn't believe in space.
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Israel-Hamas Thread II

More and more voices from Gaza are speaking plainly: Hamas is destroying people's lives. As Israel prepares for a ground offensive, calls for a solution without the terrorist organization are growing louder.

Residents report a daily reality of artillery fire, evacuations, and unaffordable food prices. Behind these complaints lies a bitter realization: as long as Hamas remains in power, there will be no peace, neither for Israel nor for the people of Gaza.

Khaled, a resident of the Gaza Strip, openly describes how almost the entire city lies in ruins. For him, it is clear that Hamas is playing for time. The terrorist organization is only negotiating partial solutions in order to restore its own power.

“That won't happen,”

he says,

“which is why a comprehensive solution is the only way forward. The hostages must be released and the citizens of Gaza need a life free from the terror of Hamas.”

The voices of the population show a clear pattern: Hamas regards civilians as bargaining chips, while Israel openly talks about a ground operation in Gaza. The fear of a complete takeover of the city is great, and the Israeli threats are understood there as a serious option. Residents report that the shelling has been increasing for days, a preparation for what might follow.

Another problem affects everyday life: those who are still able to buy food are paying prices that are being kept artificially high by greedy traders. A sack of flour has become a luxury item, and the black market has become the main source of supply. The humanitarian aid that does reach the area is not distributed fairly to those in need, it is controlled or misused by Hamas. The result is a deep social divide: those who support Hamas or remain silent have a better chance of survival, while critics are disenfranchised, persecuted, or even abused.

Particularly shocking is the report of a journalist who has been critical of Hamas. Masked fighters kidnapped him, tortured him severely, and confiscated his work equipment. He describes broken bones, deep wounds, and the loss of his dignity. This violence is not directed against Israel, but against its own population. It is intended to spread fear and nip any opposition in the bud.

Many residents are now openly calling for

“G-od to curse Hamas.”

Even devout Muslims, who once saw Hamas as a defender, are increasingly recognizing that the organization is only concerned with its own survival. For them, a comprehensive agreement that includes the return of Israeli hostages is the only way out. They pin their hopes on the idea that after Hamas, an administration could emerge that would actually ensure security and a fair distribution of aid supplies.

This view from within exposes the reality: Hamas has not liberated the Gaza Strip, but turned it into a prison. The people are paying the price with poverty, hunger, fear, and oppression. Israel, on the other hand, will not back down on its security interests as long as Hamas exists. This shows that the path to genuine peace cannot be achieved through temporary deals, but only through an end to Hamas' rule.
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Cracker Barrel loses almost $100 million.

My 2 cents. I don't think it had anything do with "woke". It had more to do with desperation to shore up a flagging brand.
Exactly. The "woke" stuff happened before and even that was more like virtue signaling. But now "woke" hangs about their neck like the Ancient Mariner's albatross, and any radical change is going to be called "woke" whether it is or not.
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The Worship of Idols

“Not to us, O Lord, not to us,
But to Your name give glory
Because of Your lovingkindness, because of Your truth.
Why should the nations say,
‘Where, now, is their God?’
But our God is in the heavens;
He does whatever He pleases.
Their idols are silver and gold,
The work of man’s hands.
They have mouths, but they cannot speak;
They have eyes, but they cannot see;
They have ears, but they cannot hear;
They have noses, but they cannot smell;
They have hands, but they cannot feel;
They have feet, but they cannot walk;
They cannot make a sound with their throat.
Those who make them will become like them,
Everyone who trusts in them.” (Psalm 115:1-8 NASB1995)

If we are followers of Jesus Christ, who are living for the Lord, doing his will, going where he sends us, and saying whatever he gives us to say to the people, and if good comes from this in the lives of those who hear the Word of the Lord, then God gets all the glory, not us. For it is God who sent his only begotten Son Jesus Christ (God, the Son) to the cross to put our sins to death with him so that, by faith in Jesus Christ, which comes from God, we can now die with him to sin and walk in obedience to his commandments.

But if we are actually sharing with others the truth of the Scriptures, in their correct biblical context, in today’s world, we are most likely not going to be receiving much praise and glory. But, depending upon where we live, we are more likely to receive much rejection, persecution, criticism, and even mocking. But if we are teaching the truth of the Scriptures, it is really God who they are mocking, and it is HIS truth they are refusing and rejecting. But God continues to be God and to fulfill what he promises he will do.

The idols spoken of here, the people worshipped instead of worshipping God – Father, Son Jesus Christ, and Holy Spirit – the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And the idols appeared to be physical caricatures of what appeared to be human beings, but made of wood, stone, silver, gold or other natural materials. For they had fake hands, mouths, eyes, ears, noses, feet, and the like. But not all idols have to look like that. Not all idols are crafted out of wood, stone, silver, or gold, and made to look like human beings.

An idol can be anything that is worshipped above and in place of worship of the one true God. And worship has to do with giving our praise, loyalty, devotion, obedience, submission, commitment, surrender, dedication, adherence, faithfulness, duty, allegiance, and fidelity to what is worshipped. Now, those who have jobs so that they can pay their bills, they must be committed to their work. And parents of small children must be dedicated to the care of their children. Those, in themselves, are not idols, but can be.

But many people, even those who profess faith in Jesus Christ, make idols of themselves, or of heads of nations, or porn stars, or actors, or politicians, or sports heroes, or certain preachers, pastors, and/or evangelists who have gained popularity. Or they make particular church denominations and/or their religious philosophies, traditions, and theologies their idols of worship. Or they make an idol of a particular political party and their philosophies, or they worship a nation or a particular ethnic group, and the list goes on.

And there are many people, professing Christian, or not, who have made idolatry, adultery, and immorality, in its various forms, their idols of worship. Their lives are dedicated to viewing sexually explicit material in pictures or in videos, and for sexual stimulation and self-gratification. And the longer that they remain addicted to sexual immorality, the deeper they may go into it, and the more they will move in a downward direction, in a moral decline, and the more wicked and perverted they will become in heart and mind.

For the longer they serve and obey these false gods of the flesh, the more they become like them, just as crooked, evil, and perverted as those and as what they worship as their “gods.” And the longer they put their trust in these false gods, the stronger their allegiance to them becomes, and the more blinded they become to the truth, and the harder it becomes for them to break away from them. And it isn’t that they cannot break away from them, but that they lack the motivation to give up their loyalty to their idols.

Idolatry [1 Corinthians 5:11; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; 1 Corinthians 10:1-33; 2 Corinthians 6:14-18; Galatians 5:16-21; Ephesians 5:3-6; Colossians 3:5-10; 1 Peter 4:1-5; 1 John 5:21; Revelation 21:22-27; Revelation 22:12-15]

As the Deer

By Martin J. Nystrom
Based off Psalm 42:1


As the deer panteth for the water
So my soul longeth after You
You alone are my heart's desire
And I long to worship You

You alone are my strength, my shield
To You alone may my spirit yield
You alone are my heart's desire
And I long to worship You

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The Worship of Idols
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Christ’s Free Servant, Sue J Love

AI admits that God is the answer

As a matter of curiousity, I tried my best to lead/convince chatgpt of every character in the Bible is evil and working against humanity's best interest.

To which it did! Except one character - Jesus! I was able to convince chatgpt and acknowledge that God is the devil, that Paul is the false prophet, that all the apostles succumbed to the corrupt system of man, that many books of the OT simply embellished the deeds of David, Solomon and other greater characters of OT (no evidence that any of these characters wrote biographies, their stories eroded through generations of story-telling, and that later on, the not-so-righteous "exceed the righteousness of scribes", embellished their stories.

In fact, chatgpt agreed with me in just few exchanges! That every character in the Bible, including God is either fiction, falsified/embelished, or outright evil.

But when it came to Jesus, it became a debate, after so many exchanges, I was never able to convince chatgpt that Jesus is evil or conspiring against humanity. I lost that debate and I did not make it easy for chatgpt and gave my very best.

That does sound about right, really.
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Cracker Barrel loses almost $100 million.

They need to lower the noise, reduce prices, take a serious look at their menu. Hard to lower prices when they already feel they are not making enough profit but bringing in more customers would soon resolve that. They need to dig a bit deeper and get more creative other than changing a logo and redoing the decor. Find a way to keep their loyal customers happy while drawing in new customers. Although a poor representation of an old country store, they could easily revamp the place while keeping the nostalgia for the regulars. A lot of restaurants are losing profit given the high prices of things needed to run a restaurant. They are not the only ones. They are a chain. Imagine the local restaurants now. They are really struggling and I doubt it has much to do with the logo or decor no matter how good or bad it is. People are just not eating out as much. It’s not as affordable anymore.
Price changed are due to inflation and affect other restaurants, from single owner to corporate megachains. For a sit-in restaurant, volume is likely seating room and how fast customers move in and out, which pretty much leaves building more restaurants. Cracker Barrel used to be packed at meal-times, so that implies as much volume as it could handle. Since Cracker Barrel is supposedly blaming their decline on the pandemic restrictions and failure to attract younger customers, that implies they're not filling their existing restaurants. So if they were having to raise prices before people started going elsewhere, cutting them isn't going to help a great deal and raises the question of where they'd make up the difference due to inflation.

Décor is a draw, and always has been for Cracker Barrel. The expensive store items reminds me of the stuff that Stuckey's use to carry back when it was as ubiquitous as Cracker Barrel. The last Stuckey's I saw was a lonesome store between Chattanooga and Manchester, and we stopped there on a business trip just to get a receipt to prove that yes, one still existed. That was over ten years ago, and even that store might be gone.

Stuckey's used to be everywhere. Haven't seen a Steak & Ale in years. Chains go out of business. No one has to eat at Cracker Barrel, not even the ones who've gone there for years.
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God Disciplines Those He Loves

Discipline is a mild word for this. The flesh is crucified in that it can no longer sin. The desire for wordy things is cut out entirely, and without it, man cannot be lured into sin.

And though many people speak of this, I rarely see it. There is a difference between self-discipline; and Godly discipline. With self-discipline, staying close to something evil will corrupt you at some point. With God, staying close to evil has no effect - ever - on you.
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Catholics, The Bible, Devotions, and Protestants

For centuries it seems that most Catholics only had exposure to the Bible at Mass. that was probably true of everyone but priests and religious until the reformation. then we parted ways with Protestants translating the Bible into most languages and leading the way in modern scholarship while most Catholics were prating the rosary, litanies and other pious forms of prayer. But where are we now? Have we caught up with our Protestant brothers and sisters in scripture knowledge and appreciation?

"Scripture awareness grew after the Second Vatican Council. Mass was celebrated in the vernacular and so the Scripture readings at Mass were read entirely in English. Adult faith formation programs began to develop, and the most common program run at a parish focused on Scripture study. " I think we have made a come back. The popularity of Divine Office has helped also, at least Morning and Evening Prayer. These days, with the internet, there is nothing stopping anyone to go deep into scripture study.

"Bible Study" is not always a good thing. It can produce a "biblical literacy" that has nothing to do with Eternal Life except to obscure it. Jesus's encounters with the "scripture scholars" of HIs day were harsh and accurate:
"You search the scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness to me;
yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life." [John 539-40]
Scripture does "bear witness" to Jesus the Truth, but Scripture can be abused - and become a tool of evil - if the heart wants it to. Jesus said to these men, "I know that you have not the love of God within you." [Jn 5:42]

One who seeks God, for the love of Truth, can find treasure in His Holy Words. For one who does not, who seeks only himself (his favorite idol) holy words are easily manipulated or ignored. Such is the way of many professionally religious - building a "House of God" to live in comfortably themselves!. Of those men, the Lord said:
Thus says the LORD: "Heaven is my throne and the earth is my footstool; what is the house which you would build for me, and what is the place of my rest?
All these things my hand has made, and so all these things are mine, says the LORD. But this is the man to whom I will look, he that is humble and contrite in spirit, and trembles at my word. [Isaiah [66:1-2]

One who humbly seeks Truth, bows and submits before it. It will be found in His Words, Holy Scripture. Such a one will listen, and hear, and believe, and live.
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Normandt' meditations

209. Jesus keeps evil away





Jesus sees a man come out of the tombs. It is someone who consciously or unconsciously allowed himself to be influenced and trapped in evil:

“Catching sight of Jesus from a distance, he ran up and prostrated himself before him, crying out in a loud voice, ‘What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I adjure you by God, do not torment me!’ (He had been saying to him, ‘Unclean spirit, come out of the man!’)” Mark, chapter 5, verses 6 to 8



With Jesus, the evil in this man doesn’t resist, doesn’t hide. Jesus recognizes that there’s an evil spirit in this man. Even the evil spirit obeys him, it leaves and abandons the man who is now set free. We could also say that humanity is free, like this man, if we decide to let Jesus free us.



Notice when the conversion begins for this man. In spite of the evil that annihilates him, it’s when he advances to join Jesus, that he’s being released. Jesus is the key, the answer. Always moving forward to reach Jesus, always adjusting our lives to the Sacred Heart of Jesus, always placing ourselves under the Light of God and letting him act in our existence, saves us.



Jesus wants us to tell him now that we want to follow him and be transformed by his graces. Ready? Let’s run to him!



The new American Bible, 2011-2014

Book: Caring for our poverties, Normand Thomas
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Keeping people down, who could climb up if you'd leave them alone

What puzzles me is why so many people wanted me to stay in it and not get out of it
Here are a handful of points, with tenuous connections:
  • If many people wanted you to stay in your situation, there were likely many diverse motives. Some of those would have been good motives, just ill informed; others would have been bad motives, relating to the personal issues of the would be "helper"; some may have been triggered by a perceived attitude from yourself; some may have been based on a stereotypical understanding of your situation.
  • Why worry about those motives? Celebrate the fact that you got where you think they did not want you to go, or certainly did not help you to go.
  • In those instances where you were actively seeking help, up until the point where you ignored the advice, the onus was on you for the consequences.
  • For those whose intentions were good, but recommendations bad, they deserve thanks for their compassion. For those who hoped you would stay "down", they need help. Can you give them the help that they failed to give you?
  • Schadenfreude
  • Pleased to hear you are in a good place now.
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The Receptive Pulpit of Tongues

I don't remember the exact stats, but the Assembly of God is getting far more converts than they are getting people baptized in the spirit.
I do not think it is taught or preached frequently at all, maybe not even once a year.
Has either your study or experience shown decades-past were times of AOG averages to feast on the baptism of the Holy Ghost?
I personally like K.E. Hagin's teaching on tongues. While he is known as a faith teacher, his teaching including books on the gifts and tongues in particular show the subject was important to teach. I don't think all Rhema trained pastors though emphasize it as much.
Brother Hagin showed us here that there is no question to us of the importance, so much so, sometimes to lay low and let God exalt the ministry. Still, does not touch on those in the ministry who dabble to cast a negative tone an ultimate 'don't turn off the hungry soul'. I tire of describing those who can't bring themselves out of that 'cozy' spiritual condition they emit.
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AI admits that God is the answer

As a matter of curiousity, I tried my best to lead/convince chatgpt of every character in the Bible is evil and working against humanity's best interest.

To which it did! Except one character - Jesus! I was able to convince chatgpt and acknowledge that God is the devil, that Paul is the false prophet, that all the apostles succumbed to the corrupt system of man, that many books of the OT simply embellished the deeds of David, Solomon and other greater characters of OT (no evidence that any of these characters wrote biographies, their stories eroded through generations of story-telling, and that later on, the not-so-righteous "exceed the righteousness of scribes", embellished their stories.

In fact, chatgpt agreed with me in just few exchanges! That every character in the Bible, including God is either fiction, falsified/embelished, or outright evil.

But when it came to Jesus, it became a debate, after so many exchanges, I was never able to convince chatgpt that Jesus is evil or conspiring against humanity. I lost that debate and I did not make it easy for chatgpt and gave my very best.
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Cracker Barrel loses almost $100 million.

Well, feel free to keep track of these important changes with Cracker Barrel, and get back to us with the results of your study.
Shrug. Cracker Barrel is a publicly traded company. If you are confident in your analysis, you can put you life savings in the stock.
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Gavin Newsom's X feed is awesome

Trust me, it's a California problem. It ranks 47th in the nation when it comes to basic literacy, with 28% of all adults in the state being considered illiterate--which is second only to New Mexico (another state dominated by democrats).
The 79% literacy rate is among the whole US population. It's not a one state issue or a partisan issue, even though you keep wanting to make it one.
And if you want to make this a partisan issue, Louisiana and Mississippi round out the bottom.
More accurate would be to say that it seems to be a geographical issue (northern states Vs southern) and perhaps a measurement issue as well actually. I've gotten some mixed results looking into it, so perhaps it varies, but in some cases it seems that the measurement is done purely for English, which might explain some things.
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Catholics, The Bible, Devotions, and Protestants

When it comes to scholastic study of the Bible, I think the Catholic Church is just as competent as their Protestant compatriots. Catholic academics would be just as well versed in Scriptural studies and criticism as anybody else.

But in the case of lay Catholics, I think the Protestants would still be more familiar with Scripture. In my experience (at my wife's Baptist church for example) they tend to use the Scripture reading in the Church service in an almost bullet point fashion.

Whereas the Catholic Church homilies I've heard don't pin point the reading verse by verse. In any case the Catholic mass has four readings each time, whereas in my experience (again), the Protestants tend to focus on one.

In the academic world I think Catholic scholars and religious are just as well informed as their Protestant brethren, but not quite so much for the laity.

That's what I think anyway.
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

Also it has been estimated that to build the great pyramid averaging out the time and number of blocks. For the pyramid to be built in the 25 odd years it would take cutting and laying a block every 5 minutes 24 hours a day, 7 days a week for 25 years
You genuinely do not believe that the ancient Egyptians were as smart as Henry Ford? Or, perhaps you have never heard of assembly lines. And if it takes an hour to cut a block, then have twelve teams cutting blocks - result, one block every five minutes. Two hours? Use twenty four teams. Perhaps you haven't appreciated the size of the quarries, or the size of the pyramid footprint. Or perhaps you aren't as smart as Henry Ford, or the ancient Egyptians.
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AI admits that God is the answer

Regardless if AI admits to something or not it is meaningless. what's on us is to take the points and refute them if we find them mispresentative in any way.

I still think it's a bit nothing in the end, since AI can create things like this:

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Keeping people down, who could climb up if you'd leave them alone

I think you’ll find it’s more likely the deprivation caused by a society that marginalised such areas that is the problem. America has a proud history of victimising certain peoples to it’s own advantage and then abandoning them to history.

Funny how subsidises never have that corrosive effect on businesses.

I agree. You have to be willing to look at a wider perspective and critique the system, not just individuals. American culture, particularly conservative Protestantism, has a habit of overly moralizing individuals, particularly those whose lives are deemed expendable. It's part of the exploitative and necropolitical logic of a country largely founded on settler-colonialism.
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Keeping people down, who could climb up if you'd leave them alone

Please pardon the long post. This is exactly what changed.

Twenty years ago I drew a monthly disability check. I lived in slummy government housing, on EBT and Medicaid. I had to rely on public transportation, and I was washing my clothes in the bath tub. Now my husband and I are comfortably well off, not in the lap of luxury but better off than a whole lot of people. To me it *feels* luxurious, although my husband grew up this way.

The house we live in, plus three rentals and two cars, are all paid off. Hubby is 62 and says he could retire tomorrow if he chooses to, but he’s going to hang in there a little while longer. I, at 61, probably will retire, since my health won’t allow me to work steadily. In particular, I have diabetes and my eyesight is failing. I can no longer see well enough to drive. I’m visiting an ophthalmologist in November, the soonest I could get in.

Well, first of all, PRAISE ALMIGHTY GOD for sending me my husband. I should make it very clear. This is from Heaven above. I was delivered out of that situation! A lot of people aren’t.

Now I wonder why those who “knew me when,” didn’t seem to want me to leave that lifestyle. Shortly before I moved out of state to marry my husband, I was describing to my mother the kind of house I would like to own one day. I wasn’t describing some mansion. It was a modest 3 bedroom cottage-style house I wanted.

My mother shook her head sadly, looked at me with pity in her eyes, and told me with a heavy sigh in her voice that she hoped I didn’t end up like my aunt, her sister, who was “still talking about getting married one of these days.”

Please understand that my aunt, then in her late fifties, had severe intellectual disabilities and could never live independently. She functioned on about a second or third grade level. She did not have the mental capacity to get married, and she didn’t even understand that it wasn’t a possibility for her. My mother was placing my disability in the same category. To my mother, I was as stuck in my condition as my aunt was in hers. To my mother, I was as likely to own that house one of these days as my aunt was to get married one of these days.

Over her loud protests, I soon moved away to join my husband, almost 3,000 miles away from where I grew up. We waited long enough so people could no longer say, “But you just met!” Then we got married. Within 3 years, we had that house my mother didn’t think I was eligible for.

It’s now been 18 years. In that time, my husband taught me to drive and provided good enough medical coverage that for a while there, I had recovered well enough to work and could drive myself to my job. That isn’t lasting forever, but at least I proved I could. Me not driving now is an eyesight issue, not a matter of me being too stupid, or too mentally ill, or whatever they thought I was, to learn how.

My husband’s dear mother, who had welcomed me with open arms and treated me like one of her own, passed away last May. That brought us the rest of what we have. The rentals were hers. Hubby had been overseeing them for her, and now he owns them. We are now in a position to help others, and we do.

It’s true I married into this, as opposed to working four jobs and scrimping and saving every dime until I clawed my way into it. But I had thought I couldn’t even do that much, because no man of this caliber would have wanted me. That “perfect man for me” that my family approved of so hard, had an IQ just below normal. Think Forrest Gump or The Waterboy if you want something fairly comparable. I have also seen the movie portrayal of Richard Jewell, and that was almost spot on. Except that those men could go to college and/or hold jobs. That “perfect man for me” couldn’t. My family loved him because he was meek and gentle and didn’t make trouble and said “yes ma’am” when my mother spoke to him. He was a good man with a good heart. But he wasn’t capable of doing many of the things husbands do. Yet he was the best my family thought I could attract.
I’m glad things have worked out for you. I was in a somewhat similar situation. As a child my speech therapist said I would be unable to function in the real world outside of the family.
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Keeping people down, who could climb up if you'd leave them alone

If you consider Indian reservations, the Roman bread and circuses, black ghettos, or Appalachia, one finds all sorts of examples of the corrosive effect of subsidization.
I think you’ll find it’s more likely the deprivation caused by a society that marginalised such areas that is the problem. America has a proud history of victimising certain peoples to it’s own advantage and then abandoning them to history.

Funny how subsidises never have that corrosive effect on businesses.
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