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Does God want men to choose easy options ?

Actually, my own experience of "purity" doesn't match with what your exorcist said:

This is why i spoke with this metaphor of the piece of wood on the seashore, like a hope for no longer being pulled back toward the ocean (the sinning).

Indeed, when i succeed in making myself purer, i have to face more agressive temptations
we are in a spiritual warfare wether we want it or not. a lot of the bible is about that
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Trump suggests he’ll release Jeffrey Epstein ‘client list’ if elected: ‘I’d have no problem with it’

Kash Patel unloads all blame for botched Epstein probe onto ex-Trump official

“I know that there's a lot of talk about Epstein, and I'm here to testify that the original sin in the Epstein case was the way it was initially brought by Mr. [Alexander] Acosta back in 2006,” Patel said, testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Acosta would later say that he offered Epstein the plea deal because he was told Epstein “belonged to intelligence,” that the matter was “above his paygrade” and that he should “leave it alone.”

Can we have the files on that part?
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Kathy Hochul endorses Zohran Mamdani’s bid for mayor


In this particular instance though, it wasn't raises that drove it up, it was OT due to the fact that they scaled back their force by 2,200 officers (which was about 14% staffing reduction of uniformed officers)
See, this is why it's a good idea to link your sources initially, rather than selectively quoting without attribution.

Seems like it was both. The overtime increase was $100 million since 2019, per your article. Considering the decrease in officers, that means there were still significant raises during that period (which you should expect there to be) in order to make up the differential. Also consider that as salary increases, the cost of overtime increases, since overtime pays out at 1.5-2x (or more, depending on circumstances, sometimes) of the hourly rate. So the monetary cost of overtime isn't the best metric to measure it by. The article does not state how many hours of overtime were worked (relative to 2020), so it's hard to say for certain how significant the impact of reduced staffing on the actual amount of overtime worked was.
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Trump says suspect in custody in killing of Charlie Kirk

I am a MAGA Republican, and I never heard of the term until someone suggested that the shooter was one.
I heard of them years ago. They would show up and troll live speaking events with silly questions. Nothing to be taken seriously. I think they were a short-lived fad.
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Trump Orders Flags to Half-Staff for Charlie Kirk

But the person I replied to suggested MAGA is a group, but not a protected group. I think they are protected by the Bill of Rights.

Kirk was not a politician. We're talking about printing for the memorializing of a murder victim.
Not as a group. Bill of rights are individual rights.
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And one more scandal developing

The voters have given their verdict on the accusations against Trump.
Well. 12 of them did. Guilty. Not one charge. Dozens of them. And as you see, Mueller didn't indict him, only because the policy of the Justice Department is to not indict a sitting president.
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Trump Orders Flags to Half-Staff for Charlie Kirk

The issue there, again, was not “we don’t make wedding cakes” it was “we exclude your group from being allowed to have our wedding cakes.”
But the person I replied to suggested MAGA is a group, but not a protected group. I think they are protected by the Bill of Rights.
Incorrect, especially for printing businesses. They can refuse to print political action items.
Kirk was not a politician. We're talking about printing for the memorializing of a murder victim.
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Trump says ‘we have to beat the hell’ out of ‘radical left lunatics’ after Kirk killing

Pam Bondi Shows Katy Tur Was Right on Trump Weaponizing Grief

Kirk’s death became instant fodder for partisanship. Katy Tur’s much-malignedquestion on MSNBC — whether President Donald Trump might use the assassination “as a justification for something bad” — was clumsy in its timing and drew harsh criticism, even from me.

But the events that followed suggest that while she was premature in asking about how it would play out in terms of policy, she has been proven absolutely correct in her premise.
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The Conjunction of Opposites

Yes, in the beginning of life in the flesh for mankind this is true.

Satan has no flesh body. It's an adverse antiChrist spirit
Genesis 3:15 "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman], and between thy seed and her Seed; It shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise His heel.

But the verses in Ezekiel, Isaiah, Job, etc before that make it clear he was perfect -without blemish until iniquity was found in him.
Obviously not perfect by the time of the garden event.
And I see you continue to cherry pick certain verses leaving out the rest of the parable. Only a portion had the seed stolen from them. Some of it fell on good ground therefore not stolen.
I've always said as Jesus taught us, that man shall live by every word of God. Not just the ones we like, which is what you're doing. Matt. 4:4, Luke 4:4, Deut. 8:3
No, that is not my claim. Only that at the present time it's much easier for mature Christians to resist his spirit When he's here disguised as that angel of light that's when we need to have the full gospel armor on and in place if one is here during that time period.
Point being the tempter and his own operate within mankind.
You need to know the difference between living in sin/habitual sin and missing the mark/falling short. No one is without sin but there is a difference.
You're merely looking at the external act of sin. IF the tempter operates within, then the worst sinner who has been involved within inserting that temptation, and it really doesn't matter much from that observation. Every sin is technically within, because of that bad actor, not because of your external act of sin, or lack thereof.

You can subscribe to the fantasy that your sin is better than the other people's because it's not overt, but your less than overt sin really has nothing to do with sin and Satan, if you follow the logic.

Satan isn't any less the sinner in anyone.
Case in point, you pointed out 1st John 3:8 but fail to see verse 7 for what it is and we can tie both together so we can see the difference.

I John 3:7 "Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as He is righteous."
I don't ascribe any sin to the person, just so you know, per Paul, 2 Cor. 5:19

That does NOT mean sin's are not counted. They are counted against devils.
I John 3:8 "He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil."

John is making the distinction but you cannot.
You only want one side of the equation but not the other is all. Why would you have any problem condemning the tempter in you or anyone else???

In fact why don't you see that condition in others to begin with???

Why don't you admit you're tempted internally by the tempter and then this one sided good word only game might stop.
Believe me, no one will be able to drag Satan along with him when they're standing in Judgment.
You mean like this?:

Zech. 3:1-3
And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.
And the Lord said unto Satan, The Lord rebuke thee, O Satan; even the Lord that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?
Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood before the angel.

No Satan in the picture? Guess again.

Contrary to what you want to believe Jesus showed us all that Satan and devils were in mankind, period.

That hasn't changed. All have sin. Sin is of the devil. Paul himself had a devil in his own flesh, 2 Cor. 12:7 and had temptations in his flesh and mind. Romans 7:7-13, Gal. 4:14

So, yes, it's never just you or I or anyone else involved in these questions. It's us and the adversary and or his own
Who's making excuses? Show me where I provided any excuses? He's a dead man walking so to speak bound for the Lake of Fire.
I may have mistaken you for a Christian universalist, which I am, who actually loves our neighbors as ourselves.

My apologies.
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6,000 Years?

The Light God saw that He called Day before the Sun.
Hello Platte, I hope you are doing well. Here are my thoughts on the 'Glory of God'.
If we look at Revelation 21:23, what do we read? "The city has no need of the sun or of the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp."

This passage tells us that there will come a time when the created light sources—the sun and moon—are no longer necessary because God Himself will be the light.

When we consider this in light of Genesis 1, we see a parallel. On the first day of creation, God said, "Let there be light," and there was light (Genesis 1:3). The sun, moon, and stars were not created until the fourth day (Genesis 1:14-19). The Bible is not silent here; it is the chronological order of events that reveals the truth. The first light was not from a created object, but from God's own glory, just as it will be in the New Jerusalem.

Therefore, this is not a doctrine I hold to simply because it is required; it is a theological inference drawn directly from scripture's own testimony about God being the source of all light, both at the beginning and at the end.

I hope that helps explain my perspective. It's a topic I'm passionate about (all topics about God's glory that is), and I'm glad we could discuss it here.

Have a wonderful day/night.
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Trump says suspect in custody in killing of Charlie Kirk

I suppose Kanye could be described as sketchy, but a neo-nazi who's half Mexican and has lots of black fans? The actual Nazis must be rolling over in their graves.
Diversity is their strength!

And yes Kanye can be described as sketchy. He should be laying low and working out his stuff in private. Not bringing his Jew hate and Jew hating friends to the US presidents table.
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Trump says suspect in custody in killing of Charlie Kirk

I suppose Kanye could be described as sketchy, but a neo-nazi who's half Mexican and has lots of black fans? The actual Nazis must be rolling over in their graves.
Calling people Nazis, knowing that they are not, is to encourage violence against them. It makes people feel more comfortable and justified using violence on others if the victim is perceived as Adolf Hitler, even if their only crime was to disagree with the left.
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Eric Trump on Charlie Kirk’s Legacy and the Radical Left – “This Could Have Been the Greatest Mistake These People Have Ever Made” (VIDEO)

kids are being exposed to seeing not just other people, but there fellow classmates shot and killed.

Here's a collection of photos of school shooters:
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The bad news is that the Supreme Court says that police can now racially-profile for certain law enforcement purposes.

I just wish these same people upset and angered about the shooting of Kirk were as half as upset and angered come schools shootings and the sure fire the next school shooting. But they won't. Because after all, in the words of Kirk himself a few negligible deaths of innocents are tolerable for the sake of unfettered access to guns. I would assume he or his family would have never thought he was going to be one of those negligible.
Today's winner.
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Have you understood this?

And I meant Matt 16:18 -19 that it was Peter. that. was given that authority. and not the other 11 disciples .

dan p
You are mistaken about that. You have to take other scripture into account. I showed you Matthew 18:18 where Jesus said the same thing He said in Matthew 16:19 and He applied it to all of the disciples. Also, you need to consider Ephesians 2:19-22 where it talks about the church having the foundation of all the apostles and prophets and not just Peter. With Jesus Christ as the cornerstone. You need to take all of scripture into consideration whenever trying to interpret any given verse or passage.
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Charlie Kirk Didn’t Shy Away From Who He Was. We Shouldn’t, Either

That people are celebrating and offering winner badges to what is basically making arguements that Kirk derserved what he got is the problem. Regardless of what you or anyone else claims there is no justification in the murder of someone expressing their beliefs.

The reality is Kirk is not the only one. There has been hateful and violent speech and even calls from Dems for the death of certain figures. Even its celebration. Polls show around a 1/4 to a 1/3 of young Dems would support political violence and even the killing of opponents who disagreed.

This thinking has been cultivated in the very universities Kirk was engaging with. We had Leftist media trying to blame Kirk and are now sacked. In fact a number of people including teachers at these universities have been dismissed for such hateful responses.

The violence and murder we see now is the result of this rhetoric full stop. That people are attacking kirk and not the violence and killing and even celebrating or remaining silent on condemining this only to want to conflate the two is gross as far as I see. It reminds me of how Hamas was justified and the Jews attacked as the bad ones and the rise of antisemetism. Comes from the same evil spirit.

Yes it comes from both sides. But right now the majority is coming from the radical Left and the evidence is coming out in how they used their power to cultivate such a culture of violence, hate and division.

Any healing requires people to look at themselves and the reactions we are seeing in trying to justify this act and even celebrate it is only making it worse. Still the ideological capture is blinding people and in fact making them double down I think. .

The Escalating Terrorism Problem in the United States
From your link (dated 2020):

THE ISSUE


The United States faces a growing terrorism problem that will likely worsen over the next year. Based on a CSIS data set of terrorist incidents, the most significant threat likely comes from white supremacists, though anarchists and religious extremists inspired by the Islamic State and al-Qaeda could present a potential threat as well. Over the rest of 2020, the terrorist threat in the United States will likely rise based on several factors, including the November 2020 presidential election.
...This analysis makes several arguments. First, far-right terrorism has significantly outpaced terrorism from other types of perpetrators, including from far-left networks and individuals inspired by the Islamic State and al-Qaeda. Right-wing attacks and plots account for the majority of all terrorist incidents in the United States since 1994, and the total number of right-wing attacks and plots has grown significantly during the past six years. Right-wing extremists perpetrated two thirds of the attacks and plots in the United States in 2019 and over 90 percent between January 1 and May 8, 2020. Second, terrorism in the United States will likely increase over the next year in response to several factors. One of the most concerning is the 2020 U.S. presidential election, before and after which extremists may resort to violence, depending on the outcome of the election. Far-right and far-left networks have used violence against each other at protests, raising the possibility of escalating violence during the election period.
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Trump Orders Flags to Half-Staff for Charlie Kirk

Some people think the government can compel you to make cakes for gays.
The issue there, again, was not “we don’t make wedding cakes” it was “we exclude your group from being allowed to have our wedding cakes.”
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Revelation 12 walk through

You can't make sense of it because you assume I referred to "two Israels," when I didn't.
That's how it comes across.

It is "True Israel" within "Israel" proper.
That comes across as two different Israels. One that you call "Israel proper". The basis of being part of that Israel is only on one's DNA. And the other you call "True Israel" which consists only of "faithful Jews". You can say it's one Israel within another or a subset, but you are still coming across as if you are referring to two different Israels. One that's based on nationality and faith and one that's based on nationality only.

It is faithful Jews among many Jews, some of who remain and some of who leave forever. But all who remain, faithful or not, remain "Jews."

If I have a church full of people, and all of them are Christians I would say that they are all "Christians." But inasmuch as only *some* of them are "faithful" I can say that only some of them are "faithful Christians."
So, in the case of the Jews, why not just call them either faithful or unfaithful instead of referring to "Natural Israel" and "True (or Faithful) Israel"?

The unfaithful Christians may decide to leave Christianity entirely, or they may eventually repent. But those who do not leave entirely do not stop being called "Christians."

Those who are unfaithful and do not leave Christianity entirely do not become "nonChristians." Rather, only *some* of them fall away completely, and these would no longer be Christians.

In the case of Israel we would call them all "Israel" and only *some* of them "Faithful Israel."
Why talk of them as a separate entity that you call "Faithful Israel" when you only believe in one Israel and not two Israels? Are you not interested in being clear? Why not just refer to faithful Israelites and unfaithful Israelites from (what you believe to be) the one Israel?

In this case we know that God got so incensed with Unfaithful Israel that he disowned them and called them "Not My People."

I think that throws you off and makes you think that "Not My People" have stopped being "Israel." But this is just sort of a way of threatening those who are unfaithful with being cut off permanently. In reality, "Unfaithful Israel" was owned again to be called "Israel, My People." This is in Hosea.
God's people are only those who have faith. Don't make something simple into something complicated. This doesn't mean that those who do not have faith right now can never come to have faith and become part of God's people, of course. But, this is very simple. God's people are those who have faith. If you don't have faith, you're not a child of God.

Galatians 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

They never stopped being "Israel." But if they completely turn away from their God forever, they stop living in Israel as well and are forced to join another nation. They are apostates who then become a different nation. They are no longer part of Israel!

You don't have to agree. But I hope this helps you to understand my position?
Sorry, no, I don't understand your position. I think you make things far more complicated than they are.
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