rambot said:

Wow. I sincerely hope not.

There are a lot of aspects of his life that do no coincide with how I think christians should comport themselves.

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There are no perfect Christians. And there are no perfect non-Christians.

Although I notice that most liberals who try to use Christ as an argument for how right wingers should conduct themselves are not usually believers themselves. I'm not saying that as my own impression, they will tell you straight out.

rjs330 said:

Your welcome and it is expert medical opinion.

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oh yeah? What do you do for a living?

iluvatar5150 said:

Thank you for your expert medical opinion.

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Your welcome and it is expert medical opinion.

rambot said:

You're wrong.

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Im correct.

Oompa Loompa said:

Oh I bet. Going back on topic, I am sure Robinson's gay lover knew more about him and his hard leftist ideological tendencies and motivations than his parents. Why? Because Robinson kept them hidden from them.

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IT's 100% possible yes. But it's also possible he just hid a certain part of it from them.

The Liturgist said:

I’m really baffled as to why some members want to partake of the Euchaeist of churches which believe in a doctrine, the Real Presence, which they reject.

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The 'real presence' has become a divisive demand rather than a Grace as the Wind of the Spirit blows.

rjs330 said:

Gender surgery isnt one of them. You cant fix a mental health issue with cosmetic surgery.

What abiut what about what about. Are you going to start what about every possible cosmetic surgery and determine if its necessary and why?

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Can you not follow your own argument to its logical conclusion?

You're the one complaining about the government paying for cosmetic surgery. As an insurer, the government either pays for all cosmetic surgeries; it pays for none of them; or it pays for some of them. Which is it? You obviously don't want it to pay for all of them. What I'm trying to determine is whether you think it should pay for some or none. If it's none, then okay, end of discussion. But if it's some, then what are the criteria for determining which ones get covered and which ones don't?

Oh look, look at that, here we are, examining "every possible cosmetic surgery and determin[ing] if its necessary and why"

rjs330 said:

You dont fix mental illness with cosmetic surgery.

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Thank you for your expert medical opinion.

rambot said:

I mean, let's pretend doctors didn't know what to do and they came to you for answers....

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We don't need to pretend. They don't know what to do. Thats why they turned to WPATH for answers and now we know what a corrupt and fake organization that is. We have research done now by plenty of countries who have shown it's not effective in solving the problems. And there is NO research that proves it is.

They need mental health care to work through the issues and cope with the problems that come with the condition, providing they are REALLY trans and not suffering from other problems or trauma that has led them down the trans pathway. They may just be autogynaphelia.

Servus said:

My fantasy is better than your conspiracy theory.

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I have no doubt it's more pleasant.

iluvatar5150 said:

Because the government is a provider of health insurance to a lot of people and lots of cosmetic corrective procedures are covered by insurance.

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Gender surgery isnt one of them. You cant fix a mental health issue with cosmetic surgery.

iluvatar5150 said:

What about cleft palate correction? That’s cosmetic, too.

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What abiut what about what about. Are you going to start what about every possible cosmetic surgery and determine if its necessary and why? Not going to participate in that. You dont fix mental illness with cosmetic surgery.

iluvatar5150 said:

The only reason they didn’t have the chance to kill anybody is because some doors were barricaded and once they were breached and the woman at the vanguard took a bullet, the rest got the hint.

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So you say. What YOU think might have happened is irrelevant. It didn't.

Ed Parenteau said:

Ezekiel is having a vision that appears as a city, not a material city, a spiritual city fulfilled in Christ. After all, the last verse names the city.

Ezekiel 48:
35The perimeter of the city will be 18,000 cubits, and from that day on the name of the city will be:
THE LORD IS THERE.”

All we have to do now, is find out where the Lord said He would be and as Ezekiel said, would be from that day on.
Matthew 18:18-20
Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. / Again, I tell you truly that if two of you on the earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by My Father in heaven. / For where two or three gather together in My name, there am I with them.”
Ephesians 2:19-22
Therefore you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of God’s household, / built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus Himself as the cornerstone. / In Him the whole building is fitted together and grows into a holy temple in the Lord. ...

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AND we , the Body. of Christ will taken to be with Christ as written. in 1 Thess 4:14-17 then 2 Thess 2:4-9 there will

the building of the temple where the anti-christ will sit saying. that he is god !!

dan p

Oompa Loompa said:

DNA tests are pretty accurate dont you think? Kinda hard to get it wrong.

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No. It is not.. Thanks for showing another aspect of the debate you are unfamiliar with

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Most of these on the surface provide any clear indication of gender (some do....but it is not as "simple" as that)...to say nothing of the other DOZENS of internal physical sex markers or other types of intersex that exist that are not necessarily chromosomal.

Isn't it interesting that we assign an intersex kid at birth and sometimes they still manage to "feel" a certain gender; even if it's the one they weren't "assigned".

Richard T said:

Yes, I agree with your premise about many contemporary worship songs. I can say I like the songs though I have not gone over the lyrics yet. There is some good style and sounds in there. A mix of Bob Bennet, America, Hall and Oates with even some Tim Weisburg. In the opening solo that sounds like a flute though perhaps synthesized, I was wondering what an Irish flute would sound like there? Love the more classical flute sound though in the later songs. Thanks for sharing them with me. I was going to say too that you might consider copyrighting your songs if you do not already do so. God bless!

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It's quite a blessing for you to list the artists that these songs remind you of. You are right about the flutes, I make them out of bamboo after the bansuri style of India. It's quite similar to the Irish flute in the tone and range. Some are larger or smaller giving them a different range. Thanks so much for your comments, I am smiling!

As far as the lyrics, many of them are phrases that appear in scripture with standard concepts being reworded for lyric flow. I've enjoyed writing the songs with the bible in front of me, sometimes in awe over how connected the word is to itself with so many cross references and tie ins from the old and the new testaments.

Most of my lyrics are simple and basic declarations of faith, loving Jesus and admitting need for God. I do have copyrights on my list of things to do. Thanks for reminding me . . .

God bless you too!

Oompa Loompa said:

Sure. Tyler Robinson did a good job closing the door on inconvenient truths, and the left celebrated it.

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Yes, many people think this tactic is effective.

durangodawood said:

Closing the door on inconvenient truths is good tactic for peace of mind.

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Sure. Tyler Robinson did a good job closing the door on inconvenient truths, and the left celebrated it.

Tropical Wilds said:

I already know the definitions of those words. Sexual deviance implies illegality or away from social, cultural, and consensual (within the party) activities. Obviously, I'm not OK with lack of consent regardless of who it is or what their beliefs are, but the rest of it is pretty mainline stuff. Mainline enough that you can imagine it easily and get upset about it occurring. Mainline enough that some of it is enjoyed by heterosexual couples just as much and maybe more (occasionally... YMMV).

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Wrong. According to the psychological dictionary, sexual deviancy is any sexual behaviour that is seen to be different from the norms we expect. You dont think LGBT is sexual deviance because the liberals have tried for decades to normalize it. I refuse to allow the liberal woke agenda to gain another inch of ground in this culture war. Not only are conservatives going to stand their ground, we are going to take back what was lost. Therefore, I reject your argument or opinion. LGBT is by definition, sexual deviation along with beastiality, polygamy, and polyamorism.

N., Sam M.S., "SEXUAL DEVIANCY," in PsychologyDictionary.org, April 13, 2013,

As to heresy, we may also become misguided. Paul reminds us


12 For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and powers, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places


The spiritual warfare is real, but it does not involve persecution death and destruction. Neither should gross error and heresy be tolerated. The devil is crafty, he plays on our fear of conflict and likes to accuse us of being disruptive, even if we are only engaged in a battle of wits


People love to blame the Catholic Church for persecution, but we see from Jeremiah 6, if we stop fighting the good fight, give in to sin and say peace, peace when there is no peace, God brings calamity upon us

14 And they healed the breach of the daughter of my people disgracefully, saying: Peace, peace: and there was no peace. 15 They were confounded, because they committed abomination: yea, rather they were not confounded with confusion, and they knew not how to blush: wherefore they shall fall among them that fall: in the time of their visitation they shall fall down, saith the Lord.

16 Thus saith the Lord: Stand ye on the ways, and see and ask for the old paths which is the good way, and walk ye in it: and you shall find refreshment for your souls. And they said: we will not walk. 17 And I appointed watchmen over you, saying: Hearken ye to the sound of the trumpet. And they said: We will not hearken. 18 Therefore hear, ye nations, and know, O congregation, what great things I will do to them. 19 Hear, O earth: Behold I will bring evils upon this people, the fruits of their own thoughts: because they have not heard my words, and they have cast away my law. 20 To what purpose do you bring me frankincense from Saba, and the sweet smelling cane from a far country? your holocausts are not acceptable, nor are your sacrifices pleasing to me.

Too frequently in congregations we are told to tolerate sin. One has a porn addiction, another is greedy, another steals all attention to themselves, another has their daughter abort a child because they do not want the shame of having an illegitimate grandchild. Nothing gets done. If one objects, they are labeled as harsh, judgmental and unforgiving, so we just sit back, clap our hands, play pretend church and put on the false smile. Righteous deeds are no longer honored, but popularity rules the day. If one is to mention penance, they are shunned. This should not be

No, I do not wish to promote a physical war against heretics. We cannot change their minds by force, but neither do we encourage their deeds by tolerance
We speak up and say this is not right. If we do not repent, God is not going to say don’t worry, you can’t lose your salvation. If we are not heard, we leave. Scripture says if they endure not sound doctrine, have a form of godliness, but deny its power, from such turn away
I often wondered what form of godliness but deny its power meant. Some people treat grace as just forgiveness of sins, which then gives them license to commit more. Some even brag that they are just as bad a sinner after 40 years in the faith as when they first believed. They deny that grace gives us the power to overcome sin and strive for holiness and perfection. A person with grace accepts correction and loves his enemies. One without cries leave me alone, you are judging me, and offers every kind of excuse not to repent, nor has a desire to do so.


No no, we do not learn Christ that way. We proclaim the Gospel of Our Lord, who is mighty to save and grants virtue to anyone that asks it of Him. The battle against sin is a worthy one. No Christian should think he is getting to heaven on a technicality of not being able to lose his salvation if he refuses to stop committing the mortal sins listed in scripture. Scripture is clear

1 Cor 6
9- Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers 10 Nor the effeminate, nor liers with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor railers, nor extortioners, shall possess the kingdom of God.


God has said He will forgive all sins, but we must make them part of our past and not justify them as we continue to commit them and refuse to repent.
No, I will not kill heretics, neither will I tell them they are saved. I don’t care how many times they say the name of Jesus. We are reminded not to take the name of the Lord in vain. If we are overcome by the habit of sin, we need to take a stance of penance not arrogance. God will give grace to the humble and you will see the power of God’s grace save you from sin that once so easily beset you. That is what He did for me, and will do for all who asks.

Yes, I agree with your premise about many contemporary worship songs. I can say I like the songs though I have not gone over the lyrics yet. There is some good style and sounds in there. A mix of Bob Bennet, America, Hall and Oates with even some Tim Weisburg. In the opening solo that sounds like a flute though perhaps synthesized, I was wondering what an Irish flute would sound like there? Love the more classical flute sound though in the later songs. Thanks for sharing them with me. I was going to say too that you might consider copyrighting your songs if you do not already do so. God bless!

Servus said:

Why do you keep picking on black people?

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that is some poor reading comprehension.

Larniavc said:

“Immiggants! I knew it was them!
Even when it was the bears
I knew it was them!”

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D’oh! Silly me!

Bring it on!

Hentenza said:

I stated that I disagreed with you opinion.

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And?

Hentenza said:

Here is Hilary Clinton voting record. Her vote in social issues is primarily progressive not center left.

Hillary Clinton on the Issues

www.ontheissues.org

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I dunno, looks pretty center-left, verging into center-right in places (criminalizing flag burning?), to me. Anything specific in there that you want to call out as "far left"?

Hentenza said:

Why does this matter? My premise was that the progressive left is running the Democratic Party. Both houses play a role.

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That may be your initial premise, but I was specifically addressing your claim about Harris and Clinton being "far left" based on their voting records in post #101.

Hentenza said:

Btw there are 2 senators that are members of the CPC with the other one being Lisa Rochester.

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Is she? She's not on the list of members on their website. Regardless, still not Kamala Harris or Hillary Clinton.

Oompa Loompa said:

I dont care.

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Closing the door on inconvenient truths is good tactic for peace of mind.