ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live after comments on Charlie Kirk

[durangodawood]

Why would they need to?

Doesnt matter. They did.

 

[RDKirk]

Meh, brainwashed thralldom ain't so bad.

I wish I were confident that you were joking.

But that is, indeed, one of the three components of classical fascism as described by the fascists themselves: Political irrationalism.

The other two components are:

Organicism: A “blood and soil” concept where a certain people are the rightful inheritors of the nation.

Absolutism: The will of those people is embodied by a single Inspired Leader.

At this point, all three exist in MAGA.

 

[wing2000]

It was the right move by ABC.

I'm continually disappointed by how many of my fellow Americans do not value the 1st Amendment.

Free speech for me, but not for thee eh?

 

[wing2000]

"On the podcast of right-wing influencer Benny Johnson on Wednesday, chair of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Brendan Carr said that Kimmel’s words were part of a “concerted effort to try to lie to the American people” and that the FCC was “going to have remedies that we can look at.” “Frankly, when you see stuff like this,” he said, “I mean look, we can do this the easy way or the hard way. These companies can find ways to change conduct and take action, frankly, on Kimmel, or there’s going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.”

Carr explained: "There's actions we can take on licensed broadcasters. And frankly, I think that it’s really sort of past time that a lot of these licensed broadcasters themselves push back on Comcast and Disney and say…'We're not gonna run Kimmel anymore...because we licensed broadcasters are running the possibility of fines or license revocation from the FCC.'"

The largest operator of ABC affiliates, Nexstar—which needs FCC approval for a $6.2 billion merger—said it would stop airing Kimmel’s show from its stations. Then ABC suspended Kimmel’s show."

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[Tuur]

I wish I were confident that you were joking.

But that is, indeed, one of the three components of classical fascism as described by the fascists themselves: Political irrationalism.

The other two components are:

Organicism: A “blood and soil” concept where a certain people are the rightful inheritors of the nation.

Absolutism: The will of those people is embodied by a single Inspired Leader.

At this point, all three exist in MAGA.

Fascism is a political system conveniently represented by the Roman faces. The core belief of fascism is that different elements of society are so different that they must be ruled by a strong central government, and all things must conform to the interest of the State. In the fascist model, businesses are mostly privately owned, but must do the dictates of the State. Civil liberties are antipathy to the fascist as the needs of the individual are seen as outweighed by the needs of the State.

The flaw is focusing on the various effects of fascism as belonging only to fascist systems when they are part and parcel of any totalitarian government. Fascism and communism are kissing cousins, but good luck getting them to admit it, with communism taking a different approach to socialism. There is no difference between the totalitarian aspects of the two, yet those aspects can exist in monarchies as well.

(Stands back and waits for the impassioned arguments that this only happens on the right and never, ever, ever on the left).

 

[Tuur]

I'm continually disappointed by how many of my fellow Americans do not value the 1st Amendment.

Free speech for me, but not for thee eh?

The First Amendment begins with "Congress shall make no law." ABC isn't congress or government, Neither is CF, which enforces rules of behavior.

Kimmel can stay that all day long. ABC has chosen not to carry it. No one is preventing Kimmel from speaking his mind, but just because he says something doesn't mean ABC has to air it.

Writers are very familiar with the process. Manuscripts end up in the slush pile, where they may or may not be judged worthy of purchase. And despite all the rejection slips that every writer receives, I've never heard an author say the editors were suppressing his or her's 1st Amendment rights by not buying their manuscript.

 

[RDKirk]

Fascism is a political system conveniently represented by the Roman faces. The core belief of fascism is that different elements of society are so different that they must be ruled by a strong central government, and all things must conform to the interest of the State. In the fascist model, businesses are mostly privately owned, but must do the dictates of the State. Civil liberties are antipathy to the fascist as the needs of the individual are seen as outweighed by the needs of the State.

The flaw is focusing on the various effects of fascism as belonging only to fascist systems when they are part and parcel of any totalitarian government. Fascism and communism are kissing cousins, but good luck getting them to admit it, with communism taking a different approach to socialism. There is no difference between the totalitarian aspects of the two, yet those aspects can exist in monarchies as well.

(Stands back and waits for the impassioned arguments that this only happens on the right and never, ever, ever on the left).

The three components I listed are, when together, make up fascism...as defined by the fascists themselves. Read, for instance, "Fundamental Ideas," by Mussolini and Giovanni Gentile and "Political and Social Doctrine" by Mussolini.

Fascism does not, for instance, identify any particular economic system. Fascism will adopt whatever mode of economics is necessary to support its governmental aims. Anytime someone tells you that a fascism government must have a specific kind of economic system is simply wrong. The fascists themselves never said such.

Notice, also, I never said totalitarianism was specific to fascism. Totalitarianism is not even one of the three fundamental components.

 

[RDKirk]

The First Amendment begins with "Congress shall make no law." ABC isn't congress or government, Neither is CF, which enforces rules of behavior.

Kimmel can stay that all day long. ABC has chosen not to carry it. No one is preventing Kimmel from speaking his mind, but just because he says something doesn't mean ABC has to air it.

Writers are very familiar with the process. Manuscripts end up in the slush pile, where they may or may not be judged worthy of purchase. And despite all the rejection slips that every writer receives, I've never heard an author say the editors were suppressing his or her's 1st Amendment rights by not buying their manuscript.

This is, however, a chilling development, not different from the blacklists of the McCarthy era...which were also voluntary.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

The First Amendment begins with "Congress shall make no law." ABC isn't congress or government, Neither is CF, which enforces rules of behavior.

See post #104. The issue isn't that ABC chose to cancel his show after what he said. The issue is that ABC chose to cancel his show after the chairman of the FCC threatened them with legal action if they didn't.

How would you feel about the chairman of the FCC under Biden threatening Fox with fines and suspension of their broadcast license if they didn't fire their commentators who perpetuated the lies about the 2020 election?

 

[wing2000]

The First Amendment begins with "Congress shall make no law." ABC isn't congress or government, Neither is CF, which enforces rules of behavior.

Good point. However, the government was clearly demanding that he be removed. Disney/ABC would not have fired him were it not for pressure from the FTC Chair.


Kimmel’s suspension was announced hours after Federal Communications Commission Chairman Brendan Carr criticized the comedian and implied that the FCC could retaliate against those who aired him.


...and then there's this: [Nexstar owns ABC stations in 30 markets]


Notably, Nexstar is seeking the Trump administration’s approval to acquire Tegna, another big group of U.S. stations. The deal requires the FCC to loosen the government’s limits on broadcast station ownership.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/tv/2025/09/18/jimmy-kimmel-suspension-celebrities-react/

 

[Servus]

I wish I were confident that you were joking.

But that is, indeed, one of the three components of classical fascism as described by the fascists themselves: Political irrationalism.

The other two components are:

Organicism: A “blood and soil” concept where a certain people are the rightful inheritors of the nation.

Absolutism: The will of those people is embodied by a single Inspired Leader.

At this point, all three exist in MAGA.

Sounds great. More please.

Perhaps you should ask them.

So you're just going to construct a fantasy world that fits your preferred perspective? That must be nice.

My fantasy is better than your conspiracy theory.

 

[Servus]

Jimmy Kimmel Live doesn't even appear in the 250 most watched shows.

https://ustvdb.com/ratings/shows/

 

[iluvatar5150]

My fantasy is better than your conspiracy theory.

I have no doubt it's more pleasant.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Jimmy Kimmel Live doesn't even appear in the 250 most watched shows.

https://ustvdb.com/ratings/shows/

You guys are celebrating having canceled a show no one was even watching?

 

[Servus]

I have no doubt it's more pleasant.

Actually it's more boring because it's just simply that the show had lousy ratings. Not even in the top 250. But take heart, Gutfeld is number 22 on the list.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Actually it's more boring

In my world, boring and pleasant are nearly synonymous.

 

[Servus]

In my world, boring and pleasant are nearly synonymous.

What color is the sky in your world?

 

[BPPLEE]

Hooray for right-wing censorship! Hooray!

Yeah, like when they canned Roseanne Barr for free speech

 

[Chesterton]

Do you expect anyone to believe you haven't seen the clip? It was all over the news when it happened, and has been recently too. But I'll let you put forth a modicum this time.

Of course I've heard the clip. Why else would I be talking about it? If you can't figure it out, what he was saying was if there were no such thing as affirmative action, I would not wonder about a black pilot. But because of affirmative action, it can be legitimate to have a concern.

It's cued up:

 

[iluvatar5150]

What color is the sky in your world?

I'd have to go outside to know that.