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rambot · Sep 15, 2025

Aldebaran said:
So what if he was white? What does that have to do with anything?

The racists are saying that white men need to fight back.....but it doesn't make sense.

What does "white men fight back" have to do with anything?

Tropical Wilds · Sep 15, 2025

essentialsaltes said:
'You want a fight?' Nancy Mace demands schools be defunded over reactions to Kirk's death
"We are urging Secretary of Education Linda McMahon to take decisive action to cut off federal funding from any elementary, secondary, and post-secondary educational institution refusing to hold teachers or administrators accountable for celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk," Mace wrote on X, sharing a signed letter to United States Secretary of Education Linda McMahon.

Thoughtcrime cancellation metastasis.

I like the thought process that says if a teacher does something they don’t like, they’ll punish the entire community’s next generation.

Something something party that values life and protecting children something something something.

essentialsaltes · Sep 15, 2025

Fifteen are retiring from public office with the rest running for a different office — 11 looking to become governor of their state, 10 looking to make the jump from House to Senate and one, Texas Republican Rep. Chip Roy, is looking to become his state's attorney general.

There are more Republicans signaling their desire to exit Washington (27) than Democrats (10).

probinson · Sep 15, 2025

The Barbarian said:
And ultimately, that is what killed him. A right-winger so indoctrinated that he put Goyper slogans on his bullets, to kill someone for not being extreme right enough. Nick Fuentes targeted Kirk for hatred, and one of them acted on it.

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A MAGA Groyper? Charlie Kirk shooter Tyler Robinson's political leaning unclear; Nick Fuentes reacts to 'pure evil' - The Times of India

Soon after Charlie Kirk's assassination, some on the political left quickly spread a baseless theory that the conservative podcaster was killed by a follower of the ultra-right-wing group called Groypers.

https://www.axios.com/2025/09/15/groyper-charlie-kirk-nick-fuentes-tyler-robinson

Tropical Wilds · Sep 15, 2025

Chesterton said:
First ask yourself what the intended purpose of a political assassination like this is.

Why would I ask myself? I didn’t assasinate him so I have no idea what the motive could be. Historically, sometimes it’s because they don’t like the person, sometimes they don’t like the movement, sometimes they want to impress Jodie Foster, sometimes they’re just nuts and have no real purpose. Whatever it is, I don’t think the goal was to make people forget Kirk ever existed and have his footprint vanish overnight.

Chesterton said:
Then watch just the first 60 seconds of the below video and ask yourself "is this what the murderer intended, or is this the opposite of what he intended?" I don't know if Kirk was a household name, there were probably lots of boomers and other people who didn't know of him, but everyone around the world knows now. And they will be looking into his message and spreading it. I saw video of a young lady at the Unite The Kingdom rally in London holding a hand-made sign that read "Charlie Kirk brought me here".

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Is this another “I am Charlie Kirk” video? Not since a bunch of celebrities sang “Imagine” during lockdowns have I ever been touched by such a profound performative whatever.

This thing, like all things, brings a lift to a person and their cause. Some out of grief, some out of attention, some just because. I’m not surprised there was a lift. Even a big one. Let’s see what it all means when we get some distance between the assassination and now.

Somehow I doubt in 2074, 49 years from now, when we are locked down during our next pandemic, people will unite by filming a video of themselves saying “I am Charlie Kirk” or “prove me wrong” to help them get through, like they did “Imagine” by the also murdered John Lennon.

Say it aint so · Sep 15, 2025

iluvatar5150 said:
Waiting for the cries of outrage from the Hunter-must-be-jailed crowd...

They are absolutely immune to this. It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to justify Trump's actions, but this (and it's not the only quid pro quo) is too exhausting to even try. Radio silence.

Hvizsgyak · Sep 15, 2025

Meowzltov said:
What makes something good and another thing evil?

Anything that leads you to know and love God is good and anything that leads you away from God is evil.

Meowzltov said:
When you can answer that, you will understand why so many, including many Christians, no longer see things like LGBTQ as sinful, and don't freak out if someone identifies closely with a particular animal.

So now that I have told you what makes something good and what makes something evil (and I didn't say "God says so"), I want you to understand that those people (including some Christians) are being lead away from God by these distracting selfish desires. Hopefully, they will be lead back to God's Truth.

iluvatar5150 · Sep 15, 2025

Lukaris said:
This sounds to me like a battle of ideas for persuasion and action at the ballot box.

lol, when has that ever been an approach of Trump's? The guy led a months-long con about the 2020 election that resulted in his operatives being prosecuted for various forms of election fraud and his fans attempting an insurrection at the capitol.

Most ( not all) of the visible mental insanity I am seeing seems to be from leftist ideology in the assassins and the those celebrating the assassinations.

The same day as the Kirk murder, a white supremacist shot up a high school. A couple months ago, a crazy right-winger murdered a MN state legislator and her husband. A few years ago, a right-wing militia group was plotting to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer. When somebody broke into Nancy Pelosi's house and attacked her husband, conservatives mocked him for months and spread conspiracy theories about it being a gay lovers spat.

If you're seeing most of the insanity coming from the left, it's because you've become inured to the meaning of what gets bandied around the right constantly.

Trump has been a genuine assassination target.

As have people on the left.

rambot · Sep 15, 2025

RileyG said:
Certainly, those white men are a minority?

Yes.

Say it aint so · Sep 15, 2025

Vambram said:
Jenner is an exception. But she doesn't agree with the leftist obsession over transgendering minors.

Why are you so obsessed with the sexuality of other people?

essentialsaltes · Sep 15, 2025

Rep. Derrick van Orden is on quite a cancellation roll on Twitter.

MarkRohfrietsch · Sep 15, 2025

MarkRohfrietsch said:
Sadly, most in our Parish still have a hard time with the Elevation, genuflecting, and presenting the cup and host at the Pax Domini, despite having it explained numerous times.

Not all of our Pastors will do the elevation; but most do present at the Pax. Less than 1/2 Genuflect; about the same number that use Chasubles.

Your Discos sounds much like our Ciborium. We have two, one has what we believe to be adequate to serve Mass, the second holds unconsecrated hosts in reserve. If we run short, we take some and Pastor will consecrate those before distribution. Likewise, the crewet holds only unconsecrated wine, should more be required, Pastor will empty the chalice, dispense more wine into it, and then consecrate it as well. Below is a page from the Altar Guild Manual that I put together when we started using a more traditional set-up.

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If anyone is interested I would gladly share the whole document with them; it can be used as a template for any altar guild for any setup.

Some better Pictures:

FutureAndAHope · Sep 15, 2025

BelieveItOarKnot said:
Did the evil present within anyone "choose Jesus to save them?" It never happened.

The bible throughout says that by our deeds we will be judged. The cross is a part of that. God opens our eyes, and ears, to His truth. If our heart softens toward God, we will accept it, if we have heardened our heart in sin, we will reject it. MAny people stuggle for years "deciding" if they willl follow Christ. There are many arguments for and against, we gravitate toward a decision.

Joh 3:18-21 "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God."

Salvation definitely has a "deeds" component.

Joh 14:22-24 Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, "Lord, how is it that You will manifest Yourself to us, and not to the world?" Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.

There is definitely a point where God opens our eyes, but our reasoning, choices, deeds, are important to the outcome.

Job 36:10-12 He also opens their ear to instruction, And commands that they turn from iniquity. If they obey and serve Him, They shall spend their days in prosperity, And their years in pleasures. But if they do not obey, They shall perish by the sword, And they shall die without knowledge.

Each of us daily make choices to sin or not, temptation is daily before us. But we must all strive against it.

Heb 12:4 You have not yet resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin.

Delvianna · Sep 15, 2025

bèlla said:
Hebrew for Christians has a lot of resources you might enjoy. Here’s a link to their page on holidays and the Passover is listed. They walk you through its celebration and include transliterated prayers if that appeals. Additional prayers are provided in light of the Messiah.

My personal experience with the holiday is from the Jewish perspective during our time at the synagogue. We aren’t messianic but we’ve maintained our adherence to some principles and modified others. Most notably the calendar. If you want to implement some messianic practices the link I shared will assist you.

~bella

Thank you muchly! I know of a few Jewish sites but no messianic ones, so this helps!

Lukaris · Sep 15, 2025

From the politico article.

I probably shouldn’t be out here talking to you in all fairness but we will be brave. And we have a great country. We have radical left lunatics out there and we just have to beat the hell out of them.”

The president added in a separate answer that he would urge his supporters to follow a nonviolent path in response to the shooting. “He [Kirk] was an advocate of nonviolence,” Trump said. “That’s the way I’d like to see people respond.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/11/trump-says-we-have-to-beat-the-hell-out-of-radical-left-lunatics-after-kirk-killing-00559170

This sounds to me like a battle of ideas for persuasion and action at the ballot box. Most ( not all) of the visible mental insanity I am seeing seems to be from leftist ideology in the assassins and the those celebrating the assassinations. Hardly any conservatives cheered the assassinations of democrats in Minnesota. Any who did needs exorcism from demonic insanity ( Psalm 7:9) .Trump has been a genuine assassination target. Then there is often unfounded liberal assumptions that conservatives are indifferent about school shootings. I tend to believe families who have suffered loss in school shootings vote liberal, conservative, don’t vote etc.

MarkRohfrietsch · Sep 15, 2025

The Liturgist said:
Indeed, the Orthodox likewise - what I meant was, outside of the liturgy, we do not engage in this, but that said, I do not object to the Roman Catholic practice; at one time I did, but since then I have come to regard Eucharistic adoration as a great tradition within their church that brings people into church for devotional prayer; unfortunately the Roman church has not had much luck in reversing the lack of Divine Office services or attendance since before the Council of Trent, so it is difficult to find a Roman Catholic church other than a cathedral or monastery or church connected with a religious order that has clergy in it, such as canons regular or friars, that celebrates Vespers, for example. Indeed of the Western churches only the Anglicans and the Western Rite Orthodox have had steady success in getting people to attend Divine Office services, but lately in Anglican churches these have been declining (in the UK, this is attributed in part to people listening to choral evensong via the BBC; another factor I would say has been the abolition of most of the boys choirs which used to be ubiquitous in Anglican churches and cathedrals; any church which has more than six boys of appropriate age should organize a boys’ choir. Interestingly enough every Coptic Orthodox church tends to have this since all of the youth are typically tonsured as Psaltis.

Additionally, not all Orthodox liturgies include the Elevation, for example, the Eastern Orthodox liturgy lacks it, but in the Syriac Orthodox liturgy, for example, the priest will elevate the chalice and diskos* simultaneously, crossing his arms as he does so.

*This is a paten that has a base on it, like the chalice, which makes for easier handling; i greatly prefer it to the Western paten particularly due to my arthritis, since I can just grasp the stem on the Diskos, and also it is larger which makes for easier handling of the leavened bread used by the Eastern Orthodox, Assyrians and most Oriental Orthodox except for the Armenian Apostolic Church.

Sadly, most in our Parish still have a hard time with the Elevation, genuflecting, and presenting the cup and host at the Pax Domini, despite having it explained numerous times.

Not all of our Pastors will do the elevation; but most do present at the Pax. Less than 1/2 Genuflect; about the same number that use Chasubles.

Your Discos sounds much like our Ciborium. We have two, one has what we believe to be adequate to serve Mass, the second holds unconsecrated hosts in reserve. If we run short, we take some and Pastor will consecrate those before distribution. Likewise, the crewet holds only unconsecrated wine, should more be required, Pastor will empty the chalice, dispense more wine into it, and then consecrate it as well. Below is a page from the Altar Guild Manual that I put together when we started using a more traditional set-up.

If anyone is interested I would gladly share the whole document with them; it can be used as a template for any altar guild for any setup.

Tinker Grey · Sep 15, 2025

Valletta said:
a move toward Marxism and socialism.

Apparently, you don't know what these words mean.

timothyu · Sep 15, 2025

Agreed but there is an aversion to the book of Enoch also so who is to say what may be divulged.

essentialsaltes · Sep 15, 2025

'You want a fight?' Nancy Mace demands schools be defunded over reactions to Kirk's death

"We are urging Secretary of Education Linda McMahon to take decisive action to cut off federal funding from any elementary, secondary, and post-secondary educational institution refusing to hold teachers or administrators accountable for celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk," Mace wrote on X, sharing a signed letter to United States Secretary of Education Linda McMahon.

Thoughtcrime cancellation metastasis.

FutureAndAHope · Sep 15, 2025

BelieveItOarKnot said:
Foreknowledge or predestination is believed by every Christian if you thought about it for a minute.

God PREDESTINED Satan and his messengers for the LoF.

Never was salvation for devils ever on His Agenda

Now do you believe in "predestination?" Surprise me.

In regard to devils your idea that they are "predestined" is not supported by Early Christian sources.

... Furthermore, I have proved in what has preceded, that those who were foreknown to be unrighteous, whether men or angels, are not made wicked by God’s fault, but each man by his own fault is what he will appear to be... (Justin Martyr 110 - 165, Dialoque with Trypho, Ch 140)

I said briefly by anticipation, that God, wishing men and angels to follow His will, resolved to create them free to do righteousness; possessing reason, that they may know by whom they are created, and through whom they, not existing formerly, do now exist; and with a law that they should be judged by Him, if they do anything contrary to right reason: and of ourselves we, men and angels, shall be convicted of having acted sinfully, unless we repent beforehand. But if the word of God foretells that some angels and men shall be certainly punished, it did so because it foreknew that they would be unchangeably [wicked], but not because God had created them so. So that if they repent, all who wish for it can obtain mercy from God: and the Scripture foretells that they shall be blessed, saying, ‘Blessed is the man to whom the Lord imputeth not sin;’... ( Justin Martyr 110 - 165, Dialoque with Trypho, Ch 141)

1. This expression [of our Lord], “How often would I have gathered thy children together, and thou wouldest not,” (Mat 23:37) set forth the ancient law of human liberty, because God made man a free [agent] from the beginning, possessing his own power, even as he does his own soul, to obey the behests (ad utendum sententia) of God voluntarily, and not by compulsion of God. For there is no coercion with God, but a good will [towards us] is present with Him continually. And therefore does He give good counsel to all. And in man, as well as in angels, He has placed the power of choice (for angels are rational beings), so that those who had yielded obedience might justly possess what is good, given indeed by God, but preserved by themselves. On the other hand, they who have not obeyed shall, with justice, be not found in possession of the good, and shall receive condign punishment: for God did kindly bestow on them what was good; but they themselves did not diligently keep it, nor deem it something precious, but poured contempt upon His super-eminent goodness. (Irenaeus120-202, Against Heresies - Book 4 Ch 37)

The Logos, too, before the creation of men, was the Framer of angels. And each of these two orders of creatures was made free to act as it pleased, not having the nature of good, which again is with God alone, but is brought to perfection in men through their freedom of choice, in order that the bad man may be justly punished, having become depraved through his own fault, but the just man be deservedly praised for his virtuous deeds, since in the exercise of his free choice he refrained from transgressing the will of God. Such is the constitution of things in reference to angels and men. And the power of the Logos, having in itself a faculty to foresee future events, not as fated, but as taking place by the choice of free agents, foretold from time to time the issues of things to come; (Tatian 110-172 AD, Address to the Greeks Chapter 7)

BCP1928 · Sep 15, 2025

Aldebaran said:
So what if he was white? What does that have to do with anything?

As for your questions, "Why are they fighting back and against whom? They don't even know if they can be angry at a leftist about this yet.", the assassin was in a sexual relationship with a transsexual. I wasn't aware that right-leaning conservatives were into such things. In fact, it's been actual transsexuals who have been doing the highly-publicized shootings lately, and they all have spewed anti-conservative rhetoric before doing their acts of violence.

What? Are you saying he can't be considered a conservative on any other issues because he broke the anti-trans rule?

PTW · Sep 15, 2025

Yogi’s Space Race

essentialsaltes · Sep 15, 2025

essentialsaltes said:
Hegseth team lashes out at Pentagon’s internal ‘Signalgate’ review
The attack on the Defense Department inspector general appears designed to undermine the inquiry’s legitimacy — even before its findings are made public. [The (former) Defense Department IG was one of the many fired by Trump early in Trump 2.0. The office is now led by an Acting IG.]

Pentagon watchdog has completed review of Hegseth’s use of Signal, sources say

Hegseth will now have the opportunity to comment and provide feedback on the Pentagon Inspector General’s findings, which is standard practice for such reviews, before the final report is provided to Congress in the coming days, the sources said. A version of it will likely be made public, one of the sources said.

Following that report [from the Atlantic journo], the top Republican and Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee requested an IG review to determine whether Hegseth violated any laws related to the handling of classified information or records retention for federal employees.

The inspector general examined whether anyone else could have physically entered the information into the Signal chat at Hegseth’s request, and asked witnesses whether others had access to his phone, CNN has reported. [Any fall guys around?]

The inspector general also received evidence that the military plans disclosed by Hegseth’s account were taken from a US Central Command document that was marked classified at the time.

Ophiolite · Sep 15, 2025

Getting back to Tommy Robinson: having suggested that calling him far right may be inaccurate given some of his positions (which I did not name) ChatGPT responded with a lengthy piece of which this was the conclusion:

Yes, it is reasonable to call Tommy Robinson far right, in that many of his positions, rhetoric, and associations align with what is commonly understood by the term in the UK context: anti-Islam, anti-immigration, national identity, populism, links to far-right groups, etc.
But it is also simplistic in the sense that the label doesn’t capture everything: the nuances of how he shifts tactics, how he frames his message, his particular blend of claims, the way he appeals to certain grievances rather than just ideological purity.
Also, there is value in distinguishing between “radical right / far right” as a spectrum (ranging from mainstream conservative nationalism to extreme xenophobic / racist ideology) vs. “fringe extremist” or “neo-fascist” etc. Depending on which end of the spectrum you place Robinson, the label may seem more or less apt.

My thought: Like most casual and convenient classification systems, while spectrums are better than a simple dichotomy, they hardly capture the full range of any position. A more relevant question is not "What is he politically?", but "How does he want to change society and which methods does he plan to use to do so?"

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Pentagon watchdog has completed review of Hegseth’s use of Signal, sources say