Korean Air to buy 103 Boeing jets as Trump pressures trading partners​

Always in His Presence said:

Can it be clearly seen in Scripture or is it just something 'alluded' to, but not contextually supported.

For simplicity sake, can I humbly ask that extemporaneous writings and history be minimized (please don't write 1,000 words) and Scripture be emphasized.

Let's start with one verse at a time, discuss the verse contextually and then go to the next - just a suggestion.

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"Purgatory" is not a Biblical concept.

There are only two groups of people, the redeemed and the condemned (Jn 3:18).

We are born condemned objects of wrath by our sinful nature (Eph 2:3).

We are redeemed by saving faith in the person and work of Jesus Christ (Eph 2:8-9).

bling said:

I agree πίστις comes from God after regeneration, but regeneration must be accepted by man,

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Being re-born is no more "accepted" by man that was his being born.

Man has nothing to do with either his birth or his rebirth.

rachelrising said:

Well, you need the Holy Spirit to develop a deepened spiritual life and walk as a Christian which Jesus asks. Most people do seem to get the Holy Spirit through baptism and being born again/and because of faith. Jesus said you need to be born of water and the Holy Spirit. It is his words.

The scripture to support church going in the Bible has been supported by ministers who own church's. This was in regards two critical scriptures the Colossians and Actts 15. The New Testatment supports church going and promotes it.

I would like to see what scipture you can show us here to say the New Testatment does not promote church going and are you a Christian. Some posters on this thread have said they were not Christian so I do ask.

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SabbathBlessings said:

This is not what this verse says, you are making it sound like God's Spirit is against God's Law. There is no "instead" in these verses as if its either or. Paul is contrasting what it means to be spiritually minded verses carnally minded. And his conclusion is the opposite of instead of according to God's laws.


Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who[a] do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.

What is the law of sin and death? Rom6:23 the wages of sin is death, so breaking God's law which is sin deserves death

3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh,

The flesh is what is weak, not the law. Paul said in the previous chapter the law is holy, just and good Rom7:12

Paul says

Rom7: 22 For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members

Paul is contrasting the war of sin with the flesh (that breaks God's law) with serving the law of God (Rom7:7) according to the inward man Heb8:10 2Cor3:3

Rom7:25 So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.

Paul in Chapter 8 talks about victory over the law of sin and it's not breaking God's laws, it's the opposite

Rom8: 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit

Serving the Spirit fulfills the righteous requirement of the law of God from the inside out (the inward man i.e. the New Covenant God's law in our hearts and minds) keeping them based on what God does in us if are cooperating. Those who are walking in the Spirit are not breaking God's laws, they are keeping them through the Spirit.

John 14:15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another [e]Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.


5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be [b]carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life (Mat 19:17-19) and peace (Isa48:18 Psa119:165).

This is what Paul says plainly as the lost, so if we are saying we can walk in His Spirit instead of obeying God's laws Paul flat out says thats serving the law of sin and being carnally minded which makes one an enemy to God.

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.


No one can keep the law without the Spirit, but the Spirit is leading us to keep God's laws, not break them. That's the spirit we don't want Isa8:20

The Holy Spirit is the One who wrote the Ten Commandments. Exo 31:18 Luke 11:20 Mat 12:28 The Holy Spirit is the One who convicts us of sin when we break them. 1John3:4 John16:8 if we hear His voice Heb3:7-19 The Holy Spirit is the One who helps us keep these commandments if we love Jesus and cooperate with Him. John14:15-18 The Holy Spirit only resides with those who obey Acts 5:32. No one is sealed by the Holy Spirit if being in rebellion to the law of God.

Isa 8:16 Bind up the testimony, Seal the law among my disciples.

God placed the Law that was written on tablets of stone to being written in the heart 2Cor3:3 its the same Law, but placed in a new location, the heart and this NC is established on the better promises of what God does in us, (fulfilling the righteous requirement of the law or keeping them) if we are not rebelling Rom8:7-8 but cooperating John14:15-18


Worshipping another god is not going to lead anyone to a greater deeper righteousness than obeying what God asked us to do if we love Him? Or breaking the least of these commandments doing the opposite of what Jesus said Mat5:19-30 is going to lead us to Christ when we are told those who say they know Him and do not keep His commandments is a liar and there is no truth in them 1John2:4 and Jesus will say at His Second Coming, I do not know you, depart from Me, ye who practices lawlessness,Mat7:23 this is not going to lead anyone to Christ. This has never worked out for anyone in all of Scriptures, it only separates us Isa59:2 Rev22:15 Mat7:21-23 obedience through love and faith reconciles 1John2:3 Rev14:12 Rev 22:14 but we are free to test any theory we want, even if our Heavenly Father warns against it.

Amen, we should pray for everything as I hope you will as well to these plain Scriptures.

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I am sorry that you missed the entirity of what was presented to focus on thiniest part of what was said.

Nithavela said:

Remember: when the looting starts, the shooting starts.

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Barstow police to step up patrols at grocery stores with millions set to lose SNAP benefits​

The Barstow Police Department said in a post on Facebook that it will be stepping up patrols around grocery stores, convenience stores and shopping centers.

Police added that the increased patrols are not in response to a specific incident but are a "preventive measure to maintain public safety, deter theft, and reassure the community that law enforcement is present and ready to help."

[Barstow is in San Bernardino County -- a redder part of CA that went for Trump in 2024 by 2 points; Harris won by 20% in the state.]

Elsewhere in Southern California, leaders are trying to provide impacted people with resources.

In light of the benefits delay, L.A. Care Health Plan, billed as the nation's largest publicly operated health plan, announced Tuesday it was providing $5.4 million to help provide food for impacted families. Of that amount, $5 million will go to the Los Angeles Regional Food Bank, YMCA of Metropolitan Los Angeles and Food Forward. The funding is expected to support 10,000 to 15,000 households in the county each week in November, according to the Health Plan.

The additional $400,000 will go toward advancing food security efforts and bolstering food distribution efforts in the county.

L.A. County officials have also allocated $10 million to the Los Angeles Regional Food Bank to expand its purchasing capacity, and to set up pop-up and drive-through distribution sites, in addition to the existing network of 940 pantries across the county.

Always in His Presence said:

Can it be clearly seen in Scripture or is it just something 'alluded' to, but not contextually supported.

For simplicity sake, can I humbly ask that extemporaneous writings and history be minimized (please don't write 1,000 words) and Scripture be emphasized.

Let's start with one verse at a time, discuss the verse contextually and then go to the next - just a suggestion.

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And in. the KJV BIBLE. there is no Greek word called PURGATORY , LIMBO. POPE , NUNS. OR COMFESSIOAL. !!

dan p

GoldenBoy89 said:

Is a government shutdown worth it to prevent that?

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That's one of the secrets of the success of modern conservatism. Every molehill is a hill to die on.

keras said:

'return' is not in my Bible, in that Parable.
The Lord will come unexpectedly on His Day of wrath. Which is not and cannot be the same Day as the glorious Return.

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Oh, so he's coming back twice?

keras said:

It is possible for me to live for another 36 years. I do expect to be in the Holy Land when Jesus Returns.

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So now the Lord's coming back in 36 years, not between 15-20?
You think you're going to live to be 120?

keras said:

EVERYONE must give account for their deeds. I will stand before God; knowing I have done what God asked me to do.

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I dispute that God would ask you to say something that is untrue and misinterpret his word.
But as long as you are willing to explain that.

keras said:

But thanks for thinking I might just be good enough to go to heaven.

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If you think that being in heaven is about your good deeds - forget end times, you've got fundamental problems.

rjs330 said:

The Democrats refused to provide the votes.

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They have no obligation to just give the republicans what they want. It’s the party in charge that should be finding ways to work out a deal with the minority party they need onboard to pass their agenda. Their refusal to work with democrats shows this shutdown is just as much GOP strategy as it is Democratic.

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That was the Democratic strategy. Its their fault the government shut down.

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It’s Congress’ fault.

Abraham1st said:

Matthew 7:15 BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many WONDERFUL WORKS?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.
Matthew 24:11 And MANY FALSE PROPHETS SHALL RISE, and shall deceive many.
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and FALSE PROPHETS, and shall shew great SIGNS AND WONDERS; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.


2 Thessalonians 2:7 For the MYSTERY OF INIQUITY doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and SIGNS AND LYING WONDERS,

2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be DAMNED WHO BELIEVED NOT THE TRUTH, BUT HAD PLEASURE IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.

2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to SALVATION THROUGH SANCTIFICATIOON OF THE SPIRIT AND BELIEF OF THE TRUTH:
14 Whereunto he CALLED YOU BY OUR GOSPEL, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Revelation 13:13 And he DOETH GREAT WONDERS, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

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The issue is a claim of faith.

Mt 7:22-23 is a claim of faith.

Valletta said:

Democrats wobble as pressure to end shutdown ramps up

Senate Democrats are taking a close look at a Republican proposal to pay all federal employees — including essential and furloughed workers — as they’re under new pressure from the nation’s largest federal workers union to pass a clean continuing resolution to reopen the government. They also...

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No way was the GOP going to allow more illegals to received taxpayer funded healthcare nor support a 1.5. trillion dollar new spending package including trans, LGBTQ, or DEI funding in foreign countries.

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Is a government shutdown worth it to prevent that?

Abraham1st said:

John addressed the book of John to the world, you see that at the start, just like you mention James and where he addresses wo he is writing to at the start, right ?

For anyone reading, and this is fairly straight forward, but just in case, i highlighted some, and I left separate other below..


John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; AND THE LIFE WS THE LIGHT OF MEN.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

John 1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

John 1:8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

John 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

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And since you believe that John is for the BODY. of CHRIST , how will. you explain John 3:5. I say unto you , UNLESS

one is BORN. of WATER and of the SPIRIT. , he cannot enter the Kingdom. of God ?? BORN of WATER. ??

and BORN OF THE SPIRIT. and means you born TWICE. ??

AND where is that KINGDOM GOING. TO BE CENTER AT ??

dan p

Apple Sky said:

Of course not, I know this.

I know that God didn't mean literal doors or there is a literally a tent in the sky for the sun, we know this as the sun is set in the firmament.
I know that the sea bursting from a womb doesn't represent a literal womb.
I know that Jesus isn't a door or a lamb.

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Well then why do you insist that some parts of Scripture ARE literal, when they are also poetic?
The literal dome of Genesis 1, for example, which is made of solid material - all because there is a verse somewhere which says it is LIKE molten glass?

There is now fierce debate over these Ho equations. The Vera Rubin telescope operators are also on the case, and will produce Ho information soon, done by their measurements. If those agree with my calculated Ho value of 71, you will have to accept my equations as truth. Then, the concept of a dynamic Aether will become necessary to accept the basis of my equations. It looks like the big bang hypothesis will soon fall. BB has misled too many for far too long. We cannot know the age of the universe.

bling said:

I agree πίστις comes from God after regeneration, but regeneration must be accepted by man, with accepting God’s Love (Charity) in the form of forgiveness.

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When you say, "but regeneration must be accepted by man," are you assuming that a person already regenerated, having the Holy Spirit in him speaking to him, could actually have such a rotten attitude (hate toward God) that he rejects the regeneration given? If God is merciful toward someone enough to reveal Himself, does He not reveal His love as well as His wrath? Does He not also change the disposition of the person's heart so that the person has hope to reconciliation with God that he did not previously have? "We are saved in hope" says Paul in Rom. 8. This is why there is the idea of "irresistible grace," because although grace was resisted at first, when a person is regenerated, their heart is changed toward God, having faith and hope, there is no more resisting it. There is only surrender, resulting in peace and rest from the consternation of being at odds with God. Then peace with God becomes a precious treasure that no pleasure of sin could ever steal.

bling said:

This “Kind of believe” you talk about can be directed toward your creator in the acceptance of charity from your hated enemy (God) and prior to obtaining πίστις.

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The "kind of belief" in the NT, also called "saving faith," is of a kind that only God can give, through spiritual quickening and illumination. After this, the "hated enemy" becomes "precious friend." This is the nature of grace. This kind of belief is the faith described in the NT. There is no such thing as belief in Christ that is different than faith in Christ, it's the same thing. There are different kinds of belief and different kinds of faith, but only one kind is the belief/faith of the child of God.

When you say "can be directed toward your creator," the only true faith is always directed toward God. The implication is that if faith is not directed toward God and Christ, it is not true faith, that is, not the NT kind of faith, and therefore not "saving faith."

bling said:

Everything hinges on the definition of “Spiritually dead” and if the person that is spiritually dead can do something for himself (selfishly). We know the “spiritual dead” person can still physically feed himself, so what else can he do for himself?

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Someone naturally alive but spiritually dead cannot do anything for himself spiritually. This is the point. A person physically alive but spiritually dead is called "natural man" by Paul in 1 Cor. 2. The nature of a spiritually dead person is "by nature a child of wrath," because the law of God requires real altruism, in which there is nothing selfish or self-centered in it. This is why people naturally loathe to obey God's commands, because God's commands "crimp their style" - that is, one must "deny self" - for example, set aside sinful pleasures - in order to obtain something much greater, something unseen, like the saving of another person's soul. But the "natural man" according to 1 Cor. 2 and Rom. 8 will never give up his sinful pleasures, not unless he is regenerated and made into a "spiritual man." How does a "natural man" hear the gospel? Jesus often said, "he who has ears to hear" - God must quicken a person's inner ears to hear it. But a spiritually dead person will always turn away.

bling said:

How do you get around Jesus explaining to us that a person spiritually dead like the prodigal son can turn to the Father?

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What makes you think the son was spiritually dead after he returned home? The story is a parable, so there is not necessarily a point-by-point comparison to the spiritual; it's a case of "the kingdom of heaven is like..."; there are similarities.

So here's the deal: the son was "spiritually dead" (i.e. dead to the father and the family) when he had no hope in the home and his future there. His sights were on the pleasures of the world. But after expending all his resources, he finds himself in the lowest hell he could be while still alive. In that place, he realizes what a waste he has made of his life, and then looks to his home for some hope for his future. At that time that he hopes in his father and his home, his life is "regenerated," so he actually goes home. He is then "spiritually alive" even though not realizing yet how much he is loved by his father.

Jesus said, "blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." It's like the prodigal son who recognizes his spiritual bankruptcy and looks back to his home for hope.

bling said:

(Luke 15: 32) Christ has the Father explain what it meant to be dead and calls the son dead (not meaning dead physically) when the Father now knows he is alive: “…because this brother of yours was dead and has come to life; he was lost and has been found.”

The prodigal son in a dead state (by Jesis’ own words) could turn to his father for selfish reasons, but undeserved salvation was from the father. The young son did not excising some “Godly ability”, but selfishly (sinfully) wanting to humbly accept pure underserved charity.

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The son was not yet mature enough to exercise altruism (selfless helping others). It is true that at first there is a selfish desire to accept undeserved charity. Is this not the same way we begin our relationship with God? There is first hope that God will accept us into His family, and give us eternal life as promised. Then after being equipped for service, we begin helping others.

bling said:

You are right for I am not talking about “believe in Christ”, but “trusting” in God unbelievable illogical Love.

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Yet, people can trust in God loving them without believing in Christ, but therein is a false sense of security. Since we know Jesus said He is the only way to the Father, then through belief in Him is the only way to receive the Father's love. 1 Jn. 5:10 says that whoever does not believe in Jesus is calling God a liar. There is a sort of trust in God in a natural sense that is inadequate to be accepted and reconciled to God. This kind of "trust" (which is not real and spiritual) is the kind the world does, but still hates the only true God, and loathes His commands.

Daniel Carlton said:

The Reformers went back into Christian history and recovered the true doctrines, like justification by faith alone. That had been buried under centuries of Roman heresy.

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Too bad they only went back to the 5th century. Personally I think the 1st & 2nd century theologians had a better idea of what the apostles taught because they were actually disciples of the apostles and disciples of the apostle’s disciples. Don’t get me wrong they had the right idea to get out of the Roman church but they still ended up with a heretical theology.

Lady Bug said:

If I eat sugar after eating proteins, I don't crash. I crash if I eat sugars in isolation.

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That is why sweets are supposed to be for dessert not to be consumed alone


I hate to be a broken record but what you are describing, emphasis on the senses, obsession, feelings of being hated… etc
Sounds like you are being manipulated by forces of which you are unaware. After communion pray the Anima Christi prayer and meditate on the words until you can really imagine inviting Christ into your heart


Soul of Christ, sanctify me.
Body of Christ, save me.
Blood of Christ, inebriate me.
Water from the side of Christ, wash me.
Passion of Christ, strengthen me.
O Good Jesus, hear me.
Within your wounds hide me.
Permit me not to be separated from you.
From the wicked foe, defend me.
At the hour of my death, call me
and bid me come to you
That with your saints I may praise you
For ever and ever. Amen

Apple Sky said:

Yes & mostly helicopters & none of these bases are very far in plus they have coincidental names to them such as 'Dome' & Byrd.

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What? These bases are from different countries and the distances are much further than what a helicopter could fly. In addition, a properly configured plane can carry a much larger payload than helicopters. Also the names mean absolutely nothing but simply the names they chose.

ETA: Forgot to add that Antartica has an area of over 5,400,000 sq. miles which is larger than the US (3,800,000 sq.mi.)

Strong in Him said:

Jesus said "The Son of Man will return ......" , not "the 6th seal event will be ........."

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'return' is not in my Bible, in that Parable.
The Lord will come unexpectedly on His Day of wrath. Which is not and cannot be the same Day as the glorious Return.

Strong in Him said:

You believe what you like. If you believe you will be alive in 15-20 years time, able to move to Israel and take part in animal sacrifices, you hang onto that. But even if you are around, this forum probably won't be so you will never have to give account to us for your erroneous teaching.

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It is possible for me to live for another 36 years. I do expect to be in the Holy Land when Jesus Returns.
EVERYONE must give account for their deeds. I will stand before God; knowing I have done what God asked me to do.

Strong in Him said:

But you may be watching these things from heaven.

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Again; the 'going to live in heaven', fixation.
JESUS SAID: No one goes to heaven - except for the One who came from there.

But thanks for thinking I might just be good enough to go to heaven.

Hentenza said:

Here is a map of all of the permanent research stations that are all over Antartica. Obviously airplanes fly all the way across Antarctica because the bases need to be restocked and scientists moved in and out.

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Yes & mostly helicopters & none of these bases are very far in plus they have coincidental names to them such as 'Dome' & Byrd.

Aristarkos said:

Funny that you take Luke 16:23 as if it is proof. When you start reading Luke, you will see that in chapter 15 the lord Jezus starts to talk in parables.
First the parable in vs 4 about the man who lost his sheep, then the parable in vs 8 about the woman who lost a piece of silver. So it's not one parable, but more parables. In vs 11 about the man who had two sons, in chapter 16 in vs one He says: "And he said also unto his disciples, There was a certain rich man..." so He continues to speak in parables chapter 16.

Sometimes AI can learn us a thing or two:

No, a parable should not be taken literally because its purpose is to illustrate a moral or spiritual lesson through a story, not to be a factual account. A parable uses a fictional, relatable scenario to make a deeper point, and the details of the story are not meant to be taken as literal truths, such as Jesus not literally being a rock or a door, as noted in The Bible Speaks to You.

• Parables are allegorical stories:
  They use symbolic language and characters to convey a message. For example, a parable about a sower scattering seeds is not about farming but about how different people receive different messages.
  
  
• Focus on the message:
  The core of a parable is the principle or spiritual truth it aims to teach, not the plot. The details are just a tool to help the listener understand that message.
  
  
• Literal interpretation misses the point:
  Taking the story literally would mean missing the whole point. For instance, the parable of the talents is not about literal money but about using one's abilities and resources wisely.
  
  
• Context is key:
  Understanding the context in which a parable was told is essential to grasp its intended meaning. The story is a means to an end, and that end is the lesson being communicated.

Aristarkos

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And in 1 Cor. 5;1. WE A SON WHO IS A believer

In vertse. 2 many. in. that ASSEMBLY are PUFFED up with PRIDE. and. there are. that say , WHO are we to judge

In verse 3. being absent JUDGES that son

In verse r. , Paul delivers that son to SATAN for the DEATH. of. the flesh. . in order that the SPIRIT be saved

in. the. DAY off. the LORD JESUS !!

# A God does punish BELIEVERS

# B. Is this PARABLE. ??

# C That son body. is in. the GRAVE

# D. So all believers and those not saved , all go a GRAVE

# E Where does a believers SOPUL and SPIRIT GO AT DEATH. ??

And that is why try to always give the Greek word and the English words and give. the TENSES , MOODS

And there are reasons why Christ spoke in PARABLES , BECAUSE ISRAEL were to be set aside in. ACTS 28:25-28

and in. Isa 6 ; 8-13

dan p