just a few things, for therians many see it as more spiritual more akin to a different type of wicca/shamanism or even reincarnation, that they have the soul of the animal, others realize there might be a psychological part to it. And then like any internet thing there are all the fakers/fadders and so on.

The Barbarian said:

Ah, yes "It's all Biden's fault."

In some people's minds, that's as bad as molesting children.

But not for most of us.

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It’s a crime, and he elevated a criminal to an appointed position in the government.

JulieB67 said:

Yes, those believers that are coming back with him. Those that have passed away, etc. They are waiting for this moment.

But the marriage supper is being prepared "after" the great harlot has been judged. So this would be after the tribulation. The Bride has made herself ready and it's being prepared. But again, it comes after the tribulation. as noted by this verse

Revelation 19:2 "For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great harlot, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand."

Those servants are in heaven as well waiting. And they will return with him.

Paul makes it pretty clear that our gathering back together will not happen until a falling away (apostasy) and the man of sin revealed.

I used to believe in a pretrib rapture as well but it's not biblical. And we are given very strict warnings on this subject by Christ and Paul to not be deceived by any means. It's that important.

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That is why I currently stand at "post trib pre wrath rapture"...

We will go through the tribulation (although I think the antichrist will not have total world domination) but we will be raptured before the judgement. I think that period of judgement will be quite swift and we may actually be on earth with resurected bodies together with Chist as the heavenly army.

mark46 said:

This makes little sense to me. If the consumer was willing to pay more, why weren't companies charging more before?

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Human psychology is often irrational and folks get very, very hung up on their expectations of what things should cost rather than what they actually cost. If consumers are used to volatility (e.g. gasoline), then they accept volatility. If they're used to slow upward growth (e.g. cars), then they expect slow upward growth. And if they're used to stability (e.g. video games), then they expect stability. Within any of these paradigms, prices tend to find an equilibrium where consumers are okay charging an amount that producers are okay accepting. Either side is obviously happy to accept terms more favorable than the equilibrium, but consumers are especially reluctant to pay more; and if one firm tries to disrupt this equilibrium and violate those expectations, consumers can react very, very negatively. I used video games as an example because the nominal (i.e. non-inflation-adjusted) price of a top-shelf video game was stuck at $45-50 for something like 30-35 years, despite the games themselves becoming orders of magnitude more complex and expensive to produce; and when somebody dared pushing it to $60 or $70 (which only happened within the last few years), people got really angry.

But if something external upsets that equilibrium and those pricing expectations - say, a pandemic or a tariff war - well, then consumer expectations get recalibrated; more than one producer will likely ride that wave; and they'll all have something/somebody else to blame.

FAITH-IN-HIM said:

What motive?

You and I agree what south did is wrong. so why celebrate their wrong behavior?

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That what you did right there. You assigned motive.

A New Dawn said:

And I can add lots of outlandish stuff from Biden’s time in office.

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Ah, yes "It's all Biden's fault."

A New Dawn said:

Yeah I couldn’t get my head around Biden appointing a sexual fetish …. person (male) who stole women’s suitcases at the airport then took pictures of himself in all the women’s clothing and posted them on social media.

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In some people's minds, that's as bad as molesting children.

But not for most of us.

Akita Suggagaki said:

Why did man cause it in the first place? Was it an act of free will or did he lack grace to do otherwise?

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He was walking and talking with God in the Garden of Eden. That is the ultimate definition of grace. He (of all people on earth) had the ability to make a free will decision. He had one rule to follow and couldn’t even do that. And once he rebelled and got cast out of the Garden, all of creation fell, and in our separation from God, we lost our ability to make free will decisions. All we can do now is make decisions based on our fallen nature. And because of our fallen nature we cannot seek for God, we cannot understand God, we do not fear God, and no one does good without God. (Romans 3).

Meanwhile, in Los Angeles...

Richmond Confederate statues removed in 2020 head to LA​

[image is how Jeff Davis is currently being displayed in Richmond/]


It's one of several of Richmond's Confederate monuments being shipped to Los Angeles for an exhibit about how these statues — and their recent removal from public spaces — have shaped American history.

[From the exhibit, which opens in October]

Co-organized and co-presented by MOCA and The Brick, MONUMENTS marks the recent wave of monument removals as a historic moment. The exhibition reflects on the histories and legacies of post-Civil War America as they continue to resonate today. It brings together a selection of decommissioned statues, many of which are Confederate, with contemporary artworks borrowed and commissioned for the occasion.

Removed from their original outdoor public context and installed within the galleries of MOCA and The Brick, the decommissioned statues featured in MONUMENTS will be shown in their varying conditions, from unmarred to heavily vandalized.

The decommissioned monuments in the exhibition illustrate the evolution of the Confederate monument from its roots in a funerary impulse to its rise as a crystalline symbol of a white supremacist ideology, whose obstinacy became increasingly conspicuous against calls for civil rights.

ozso said:

Authoritarian leadership seems to get better results

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At the expense of liberty.

-CryptoLutheran

A New Dawn said:

I am not supporting anything. My only concern is the assigning of motive that is not in evidence.

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What motive?

You and I agree what south did is wrong. so why celebrate their wrong behavior?

Valletta said:

The Democrats were wrong, but Abraham Lincoln took a healing path.

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Abe Lincoln did the right thing by granting clemency to Southern soldiers. However, celebrating their treasonous actions with monuments is misguided. Ironically, the party that claims to uphold the rule of law supports these monuments.

AV1611VET said:

Saltationism

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For a long time, saltationism was a challenge to Darwinian theory. Darwin's associate, Huxley suggested that Darwin unnecessarily rejected rapid evoltionary change. Into the 1950s, Goldschmidt, with his "hopeful monster" theory, challenged Darwinism. Ultimately, the evidence tilted things toward gradualism.

Then, Eldridge and Gould, considering Mayr's observation that aberrant species tended to be found in isolated environments, proposed punctuated equilibrium. Small populations in new environments, they wrote, will evolve rapidly (in geologic terms) until they are fitted to the environment, and enter a much longer period of stasis where little evolution occurs.

The theory is generally accepted by scientists. While Darwin did point out that a fitted population would evolve very little, he never accepted the idea of rapid change, citing Leibniz "natura non facit saltus."

Punctuated equilibrium got a boost from the observation of lizards moved to an Adriatic island, which have evolved rapidly with extensive changes, including the evolution of a new digestive organ. In just a few decades, they evolved remarkably quickly.

3 Resurrections said:

This white horse rider in Revelation 6:2 "went forth conquering and to conquer". This is reminiscent of the verse which tells us "We are more than conquerors through Him that loved us..." (Romans 8:37).

Didn't the ascending Christ tell His disciples in Matthew 28:18-19 just before He left, "All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore and teach all nations..." The "conquering" that Christ the white horse rider in Rev. 6:2 was pictured as doing was the evangelistic work being done with Christ's power starting with the early church in Jerusalem, and spreading out from there to the nations.

The single crown given to this Rev. 6:2 white horse rider was the crown of His high priesthood. This high priest crown was given to Christ by the Ancient of Days on the morning of His resurrection-day ascension to heaven. The Son of Man was brought near before the Ancient of Days, and was given dominion, and glory, and a kingdom.

The "many crowns" given to the white horse rider Christ in Revelation 19:12 were going to be confiscated later from a defeated Satan who had once boasted to Christ in the wilderness temptation about his having the power and glory of all the kingdoms of this world (Luke 4:5-6).

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This is a sound elaboration...
And looking at it in that way the bow may point to His conquest of the world is in an indirect manner through the believers, and also cgoing through the air" as indication of the work of the Holy Spirit...

Food for thought

AV1611VET said:

Should I have raised my hand first?

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Or maybe, you don't answer questions that aren't directed at you in any way shape or form. Is that too hard?

3 Resurrections said:

This entire chapter's context is full of a description of the "FIRST resurrection" event, when the many Matthew 27:52-53 saints came out of their graves on the same day that "Christ the First-fruits" arose from the dead. There were 144,000 of those Jewish OT tribal members who were raised from their graves around Jerusalem on that same day, who were also called "The First-fruits unto God and the Lamb" in Revelation 14:4. These 144,000 Jewish tribal members shared the same "First-fruits" title with Christ, because they shared the same resurrection day in AD 33. This was the fulfillment of the ancient Mosaic rite in Leviticus 23:10-12 of the sheaf handful of Passover First-fruits of the barley harvest being waved in the temple (representing the many resurrected Matt. 27:52-53 saints), which was offered along with a single He-Lamb without blemish (representing Christ).

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This is a really interesting take, however I have some doubts...

1. This would mean 144000 (only men who never had intercourse as per verse 4) had risen from their graves on that day, sound to me like really many for that occasion...
2. Did they follow Jesus up into Heaven as per verse 4, there is only mention of Jesus ascending...
3. If they did not ascend into Heaven, then they would be living the rest of their lives with resurected bodies, but how did they then eventually die (because they did)
4. If they rose only with their mortal bodies (lile Lazarus) then they wouldn't be equally resurrected as Jesus was...
5. The "first resurrection" is mentioned as the resurrection right before the millennium starts, do you think we are in the millennium right now?