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  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

DNI Gabbard Slammed for Identifying Undercover CIA Officer in tweet about pulling security clearances of 37 people

Tulsi Gabbard may have undermined investigation into ex-CIA director, officials say

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard had removed security clearances from 37 current and former national security officials.

Some of the people targeted by Gabbard worked in the Obama administration at the same time as Brennan and could possibly be called as witnesses in the government’s probe. But now these potential witnesses have been labeled by the director of national intelligence as unreliable and traitorous, which will complicate efforts by prosecutors to build a case against Brennan, the officials and legal experts said.

“How can they be reliable witnesses now?” said one senior administration official.

“The first question from the defense counsel will be: ‘Didn’t DNI Gabbard say that you were untrustworthy? Why should the jury believe your testimony?’” Carroll said.
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Trump Calls For Ilhan Omar’s Removal From Congress

No less with Trump.

But that's okay I suppose....
Right wing violence is down.

Trumps rhetoric is based on personal attacks by the left. The attacks to destroy him and his family. REAL attacks from democrats to destroy his life and put him in jail. Including two attempts on his life.So I'll cut him a little slack.

When you start decrying the violence and rhetoric from the left I'll take you seriously.

And I can't take you seriously with such a ridiculous conspiratorial question you raised about the bullets.
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A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION

To me the footnotes in the modern versions creates doubt concerning God's Word. They are saying these words shouldn't be in the Traditional Bible. The foot notes in the Traditional translation are saying the words should be there.

There are only 2 Bible manuscript text of copies (there are no extant original manuscripts – Majority Text/Minority Text) which makes it simple to realize which one is correct; they are too different from one another and only one can claim which is the Word of God because He has given us His promise that His Word will be in the correct translation. I say "the translation" because there is only one complete unaltered version of God's Word, which are translations derived from the Majority Text, Ecclesiastical text, Received Text and Byzantine texts (all of these texts are in agreement with one another).

The "omissions" alone in the modern versions disqualifies them because the Lord Jesus said, "Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God" (Mat 4:4). The translation is not perfect, but God's Word in the translation is complete (perfect), if it contains all of the Scriptures.

God allowed almost 500 years to pass with His Word to us, which there were only one set of manuscripts available, until they recently found the corrupted manuscripts that no copier would use, mainly because they were missing excessive passages (the modern translators took their liberty to also change this translation via interpolations and transpositions.) Thus, when the footnote that a passage or words should not be there, they are claiming that the Traditional (Majority Text) version is adding words that are not found in the Minority Text. There was no Minority Text before this discovery (1800’s). Why would God allow, at any time, esp. for half a millennium, His children to be without His Word.

"Does the NKJV use the older manuscripts? No, the New King James Version nor the KJV use the older Greek manuscripts" -Google AI (Minority Text, aka, Alexandrian corrupted Text—NC)

"The KJV and NKJV New Testaments are based on the Textus Receptus, a traditional Greek text that reflects the Byzantine manuscript tradition." -Google AI

The Textus Receptus and the Majority Text make up both the KJV and NKJV! —NC
While I am not an expert in these things by any means, it is pretty clear that in general, you are misrepresenting the evidence we have concerning what was originally written by the NT writers. For one example, you say, "There are only 2 Bible manuscript text of copies".

This is not a true statement. This article is among many that say we have thousands of NT manuscripts written in Koine Greek. Here is an excerpt:

It has been well publicized that there are over 5,000 Greek manuscripts of the NT. The manuscripts we have today were created between AD 125 and AD 1516. Scribes copied by hand the books of the NT. The first copies were made directly from the original manuscripts. Then those copies were copied.​
The number of available copied manuscripts has grown as new copies are discovered every year. It is now commonly reported that there are about 5,800 manuscripts of the NT. In addition, there are 10,000 ancient Latin manuscripts (translations of the early Greek manuscripts) and 9,300 ancient manuscripts in other languages (e.g., Coptic, Syriac, Ethiopic). And the church fathers quoted nearly every verse in the NT in their writings.​
The time between the writing of the original manuscripts of the NT and their earliest copies is between 100 and 200 years. Compare that to other major works of antiquity, whose earliest copies date to over 1,000 years after the books were written.​
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Trump Calls For Ilhan Omar’s Removal From Congress

You need a flow chart? Really? I bet you wouldn't need a flow chart if Republican representatives attacked some government agencies with the same accusations and we started having right wing people shooting and attacking those agencies.
She said [things] and some rando nutjob did [things], isn’t evidence.
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Make Argentina Great Again: US ready to support Argentina with 'large and forceful' action, Treasury chief says

K.

No. Why do you think Milei should get an off-ramp for his failure to address his country’s economic problems? Why should American taxpayers be on the hook for it when it?
Milei faced a total disaster. He has done a lot. There is so much more to do.
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‘TERMINATED!’ Trump Calls to End FEMA and Let States Manage Disasters for ‘BIG SAVINGS’

Somebody found a way to get Noem to approve things.

Kristi Noem Fast-Tracked Millions in Disaster Aid to Florida Tourist Attraction After Campaign Donor Intervened

“I can’t get phone calls back,” Ted Budd, the Republican senator from North Carolina, told a newspaper this month, describing his attempts to reach Noem’s office. “I can’t get them to initiate the money. It’s just a quagmire.” The delays were caused in part by a new policy announced by DHS that requires Noem’s personal sign-off on expenses over $100,000, several news outlets reported.

But records obtained by ProPublica show how one locality found a way to get FEMA aid more quickly: It asked one of Noem’s political donors for help.

For the first seven months of the Trump administration, the pier reconstruction was in bureaucratic purgatory. The city had long been struggling to secure the regulatory approvals it needed to start building, and emails suggest Trump’s wave of federal layoffs had made the process even slower.

[The town fathers enlisted the aid of a doctor who is among Noem's top donors.]

The records show that Noem quickly expedited more than $11 million of federal money to rebuild a historic pier in Naples, Florida, after she was contacted by a major financial supporter last month. The pier is a tourist attraction in the wealthy Gulf Coast enclave and was badly damaged by Hurricane Ian in 2022.

“We are now at warp speed with FEMA,” one city official wrote in an email. A FEMA representative wrote: “Per leadership instruction, pushing project immediately.”

Once a sleepy fishing town, Naples is now home to CEOs and billionaires (a property listed for $295 million recently made headlines as the most expensive home in the U.S.). The city is known as an important stop for Republican politicians raising money, and Noem has held multiple fundraisers in the area. State credit card records suggest she visited Naples at least 10 times during her last four years as South Dakota governor.

Noem’s top ['worst kept secret in Washington'] adviser, Corey Lewandowski, also appears to own a home in Naples near the city’s pier, according to property tax records.
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Mid Acts Dispensationalist Only WE GRACE BELIEVERS HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED. ??

To those who are considered God's. Whether it is Jews who believe and follow Jesus, or Gentiles who are grafted in. Since there is neither Jew nor Gentile and we are all one in Christ, that means all who are his is subject to the inheritance.
And in. Gal 3:28 says , There CANNOT //. OV. , means that there cannot be. be JEWS nor Greeks , there CANNOT be// OV

slave. nor free , there CANNOT //. OV. ever be male and female. for you ARE // ESTE , which is in the Greek , PRESENT TENSE

IN CHRIST JESUS ,

And in 1. Cor. 12: 13 we are all. PLACED into ONE BODY.

verse 15 we are Christ foot

verse 16 , we are His EARS

verse 17 we are Christ eyes , his sense of Hearing , his sense of Smell

I can. say we are Christ here on earth

and we are not the BRIDE of Christ , EITHER nor are we GRAFTED in either !!
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Am glad of your reply and I am a DISPENSATIONALIST. , PRE- TRI and PER-MIL. so you know where I am

coming from. !!

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Resources for the disabled

Are there resources for those who are disabled? I feel like I am stagnating, and it is only exacerbated by my functional illiteracy, low IQ (70-90), dyslexia, memory loss since age 17, mental health volatility, etc. The nearest church is about an hour away, and for several reasons, I can't drive long distances. So where can I find resources that are easy to understand and remember or to help ,e with Scripture reading?
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Hell doesn't exist and there is no eternal suffering, instead bad peolle just cease to exist

Why should anyone proclaim the good news so that people come to Christ if all will be saved anyway?
Yeah, I mean who hear actual good news? Tell 'em they're filthy creatures who God can't wait to cast into an eternal fire because they sicken Him, but Jesus can save them from Him. That'll certainly make them want to worship Him.
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Trump Calls For Ilhan Omar’s Removal From Congress

Pretty much all doesn't mean all. It means most. And in the case of leftist violence its way more. Even the lame stream media recognizes it.

And the major problem with this is more often than not, statistics aew only bases on death counts rather than just on acts of violence that include the destruction of property and injuries to people.

Often the attacks are not listed as leftist attacks, when they clearly are. I dont remember, but were the to trans shooting incidents listed as leftist attacks? Where they included in the stats? We even have people here claiming rhe Mangioni attack wasn't a leftist attack.

Its time for the left to take responsibility and say enough is enough.
Buy the way the shooter told us that he shot Hortman because Tim Walz told him to. We all know Walz didn't tell him to or tell him to kill those democrats on the list, but based upon that, its no different than some other nut job saying Jesus told them to kill. It speaks far more to the guys mental health than his ideology. Hearing voices is a serious mental illness.
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Left-Wing Terrorism Is on the Rise

Thos is what I'm talking about. We ALL see it. We ALL know it, and we all see how its not being counted. Its a scam.
Has it dawned on you that if you ‘know’ something is true but what you think is true isn’t actually showing up it might be because what you think you know is incorrect?

The evidence from actual research suggests that the position you hold is incorrect.

“Our primary predictor was a mutually exclusive categorical variable and included individuals who were identified as committed to Islamist, right-wing, or left-wing causes. Examples of groups supporting Islamist ideology included al-Qaeda and Hezbollah; examples of groups supporting right-wing ideology included the Ku Klux Klan and the National Alliance; and examples of groups supporting left-wing ideology included the Animal Liberation Front and the Weather Underground. Right-wing supporters represented 59%, left-wing 23%, and Islamist 18% of the sample. We created two dummy-coded variables with far-right ideology as the reference category.”

“First, data on extremists in the United States showed that left-wing radicals were less likely to use violence than right-wing and Islamist radicals. Second, using worldwide data we found that in comparison to right-wing and Islamist groups, attacks motivated by left-wing groups were less deadly. These substantive conclusions were not affected by the inclusion of a set of control variables. Thus, the main findings appear to be robust across levels of analysis (i.e., individuals, groups) and geographical scope of the data.

Our results are in line with past research showing that conservative ideology—represented in our datasets by both right-wing and Islamist causes—is positively related to violent political behavior. These results support the view that left-wing and right-wing extremists are not equivalent when it comes to the use of violence (48; see also [49] for related findings on the victims of hate crimes in the United States). Whereas our findings are not inconsistent with the idea that individuals espousing different ideologies may feel equally negative toward worldview-threatening others (50), they suggest that the social consequences of extreme right-wing hostility may be more harmful than those caused by the far left (see [50] for a similar point).

At the same time, available data leave us agnostic as to the exact causal process between these variables. It could be that characteristics of individuals who are drawn to right-wing causes predispose them to greater aggressiveness. Such a hypothesis would be in line with past research on the psychological makeup of conservatives versus liberals (5). It is also possible that it is rather the characteristics of the cause that drive the use of violence. For example, it could be that right-wing causes are associated with stronger moral convictions or a greater sense of threat among their followers, which makes their adherents willing to use more extreme measures to attain their cause. Finally, the content of the political cause (e.g., hierarchy-enhancing vs. hierarchy-attenuating) may interact with individual characteristics (e.g., value of equality vs. dominance) and result in varying levels of violence. Future research could investigate the exact mechanisms behind the relationships identified in our data.”

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The Ultimate "Choo-Choo"

The kids were on the bike-trail bridge cheering the "Choo Choo" along. This train is hauling coal out of West Virginia. It has ridden the New River up into Virginia where it will cross a continental divide and then ride down the mountain into Roanoke.

1. The engines really struggle making it over the mountain
2. You can see the engines putting sand on the track for traction
3. The New River flows north ends up in the Gulf of Mexico
4. The Roanoke River flows east and ends up in the Atlantic Ocean
5. The engines also struggle keeping the train slow going down the mountain
6. The whole rail between the New River and Roanoke River is quite the engineering feat!
7. Very scenic on what we call the "Huckleberry Trail" between Christiansburg and Blacksburg

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What Going on with the Charlie Kirk Assassination Investigation?

I don't know, it sounds fishy to me. I mean look at the cause of death itself. Where is the doctor's report matching up with the scenario that it was rifle shot from the building top. If you look at the Redacted video, they show the moment of impact. It was very odd.

I don't know where I am going with this but I expected more information to be available that made better sense. I mean this sounds like the JFK assassination all over. Lee Harvey Oswald was, at first, the lone gunman but he is killed a few days later by Jack Ruby who ends up dying of cancer four years later. Mar 2025 comes around and supposedly all documents on the JFK assassination are revealed to the public. It was a little bit more involved than the lone gunman theory.

Are citizens just pawns in this governmental world that takes place behind the scenes? My main reason to have faith in God. It seems that everybody is lying about alot of stuff.
That information is out there, just not to the public yet. But you can be sure, if it exists it will be in the prosecuters hands right now qued up for the trial.

Not everything is a consperacy, and we are not going to know everything right away. It is better to wait and see what happens at the trial.

Humans do reconice padderns, but not all padderns are really there.
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Karoline Leavitt rebukes Democrats for not condemning Charlie Kirk's murder: 'Truly a sad moment'

Since they had already formerly condemn Charlie Kirk's murder there was no need to do it again.


They were explaining why they refused to honor his legacy which included claiming Biden should be executed and speaking down the Civil Rights Act and demeaning Martin Luther King.

He didn't deserve to die but he didn't deserve to be honored, either.

That was the Republican's fault. Democrats wouldn't have said anything if Republicans hadn't pushed them to respond.
None of this has anything to do with what you claimed. She was talking about Democrats who voted against or abstained from voting on the resolution.
All the stuff you posted about Democrats condemning the murder had nothing to do with what she was talking about.
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Make Argentina Great Again: US ready to support Argentina with 'large and forceful' action, Treasury chief says

just be glad for the help.
K.
BTW, do you think that Harris would be helping? Me neither.
No. Why do you think Milei should get an off-ramp for his failure to address his country’s economic problems? Why should American taxpayers be on the hook for it when it?
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47: Russia, Russia, Russia

Anything? It's been the statutory two weeks since then.
Ok, he asked Viktor Orban very nicely to stop buying oil from Russia, and Orban said no.

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán said Friday that Hungary will continue to source fossil fuels from Russia despite demands from his ally U.S. President Donald Trump, and that he’d informed the president that dropping Russian energy would be a “disaster” for Hungary’s economy.
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