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Once Saved Always Saved (OSAS) or Keep the faith until the end?

Yes, man has limited free will. And even Adam's freedom was limited, for that matter, compared with God's. But fallen man's will is not so constrained that he cannot muster a "no" to grace, to God, when He calls.
"Grace" is not an outward entity "offered" to a person.

Grace is the power of God working within fallen man, giving him the disposition to prefer God's will, which he freely and willingly chooses.
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Karoline Leavitt rebukes Democrats for not condemning Charlie Kirk's murder: 'Truly a sad moment'

None of this has anything to do with what you claimed.
Sure it does. Republicans are being petty trying to use this to make Democrats look petty.
She was talking about Democrats who voted against or abstained from voting on the resolution.
That's right and I've said that already BUT Democrats have no need voting on a resolution which both honors Charlie Kirk and condemns violence because they've already condemned violence after Kirk's murder. If Republicans would have left the honor Kirk off of the resolution, Democrats would have voted for it

All the stuff you posted about Democrats condemning the murder had nothing to do with what she was talking about.
Yes it did since she was condemning Democrats for not voting for the resolution to condemn violence. She knew that she was lying.
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Mid Acts Dispensationalist Only WE GRACE BELIEVERS HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED. ??

And in. Gal 3:28 says , There CANNOT //. OV. , means that there cannot be. be JEWS nor Greeks , there CANNOT be// OV

slave. nor free , there CANNOT //. OV. ever be male and female. for you ARE // ESTE , which is in the Greek , PRESENT TENSE

IN CHRIST JESUS ,

And in 1. Cor. 12: 13 we are all. PLACED into ONE BODY.

verse 15 we are Christ foot

verse 16 , we are His EARS

verse 17 we are Christ eyes , his sense of Hearing , his sense of Smell

I can. say we are Christ here on earth

and we are not the BRIDE of Christ , EITHER nor are we GRAFTED in either !!
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Am glad of your reply !!

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But the word is Ouk/OU (G3756) so to say it's translated as "cannot" is incorrect.
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The main definition is "no" or "not". While "cannot" is used as a translation, the reason it isn't with this verse is due to grammar.

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Notice "cannot" has its own separate greek reference of "G1410".
So the reference of "cannot" (ever) placed inside this verse changes the point Paul was trying to make. To say cannot/ever, is essentially striping the identity within the body. Paul was trying to make a point, but not make it into a finite point of completely striping our singular identity in a complete, literal way.

But, the original tree that Paul referenced the Gentiles being grafted into, started with the Jews. So we can't say that we both were placed into one body which goes against Pauls point of the tree and being grafted in. So its the idea that the promise of inheritance was started out to be Israel when God made a promise to Abraham, but since we Gentiles are grafted into the family/body, we then are able to accept that inheritance. I know I'm being a stickler for word choices, but I think it's important because falsely using wrong wording can strip the point the biblical writer intended to make.
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Not my circus. Not my clown.

That is ridiculous. How much further to the left can democrats go?
Democrats could push harder for Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Obamacare, environmental programs, USAID, food stamps, progressive tax policies, unions, and other vital causes. All these are Democratic programs that are being challenged. Democrats could do more to resist the Trump administration. These are the criticisms I hear of Democrats. I rarely hear that they should lean more towards the Trump program.

You cannot equate the criticisms of Democrats for being too centrist with criticisms of the right for going too far toward Trump. Democratic voters often reject the party's move to the center. Republican voters often reject the party's shift to the extreme right. Both are pushing to the left.
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Once Saved Always Saved (OSAS) or Keep the faith until the end?

It is since the fall, when man became a slave to sin (Jn 8:34).

"Free will" of man (power to make all moral choices) is not presented in the Bible.
Man cannot choose to be sinless.
Man's freedom is limited, he has limited "free will;" i.e., the power to choose what he prefers. . .which, apart from the sovereign Spirit's rebirth,
is not the kingdom of God which he cannot even see (Jn 3:3-5).
Yes, man has limited free will. And even Adam's freedom was limited, for that matter, compared with God's. But fallen man's will is not so constrained that he cannot muster a "no" to grace, to God, when He calls.
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Long Waits, Waves of Calls, Web Crashes: Social Security is Breaking Down [ETA: call wait times no longer reported publicly]

'Never seen it so bad': DOGE cuts have Social Security workers needing to be 'medicated'

According to a new report from the New York Times, the damage done to the Social Security Administration is extensive and deep, with offices woefully understaffed, calls going unanswered and remaining employees barely hanging on.

According to one employee working out of an understaffed office in the Midwest, “In my 24 years, I have never seen it so bad, to the point that a lot of us are medicated.”

The report added that people needing Social Security cards are facing waits of up to six weeks just for an appointment, and those who have questions about their payments are being left on hold.
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Trump Calls For Ilhan Omar’s Removal From Congress

It sure seems rhat its evidence for you you guys when you think a right winger does something. Why is it so different for leftists?

Here's a montage of SOME of the rhetoric.

You can skip to 1:12 to see it.

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Your video didn’t make your point.
All I saw were some politicians bemoaning the fact that ICE agents were “disappearing“ people off the streets, while hiding their own (the ICE agent’s) indentities.
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Federal Election Commission down to 2 Commissioners; 4 needed for Quorum; FEC can’t enforce campaign finance laws, formalize investigations

Federal Election Commission Loses Another Commissioner

Republican Trey Trainor confirmed he’s resigning, leaving the nation’s hobbled campaign finance enforcement agency even further from a quorum.

The six-member FEC lost a quorum of commissioners back in April, effectively shuttering the agency responsible for interpreting and enforcing campaign finance laws, save for its most basic functions, such as publishing political committees’ campaign finance disclosures.

Trainor, the vice chair, leaves on Oct. 3, as first reported by the Washington Examiner. When he leaves, there will only be two members left on the commission, Democrats Dara Lindenbaum and Shana Broussard.

President Donald Trump has failed to nominate candidates to replace the two Republicans who resigned from the commission since January and the one Democrat — Chairwoman Ellen Weintraub — whom Trump ousted in February over her objection.

By law, a quorum of at least four FEC commissioners must be present for the agency to attend to its high-level duties. At present, the FEC can’t enforce campaign finance laws, formalize investigations, provide official legal guidance, defend itself in lawsuits or even conduct public meetings.

“There are no personnel announcements at this time, and any new nominee will be announced by President Trump,” White House spokesperson Harrison Fields told NOTUSin July.

What do You Mean by Believe?

In the NT, the Sons of God are only those reborn by the Holy Spirit and in Christ.
The NT follows the OT, not replaces it. The sons of God are real entities (elohim) and the prime opponents in God's warfare with adversity. We are simply servants of one or the other.
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Once Saved Always Saved (OSAS) or Keep the faith until the end?

It appears you're saying that free will is a fallacy to begin with
It is since the fall, when man became a slave to sin (Jn 8:34).

"Free will" of man (power to make all moral choices) is not presented in the Bible.
Man cannot choose to be sinless.
Man's freedom is limited, he has limited "free will;" i.e., he has the power to choose what he prefers. . .which preference is not the kingdom of God which he cannot even see (Jn 3:3-5).
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‘TERMINATED!’ Trump Calls to End FEMA and Let States Manage Disasters for ‘BIG SAVINGS’

Survivors of Texas floods are grappling with trauma – and still waiting on financial help

One month after the Texas floods, some survivors are sounding the alarm, pleading for help they say still hasn’t arrived. Others are emerging from the nightmare with the support of a community rallying to clean up the devastation on their own.

It’s a long and uncertain road, burdened by complex insurance claims, government red tape, and financial strain.

[Government red tape? Didn't we fire a bunch of people to make all the red tape go away?]

For many survivors who lost their homes, it remains unclear how much support they’ll receive from the Federal Emergency Management Agency and other government programs. Even if help comes, it won’t be quick.

[But that was only under the old "SLOW AND TOTALLY INEFFECTIVE" FEMA. The new vigorous MAGA FEMA must be faster and better.]

[Anyway, surely the state is stepping up. That was Trump's original idea for GREAT SAVINGS!]

Flood survivor Bud Bolton, a resident of Hunt, Texas, says the aid has been painfully slow, and in some cases, nonexistent.

“The state and county are helping us none,” Bolton told CNN.

"We don’t need toilet paper, bottled water, and few necessities and gift cards. We need financial help and are not getting it.”
Texas has a family owned private business which helps with disaster relief faster, more efficiently and more comprehensively than FEMA, and does it out of its own pocket, no cost to the taxpayer.

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Trump suggests he’ll release Jeffrey Epstein ‘client list’ if elected: ‘I’d have no problem with it’

Feds Remove Statue of Trump and Epstein From National Mall

The Park Police say the installation was out of compliance with a permit that originally allowed it to stay up till September 28.​

The National Park Service hasn’t yet replied to Washingtonian‘s request for comment, nor has the White House. This story will be updated.

That happened so fast, they didn't have time to offer a reason for the non-compliance.

This appears to be a blatant First Amendment violation.

Trump-Epstein statue retrieved but not back on the National Mall


The creators of the project, who are part of the group "Secret Handshake," say it was removed on Wednesday morning by US Park Police and the National Park Service.

With a new permit issued, they were hoping to get it back on the National Mall.
One of the organizers spoke to WUSA9 on the condition of anonymity.
"We were told this permit was approved many times, but had not received it in person yet," he explained, "all of a sudden, everything changed. We were informed that the Deputy Director of the National Park Service had stepped in and overridden our approved permit to revoke it once again."
"No explanation was given as to why," he continued, "we were also told the Deputy Director said to never issue us a permit ever again."

[Media also asked for a reason.] We are still waiting for a response.
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What do You Mean by Believe?

John 3: 18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God

You will notice the word begotten, meaning formed through procreation. There are innumerable sons of God created by God,
In the NT, the Sons of God are only those reborn by the Holy Spirit and in Christ.
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The Trump DOJ goes "woke" and will target free speech.

Stephen Miller Claims Simply Calling Trump Authoritarian ‘Incites Violence and Terrorism’​

“Trying to criminalize the act of calling a government ‘authoritarian,’” one journalist said, “is exactly what an authoritarian government would do.”


Miller’s comments came in response to a clip of California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D), who appeared Tuesday on “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert” on CBS.

“I mean, if some guy jumped out of an unmarked car in a van and tried to grab me, by definition, you’re going to push back,” Newsom continued. “These are not just authoritarian tendencies; these are authoritarian actions by an authoritarian government.”

“This should put chills up spines, “ Newsom said. “[Miller] called the Democratic Party an ‘extremist organization,’ basically a terrorist organization, saying he’s going after his enemies.”

Newsom also referred to a post made by Trump on Truth Social telling Attorney General Pam Bondi to target certain political enemies for prosecution.

Miller responded to the clip of Newsom, saying: “This language incites violence and terrorism.”
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Trump Calls For Ilhan Omar’s Removal From Congress

She said [things] and some rando nutjob did [things], isn’t evidence.
It sure seems rhat its evidence for you you guys when you think a right winger does something. Why is it so different for leftists?

Here's a montage of SOME of the rhetoric.

You can skip to 1:12 to see it.

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Am I doing the will of God by helping clean up the ocean?

Picking up litter can be a good example to others. However, the main effort of the Christian life should be becoming a better person by walking after the Spirit rather continuing in the flesh.

Ironically, walking or living in the Spirit is quite involved in physical matters. It's nothing more than living in the truth.

"Corruption" in the Bible can mean many things and this can include pollution.

There's a strong correlation between national corruption, crime index, and danger index of a nation and religion. Ironically, the most Christian nations are also the most corrupt and most dangerous right alongside Afghanistan.

If you're thinking that extreme danger makes people closer to God you might have to rethink that relationship when the leaders of these nations are also Christians, even worse, organized crime bosses and its members are also Christians who regularly attend church and even donate to charity!!

And the scariest part of all these is that people by instinct will not follow religions that don't agree with their personal convictions. They'll abandon religions that does (John 6:66).

I'm not saying that Christianity is the wrong religion otherwise I won't be quoting from the Bible anymore. But consider the prophecies that the movement that Christ started will be corrupted. Read the whole chapter of Jude 1. And judging by the results, it would seem the majority of Christianity is corrupt already. I'm not making these up. I'm still using the same logic used in the Bible and stating facts by the numbers and most importantly, it was prophesied.

On the flip side, the least religious nations (excluding communist nations) are also the least corrupt, safest, cleanest/least polluted, lowest poverty rate, highest per capita income on average, highest quality of life, lowest in human rights abuses. If there is a problem like poverty, they fix it and not just for the show and not just with chump change, unlike what the Pharisees and hypocrites do. Everyone is quite involved. Matthew 25:31-46 comes to mind. They didn't know they were serving and loving the Lord and could very well be a prophecy of the last days.

It's really disturbing when in highly Christian nations, greed is rewarded while in least religious, non communist nations, selflessness is rewarded. Something huge is definitely going on. The Lord is definitely moving something but escapes the attention of those who are supposed to "believe" in Him.

If walking in the Truth and Spirit, everything will fall into place and there will be transformation and evil people will try to take it by force.
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