MrMoe said:

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What exactly is the problem here? This is a perfect example of cultural assimilation. Isn’t this behaviour part of the citizen test?

What about

Beyond Good and Evil - Friedrich Nietzsche

Utilitarianism - John Stuart Mill

An Enquiry Concerning The Principles Of Morals - David Hume

Aldebaran said:

only for that to weaken my employer to the point where he can no longer afford to keep the union around, let alone me.

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Why do you have a responsibility to support your boss? If he can’t run a business without being able to pay a fair wage he should go out of business and someone else should step up. Otherwise you are creating dependency on the workers and stifling innovation.

Aldebaran said:

If a person is ruggedly individualistic, why would he be afraid of anyone?

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He may not be afraid but he lacks the power to leverage his economic freedom in an environment that specifically benefits those with more economic power.

Strutting around in undeserved hubris, vilifying the worse off while scrambling for the leftovers of the high a mighty while convincing oneself that one day, ONE DAY! you too will be a billionaire serves only one side of the monied divide.

It is only by overcoming this bizarre individualism Americans have been fed for decades and being a community rather than a collective of individuals at each others throats that America will prosper.

As it stands now there are a few at the top and many many working paycheque to paycheque. Is that what you want?

Aaron112 said:

"the two terms are sometimes seen as interchangeable in the New Testament, as Jesus uses them synonymously in passages like Matthew 19–24, where "kingdom of heaven" and "kingdom of God" are used in close succession without distinction."

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There is distinction, see it as two circles of different size. The smaller circle (kingdom of heaven) lies within the larger circle (kingdom of God). It is the difference between child of God and Son of God. See the two different promises made to Abraham in Gen. 22:17.

Aristarkos

NBB said:

so sad now you can't trust anything you see or hear.

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Perhaps someone knows where Jesus said basically do not trust what you can see with your (physical) eyes, and do not trust what you can hear with your (physical) ears.
i.e. perhaps it is so sad that that is what deceives everyone - they do not recognize what is important vs what is not.

NBB said:

I've already seen, "billy graham" videos with words i don't think he ever preached.
I guess to see preachings on youtube or something you need to go to official channels, or old stuff.
Is so sad now you can't trust anything you see or hear.

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He was on live tv sometimes, and 'buried himself' with his own words spoken on live tv.
Be shocked.
Be surprised.
But do not trust those things that are very popular. The deception is world wide and very common.

I've already seen, "billy graham" videos with words i don't think he ever preached.
I guess to see preachings on youtube or something you need to go to official channels, or old stuff.
Is so sad now you can't trust anything you see or hear.

This is what we are seeing at the moment. The walking back of progressive radical ideology. But this is really another manifestation of the same thing. The ideology is very adaptable and will change with the circumstances to survive.

We seen this with how some progressive politicians changed to suit whatever audience they were addressing. One moment a Southern Baptist and the next a radical BLM activist and supporting radical trans or Islamist.

Good on Emma if she is genuine and we should welcome such change and move on. But I think it takes more than some social media status. Lets hope this is the beginning of some sanity and unity.

Aaron112 said:

I don't usually look at the dates of posts - no matter the date, the truth remains the truth. (there may be exceptions, but that's a different matter)
We are not alone, as you say, but few in number; several or many have been silenced in our lifetimes; and many won't visit a forum anywhere because of the ungodly contention and lack of support for the truth, or few seeking truth.

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Yes, I agree that many sadly fall into worldly ideas about God, Jesus Christ, salvation, etc. rather than suffer hardship or ridicule for the sake of Christ. Such thoughts make me so grateful to God for the opportunity He has granted me to write a weekly bible message of about 300 words for our local (secular) newspaper.

David Lamb said:

I seek to follow Jesus, and I trust you do too. We are surely not alone in doing so. Incidentally, I was slightly surprised to see your response, as I wrote that post last December. Thanks anyway.

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I don't usually look at the dates of posts - no matter the date, the truth remains the truth. (there may be exceptions, but that's a different matter)
We are not alone, as you say, but few in number; several or many have been silenced in our lifetimes; and many won't visit a forum anywhere because of the ungodly contention and lack of support for the truth, or few seeking truth.

All I know is I don't trust Hamas or any of the Palestinian organisations or representative with connections to radical Islam. No matter what they say it is not because they have suddenly come to their senses and have found some humanity and support for democratic government.

In this political climate and culture wars I don't trust anyone. Any peace deal being promoted is one of this world and the principalities and dark forces pulling the strings. Its a peace agreement that is held together with threats of war and hidden agendas.

At the end of the day Hamas and other radicals only understand one thing hate and terror. They are capitulating because they know the end is near for them in Gaza. If they don't surrender they will be eradicated from Gaza.

Any deal must have the return of hostages but also a complete surrender and the installation of a democratic government. But this under the guide and rule of a international body. Until it is deemed they will not be overtaken again by radicals.

This will be hard as we have seen that even in western domestic politics and homegrown radicals including politicians are trying to undermine democracy and freedoms with ideology. They may try to undermine the process.

So not only does a democratic government need to be installed. But a model one needs to be upheld and not bring the same culture wars that are happening in western nations that will undermine this transition.

Perhaps this can be a time when the world comes together to re-establish the truth principles we built our nations on in helping the Gazans establish themselves.

Aaron112 said:

Where are those who are telling the truth from God allowed to do so without being silenced ? Like Jesus also said - if someone comes in his own name (telling falsehoods), they are gladly accepted ! But who dares listen for Jesus Himself ; who dares follow Jesus today ?

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I seek to follow Jesus, and I trust you do too. We are surely not alone in doing so. Incidentally, I was slightly surprised to see your response, as I wrote that post last December. Thanks anyway.

David Lamb said:

That's rather too general a condemnation. Yes, I am sure there are plenty of people who claim to expound biblical prophecy who are corrupt, but thankfully there are some genuine biblical expositors, expounding the bible (including its prophecies) today.

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Where are those who are telling the truth from God allowed to do so without being silenced ? Like Jesus also said - if someone comes in his own name (telling falsehoods), they are gladly accepted ! But who dares listen for Jesus Himself ; who dares follow Jesus today ?

Dan Perez said:

It does seem to me The iSRAEL AND jUDAH are yet BORN. AGAIN. until the BODY of Christ has been caught up to be

withChrist in 1 Thess 4:13-17. and 2. Thess 2:1-8. !! and this why I AM , DISPENSATIONAL and PRE-TRI. and PRE-MIL. !!

dan p

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Mixing up the groups in Scripture is what stops our spiritual growth. As I explained before, you cannot project to a group that wasn't even known. The Thessalonian letters are written for the church of God, those are the sons of God consisting of Jews and gentiles. They will inherit the heavens and the earth as promised to Abraham. God promised the land (as sand on the shores of the sea) and the world (as the stars of heaven) Gen. 22:17.

THE body of Christ is nowhere mentioned in Scripture before Ephesians. "The" body of Thessalonians, Romans and Corinthians has apostles as a head, THE body of Christ has only Christ as a head. In the Greek the word "the" is only used in Ephesians in connection to body of Christ.

The fact this is not seen is the reason the everything-is-the-same theology was invented.

The Body of Corinthians is not called the Body of Christ, but: Body of Christ. This term only occurs in 1 Cor. 12:27: You are Body of Christ (Greek). As it is said, that the woman is body of the man, because both are a unity, but she is not yet the body of the man, that group is called: Body of Christ, not: the Body of Christ. This term: the Body of Christ we find in Eph. 4:12 we find the Body in Eph. 4:16, 5:23, His Body in Eph. 1:23; 5:30, one Body in Eph. 2:16, 4:4; fellow-body (sussomos) in Ef. 3:6, the whole Body in Eph. 4:16, together 9 times.

The Body of Corinthians is a group for the heavens, it gets to dwell in the house of the Father, is like the stars of heaven, Gen. 15:5, is blessed by Christ with the faithful Abraham, Gal. 3:9, is Abraham's spiritual seed, Gal. 3:29, belongs to the Jerusalem that is Above, Gal. 4:26, it goes to meet the Lord in the air, 1 Thess. 4:13 — 17, becomes the heir of the world, 1 Cor. 6:2, Rom. 4:13. For this group are written the Letters to the Thess., Cor., Gal., Rom. and Hebrews.

The Body of Ephesians has its position in the over-heavenly, source text of Eph. 1:3, 20; 2:6; 3:10; 6:12, over above all things, source text Eph. 1:21. It has a calling for Above, source text Php. 3:14. For this chosen group is, Eph., Col., Php., Philemon, and 2 Tim. written. (As input and preparation for it, Titus and 1 Tim.).

In the Body of Corinthians are signs and gifts. 9 are mentioned, which are canceled, not because of no longer being necessary or of forfeiting them, but because God did the perfect come. It, had blessings for the earth. In the Body of Ephesians are no gifts. They are completely absent as a body. It only receives spiritual blessings, in Christ, in the over-heavenly, Eph. 1:3.

In the Body of Corinthians there is guidance by Spiritual gifts, by revelations, prophecies, etc. 1 Cor. 12, Gal. 2, in the Body of Ephesians there is Spiritual Guidance, being filled with the word of Christ, Col. 3:16, a speaking of the mystery of Christ, Col. 4:3. The rightly dividing of the Word and the contact through the Spirit with God are the highest gifts for this group. The Body of Corinthians belongs to the sphere in which two dispensations run parallel, namely the Pentecostal dispensation for Israel and the dispensation of justification for all who see in Christ the end of the law and the Seed of Abraham; see, 2 Cor. 3, Rom. 10:4, Gal. 3:16. It finds its good tidings in the gospel of God.

The Body of Ephesians belongs to the dispensation of the mystery. It finds its ministry in the gospel of the grace of God, Eph. 3:2 introduced by the gospel of the glory of Christ, 2 Cor. 4:4.

The Body of Corinthians is the elaboration of the counsel of God, Acts 20:27. This includes the world of mankind. The Body of Ephesians is elaboration of the purpose of the aions (KJV = eternal purpose, Eph. 3:11). This purpose spans all the aions.

The Body of Corinthians waits for the day of the Lord, for the revelation of Christ, 1 Cor. 1:7, 1 Thess. 4:13 — 17, 2 Thess. 2. It can only arise again when Israel comes to expect the return of the Lord in its land, so the hope of Israel becomes alive again, for the taking up to meet the Lord is part of the Lord's return.

The Body of Ephesians expect to fellow-sit in the over-heavenly, Eph. 2:6. This is done in the day of Christ, Phil. 1:6, 10, 2:16. For the prize winners has the hope, the being with Christ, already been realized by the (Greek) out-resurrection, Phil. 3:11 (KJV: resurrection). That is becoming disbanded (released from the grave) and being with Christ.

I posted 2500 posts on bibleforums.org mostly about this subject and you were there at that time.

Aristarkos

keras said:

Someone needs to post Biblical truths:

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Where will the truth be accepted ?

Semper-Fi said:

Everyone needs to show true repentance, and be baptized, or they will not receive Gods Gift.

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Did the gentiles in Acts show true(or any) repentance before they were blessed by God with Ruach-hakadesh ?
and were the immersed first, or after they received the gift from God (as I think one of the messengers of God noted).?

Isaac the Recluse said:

I think this is about the youtube channel called "bible illuminated"?

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Thanks. That makes it a bit clearer. A little punctuation might have helped in the OP.

Semper-Fi said:

Have you not Circumcised your heart yet?

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ooops. Are you referring to the circumcision of the heart that only God does ? "not made with human hands" and so forth. And "born again" , not by the will of man, nor of blood, nor of the flesh, but by God Himself (His Doing, His Choice, His Determination to do)

rjs330 said:

Im not so sure. Why would the costs go.down? What would happen in the medical community in order to drive cost down? Would anything suffer if it happened?

I feel there would need to be some major changes in the medical system to make costs drop.

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... Seriously? In every single instant where some type of government healthcare system like what was talked about was implemented, it has lower costs and better overall health for the population, but you just aren't sure? Really?

GoldenKingGaze said:

Paul calls them apostles, not that the apostles that knew Jesus personally, the remaining 11, all came together to talk about the many thousands of Christians at that moment. They had an ancient postal service between them in Rome and Russia and Greece, Jerusalem, India and Egypt... it could not work that they took "note".

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Paul doesn't say that Andronicus and Junia are apostles; he says that among the apostles, they were of note, in ither words, the apostles counted them as noteworthy. As John Gill wrote in his commentary on the verse concerned: "they were well known by, and in great account with the twelve apostles, though not of their number." Barnes gives a more lengthy comment: "This does not mean that they were apostles, as has been sometimes supposed. For,

1. there is no account of their having been appointed as such.

2. The expression is not one which would have been used if they [had] been. It would have been, "who were distinguished apostles." Comp. Ro 1:1 1Co 1:1 2Co 1:1 Col 1:1.

3. It by no means implies that they were apostles. All that the expression fairly implies is, that they were known to the other apostles; that they were regarded by them as worthy of their affection and confidence; that they had been known by them, as Paul immediately adds, before he was himself converted. They had been converted before he was, and were distinguished in Jerusalem among the early Christians, and honoured with the friendship of the other apostles.

4. The design of the office of apostles was to bear witness to the life, death, resurrection, doctrines, and miracles of Christ. Comp. Mt 10 Ac 1:21,22 22:15. As there is no evidence that they had been witnesses of these things, or appointed to it, it is improbable that they were set apart to the apostolic office,

5. The word apostles is used sometimes to designate messengers of churches; or those who were sent from one church to another on some important business; and if this expression meant that they were apostles, it could only be in some such sense as having obtained deserved credit and eminence in that business. See Php 2:25 2Co 8:23.

keras said:

The hymn: 'Jerusalem' makes this assertion.

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The hymn 'Jerusalem' asks the questions;
"And did those feet in ancient times .......?
And was the holy Lamb of God ......?
And did the countenance divine .....?
"And was Jerusalem builded here .....?"

The answer is; no.

Hentenza said:

If it seems too good to be true it probably is. Unfortunately scammers appeal to emotion and prey on the weak. Best thing to do is to verify any claim to make sure is true. The good thing about the internet is that it usually will have information that will help catch the scam for those that research the claim.

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Unless, of course, the mainframe system is responsible for the scams and has produced unlimited studies or documents without merit.