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  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

In China, social media is bursting with support for Palestine — and blame for Washington

What do you all think? Here is an excerpt from the article:
Like in the rest of the world, discussion on the Israel-Palestine conflict has surged on Weibo. The three most popular hashtags related to the fighting have collectively been viewed over 1 billion times, per data seen by Insider.

On the biggest posts, support for Palestine is clear. "Normal people will support Palestine. It's evident that Palestine is fighting for survival. It is almost at the end of the line," said the top comment in a report by state media agency Xinhua.

"Israel can win the war with the support of the United States, but it will never get the support of the world's righteous people," another person wrote.

Antisemitic comments, not directed at Israel but at Jewish people, abounded on Weibo as well, as of Tuesday morning Beijing time.

Notably, the Israeli Embassy in China has received positive comments and well-wishes. But its account has also locked comments on several of its recent posts about the conflict, including one that had more than 1,100 responses.

Whoever Gets Sense Loves His Own Soul

Proverbs 19 (select verses)

“Whoever gets sense loves his own soul;
he who keeps understanding will discover good.” V. 8 ESV

If we are people of good sense, we are people who exercise good judgment and wisdom and discernment. We do not live by (we’re not ruled by) our emotions. That doesn’t make us unfeeling people nor does it say that we never are drawn toward responding with our emotions. We are feeling people. But good sense lets us know that we can’t go just with how we feel, but we must go with what makes sense, with what is wise and discerning, and with sound judgment, especially in resisting the temptations of Satan.

And why does it say that whoever gets sense loves his own soul? Well, we read in the New Testament that those of us of genuine God-persuaded faith in Jesus Christ are to be those who have died with Christ to sin, who daily by the Spirit are putting sin to death, and who are walking in obedience to our Lord in holy living. But then it goes on and tells us that if we don’t die to sin, but we continue in deliberate and habitual sin, and if we don’t obey our Lord in righteous living, that we will not inherit eternal life with God.

[Matt 7:21-23; Lu 9:23-26; Jn 6:35-58; Jn 15:1-11; Rom 1:18-32; Rom 2:6-8; Rom 6:1-23; Rom 8:1-14; 1 Co 6:9-10; 2 Co 5:10; Gal 5:16-21; Gal 6:7-8; Eph 5:3-6; Col 1:21-23; Col 3:5-11; 1 Jn 1:5-10; 1 Jn 2:3-6; 1 Jn 3:4-10; Heb 10:23-31; 1 Co 10:1-22; Heb 3:1-19; Heb 4:1-13; 1 Pet 1:17-21; Rev 21:8,27; Rev 22:14-15]

“Whoever keeps the commandment keeps his life;
he who despises his ways will die.” V. 16 ESV

Now many people today are teaching that we, under the New Covenant, do not have to obey the commandments of God (under the New Covenant). But we do! Just read the noted verses above. For Jesus said that not everyone who says to him, “Lord, Lord,” will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one DOING the will of God the Father. And he said if anyone would come after him, he must deny self, take up his cross daily (die daily to sin and to self) and follow him in obedience (see Matthew 7:21-23; Luke 9:23-26).

And then we read in 1 John 2:3-6 that if we claim to know God but we do not keep (obey) his commandments, that we do not know him, and we are liars if we say we do. And in 1 John 1:5-10 it says that if we claim to be in fellowship with God/Christ, but while we are still walking in (living in deliberate and habitual) sin, we are liars. And in 1 John 3:4-10 we read that if sin is our practice, and not righteousness, we don’t even know God, we are not born of God, but of the devil, and we do not have eternal life with God.

“Listen to advice and accept instruction,
that you may gain wisdom in the future.
Many are the plans in the mind of a man,
but it is the purpose of the Lord that will stand.” Vv. 20-21 ESV

So, we need to be people who listen to wisdom and instruction from the Lord. Example: Without naming names, yesterday I submitted a writing somewhere to be posted online which was Scripture verse after Scripture verse, and it was rejected, while at that same location (Christian based) other entries were accepted which were not supported with Scripture. So they chose to reject the Scriptures in favor of what is popular. But we need to not ignore the Scriptures which are meant for us, the church.

And I am not saying that we should just accept everything anyone tells us in the name of Jesus, even if they are quoting Scriptures. For many people quote Scriptures out of context and then twist them to say what they do not teach in context, and for the intended purpose to deceive and to lead people away from Jesus Christ and away from the truth of the gospel of Christ in order to follow after another Jesus and a different gospel from the Jesus and the gospel of the Scriptures. So we do need to test what we hear.

But we shouldn’t just summarily reject Scriptures which don’t fit in with our theology or which don’t fit with our lifestyles of choice. We need to be people who are searching the Scriptures and who are studying them in context and who are seeking the Lord for wisdom and guidance and who want to know the truth, so that we are those who obey the truth. But far too many people have decided what they will accept or not accept, and so they reject what they don’t want to believe, even if it’s as obvious as the nose on their faces.

“The fear of the Lord leads to life,
and whoever has it rests satisfied;
he will not be visited by harm.” V. 23 ESV

Now the fear of the Lord has to do with reverence, respect, honor, and obedience. It has to do with us taking him and his word seriously and applying the word of God, meant for us Christians, to our daily lives. We don’t just mouth empty words of confession of Christ as Lord, but we are the people of God who believe his word and who put it into daily practice, by the Spirit, through God-persuaded faith in Christ Jesus, in the power, strength, and wisdom of God. We are not living in deliberate and habitual sin.

For if we want to have eternal life with God and have heaven guaranteed us when we die, we need to be those who, by the grace of God, are walking in the ways of the Lord, who are dying to sin daily, and who are living for the Lord and for his righteousness. This does not make us perfect people, but we do not use lack of perfection ever as an excuse to continue in deliberate and habitual and even sometimes premeditated sin against our Lord and against other humans. But we obey our Lord, in practice, because we love him.

[See noted Scripture references above]

For Our Nation

An Original Work / September 11, 2012

Bombs are bursting. Night is falling.
Jesus Christ is gently calling
You to follow Him in all ways.
Trust Him with your life today.
Make Him your Lord and your Savior.
Turn from your sin. Follow Jesus.
He will forgive you of your sin;
Cleanse your heart, made new within.

Men betraying: Our trust fraying.
On our knees to God we’re praying,
Seeking God to give us answers
That are only found in Him.
God is sovereign over all things.
Nothing from His mind escaping.
He has all things under His command,
And will work all for good.

Jesus Christ is gently calling
You to follow Him in all ways.

Men deceiving: We’re believing
In our Lord, and interceding
For our nation and its people
To obey their God today.
He is our hope for our future.
For our wounds He offers suture.
He is all we need for this life.
Trust Him with your life today.

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Biden releases 75,000,000 to Palestinians shortly before attack

Biden slammed after report claims WH released $75M for Palestinians hours before attack​

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The 1st Americans were not who we thought they were

Here's a pretty good article and review of the oldest archaeological sites in the Americas. The question of when the first humans arrived is still not answered but "new discoveries began turning back the clock on the first Americans' arrival."

The 1st Americans were not who we thought they were

israel

Please be in deep prayer for the believers in Israel, they need much wisdom and prayer.

Continue to stand with Israel Psalm 122

Prayercast | Israel

Israel people groups, languages and religions | Joshua Project

UN-REACHED PEOPLES

PALESTINIAN ARAB

Pray that God will raise up faithful intercessors who will stand in the gap for the Palestinian Arabs in Israel.
Ask God to give Palestinian Arab believers opportunities to share the love of Christ with their own people.
Pray that their traditional Muslim culture will soften, creating open doors for the good news to be preached among Palestinian Arabs.
Ask the Lord to raise up strong Disciple Making Movement among the Palestinian Arabs in this decade.


JEWISH ISRAELI

Ask the Lord of the harvest to send forth loving Christians to work among the Jews of Israel and Iran.
Ask the Holy Spirit to grant wisdom and favor to the missions agencies that are focusing on the Middle Eastern Jews.
Pray that the Jewish people will understand that Jesus is the long-awaited Messiah.
Ask the Lord to soften the hearts of the Jews towards Christians so that they might hear and receive the message of salvation.
Pray that God will grant Jewish believers favor as they share their faith in Christ with their own people.
Pray that strong local churches will be raised up among the Middle Eastern Jews.


MOUNTAIN JEWISH

Pray for a spiritual hunger among the many Jewish Tats who view their "Jewishness" as an ethnic identity with little spiritual substance. Pray that Mountain Jewish people will be willing to view the JESUS Film and listen to Bible Broadcasts in Israel. Pray that God will work on the hearts of Christians and Jewish believers to establish friendships with these Mountain Jewish people in Israel. Pray that they understand that if they come to accept Jesus it will not change Jewish identity.

YUDI

Pray that the Yudi people will open their minds and hearts to the overwhelming power of God and his grace as found in Jesus.

Pray that they will hear of the wonderful grace of Jesus through God’s servants and radio broadcasts.

Pray for many Yudi people making disciples of others who make even more disciples.

International Women’s Rights Orgs Quiet On Kidnapping And Sexual Violence In Israel

A spokesperson for Equality Now told the DCNF that it condemns “any use of sexual and gender based violence as a weapon of war, which is a grave violation of international human rights” and that the protection of women and children should be “prioritized.” The spokesperson did not answer the DCNF’s questions about why the organization had not made a public statement on Hamas’ attacks against Israeli women.

The Women’s International League for Peace and Freedom (WILPF) and the Global Fund for Women (GFW), have similarly not mentioned the violence in Israel. GFW blames Israel’s “military occupation” for gender-based violence and has an entire section of its website dedicated to the “gender-based violence against Palestinian women, girls, and gender nonconforming people.”

The MeToo Movement...

Nebraska mother sentenced to 2 years for helping her daughter get illegal abortion and dispose of fetus (daughter got 90 days)

A Nebraska mother who provided an illegal abortion for her daughter and helped dispose of the fetus gets 2 years in prison, report says

The sentence comes after Jessica Burgess, 42, pleaded guilty in July to two felonies – removing, concealing or abandoning a dead human body, and performing an abortion beyond 20 weeks – and a misdemeanor charge of false reporting.

Burgess’s daughter, Celeste Burgess, now 19, was sentenced in July to 90 days in jail after pleading guilty to a felony charge of removing, concealing or abandoning a dead human body.

The pills purchased by Jessica Burgess are not prescribed by doctors after a pregnancy has reached 10 weeks, Madison County Attorney Joe Smith said, according to the Norfolk Daily News.

[The daughter was 28 weeks along. One example of an unsafe illegal abortion.]

RFK Jr. announces divorce from the Democratic Party, launches indy 2024 run

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. launched an independent bid for the presidency on Monday, dropping his Democratic primary challenge to President Biden in a speech that called on voters to “reclaim” their country from major parties that he said have war-mongered, abandoned unity and fallen short on issues such as health care, the environment and housing.


Mr. Kennedy took aim at extreme factions who are “getting us to hate each other,” saying corrupt leaders have rigged the system in their favor while seniors, veterans, farmers and others are left behind.

“The most hateful voices of course are always the loudest but there are a lot of quiet Americans who are looking with disgust at the vitriol, the name-calling and the venom,” he told a cheering crowd in Philadelphia. “They want it to end. They want us to get along.”

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Hamas attack puts new attention on terrorism at U.S. border

Hamas’ sneak attack into Israel across a heavily fortified border has focused new attention on America’s own borders, where Republicans say the next 9/11-style attackers may be planning to enter — or already have.

Lawmakers demanded President Biden acknowledge the risks to the U.S. and respond with more border walls, troop deployments and an end to the catch-and-release free-for-all that has allowed millions of unauthorized migrants to disperse to communities across the country.

“We have to take the example of what just happened here and say to our own intelligence, what do we have along our border? What cells have we allowed to come in here?” Rep. Kevin McCarthy, former speaker of the House, told radio host Hugh Hewitt on Monday.

Refuting My Previous Position on Spirit Baptism Replacing Water Baptism:

Introduction:

I originally started out believing that Christians should be water-baptized. Then one day, a believer brought up how Spirit baptism replaced water baptism by mentioning Acts 19:1-7. At first glance, it appeared this passage taught Spirit baptism replaces water baptism. I believed this for about a year or so. Then one day, my belief that Spirit baptism replaced water baptism was challenged by another believer. So I began to re-examine what I believed on this matter yet again. In other words, to make a long story short, I discovered that inferences are made off of certain verses when they can equally be in defense of water baptism still being in effect. In short, a believer would need something like the following words to defend their belief that Spirit baptism replaces water baptism:​
“And the apostle Paul said to the believers gathered together. My brothers. We should no longer water baptize. This was the old way that no longer applies to us anymore. Only the apostle John was to water baptize. We cannot baptize in the name of Jesus anymore. The Spirit now baptizes us when we believe on Jesus Christ.” (Imaginary Bible passage).​
Also, a Christian video that was not even focused on water baptism primarily had double confirmed my own conviction on the matter. It was a video on faith. You can check that out here. (Note: Please understand I do not share all views expressed by Alan Ballou in the video; I agree with his teaching on sin and salvation). Anyways, my New Position is my Original Position in regards to water baptism.​
My Previous Position was believing that Spirit Baptism had replaced Water Baptism.​
I now no longer hold to this viewpoint.​
My New Position (Original Position) is that water baptism is required of Christians but it is non-salvific.​
Spirit baptism is what happens when a person receives Jesus Christ as their Savior (John 1:12), they believe the gospel message in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, and they seek forgiveness with Jesus (Romans 10:9, Romans 10:13).​

Refuting My Previous Position on Spirit Baptism Replacing Water Baptism:

#1. My Previous Position would use Ephesians 4:5 which says that there is “one baptism.”​
My rebuttal (My New Position): Ephesians 4:5 is in context to behavior and not what God does upon us. Ephesians 4:1-2 says, “I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;”. Ephesians 4:14 says, “That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;” We have one faith just as we have on baptism. Both the faith and baptism are things we must employ and not God. Jesus Himself tells us in the great commission that we are to teach all that He commanded Him baptizing in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost in Matthew 28. This is exactly what the apostles did in that they baptized in that one name that represents all three persons of the Godhead or Trinity (Which was the name of Jesus). At no point did God tell them to stop baptizing in the name of Jesus. This is what we need to see in Scripture if such a thing actually happened.​
#2. My Previous Position would use 1 Corinthians 12:13 as proof. 1 Corinthians 12:13 says, “For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.”​
My rebuttal (My New Position): This is not actually saying Spirit baptism replaces water baptism. This is merely describing what the Spirit does to us when we accept the Lord as our Savior. In the early church, they obeyed the Lord’s instructions on water baptism in the name of Jesus. The apostles would water baptize right away once a person established faith in Jesus Christ as their Savior. When a person was water baptized, the Spirit would come upon them. This is what happened in Acts 19 when Paul was about to water baptize believers in the name of Jesus (See: Acts 19:1-7). As Paul was about to baptize them in water in the name of Jesus, and he laid his hand upon the Ephesian believers to immerse them in water, they received the baptism of the Holy Spirit. If for some reason Paul was not to water baptize in the name of Jesus in this instance, then why didn’t the Spirit say not to water baptize these Ephesian believers in the name of Jesus? Anyways, the point here is that when a believer was water baptized, they would in most cases be Spirit baptized as a result. Granted, there were exceptions to the rule on this like with Cornelius and his family. But Peter expressed how they also needed to be water baptized, and neither Jesus, nor the Holy Spirit objected to Peter water baptizing them. Neither do we see the apostles gathering together to discuss this issue and explaining how things have changed, either. In Acts 15, we learn that the Gentile believers were not required to keep the Laws of Moses. The point here is that this event recorded in Scripture clearly lets us know that Gentile believers are not obligated to be under the Old Covenant system of law through Moses. Its clear. But saying that water baptism has ended is not clear from Scripture.​
#3. My Previous Position: The prophecy and fulfillment of the new baptism: John the Baptist stated: “I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:” (Matthew 3:11). Jesus stated: “For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.” (Acts of the Apostles 1:5).​
My rebuttal (My New Position): In regards to being baptized into the Spirit with these verses, this is referring a very specific event, which was Pentecost. This event is not repeatable. First, we are not Jewish believers. Second, Jewish believers are not told to go to Jerusalem and wait there today. Foreign Jews are not now expected to repeat this event in Jerusalem with the Spirit translating their languages again. This is a unique event in church history and these verses refer to this unique event and they are not repeatable for us today. It was the birth of the church. Granted, John’s baptism of water does not apply anymore. We are now to be water baptized in the name of Jesus after believing in Christ as our Savior. When this happens genuinely, we will be baptized by the Spirit. This is exactly what we see described to us in the rest of the book of Acts.​
#4. My Previous Position would quote 1 Corinthians 1:17 as proof. 1 Corinthians 1:17 says, “For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.”​
My Rebuttal (My New Position): At first glance, this may sound like water baptism has ended by Paul making this statement. However, Paul recounts how he has baptized some in this chapter and he did not mention how baptism was no longer in effect anymore. So this must mean that Paul’s main thrust of being a minister for Jesus Christ is not baptism but it is preaching the gospel. Meaning, Paul is saying, I come not to just baptize alone or as the main thrust of my mission, but it is to preach the gospel. In other words, baptism does not mean anything if there is no preaching of the gospel that should come before it. This is the most logical deduction to conclude based on the context given to us in this chapter.​
#5. My Previous Position would quote Acts of the Apostles 18 that says, “Apollos… knowing only the baptism of John… when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.” In short, Aquila and Priscilla (who were taught by Paul) expounded the Word of God more perfectly unto Apollos because he only knew of John’s baptism of water. Apollos needed to learn of Spirit baptism (Which is the true New Covenant way of being baptized).​
My rebuttal (My New Position): Nothing in Acts 18 describes how water baptism in the name of Jesus has ended. John’s water baptism of repentance is what is in view of ending here. To put it to you another way, there is a distinction between John’s water baptism of repentance, vs. water baptism done in the name of Jesus. They are not the same thing. In John’s baptism a person would confess of their sins to God as they were being water baptized. This was called the baptism of repentance. But when a believer is water baptized under the New Covenant, they first are to believe the gospel as found in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 that basically says that we are to believe that Christ died for our sins, He was buried, and risen the third day for our salvation. Then one can be water baptized in the name of Jesus and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. This is the new way and it was not the way of the Old Covenant with John’s water baptism of repentance. Yes, believers still need to repent, or seek forgiveness with the Lord Jesus, but we are to first believe the gospel before being water baptized and this was to be done in the name of Jesus (the name that represents all three persons of the Trinity or Godhead).​
#6. My Previous Position would use Acts 19 as proof. Acts of the Apostles 19 says, “And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. And all the men were about twelve.” In other words, the believers at Ephesus only knew of John’s baptism of water, and they were not aware of the Holy Ghost. So Paul baptized them into the Holy Ghost by laying his hands on them. So they received the baptism of the Spirit.​
My rebuttal (My New Position): This was the passage that initially swayed me to believe that Spirit baptism replaced water baptism. But after re-examining this passage yet again more closely, I noticed that Paul says he baptized. If this was Spirit baptism, then Paul could not have baptized them. So what is going on here is that Paul needed correct these believer’s on John’s water baptism and have them experience the gift of the Holy Spirit. Notice, that Paul says to believe on Jesus in this passage. This is the new way. Believing on Jesus first, and then be water baptized in the name of Jesus. So when Paul is about to submerge these believers in water, the Spirit comes upon them. This shows the validity of what Paul was doing. If for some reason Paul was not acting in the will of God by water baptizing them, then how could the Spirit come upon them? Would not God explain it to them so they are acting in God’s will? At Pentecost, they believed the gospel message and they were to repent, be baptized, and receive the gift of the Spirit. Acts 2 is clearly talking about water baptism. There is no way around this one. The only excuse is to say that Peter made a mistake while baptizing them. But this was the birth of the church, and why would God have imperfection riddle such a birth? It makes no sense. God would want them to be within His will.​
#7. My Previous Position would use Mark 16:16 as proof. Mark 16:16 says: “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”​
My Rebuttal (New Position): This again is not a contradiction with the continuation of water baptism in the name of Jesus. I see this verse as referring to either water baptism or Spirit baptism. Again, with either reading it does not say that water baptism has ended by any means. Spirit baptism compliments water baptism as we see in Acts 2 and with Cornelius and his family. Peter still water baptized Cornelius and his family after they were Spirit baptized. God did not say to Peter…. “No, do not do this, I have already baptized them.” This is what we need to see if Spirit baptism had replaced water baptism in any form.​
#8. My Previous Position would bring forth Hebrews 9:10. Hebrews 9:10 says, “Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.“ The word “washings“ is the Greek word “baptismos“ (βαπτισμός) (Check out here for the Strong’s definition). In other words, Hebrews 9:10 is saying that diverse baptisms (washings) were imposed on believers until the time of reformation. Meaning, water baptism will give way or pass away until the time of reformation (Which means that Spirit baptism is now the one and only true baptism for today).​
My Rebuttal (My New Position): I believe the time of reformation was the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. The Old Covenant way had officially ended with Christ’s death upon the cross. So all of the old ritual washings of the Old Covenant system would end that was tied to the Laws of Moses and John’s water baptism of repentance. The New Covenant is not full of tons of different washings or water rituals. There is only one now and not many. This is how I would understand this. If not, then we would have multiple contradictions in Scripture and a hidden narrative that Peter and others were water baptizing by mistake and acting outside of God’s will without the Lord correcting them (When He cleary could have done so).​
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Is Existence Possible?

Hello everyone,

I just would like to share something about existence.

Suppose, there is a one inch object. We Traverse 0.5". That is the endpoint of the first half. The beginning of the next half cannot be next to 0.5", since there is no such a thing as a next point in space, unless space is not infinitely divisible. That means the endpoint of the first half and beginning of the second half has things in between. This would hold true about every part of the object, which would make it impossible for the object to have a part bigger than zero inches. Which would make it impossible to exist.

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem (Israel)

Psalm 122:6

Normally a prayer for the eternal salvation of the Jewish people. But also for their need and safety in life
especially in days like these.

Few can imagine the horror they are going through now...
or the threat of this horror they live with day by day.

Sha'alu shalom Yeushalayim, Abba. Hosha nah!

How Hamas duped Israel

"A careful campaign of deception ensured Israel was caught off guard when the Palestinian Islamist group Hamas launched its devastating attack, enabling a force using bulldozers, hang gliders and motorbikes to take on the Middle East's most powerful army."

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This best argument explaining the Earth’s Age

Source: CCC on TikTok

Dialogue:

Atheist: Earth is 6000 years old according to the bible. But science is proving its millions and billions of years old. And you still believe in God??

Christian: God created Adam on the 6th day, so if I say on the 7th day, Adam is 1 day old, technically it’s true right?

But according to Science he’s an adult.
How is he 1 day old and yet a full grown man?

Because God created him like that with an inbuilt age and the same with this whole universe.

Top Evangelical Leader: “We’ve Lost Our Credibility to the Outside World” | Amanpour and Company

Hi all,

This just popped up in my YouTube feed, and although I am not personally an Evangelical of the type that Mr. Moore is (I'd like to think all Christians are evangelical in the sense of being ready and willing to share the good news, but "Evangelical" here has a different, more denominationally-focused meaning), I think he has some interesting thoughts on the future and present circumstances of Evangelical Christianity in America, so I figured I'd share it here, in hopes of sparking reflection and discussion. I'd love to read what everyone who watches it has to say about the points raised in it by Mr. Moore.

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Church Baptism

Hi

Can I have some advice please. I have not been christened as a child nor have I been Baptised in the Church. Is this something I have to do or am I already Baptised through my confessions and repentance of Sin?

Its a confusing subject having read through variable sources, but would like to formalise my union with Jesus.

I have made the decision to be formally Baptised at my local church so I have started on that journey, but I’m interested in thoughts.

The last words of Jesus in Matthew 28:19 resonate


Thanks
David

I think one can die from heart-sorrow

Most people have heard that you can die of grief. But how? Yes, you breathe, and your heart beats, because you want to live. It's not like it's an automatic brain-function. That is why you can also control your breathing, because you do it because you want to live. So, say you lose someone you love then, and lose the will to live, then the heart would have stopped. I don't know if this has actually happened then, but since the heart beats, and you breathe, because you want to live, then that is the theory, possible. The soul is in the brain-stem, not the brain, so it is controlled from there. I think it is possible then, to just lose the will to live, completely. Have you been with someone for maybe 50 years, and that's all for the person, so why not?

I initially thought Trump would have prevented the Horrible attacks in Israel

I initially thought the horrible attacks in Israel would not have happened if Trump was president. But I cannot back that up at all I think I was brainwashed by Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager.

The Abraham peace accords basically have nothing to do with Hamas as far as I can tell.
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Our God is Testing Us

Deuteronomy 13:1-5 ESV

“If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him. But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from your midst.”

Now this passage of Scripture is under the Old Covenant laws, so not everything written here is going to apply directly to our lives today. But there are some things taught here which are repeated for us in the New Testament under the New Covenant, and there are things taught here which we can learn from both in what to apply and in what not to apply and in how some of these teachings here are being twisted and misused today to discourage some followers of Christ from following the Lord in obedience.

Some people today who profess faith in Jesus Christ are discounting that God speaks to people via dreams at all, citing such passages as this one. But remember the words of Peter on the day of Pentecost when some of the crowd thought the believers in Jesus were drunk because they were filled with the Holy Spirit? He countered that notion by quoting from Joel 2:

“And in the last days it shall be, God declares,
that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh,
and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
and your young men shall see visions,
and your old men shall dream dreams;
even on my male servants and female servants
in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy.”

So, the sin is not in having dreams, and the sin is not in believing that God speaks sometimes through dreams to people, but the sin of the dreamers in this passage in Deuteronomy is that they were using their dreams to tell the people, “Let us go after other gods which you have not known and let us serve them.” For Joel’s prophecy and Peter’s words on the day of Pentecost solidify for us that God may indeed speak to some of us through dreams, but the dreams cannot be teaching rebellion against God and against his word.

And a dream doesn’t have to be something you dream about when you are sleeping, but it can be an ambition or a desire or a goal. For we have many false teachers within the gatherings of the church who are sharing with the body of Christ their visions, and their goals, and their ambitions and desires for their “churches,” which are usually, but not always, business goals and business plans and schemes and visions for numerically growing their “churches” (businesses) by marketing them to the world.

So the main thing we need to watch out for here is to pay attention to what pastors of church congregations or any Bible teachers are teaching the people. We should be testing their words against the teachings of the Scriptures, in context, to make certain that what they are teaching is the truth and not lies. For lies are spreading like wildfire within the gatherings of these modern market-driven and flesh-driven “churches” (businesses), because they are of the flesh of man and not of the Spirit of God.

So, we need to really watch out for the lies, especially since so many of them are so cleverly and stealthily being blended right in with the truth to where they are barely recognizable by the unsuspecting who are not testing what they hear to see if it is truth. Misimpressions, which are indirect lies, are one of the big ways in which the lies are being spread today, because they are a lot harder to prove than more direct lies. But many people are leading the church away from God to follow after humans, instead.

Now the Lord allows liars and lies to exist. He allows wolves in sheep’s clothing and charlatans to spread the lies. It is not his will that they do this, but God allows evil to exist. For what does it say here? God was testing his people to know whether they loved the Lord their God with all their heart, and with all their soul. So he allows us to be tested to see whether or not we are going to follow after the lies and the liars or if we are going to stay true to him and follow him and not fall to temptation to wander from him.

For we are to be the people of God who walk (in conduct, in practice) after the Lord our God and who fear him and who keep (obey) his commandments (New Covenant), and who obey his voice speaking to our hearts, and who will serve him and hold fast to him regardless of how we are treated by others, even by family members and friends and neighbors and by others who also profess faith in Jesus Christ. For if you are speaking the truth and exposing the lies, you will have many turn against you and desert you.

Now this was a law under the Old Covenant that they were to put to death those who were false prophets. But a false prophet is not someone who might get something wrong sometimes, or who might misunderstand something. The Lord’s disciples regularly got things wrong and misunderstood what Jesus was saying, and so he had to explain to them what he meant. And the Scriptures teach that we know in part and we prophesy in part, so we don’t know it all yet (1 Corinthians 13:9-10).

So how are false prophets and false teachers described biblically? They are people who willfully and deliberately bring in destructive heresies. And people follow their sensuality. And they exploit you with false words, because of their greed. And they count it pleasure to revel in the daytime, and they have eyes full of adultery, insatiable for sin, and they entice unsteady souls, and they have gone astray, and they are willfully leading the people of God to go after what they know is evil and wicked and against God.

[Matt 7:15-23; Matt 24:11-24; Lu 6:26; John 10:1-15; 2 Co 11:13-15; Php 3:2; 1 Tim 1:3-7; 1 Tim 6:3-10; 2 Peter 2:1-22; 1 John 4:1-6; Jude 1:3-23]

But the law under the Old Covenant that taught them that they had to put that person to death is not repeated for us under the New Covenant. We are taught that we are to run away from them and that we are to expose them and their false teachings, but it is God alone who puts such people to death. Vengeance is God’s, not ours. The church’s responsibility would be to remove such a person from the church and to expose him and his false teachings so that the people will not follow them.

And this is the teaching that we must follow. And included in this is that we need to be people of God who are studying the Scriptures, in context, and who are applying the teachings given to the church, the body of Christ, to our daily lives. And we need to be testing what we hear and read to make certain that what we are hearing and reading is the truth, and then we need to reject the lies and follow the truth and expose the fruitless deeds of darkness for what they are so others do not follow them.

Safe Am I

By Mildred Leightner Dillon

Safe Am I, Safe Am I,
In The Hollow Of His Hand.
Sheltered Over, Sheltered Over
With His Love Forever More.

No Ill Can Harm Me, No Foe Alarm Me;
For He Keeps Both Day And Night.
Safe Am I, Safe Am I
In The Hollow Of His Hand.

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'God the Son' is unbiblical

Nowhere in the Bible is Jesus called God the Son. ... Yet, this phrasing is used over and again... Such a central concept to the Trinitarian description of God has been kept out of the Bible scriptures. I don't think that is an accident.
Whether you are a Trinitarian or not... there must be something unacceptable to God about using that particular phrase.
There must be a subtle misunderstanding in using that phrase, or it would be in the Bible.

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