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What do you do if the bible scares you?

Hi,

I'm not doing well. In fact I don't even know if it's a good idea to ask such questions on a forum because you get so many different
answers/views from different people. But at the same time I feel a strong need to talk to someone about this and get some input.


I'll try to make this short. Yesterday I was listening to a sermon and the speaker quoted from Matthew 10, he that endures til the end will be saved.

He said that this is a warning to christians. He made it look like this is about salvation and that unless you "endure" you're not getting saved!!!!!!

This totally scared me.

Then I read the rest of Matthew 10 and felt even worse.

There are simply SO many statements from Jesus in verses 33-39 which sound so harsh and scary. I really don't know how to deal with this.

I don't know how other christians react to such verses, but I am TOTALLY disturbed and scared by them.

I also cannot make such statements from Jesus fit to other statements which sound totally different.

How, for example, does Jesus saying he will not cast anyone out who comes to him fit together with Jesus saying that if you love your parents more

than him you're not worthy of him?

This stuff simply sounds so harsh.

Then how shall I know if I am "worthy" of Jesus?!?!?

What if Jesus, if He was here on earth, would say to me: Sorry, you're not worthy of me. You're not picking up your cross, you're not dedicated enough,

you're not willing to really suffer for me!?

When I get such thoughts it totally drags me down and scares me and makes me feel totally separated from God.

And this happens ALL THE TIME whenever I read a verse in the bible which sounds scary or which puts pressure on me.

I don't know how to deal with this anymore. :(


Have you ever heard that a christian is scared of reading in the bible because of all the scary verses?! This is simply crazy.

I have made this experience over the years SO many times. I read in the bible, come across scary verses, then I instantly feel totally miserable

and distanced from God.

Because of this I really don't even dare anymore to read in the bible.



33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. (-> is this about salvation?
does this mean if you're held at gunpoint by a terrorist and then you're too afraid to say you're a christian then you'll lose your salvation
and God is done with you?!?!?)


34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. (what does this mean? does this mean that Jesus
wants people to get into conflict over faith issues?)


35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
(what does this mean? does this mean that if you're a christian and your parents are not that you should stop obeying them if they somehow hinder
your christian activities, like for example going to church or meeting with other christians??!)


36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.


37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.


38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. (what does take up your cross even mean? how shall a person
know if she is taking up her cross "enough"? and what does it even mean when you're "not worthy"? is this about salvation??!?!)


39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. (what does this mean? to me it sounds like pressure.
when I read this i feel a lot of pressure. how shall I know if I fulfill these requirements?!)

Feeling guilty and rather overwhelmed by the conflict in Israel

Not sure where to post this, I chose this forum as this has more specifically to do with a dream I had years ago that I will post here.

"Back in 2014, I had a dream in which ISIS invaded the US from the south. Four ISIS fighters, wearing black Islamic militant garb pulled by hand a giant cannon into the heart of the country as me and 2 friends watched from a distance. They fired sporadically as they went and the news began reporting the conflict soon after the shots started. Well in Houston, ISIS fighters suddenly emerged and began multiplying rapidly, capturing men, women, and children. Those who resisted were rounded up in a big town square, stripped naked, and executed by beheading. People were cursing violently, women and children were being raped and sold into slavery. Towards the end of the dream I was presented with an opportunity to take up arms and fight against ISIS or lay them down and live a peaceful life, one that I somehow knew would bring hardship and suffering. I chose to lay down the weapons. An overwhelming feeling of despair took hold of me. That feeling lasted for several days."

Now what does this dream have to do with Israel, and why is it causing me so much grief?

True, my dream has a number of differences from reality. It's not ISIS but Hamas. It's not in America, but in Israel. But truthfully, that's about where the differences end.

What do we know?

Hamas attacked Israel, secretly from the south, pre-empted by a massive artillery bombardment. They captured men, women, and children suddenly and massacred many of them. Many times, God uses symbolism in dreams to represent actual events, and we need interpretation to see the meaning.

I just feel overwhelmed that I was warned about this and did nothing. Now truth be told, what could I do? Nothing, besides pray, which I have been. Actually, just a few weeks ago, this dream came back to memory after years of dormancy and I wasn't sure why. I suppose I know why now, but perhaps there's more meaning to it than just the Israeli conflict?
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Texas boy, 12, convicted for killing Sonic worker with AR-style rifle

A 12-year-old Texas boy was recently found “the equivalent of guilty” in the murder of a Sonic restaurant worker with an AR-style rifle after the child’s uncle got into a fight with the employee, according to authorities.

The boy is scheduled to be sentenced on Thursday, the sheriff’s office said. A juvenile convicted of murder in Texas could face up to 40 years in prison, according to state attorneys.

Police say the incident unfolded when the boy’s uncle, Angel Gomez, started urinating in the parking lot of the Sonic on the night of May 13. Matthew Davis, a 32-year-old Sonic employee, confronted Gomez, 20, for “being disorderly in the parking lot,” and the argument between them got physical, according to the Keene Police Department.

Then, Gomez’s nephew, who was sitting in the back seat of the car, retrieved an AR-style .22 rifle and shot Davis at least six times, according to police.

Gomez is also charged with murder. if he’s convicted, Gomez could face a sentence of five to 99 years in prison.

Davis is survived by a fiancée and his 10-year-old son, Trystyn, who lives in Louisiana.

Family members [said] Davis had just moved to Keene and started working at Sonic shortly before the shooting. [A] family spokesperson [said] that Davis was making money at Sonic to buy an iPhone for Trystyn so they could FaceTime together.

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Hamas-Israel News Thread

Let's try to keep this thread focused on the conflict, and within the rules. CNN Live Updates

What we're covering​

  • Horrors of Hamas' attack on border communities are emerging, with children found "butchered" in a kibbutz, the Israeli military said, and at least 1,200 people killed in Israel.
  • Israel is hammering Gaza with airstrikes, hitting hundreds of targets, reducing neighborhoods to rubble and killing at least 1,055 people, according to Palestinian officials.
  • A humanitarian crisis is swiftly unfolding in Gaza, with hundreds of thousands displaced and many cut off from food and electricity. The enclave’s only power station has stopped workingafter running out of fuel, the head of the Gaza power authority said Wednesday.
  • US President Joe Biden called the Hamas attack an "act of sheer evil," and confirmed 14 Americans were killed with others being held captive. Up to 150 hostages are believed to be held in Gaza, an Israeli official said. Meanwhile, the first shipment of weapons has arrived from the US since the Hamas attacks, Israel said.
  • Here's how to help humanitarian efforts in Israel and Gaza.

Israel's Enemies

One bit of scripture that nonbelievers or atheists like to point out is when God tells Joshua to kill all the Cananites, man, woman, and child - they say this is God promoting genocide and evil. As if God is subject to judgement by humans. Reportedly Joshua did not fully fill out this command, and left some alive.

I have always wondered that if they had done as commanded, and truly wiped out everyone living in Canaan at the time, maybe we wouldn't be having the dispute over Israel's land today? Maybe there wouldn't be Palestinian refugees and such, or Israel's constant wars? I have discussed this with someone before but they said the people today are not the descendants of the Canaanites then, so I guess my theory would be wrong. Does anyone else have any knowledge or thoughts on the subject?

I can't forgive myself

5 months ago I made a terrible mistake, I cleaned the house and left it a little wet thinking that it would soon dry out and come to nothing.
Then my mother fell and hurt her knee and almost hit her head, she didn't fight with me which makes me feel even more guilty, I can't forgive myself and I don't know what to do
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104-Year-Old Woman Dies After Becoming World's Oldest Skydiver

104-Year-Old Woman Dies After Becoming World's Oldest Skydiver​


I couldn't find an Orthodox Calendar mobile app to my liking, so decided to make one

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I wanted to download an Orthodox calendar but couldn’t find anything with a design to my liking. Most of them look pretty old and unintuitive. My friend and I decided to implement the calendar ourselves. And as we got to a point when we can show something, we decided to share it for those who might be interested. The app is still in development and we haven’t released it yet. Hopefully the initial version is coming this month.

The calendar gives you an opportunity to see feasts, saints and fast types for every day to keep track of major events and help with fasts.

So far we've designed basic features of the app (calendar view, settings). We’ve collaborated with a designer and are working on updating the app UI (as of now it’s more of a draft version). Also, some extra features like notifications are under development. I'll add some more technical info in the comments.

If you are interested in this app, please participate in a survey here. You can leave your feedback there and submit an email for us to contact you when the app is released. Feel free to share your thoughts in the comments too. Your suggestions are welcomed!


Some additional info about the app.

It’s being developed for both Android and iOS
The app supports the following languages:
  • English
  • Russian
  • Ukrainian
Some insights and trivia:
  • Only the Android version has been tested so far. iOS will be coming with future updates.
  • We considered adding a Greek translation as well. It’s on hold for now because I haven’t yet found a person to help with translation (and I experienced first hand that we can’t rely on Google Translate for sure)
  • We’ve created a Facebook channel for more casual audiences there
  • The development has actually been going for half of a year now, most of it was preparations of different sorts. Really hope we can get it out soon and work from there.

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Switched from Firefox to Edge...amazing results

Running a very old quad core. Always have used Firefox, but over time computer got slower and slower and so did the browser. I blamed the old computer for that. Went from Win7 to 10, slight improvement only because 7 was old and corrupted. Things got really bad with Firefox, having to close it out multiple times a day. Even when opened anew, it was still fairly slow. 10 has Edge so I gave it a try with all my normal tabs....runs super fast like I am on a newer computer and it's been two days and no restart and closing down of the browser has been needed. It's like having a completely different computer.
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OT: Prayers for the Holy Land

This is not a politics thread, nor political discussion, rather it is one on humanity.

A friend of mine grew up in a kibbutz outside of the Gaza Strip which was attacked over the weekend. Thank God their parents, siblings, and, nieces and nephews are safe. Unfortunately, many of their friends whom they grew up with were either killed or are presently among those who were abducted by Hamas. Their whereabouts and whether they are still alive or not are unknown.

Having studied both sides of this conflict, there are no truly innocent parties except for the civilians - even us Orthodox Christians likely share a burden of the evil because one of our own founded a terrorist organization that has contributed, and continues, to this conflict since at least the 1960s. For all of the evil things that the Israelis and Palestinians have done to each other this is the first time, to my knowledge, that either side has kidnapped children.

The Greek Orthodox Patriarch of Jerusalem along with the other heads of the Christians in the Holy Land call for peace: THE PATRIARCHS AND HEADS OF CHURCHES IN JERUSALEM UNITE IN A CALL FOR PEACE AND JUSTICE AMIDST UNFOLDING VIOLENCE


I think that we should at least, once again, add peace in the Holy Land to our prayer lists; especially for the little ones who have been kidnapped, killed, and massacred.

Priest to Pope Francis: ‘You are hurting my parish’ by promoting homosexuality


Fr. Joseph Illo


‘When you promote homosexuality, Holy Father, you hurt me and my parish. When you do not speak clearly, you make my priestly task very difficult,’ Father Joseph Illo wrote.


Dear Pope Francis,

I am writing to you in the spirit of parrhesia, a biblical word you have used several times to encourage us to speak freely, boldly, and without fear of disagreement. In your opening speech to the Synod delegates on Wednesday, you said that “everyone needs to express themselves freely.” Please receive the following words freely, not from Rome, but from the peripheries, from a simple parish priest.

My Papa Francesco, I must tell you that you are making my job as a parish priest difficult. I work in one of the declining parishes of San Francisco, California, a city that prides itself in having evolved beyond faith in God. In my city, the faith is openly mocked and attacked, and my parishioners are struggling to believe in Jesus. Most of their family members, friends, and co-workers have abandoned the Christian faith. My parishioners cannot wear a cross or speak the name of Jesus at work for fear of losing their jobs. Our schools teach their children from kindergarten to doubt the natural goodness of their bodies, and to despise marriage and family life. My parishioners are clinging to the simple truths of our faith, especially the Church’s teachings about the human person.

When you promote homosexuality, Holy Father, you hurt me and my parish. When you do not speak clearly, you make my priestly task very difficult. You have said that two men cannot “marry,” and that homosexual acts are wrong, but you also encourage bishops who bless same-sex unions. A female student from my parish, who attends a Jesuit-owned university, “married” another woman according to United States law. She later surgically removed her breasts and uterus to appear like a man. She hates her mother for raising her Catholic, and her mother grieves the loss of her daughter and grandchildren. But this college student points to you, Holy Father. She says you permit blessings for homosexual unions in Germany, and that you favor priests and cardinals who promote homosexual relations. She knows that you have appointed a European cardinal who promotes homosexual unions to lead the Synod.

Continued below.

US Congressman Santos faces more campaign finance charges


Oct 10 (Reuters) - U.S. Representative George Santos was hit with more criminal charges on Tuesday, with prosecutors accusing him of inflating his campaign's fundraising numbers and charging campaign contributors' credit cards without their consent.
A 23-count superseding indictment filed in federal court in Central Islip, New York charged the embattled Long Island congressman and his former treasurer, Nancy Marks, with falsely telling the Federal Election Commission (FEC) that their family members had made significant financial contributions.
This isn't just "campaign finance" violations. This would be straight-up grand theft sprinkled with identity theft.

Afghan earthquake

Afghan earthquake survivors sleep amid rubble as death toll nears 3,000 .


Survivors of a series of powerful earthquakes that struck western Afghanistan on Saturday have spent a second night sleeping amid the rubble of demolished villages as they search for loved ones using shovels. The death toll is approaching 3,000, according to senior Taliban officials.
In the regional capital of Herat city people slept in public parks and streets, fearing further tremors. The United States Geological Survey reported quakes on Monday of magnitude 5.9, 4.9 and 4.7 in rural areas.

Hell: A Bible Teaching?

This is a rather lengthy examination of the question of does hell exist? The answer to the question is no. Hell as most people know it is a Christian adoption of pagan mythology, and isn't a biblical teaching. The Skeptic often points out three possible interpretations. Those that don't go to heaven are tormented forever in hell; Those that don't go to heaven, just die; and Everyone goes to heaven after they die. None of these are correct biblical teachings. The Bible teaches that a few people go to heaven to judge and rule with Christ Jesus, the rest of the people who have ever (or will ever have) lived will either live forever in paradise Earth or suffer everlasting destruction. Not a literal torment, as in hell, but a simple death.

First I will address the question of hell's existence and then each of the points brought up by the skeptic in support of the aforementioned three interpretations.

The English Word Hell
The old English word hell means to cover or conceal. Similar words coming from the same root have a similar meaning. Hill for example is a mound of dirt or stone that covers the level surface of earth. Hull is the covering of a nut or the covered part of a ship. Heal is the covering of a wound. Hall is a building space which is used to cover people or goods. Hole is an uncovering. Shell.

In the early days to hell potatoes meant to cover them, as to store them in a cellar or underground. To hel (one l) a house meant to cover a portion of it with tile. The term heling a house is still used in the New England portions of the United States.

At first the use of hell had no pagan meaning to it. It was simply used as the common grave of man. To go to hell in the old English language meant simply that one was dead and buried. It was in Germany and England that the word began to evolve into the pagan unscriptural meaning of eternal punishment.

Poor Modern Translation
The original meaning of the word hell is not so much a poor translation of the Hebrew sheohl (English Transliteration sheol) and the Greek Haides (English transliteration hades), as much as it is a case of the word having evolved into a pagan meaning; the modern day translation of hell is misleading.

The Catholic Douay Version translates sheohl as hell 64 times and once as death. The King James Version translates sheohl 31 times as hell, 31 times as grave and 3 times as pit. This is common in older translations, such as is used by the English Revised Version (1885) where sheohl is transliterated in many cases but most of the occurrences were translated as grave, or pit. Hell being used 14 times. The American Standard Version (1901) transliterated sheohl in all 65 occurrences and haides in all ten of its occurrences, though the Greek word Geenna (English Gehenna) is translated hell.

The Hebrew Sheol
The Hebrew word sheol is the unseen resting place of the dead. It is not to be mistaken for the Hebrew words for individual burial place (qever - Judges 16:31), grave (qevurah - Genesis 35:20), or individual tomb (gadhish - Job 21:32) but rather the common grave of all mankind whatever the form of burial might be. The unconscious state of the dead in their grave.

The Greek philosophical teaching of the immortality of the human soul and hell began to infiltrate Jewish teachings probably around the time of Alexander The Great. The Bible itself, however, is in stark contrast to the teachings of pagan origin regarding the soul, which is not immortal (Ezekiel 18:4; Matthew 10:28) and therefore can't suffer forever in hell. The Bible also teaches that there is no consciousness in hell. (Ecclesiastes 9:4-10). Since we are freed from, or acquitted from sin upon death, further punishment would be unjust. (Romans 6:7)

Sheol corresponds with the Greek Haides, both being the unseen resting place of the dead. It is not a place of fire, but of darkness (Job 10:21) a place of silence (Psalm 115:17) rather than a place filled with tortured screams.

The Greek Hades
The Greek word Hades corresponds to the Hebrew Sheol as is indicated by the apostle Peter's reference to Psalms 16:10 at Acts 2:27-31 where Jesus had fulfilled David's prophecy that Jesus would not be left in hell. Peter quoted Psalms and used the Greek hades in place of sheol. Likewise Jesus himself said that like Jonah, he would spend three days in hell. (Jonah 1:17; Jonah 2:2; Matthew 12:40)

The Greek word Hades occurs 10 times in the Christian Greek scriptures. (Matthew 11:23; 16:18; Luke 10:15; 16:23; Acts 2:27, 31; Revelation 1:18; 6:8; 20:13-14)

It means the unseen place. In ten of the occurrences of hades it is in reference to death. It is not to be confused with the Greek word for grave (taphos), tomb (mnema) or memorial tomb (mnemeion), but is rather the common resting place of the dead. The place of death.

Jesus also uses hades at Matthew 11:23 and Luke 10:15 in a figurative way to indicate the debasement of Capernaum compared to heaven.

Also see The Rich Man And Lazarus below.

The Greek Gehenna
Unlike the Hebrew sheol and the Greek hades, there is really no excuse for mistaking the Greek Geenna (Hebrew Geh Hinnom - English Transliteration Gehenna) with the notion of any hell, either the old English word meaning covered or the pagan hell of today's Christianity.

The Christian Greek Gehenna is a literal place - a valley that lies South and South-West of ancient Jerusalem. It is the modern day Wadi er-Rababi (Ge Ben Hinnom), a deep, narrow valley. Today it is a peaceful and pleasant valley, unlike the surrounding dry and rocky terrain, and most certainly unlike the pagan / apostate Christian hell.​

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Modern Day Gehenna​


In the days of unfaithful Kings Manasseh and Ahaz idolatrous worship of the pagan god Baal was conducted in the place which was then known as Geh Hinnom, (the valley of Hinnom) including human sacrifices to fire. It is ironic that the pagan custom of burning in fire, as in hell, would have so clearly infiltrated the Christian teachings, considering that this practice was a detestable thing to Jehovah God, and his prophets spoke of a time when this place would be turned into a defiled and desolate place. (2 Chronicles 28:1-3; 33:1-6; Jeremiah 7:31-32; 32:35).

The prophecy was fulfilled in the days of faithful King Josiah, who had the place, especially the area known as Topeth polluted into a refuse heap. (2 Kings 23:10)

So it was that in the days of Jesus and the early Christian congregations, that the valley was known as a literal place where the carcasses of criminals and animals were thrown, having no hope for resurrection. The refuse there was kept burning with sulphur, which is abundant in the area. When Jesus used Gehenna as a figurative - a symbolic reference to the spiritually dead - the people in the area knew what he was talking about.

The Greek Tartarus
The Greek word Tartarus is found only once in scripture, at 2 Peter 2:4. It is often mistranslated as hell. Tartarus in the Christian Greek scriptures refers to a condition of debasement, unlike the pre-Christian pagan Tartarus (as in Homer's Iliad) which is a mythological prison. The word basically means the lowest place.

Peter refers to the angels who in the time of Noah forsook their original positions and became men in order to have relations with the women of earth. The result was their offspring being giants, the Nephilim, who caused so much destruction God had to bring forth the flood. (Genesis 6:1-4; Ephesians 6:10-12; Jude 1:6).

It is interesting that this verse is often mistranslated because when Jesus was resurrected from Sheol / Hades (Hell in some translations) on earth, he first went to tartarus to minister to the disobedient angels whom had been lowered in position - who happened to be in heaven in a position of debasement. This means that if you don't understand the mistranslation you would see Jesus go to hell on earth and then hell in heaven.

The Pagan Hell
The Pagan teaching of hell was adopted by the apostate Christian church. Today's thinking of hell comes more from Dante's Divine Comedy and Milton's Paradise Lost, but the teaching of hellfire is much older than the English word hell or Dante and Milton. It comes from Babylonian and Assyrian beliefs of a nether world. A place where gods and demons of great strength and fierceness presided over the cursed.

Ancient Egyptian beliefs considered the Other World to be a place of pits of fire for the cursed though they didn't think this lasted forever. Islamic teaching considers hell as a place of everlasting punishment. Hindus and Buddhists think of hell as a place of spiritual cleansing and final restoration.

Separation From God
Modern day Christians often try to soften the teaching of hell as a separation from God, but hell (as is often translated from the Hebrew Sheol and Greek Hades) can't be a separation from God, since God is in effect there - it is in front of him. He watches sheol for the time when the dead shall be resurrected. (Proverbs 15:11; Psalms 139:7-8; Amos 9:1-2).

Lazarus And The Rich Man
At Luke 16:19-31 is this parable. Jesus often taught people in a way which was easy for them to grasp. One way of doing this is through parables, or illustration. They are stories, which are not meant to be taken as literal accounts. Such is the case with the story of Lazarus and the Rich Man. Notice that the Rich man is buried in hades. If this account is to be taken literally then the Bible would contradict itself with all of the information being given in this article, but lets not leave it up to what may be thought to be my own personal interpretation.

Let it also be known that if this account is to be taken literally then that would make Jesus a liar. How so? How could Lazarus be at the bosom of Abraham in heaven when Jesus had already said that no man had ascended to heaven other than himself? (John 3:13).

The Lake Of Fire
The lake of fire is sometimes referred to as hell. The lake of fire is obviously a symbolic reference to everlasting destruction. Since hell itself is thrown into the lake of fire they can't be one and the same. Since death is thrown into the lake of fire and death isn't something that can be thrown literally, the lake is obviously symbolic. The fact that hell and death are symbolically destroyed by fire is harmonious with the end of sin which brought death. Those not thrown into the lake of fire are the meek who will inherit the earth and live forever upon it.

Secular And Religious References To Hell

"Sheol was located somewhere 'under' the earth . . . . The state of the dead was one of neither pain nor pleasure. Neither reward for the righteous nor punishment for the wicked was associated with Sheol. The good and bad alike, tyrants and saints, kings and orphans, Israelites and gentiles - all slept together without awareness of one another." - Encyclpaedia Britannica (1971, Vol. 11, p. 276)

"Hades . . . it corresponds to 'Sheol' in the O.T. and N.T., it has been unhappily rendered 'hell' " - Vine's Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words (1981, Vol. 2 p. 187)

"First it (Hell) stands for the Hebrew Sheohl of the Old Testament and the Greek Hades of the Septuagint and New Testament . Since Sheohl in Old Testament times referred simply to the abode of the dead and suggested no moral distinctions, the word 'hell,' as understood today, is not a happy translation." - Collier's Encyclopedia (1986, Vol. 12, p. 28)

"Much Confusion and misunderstanding has been caused through the early translators of the Bible persistently rendering the Hebrew Sheohl and the Greek Hades and Gehenna by the word hell. The simple transliteration of these words by the translators of the revised editions of the Bible has not sufficed to appreciably clear up this confusion and misconception." - The Encyclopedia Americana (1956, Vol. XIV, p. 81)

"The word ( sheol ) occurs often in the Psalms and in the book of Job to refer to the place to which all dead people go. It is represented as a dark place, in which there is no activity worthy of the name. There are no moral distinction there, so 'hell' ( KJV ) is not a suitable translation, since that suggests a contrast with 'heaven' as the dwelling-place of the righteous after death. In a sense, 'the grave' in a generic sense is a near equivalent, except that Sheol is more a mass grave in which all the dead dwell together . . . . The use of this particular imagery may have been considered suitable here [ in Jonah 2:2 ] in view of Jonah's imprisonment in the interior of the fish." - A Translators Handbook on the Book of Jonah, Brynmor F. Price and Eugene A. Nida, 1978, p 37​
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Special Counsel Interviews Biden Over Handling Of Classified Documents

Special Counsel Robert Hur interviewed President Joe Biden, who participated voluntarily, on Sunday and Monday over Biden’s handling of classified documents during his vice presidency.

Biden stored classified documents from his time as vice president and as senator at his home in Delaware and at the offices of the University of Pennsylvania’s Penn Biden Center. He stored them long after he had held the respected offices and before becoming president, prompting a special counsel to be appointed to probe for criminal conduct.

Biden Tells Americans To Book Their Own Flights Out Of Israel Hours After Airlines Announced Mass Cancellations

Major airlines began canceling their services out of Israel just hours before President Joe Biden told Americans remaining in the country to book a commercial flight if they want to leave after the terrorist organization Hamas invaded.

Biden advised Americans left within Israel Monday to book a commercial flight or utilize ground options if they wish to leave the country. As of Monday evening, American, Delta, United Airlines and Air France have all halted services in and out of Israel after the country declared war on Hamas, according to the Associated Press.

‘IT’S NOT A WAR… IT’S A MASSACRE’: Israeli Soldiers Show Journalists Aftermath of Hamas Terror


Israeli soldiers report finding the bodies of babies, some of them decapitated, in the ruins of a town ravaged by Hamas terrorists in their surprise attack on Saturday….

“It’s not a war,” Gen. Itai Veruv, head of the IDF’s Depth Command, told reporters. “It’s not a battlefield. You see the babies, the mothers, the fathers in their bedrooms, in their protection rooms, and how the terrorists kill them.”

California creates race-based missing persons alert system: 'Ebony alert'

I am against all forms of racism.
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Hamas Makes War on Israelis and Palestinians

Hamas Makes War on Israelis and Palestinians​


This article is written by Mona Charen who is Jewish, pro-Isreal, and conservative, old GOP. I think her view this one that should be considered by everyone who cares.

Growing backlash over Harvard students' pro-Palestine letter

The letter, authored by the Harvard Undergraduate Palestine Solidarity Committee, stated that students "hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all unfolding violence".
It was co-signed by 33 student groups.
Americans need to realize the garbage being taught to our children in school. It is Marxist style propaganda, selling victimhood to them while abandoning the moral principles are government was founded upon, the most important being that our rights come from God.

A critique of an explanation about iconography

Icons are more than mere decorations, and shouldn't really be treated as a painting or a picture to hang on a wall. Icons are a visual proclamation that the God who created the world became a man for our salvation, that he suffered and died for us, that he rose from the dead, and ascended into heaven taking our human nature with Him. Furthermore they testify to the fact that Christians can be transformed back to the image and likeness of God, and that indeed God dwells within Christians and shines forth in those who live according to His will. They proclaim the same message that the Gospels do. Hanging an icon in your home or your church makes a profound statement. While icons can be decorative, they are not decorations. A Bible can be beautifully printed, bound with the finest materials, and filled with beautiful word, but it would be a mistake to see it as a work of art rather than as a means of encountering God.


With that being said, I don't see a problem with giving icons to non-Orthodox people. It may draw them to Orthodoxy after all, but I would make sure that the person understands that it is not just a picture to you and that it should be treated with a certain degree of respect. Just as we would not toss the Bible on the floor or use it as a coaster on the table, an icon should be used as a reminder of what it represents. If your friend will not do that, I think it would be better to get them some other piece of art.

Hello all. I read this post from the sticky question section and I'd like to hear what you all have to say in response to my critique.

After reading this, I was reminded of David wanting to build a temple for God. The exchange is pretty interesting. David goes to God and says he wants to build a magnificent house for him. You can practically hear God's incredulity when he responds, "All the world is my footstool, but you want to build a house for me?"

David's fervour for God was evident, yet even way back then God was concerned about this fervour being expressed through some physical manifestation of humanity's own hands. And sure enough, they invariably made it about themselves. Jesus called this out when he criticized them for believing their offerings were more important than the altar and that the gold was more important than the sanctity of God inhabiting the temple.

Actually, Jesus said a lot about the physical vs the spiritual and usually in the context of the physical being a distraction from the spiritual, like the Pharisees criticizing the apostles for not washing their hands before eating. They got satisfaction from exploiting this physical, outward display of holiness precisely because it was observable to everyone.

He cautioned his followers to be wary of leaders who wear fancy clothing. The reason is because these people have a skewed sense of what is important; their desire to appear fashionable, wealthy, respectable, or cool, etc is evidence of this skewed perception of importance. A practical result of this is that their judgment will be skewed.

After returning from being sent out two by two, the apostles excitedly boasted to Jesus that even the demons were subject to them. Jesus follows up with a curious little admonition saying, "Do not rejoice that you have power over the devils, but rather that your name is written in the book of life."

They'd had a taste of the power and it had already started going to their head. Subtle, yet still, Jesus felt it worth nipping in the bud anyway.

At every turn, Jesus wanted us to understand that we need to stop making it about ourselves. He literally commands us to say, "I have only done what is my duty to do."

Now, look again at those sentences about iconography from the post I quoted. In particular, this one, "I would make sure that the person understands that it is not just a picture to you and that it should be treated with a certain degree of respect."

I mean, this person is essentially saying, "The thing I made isn't just a thing I made; it's a holy conduit to God and should be treated with the respect it deserves."

This sentence is also concerning:
"If your friend will not do that, I think it would be better to get them some other piece of art. "

Interpretation : "This thing I made is so important that you can't have one unless you're prepared to think it is as important as I do." I just don't think iconography is leading this person to a holy attitude about his relationship to God.

The insistence on treating these physical objects as though they have some kind of supernatural power is concerning in comparison to everything Jesus said about moving away from reliance on physical objects as signs of spirituality. I mean, exploitation of religious relics has made Christianity into a parody of itself where bread turns into the literal flesh DNA of Jesus inside the stomach (but turns back into bread if it is observed via any measuring instruments or is vomited back up) and where making a crucifix shape with your fingers scares the devil.

I think art is a great way to teach people about Jesus, but I understand comics are just a medium through which a message is communicated, the same as the pages of the bible.

The ink on paper isn't what's important. Even the words themselves aren't important. The message behind them is what matters. It would be the same thing with singing; if I had a great voice, it'd be right of me to use it to glorify Jesus, but I'm not gonna suggest that if people don't like my singing it's akin to sinning against God.

In conclusion, I'd say that iconography is just one more attempt at man making it about himself, i.e. "It deserves more respect than you're giving it!"

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