I initially thought Trump would have prevented the Horrible attacks in Israel

[perplexed]

I initially thought the horrible attacks in Israel would not have happened if Trump was president. But I cannot back that up at all I think I was brainwashed by Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager.

The Abraham peace accords basically have nothing to do with Hamas as far as I can tell.

 

[USincognito]

I initially thought the horrible attacks in Israel would not have happened if Trump was president. But I cannot back that up at all I think I was brainwashed by Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager.

The Abraham peace accords basically have nothing to do with Hamas as far as I can tell.

Correct. They were "peace accords" between nations that never once had been at war with each other.

 

[USincognito]

Ha'aretz lays the blame on Netanyahu.

Netanyahu’s recklessness has brought war upon Israel

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www.haaretz.com

 

[Fantine]

Trump is calculating how the war will help his numbers? Over a thousand deaths? Collateral damage to him.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Trump is calculating how the war will help his numbers? Over a thousand deaths? Collateral damage to him.

and what proof do you have of this?

 

[Billy Evmur]

I initially thought the horrible attacks in Israel would not have happened if Trump was president. But I cannot back that up at all I think I was brainwashed by Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager.

The Abraham peace accords basically have nothing to do with Hamas as far as I can tell.

As much as I like Trump I believe the Abrahamic accord can only bring war. God has always kept Isaac seperate from Ishmael. The more Israel has tried to intergrate with other nations has always brought on them persecution.

I see it the same as if Christians were to seek accord with Moslem ... can't happen.

 

[Fantine]

and what proof do you have of this?

I put a question mark...and I am going by his long track record of prioritizing himself above every other human being on earth.

 

[Fantine]

As much as I like Trump I believe the Abrahamic accord can only bring war. God has always kept Isaac seperate from Ishmael. The more Israel has tried to intergrate with other nations has always brought on them persecution.

I see it the same as if Christians were to seek accord with Moslem ... can't happen.

Read the Good Samaritan parable. And who is my Neighbor?

Love thy neighbor as thyself.

It's not God endorsing hatred and division.

 

[FireDragon76]

Ha'aretz lays the blame on Netanyahu.

Netanyahu’s recklessness has brought war upon Israel

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www.haaretz.com

Netenyahu and Likud have spent most of their time eroding anything resembling liberal democracy in Israel. I knew things were going bad when Arabic was removed as an official language in Israel, about a decade or so ago. That was basically a giant middle finger to the idea of peaceful coexistence in favor of ethnic cleansing.

 

[nightmares]

and what proof do you have of this?

None whatsoever

Blind hatred is what it is

 

[Fantine]

None whatsoever

Blind hatred is what it is

More like assumptions based on substantial prior evidence.

 

[Billy Evmur]

Read the Good Samaritan parable. And who is my Neighbor?

Love thy neighbor as thyself.

It's not God endorsing hatred and division.

if God were to endorse Hamas what would He be endorsing? The Palestinians have always been offered equal citizenship of the state of Israel, they would rather cut their throats than accept that.

 

[Fantine]

if God were to endorse Hamas what would He be endorsing? The Palestinians have always been offered equal citizenship of the state of Israel, they would rather cut their throats than accept that.

Equal citizenship? If you were debating this, your opponent would have hundreds of references--even thousands--to the contrary.

 

[Fantine]

I do not condone the attacks.

I do not condone the Israeli treatment of Palestinians over many years. I know a young Christian man who went to Israel about ten years ago to work with the Palestinians and who saw firsthand the terrible conditions in which they were forced to live. He worked with Israelis who opposed the persecution and subjugation of the Palestinians living there (which I would liken to Apartheid in S. Africa). Because he was offering humanitarian assistance to the Palestinians, the Israelis arrested him and then drove him to the Egyptian border (I believe it was Egypt) and told him he would never be allowed to return for the country.

I wrote an article about his visit. Because I had met with him and interviewed him and heard firsthand about the hours long checkpoints, the noise bombs that shattered windows in Palestinian homes, etc. I know in a personal way that Israel, and in particular the Netanyahu regime, has exacerbated the problem.

I also know that what will be unleashed against the Palestinian people, most of whom are not members of Hamas, who are good, decent people trying to survive, will be much, much worse than anything Hamas has done in the past weekend.

 

[dogs4thewin]

I do not condone the attacks.

I do not condone the Israeli treatment of Palestinians over many years. I know a young Christian man who went to Israel about ten years ago to work with the Palestinians and who saw firsthand the terrible conditions in which they were forced to live. He worked with Israelis who opposed the persecution and subjugation of the Palestinians living there (which I would liken to Apartheid in S. Africa). Because he was offering humanitarian assistance to the Palestinians, the Israelis arrested him and then drove him to the Egyptian border (I believe it was Egypt) and told him he would never be allowed to return for the country.

I wrote an article about his visit. Because I had met with him and interviewed him and heard firsthand about the hours long checkpoints, the noise bombs that shattered windows in Palestinian homes, etc. I know in a personal way that Israel, and in particular the Netanyahu regime, has exacerbated the problem.

I also know that what will be unleashed against the Palestinian people, most of whom are not members of Hamas, who are good, decent people trying to survive, will be much, much worse than anything Hamas has done in the past weekend.

that is the cold hard truth of war more civilians die than combatants largely because civilians usually have neither the weapons nor the protective equipment that combatants do.

 

[wing2000]

As much as I like Trump I believe the Abrahamic accord can only bring war. God has always kept Isaac seperate from Ishmael. The more Israel has tried to intergrate with other nations has always brought on them persecution.

Hamas and their Iranian sponsors would agree with you. Some analyst suspect the Hamas launched the attack, fearing they would be isolated if Saudi Arabia and Isreal continuted their discussions toward normalizing relations.

 

[Pommer]

I put a question mark...and I am going by his long track record of prioritizing himself above every other human being on earth.

I would love to watch Trump try to answer the “trolley problem” query.

 

[stevil]

Read the Good Samaritan parable. And who is my Neighbor?

Love thy neighbor as thyself.

It's not God endorsing hatred and division.

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.



He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

 

[FireDragon76]

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.



He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

That's not an endorsement of hatred.

 

[stevil]

That's not an endorsement of hatred.

What about division?