I've been sick for so long that I'm becoming discouraged. I know I need to lift up my sufferings for others (and I do). But, I'm becoming weak from battling all my health issues. Please pray I begin to improve and can do more to evangelize instead of being stuck at home. Thanks!

Today is Australia Day, the traditional time when we as a nation, yearly divide on whether our National Day should be on Jan 26th.
For some First Peoples in Australia, the date is marked as the beginning of the troubles that European arrival caused them, so they name it Invasion Day or Survival Day.
There is considerable anguish, mainly from the left that we should abolish the day or change the date. Problem being that we have no obvious day to replace it with.

So for non Australians , some history, Jan 26th is when the British governor of the new colony of New South Wales, raised a flag to proclaim British settlement.'
Note this was not the landing day, which occurred on Jan 18th. Nor is the first time the Brits claimed eastern Australia, that was in 1770 by Captain Cook. The claim made also did not include the western third of the current Australia, but it also included Norfolk Island and (they rarely like being reminded of this) New Zealand, which was not separated until 1841.

I can understand the anguish of Aboriginal Australians, and personally I could live with come sort of change, but am not sure that some of the protesters will be satiated no matter what is offered up and whatever is given will just move to the next demand.
So what are the options...
Make 18 Jan Survival Day or Aboriginal Day, as a public holiday and leave 26 Jan as is. (Invasions are marked on the day troops first land)
Celebrate Commonwealth of Australia coming into existence on Jan 1 1901, with an additional Public Holiday on Jan 2.
Celebrate opening of first Federal Parliament on 9 May, we could mark the day with balloons to celebrate all the political hot air.

Isaiah 5:11-12 ESV


Someone who rises early in the morning to run after strong drink, and who tarries late in the evening as wine inflames him, is mostly likely an alcoholic, someone who is addicted to being inebriated (drunk, intoxicated). But this is not exclusive to alcoholics. We can be intoxicated to many things in this world. Some people are intoxicated to drugs or to excessive food or to coffee or to being entertained continuously or to sexual immorality, etc.

For when people are intoxicated their lives are out of control. They are driven by whatever is captivating them, and common sense and good judgment usually “go out the window.” They become totally obsessed with self and self-pleasure, and so their addiction of choice takes over their lives and nothing else really matters. And they will hurt anyone who tries to stand in their way, for they totally lose all compassion and conscience about what they are doing to other people and to themselves.

The Bible calls “addiction” “slavery to sin.” And Jesus Christ died for us on that cross to deliver us from our slavery to sin. So not one of us has an excuse if we continue to be enslaved to sin and not to God and to his righteousness. And the Scriptures teach that if we continue to make sin our practice, and if obedience to our Lord is not what we practice, that we don’t know God, and he doesn’t know us, and we do not have eternal life in him regardless of what faith in Jesus we professed with our lips.

And when we have to have something non-essential to survive, outside of the realm of God and his kingdom, and so we will stomp on other people’s hearts to get what we want, this is also called idolatry. For the addiction of choice is the idol that we serve and not God. And again that is enslavement to sin because it is making other things our god, and we are bowing to and worshiping those other gods, too, by our undivided loyalties and obsessions with the god of choice.

And addicts are known to hide their sins, and to cover them up with lies, and if anyone else gets too close to the truth, they will take them out. For they are all about protecting their idols of choice to make certain that their idols will always be available to them. And they will use all kinds of trickery and mind games and such to try to throw off anyone who is getting too close to the truth. And they will vilify the righteous in order to make them look bad and to make themselves look good by comparison.

So, they have no fear of God before their eyes. And many professing Christians are right there still enslaved to sin, still worshipping their idols, and they do not regard the deeds of the Lord or see the work of his hands, for their minds are consumed with their idols (addiction) of choice, and really not much else matters. Yet, they may go through the motions of religious practice, and they may pretend that they are walking with the Lord, but if we are truly walking with the Lord, there will be evidence of it in our lives.

[Matt 7:21-23; Matt 24:9-14; Lu 9:23-26; Rom 1:18-32; Rom 2:6-8; Rom 6:1-23; Rom 8:1-14,24; Rom 12:1-2; Rom 13:11; 1 Co 6:9-10,19-20; 2 Co 5:10,15,21; 1 Co 1:18; 1 Co 15:1-2; 2 Tim 1:8-9; Heb 9:28; 1 Pet 1:5; Gal 5:16-21; Gal 6:7-8; Eph 2:8-10; Eph 4:17-32; Eph 5:3-6; Col 1:21-23; Col 3:5-17; 1 Pet 2:24; Tit 2:11-14; 1 Jn 1:5-9; 1 Jn 2:3-6,24-25; 1 Jn 3:4-10; Heb 3:6,14-15; Heb 10:23-31; Heb 12:1-2; Rev 21:8,27; Rev 22:14-15]

Isaiah 5:20-21 ESV


Now, in the modern market-driven “churches” of today here in America, since they are trying to attract the world to their gatherings, and so they don’t want to offend the people of the world, they have mostly all altered the gospel of Christ and have removed God’s righteous requirements for salvation from sin and for eternal life with God. And they have reduced “the gospel” to us just making some kind of profession of faith in Jesus, and then we are being told that all our sins are forgiven and heaven is now guaranteed us when we die, regardless of how we live on this earth.

So, what they are doing is promoting this diluted “gospel” as the truth, and they are calling the true gospel “the lie.” And in order to pull this off, they removed Scriptures from their full context, and they have twisted them to say what the Scriptures do not teach (in context). And so they are convincing the masses that true grace means God does it all and we do nothing – no repentance, no submission to Christ, and no obedience to our Lord. For they are calling that “works salvation.”

So they are demonizing the true gospel of grace by calling it “works salvation,” and their proof texts are, again, Scriptures taught outside their context and made to teach what they do not teach. And they are painting a picture of God’s true grace as forgiveness based on a mere profession of faith in Christ which then guarantees them heaven, but which makes no requirements for them to forsake their sins or to obey the Lord. And so they are definitely calling evil good and good evil.

And I believe this is one of the reasons we have so many professing Christians here in America who are still enslaved to sin, living for the sinful pleasures of the flesh, because they are being given carte blanche to continue in their sins under the guise of God’s grace and forgiveness. But what is God’s true grace? His grace, which is bringing us salvation, instructs (trains) us to renounce (say “No” to) ungodliness and fleshly lusts and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives (Titus 2:11-14).

And what did Jesus teach? He said that if anyone would come after him, he must deny self and take up his cross daily (daily die to sin and to self) and follow (obey) him. For, if we hold on to our old lives of living in sin and for self, we will lose them for eternity. But if for the sake of the name of Jesus we are crucified with him in death to sin and raised to walk in newness of life in him, and so we walk in obedience to his commands, then we have the hope of eternal life with God (Luke 9:23-26; cf. Romans 6:1-23).

Open Your Hearts

An Original Work / September 11, 2011

Open your hearts to Me.
Will you not receive me?
I’m your Lord and Savior, Jesus,
I am King of kings.
Listen to Me speaking to you.
Invite Me within.

Hasten to Me calling.
I’ll keep you from falling.
I am with you, and I will
Abide with you always.
Repent of your sins and
Worship Jesus Christ today.

Come and follow your Lord.
Obey all His teachings.
Witness to your neighbors,
And tell them of Jesus Christ.
Let them know that He provided
Their sin’s sacrifice.

He is your deliv’rer;
Rock of your salvation;
Cornerstone, rejected by men,
Mighty God is He.
He will give the only hope
Of life eternally.

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Hi everyone, you might want to check this out- it is Jesus Culture worship! It is the most amazing worship I have ever heard in my life! You can listen to all of their music free on YouTube, if you want to have a look the link is here:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jesus+culture+consumed

I'd rather remain an enigma actually. Lol. Joking but not. So I've been a Christian since 2015. I suppose you'd say I backslid for a few years. I had a third child during this time. But shortly after he turned one I ended the relationship with his father. Now I'm basically piecing myself back together mentally, emotionally, spiritually. The amount of condemnation I allowed myself to become weighed down by...staggering. It took me a long time to realize how it distorted my view of God.
I think this'll do, lol.

In another thread, I saw plenty of links that used Grace Evangelical Society (GES).

They appear to really love the Gospel of John and it seems their core belief is that John contains the same gospel as Paul's gospel, that salvation is also by faith alone apart from works of any kind (Romans 4:5)

I was curious about their beliefs and I found out the wikipedia link that states

As the representative of the GES in public debates, Dr. Wilkin has engaged Progressive Dispensationalist and former president of the Evangelical Theological Society, Darrell Bock, and the Calvinist apologist and writer James White.

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This is the first time I have encountered this term "Progressive Dispensationalism".

It appears to be the middle ground between Covenant Theology CT and Mid Acts dispensationalism MAD

Anyone in this sub forum would consider themselves one of this or know a lot about them?

How would you summarize their key doctrines and the differences between them and CT or MAD?

I was listening to this podcast by the Grace Evangelical society If a Man is Saved by Faith Alone, What is Happening in Matthew 25 With the Sheep and the Goats? – Grace Evangelical Society

Now I understand why and how some Christians believe that Matthew 24:13, "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.", saved there refers to only physical salvation, as in saved from dying physically during the Tribulation, and not eternal salvation.

To support that belief, they cross reference to Matthew 24:22 "And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."

So they reason that, since the elect there, by definition, represents those who are eternally saved by God, the saved in vs 22 must therefore represent something else other than eternal salvation, allowing them to believe that it therefore must be physical.

By holding to that doctrine, they are able to reconcile the sheep and goat judgement with their core doctrine that salvation is always by faith alone without works.

If I understand their reasoning correctly, here is their argument:

Premise 1: 100% of those unfaithful believers would have physically died during the Tribulation
Premise 2: Those who face the sheep and goat judgement after the Tribulation are 100% faithful believers
Conclusion: They are therefore deemed as sheep, by definition.

This argument seems tautological, true by definition.

My question is "Who then will be the goats in that judgement? Will those unfaithful believers who physically died, be resurrected to face that judgement as well, and thus they will be those goats?"

Any comments on their reasoning?

You see these folks creeping in, even in the “free grace” circles it is pervasive, these people will come in with this claim and teaching that sodomites can actually be saved despite what clear scripture says, and they will throw 1 Corinthians 6 out of context at you. But they completely ignore The reprobate doctrine is clearly described in Romans 1:18-32

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, evenhis eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

28 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

29 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

The word of God clearly says God “gave them up”, and “gave them over” because they didn’t want to retain God in their knowledge, how can people still come away thinking that these are potentially saved people?

If Sodomites are just good people who are unsaved and need the gospel, or are a little mixed up, then why does every time in the Bible when it talks about a sodomite they are committing the most wicked evil acts. Not one sodomite ever got saved in scripture.

Sodomites cannot be saved, word of God is clear that they got that way because they rejected the gospel, didn’t want to retain God in their knowledge so God gave them up unto vile affections, to do that which is not convenient.

Still people will falsely throw 1 Corinthians 6 at you where it says “abusers of themselves with mankind” to say “see the sodomite can be saved” but is that passage really saying that? No, this is not a clear verse and that would contradict the rest of scripture and Romans 1:18-32 the reprobate doctrine.

This doctrine of “sodomites can be saved” creeping in is found nowhere in scripture, it is completely unbiblical.

I have given descriptions of what seems reasonable to me, similar to the below, but has been consistently rejected by better and more educated minds than mine, but I still don't understand why. I'm hoping that my earlier renditions/applications just weren't clear enough. So I thought I would try again.

I had this discussion just last night, over the phone with my son. Then today it shows up for discussion with another poster, @jameslouise here:

Is Calvinism a heresy? (post #162 —not that that discussion is relevant)

I copy and edit here:

For whatever use you may make of it, the notion of static speed of light vs variable speed of light is kind of double-talk —at least, to my mind and what I understand about physics and cosmology. The question, if one is to believe in the Big Bang and Black Holes etc, is one of perspective. To our current position, what happened 7 billion years ago may seem to have been happening at a different rate from what is happening now. But to one (supposing there was one) back then, what was happening then was happening at the same rate as what is happening now seems to us now. Now, let's suppose that God's point of view was/is from before the Big Bang, or better, from outside the whole business. We can only conjecture that he sees changing rates because we attribute 'reality' to 'change'. But maybe his point of view is merely of fact, not change —of 'being', not 'becoming'.

Maybe describing this paralleling thought will help: If what we call the event horizon around a black hole (let's represent the concept of "black hole" as an ever-increasingly curved funnel (not a consistent rate cone), much like the sci-fi movies sometimes show them, or like they show the beginnings of a wormhole, but with the 'event horizon' at its rim). We can see the rim where the event horizon is the point-of-no-return border of light and matter —or so we think. Yet, can one being sucked toward that event horizon, know that he has neared it? Why would he not see what he thinks is the event horizon, "at a place farther into the funnel", as we would say from our current perspective? Are we not all from our current positions being attracted toward the nearest biggest (most influential) black hole (and for that matter, all black holes)? If reality (space-time) is shrinking toward that infinitesimal core, why do we assume stresses that would tear a spacecraft apart? From any one point of view, the spacecraft bends/stretches/compresses. But at each point along that bend/stretch/compression, the view is standard fact, and all else variance from it.

Admitting my ignorance, the only answers I can draw are that the science community is inconsistent, at least in their descriptions, and that God is not us, and that we don't know very much. I also grant the possibility that my problem is mostly due to the fact that I just don't understand what I read from the scientific community.

Anyhow, I would appreciate your input.

Fists flew and tensions ran high in East County Wednesday night during dueling protests over transgender policy at the Santee YMCA.

The debate stemmed from a teenage girl's address to the Santee City Council during a Jan. 11 meeting in which she detailed an interaction she said she had with a transgender woman in the locker room.

She said she was startled by the transgender woman changing in the women's locker room.

“I ran into a bathroom stall to change as quickly as I could, organizing my thoughts to share with people at the front desk,” 17-year-old Rebecca Phillips told the council.

Phillips' story set off an emotion-packed debate that led up to Wednesday's protest. One side of demonstrators protested in the name of women's and girls' privacy rights, while the other side claimed anti-trans legislation is rooted in bigotry.

An NBC 7 camera crew captured a brief fight during the protest.

Dumb! Just plain dumb.

The Catholic Church teaches that the sacraments are more than just symbols; they are actual means of grace through which God's love and presence are made manifest in the lives of believers. The sacraments are not just symbolic representations of spiritual realities, but actual channels of God's grace and power.

A critique of the idea that the sacraments have only symbolic significance would argue that this view reduces the sacraments to mere human constructs and removes the transformative power of God from the equation. It fails to acknowledge the active role of God in the sacraments and the real change they can bring in the lives of believers.

Furthermore, a symbolic-only view of the sacraments would also imply that the sacraments are not necessary for salvation and that it is possible to have a meaningful relationship with God without them. This is contradictory to the Catholic Church's teaching that the sacraments are necessary for salvation and that they are a means of grace that helps believers to grow in their faith and relationship with God.

Finally, a symbolic-only view of the sacraments would also fail to take into account the objective nature of the sacraments. The sacraments are not dependent on the subjective experience of the individual receiving them; they are effective regardless of the disposition of the person receiving them.

In summary, a Catholic critique of the idea that the sacraments have only symbolic significance would argue that this view undermines the actual power of God in the sacraments, the necessity of them for salvation and the objective nature of the sacraments.

This is for the encouragement of the UR camp . Hebrews 5:11-6:2 “Concerning this we have an abundance of things to say, and it is difficult to explain since you have become lethargic as listeners For indeed though by this time you ought to be teachers, you again have need of someone to teach you the most elementary principles of God’s oracles, and have come to require milk, not solid food. For everyone who feeds on milk is without experience in the word of righteousness, since he is an infant; But solid food is for full -grown men, whose sensibilities have been trained by use to discern both good and evil. Therefore, departing from the elementary message about the Anointed, let us press onward to full maturity, not establishing yet again the foundation: of turning the heart away from dead observances, and of faithfulness toward God; Instruction regarding baptism, as well as the laying-on of hands, resurrection of the dead, and the judgement of the age.” Sometimes it drives me nuts that so many people do not understand what Jesus did on the cross , no matter how many times you show them from scripture they just don’t understand. Then I was reading this verse above and I was wondering if the reason they don’t get it is because we in the UR camp are munching down on a T-bone steak and they are sipping on milk and are happy with the milk and don’t even realize that there is meat they think the milk is it. If you don’t get the resurrection of the dead, and the judgement of the age correct which is milk how are they ever going to understand the whole of what God is doing.I have even been told your overstating Gods love , like that’s possible, how can you go above infinite? Can you you infinite plus one? If you don’t understand that God is infinite love and infinite power then the whole idea of God loving the world and his power to rescue His whole creation is nonsense. It’s like when we try to show them they think , how is that steak going to fit in my sippy cup, they just don’t understand God yet they are not ready for steak they don’t even have the milk thing correct and we wonder why they don’t see it. I wonder if they have been blinded by the god of this world, because he likes it when we think God is weak and can’t overcome satan’s plan to usurp his Gods plan.

Hi everyone, I'm new and I'm super delighted to join this platform. I'm really happy.

I'm a blog writer, I don't have friends but I hope to make many here.

Oh and btw.. here's a Christian article I wrote...I'd like really like your opinions and views.

You could check it out here: What Does Baptism of the Holy Spirit Really Mean? - The Enlightened Mind

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Been thinking about creating this discussion for a little while. Not sure if it will do any good, but IMO this should be what the Bishops should be discussing at the upcoming Synod. Anyway here are my suggestions:

1) Life long Religious education - I have no idea why Catholic Churches stop at Confirmation. It makes absolutely no sense to me. The Protestants by far outclass us here (no pun intended.

2) Revivals - When I was Pentecostal, periodically we would have a traveling preacher visit our church for about a week, and we would have services every night for that week. As a Pentecostal they were very beneficial to growing the church and building the moral of the church. Down here in our diocese, we do have the occasional "retreat" which is similar and are usually only for a night or three; but we don't have them enough IMO, once every few years. I would like to see this grow.

3) Praise worship - this we don't do. We do have liturgical worship (the mass) which is the summit of our spiritual life, and I'm not calling for this to be replaced. What I'm asking for is having services (maybe tied into the revivals) where Catholics can let their hair down and praise God in song and prayer.

Anyway these are just a few. What would be your suggestions?

Pakistan is close to having the same kind of collapse that Sri Lanka had last year, that their trade deficit is catching up with them and they are basically going broke and that will lead to various kinds of economic, and social & political upheaval. This of course is much more significant since than what happened to Sri Lanka because, Pakistan's population is the 5th largest in the world, 226 million compared to 21 million, it has a large standing army and is a nuclear power!


Power outage plunges Pakistan into darkness | CNN.




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I have been having a pressure headache, especially when I lay down. I can feel pulsating and pain all through the night. The pain is less when I wake up and start moving around, but I can still feel some mild pressure. I don’t know what’s causing this. I ask for prayer to be healed of this problem. I believe in the healing power of Jesus!

God bless you!

The success—and mushrooming popularity—of these drugs brings us to a crossroads. We can make bigger bodies smaller with them, but does that mean we should? They promise to help people whose weight poses a health risk. And by shedding more light on what drives obesity, they could also chip away at harmful stereotypes that being overweight is simply a personal failing. At the same time, framing fatness as a disease to be done away with could lead to even greater stigma—as well as turbocharging society’s obsession with thinness.

The activists fear that fat people may feel pressured to take these medications in order to access the same rights as their non-fat counterparts, rather than out of any desire to improve their health. “Is it really about health improvement when a person is experiencing daily weight stigma and feeling shamed and blamed and is looking for a solution to decrease the influence of that in their life?” says Sarah Nutter, a psychologist at the University of Victoria in Canada who specializes in weight stigma and body image.

To go through life in a fat body means you are less likely to be hired for a job and will be paid less than non-fat people. The effects of weight discrimination—which can include poorer medical treatment, loneliness, psychological distress, and increased stress—may actually be cutting short the lives of fat people.

Deciding whether to take the drugs becomes a “devil’s choice,” says Osborn. “Assert that I have the right to be as I am right now—or exchange that right for significantly more rights and privileges in the culture.” The fat acceptance movement instead pushes for fat people to be afforded the same rights as everybody else, regardless of size.




Based on the tone of the article, it would seem as if there are people wanting it both ways here.

For a long time, some have suggested that obesity is out of a person's control and can't be prevented or corrected through lifestyle choices alone, some have even gone further and categorized it as a mental disorder or brain disease. (including one of the doctors selected to run the new dietary guidelines committee)


Now they've introduced medicines that seem to address some of that without relying solely on the person's own will power (which you'd think would be considered a big win), and they're seemingly taking issue with that out of fear that "fat people may feel pressured to take the new drugs". It would seem as if certain folks are unwilling to entertain any plan other than "pretend it's okay to be 100+ pounds overweight, and have everyone else put on blinders and pretend people can be healthy at any size" and "everyone else has to accept me just the way I am and no changes of any kind should be required on my part"

I'm a huge animal lover. I must even confess that I probably love animals more than I do most people.
I love cats, dogs, just about anything cute and furry.

But I once heard that all it would take is about 30 billion dollars a year and we'd end world hunger but americans
alone spend 30 billion a year on pet food (dog/cat).

So we are essentially choosing to take care of dogs and cats more than our fellow human beings.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on this? Do you think God would be displeased that we care more and spend more money
on our own dogs and cats than we do for hungry and dying human beings?

Also, my part time pastor has 2 cats and spends more time with them than he does with his actual congregation because
he spends 0 time with us. He's not a bad guy. I do like him still, and I realize he's just part-time cuz that's all the church
can afford to pay him but I find it odd that he actually spends more time, energy, and money on his cats than he does his
own sheep at church. Is this concerning?

Firstly I would like to ask about dietary restrictions. Besides fasting is there any dietary restriction such as pork or shellfish? The reason why I ask is because I seen passages from both Old and New Testament condemning both. I understand that some Oriental Orthodox Church restrict diet but I'm pretty sure outside of that group there are none. The reason I'm mostly curious is because I see some say that it's only for the Jews but The people in the Old Testament may have been ethnically Jewish but their religion was Christianity. Judaism came out of Christianity as a rejection of our Lord Christ who is the second person of the Holy Trinity and has been there since he helped create the universe. To say otherwise seems to be a way of accepting the heresy of adoptionism then again I'm a very stupid man. Also I kind of wonder about watering down wine which is the blood of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, who was made His Humanity one with His Divinity without mixture nor mingling, nor confusion ( see Colossians 2:9) Again sorry for all the dumb questions I'm not very smart man.

Another evidence for an old Earth is the Grand Canyon Supergroup, which is the layers of rock circled in red in the picture below. This is a set of rock thousands of feet thick at the bottom of the Grand Canyon that has tilted. These tilted layers show every indication of having been deposited over an extended period. Notice also that there are two blocks, with the layers of one block matching the adjacent block, except with an offset. It is obvious that these layers were once continuous across the two blocks. But as continental plates collided, the entire area squished together and uplifted. The tilted layers shown below broke into separate blocks and tilted.

Before the layers tilted, additional sediments had piled up above the Grand Canyon Supergroup rocks. But erosion wiped away the upper rocks including the extension of these layers beyond the surviving rocks. The upper layers continued to erode until the surface dropped down to the level known as The Great Unconformity (marked with a blue line below). Most of the rocks below The Great Unconformity are metamorphic rocks that have been transformed by intense heat and pressure to look quite different from the original rocks. But those tilted layers of the Grand Canyon Supergroup are down there also, still basically in their original state.

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Years later, the Colorado River changed path and carved out the Grand Canyon, exposing the Grand Canyon Supergroup once again. All of that took millions of years. There is no way around it. It must have taken millions of years.

The layers in the Grand Canyon Supergroup have fossils of single-celled lifeforms piled together to form stromatolite fossils. But there are no fossils with skeletal parts down here. Fossils with skeletons end up above the Great Unconformity line, and single-cell colonies like this end up below that line.

Above these supergroup rocks we find multiple layers, each with their own story. The overall story is illustrated quite elegantly in the beautiful book, The Grand Canyon: Monument to an Ancient Earth. In these layers we find buried sandstones from ancient beaches, shale from clay that had been deposited in shallow waters, and limestone from shells deposited in deeper water. We find buried sand dunes, buried nests, and buried footprints. You can read about all this in that easily understood book.

Each such layer is unexpected by creationism. Each requires an ad hoc explanation. And yes, you can propose an ad hoc explanation for each, but when you multiply the probabilities of each unlikely explanation together, your young Earth creationism beomes very improbable.

Excerpted from Billions of Angels Did It! at my website.
1/25/2023 Corrected per post below.

This question is about losing control/improperly storing classified material and removing it without proper authorization. Please refrain from adding additional charges such as espionage or treason to list. Also, for the purposes of this discussion, intention has no bearing on the base level punishment. Giving the material back has no bearing on the base level punishment. No matter how much you want to believe that should/could be taken into account, it will not be, so don't bother including it into your debate.

This is one of those things that used to be called a fear mongering conspiracy theory et al when it was being predicted.

Concerns raised over new 'transage' condition as social media account goes viral

Transage Activists Now Claim "Age Is A Social Construct," Just Like We Predicted Would Happen

Philippians 4:8-9 ESV


A long time ago my husband and I used to watch a lot of movies. We had grown up watching movies as children, and we continued the practice into our adult lives. Now back when we were children movies were usually only in the theatre or you could maybe get one a week on television, so not at all as it is today. And we didn’t really get into watching many movies probably until about 1988 when we discovered a VCR for the first time.

And at that time in my life I was going through menopause and my emotions were all over the place, and I had all sorts of things coming against me, and finally I caved to my circumstances, I let them get the best of me, and I yielded to the enemy of my soul on and off over a span of maybe seven years. And every time I tried to get back on track the enemy was slam dunking me and then I would cave again. Not pretty, I know.

But by the grace of God, the Lord brought me back, he revived my heart, and now I was back following him with my life and not caving to the enemy of my soul whose will it was to have me. And again I was walking in fellowship with my Lord, seeking his face, and following his will. And then, in the year 2004, the Lord called me to this present ministry, and that is when I got the most serious about following the Lord than ever before.

The Lord had been making a lot of changes in my life, and so I was backing away from many things I had allowed in my life during that time of moral failure, and I knew that most movies had to no longer be a part of my life, and I had really backed away from most of them. But then in 2008 I was encouraged to suggest to my husband that we examine our movies in light of this passage of Scripture in Philippians 4:8-9. And he agreed.

We had a collection of movies from over the years, so we pulled them all out, and one by one we examined their content in light of this passage, and I think when we finished that 2 movies remained. We literally threw all the rest of them in the trash. And I am not talking about filthy movies here, but family friendly entertainment mostly. When we really began to examine the content of these movies against this Scripture, they didn’t pass the test.

Why Tell You This?

So, why am I telling you all this? It is because Satan is a deceiver, and he deceives our minds into thinking things are good when they are not good. For a large portion of what we discovered in these movies that caused us to throw them out came as a surprise to us. And that is because the questionable content was hidden and disguised as something good and/or innocent. And so where we had seen them as good, they were not good.

For example, I grew up watching Shirley Temple movies on television and I just adored Shirley Temple. I love music, and she sang and she tap danced, and that is mostly what I was drawn to. But there was an underlying theme in most all of her movies. She usually played the role of a child who was being mistreated in some way, from what I recall, so she became rebellious, and she lied, and she did things she shouldn’t have done, and sometimes there were adults who helped her to be sneaky and underhanded.

But in the end she came out as the hero because she had conquered those in authority over her with her sneaky and underhanded schemes. And so these movies were glorifying and giving a stamp of approval on children being rebellious against those in authority over them and on them using trickery and lying and underhanded schemes in order to circumvent the authority that was over them. And that does not agree with this passage.

So, the encouragement here is that if we are going to apply this passage of Scripture to our lives, in truth, then we should be willing and ready to let the Holy Spirit walk with us through this passage, letting him examine our hearts and lives, and letting him point out to us where we are not doing what this says to do. And then we must be willing to do what he says, and to give up anything he says to give up that is opposed to this Scripture.

For, what we are taught in the Scriptures should become a reality in our everyday lives. And any of us can be deceived, especially if that deception happened early on in our lives and so we were blinded to it. So, if we are going to put into practice the truth of the Scriptures which are for us to obey, then we really need to open up our minds and hearts to letting the Holy Spirit reveal to us where we are deceived and where we need to change. And then we will be thinking on the right things.

[Matt 7:21-23; Matt 24:9-14; Lu 9:23-26; Rom 1:18-32; Rom 2:6-8; Rom 6:1-23; Rom 8:1-14,24; Rom 12:1-2; Rom 13:11; 1 Co 6:9-10,19-20; 2 Co 5:10,15,21; 1 Co 1:18; 1 Co 15:1-2; 2 Tim 1:8-9; Heb 9:28; 1 Pet 1:5; Gal 5:16-21; Gal 6:7-8; Eph 2:8-10; Eph 4:17-32; Eph 5:3-6; Col 1:21-23; Col 3:5-17; 1 Pet 2:24; Tit 2:11-14; 1 Jn 1:5-9; 1 Jn 2:3-6,24-25; 1 Jn 3:4-10; Heb 3:6,14-15; Heb 10:23-31; Heb 12:1-2; Rev 21:8,27; Rev 22:14-15]

Have Thine Own Way, Lord

Words by Adelaide A. Pollard, 1907
Music by George C. Stebbins, 1907

Have Thine own way, Lord! Have Thine own way!
Thou art the potter, I am the clay.
Mold me and make me after Thy will,
While I am waiting, yielded and still.

Have Thine own way, Lord! Have Thine own way!
Search me and try me, Master, today!
Whiter than snow, Lord, wash me just now,
As in Thy presence humbly I bow.

Have Thine own way, Lord! Have Thine own way!
Wounded and weary, help me I pray!
Power, all power, surely is Thine!
Touch me and heal me, Savior divine!

Have Thine own way, Lord! Have Thine own way!
Hold o'er my being absolute sway.
Fill with Thy Spirit till all shall see
Christ only, always, living in me!

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