I have learned a new type of dispensationalism: Progressive dispy

[Guojing]

In another thread, I saw plenty of links that used Grace Evangelical Society (GES).

They appear to really love the Gospel of John and it seems their core belief is that John contains the same gospel as Paul's gospel, that salvation is also by faith alone apart from works of any kind (Romans 4:5)

I was curious about their beliefs and I found out the wikipedia link that states

Grace Evangelical Society - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

As the representative of the GES in public debates, Dr. Wilkin has engaged Progressive Dispensationalist and former president of the Evangelical Theological Society, Darrell Bock, and the Calvinist apologist and writer James White.

This is the first time I have encountered this term "Progressive Dispensationalism".

It appears to be the middle ground between Covenant Theology CT and Mid Acts dispensationalism MAD

Anyone in this sub forum would consider themselves one of this or know a lot about them?

How would you summarize their key doctrines and the differences between them and CT or MAD?

 

[d taylor]

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What is free grace theology
What Is Free Grace Theology? – Grace Evangelical Society

Their beliefs
Affirmations of Belief – Grace Evangelical Society


29.“The Difference Between Dispensationalism and Progressive Dispensationalism”

 

[Guojing]

What is free grace theology
What Is Free Grace Theology? – Grace Evangelical Society

Their beliefs
Affirmations of Belief – Grace Evangelical Society


29.“The Difference Between Dispensationalism and Progressive Dispensationalism”

Welcome d taylor.

I used the term Acts 2 dispy to you in the past. After that, in that thread about assurance of salvation, Assurance of Salvation according to John..., I realized it is not a very clear and accurate statement of what you believed in.

Would it be more accurate now to classify you as a progressive dispensationalist instead?

 

[d taylor]

Welcome d taylor.

I used the term Acts 2 dispy to you in the past. After that, in that thread about assurance of salvation, Assurance of Salvation according to John..., I realized it is not a very clear and accurate statement of what you believed in.

Would it be more accurate now to classify you as a progressive dispensationalist instead?

For me no, as i do not know what progressive dispensationalism actually believe.

 

[d taylor]

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What Is Ultra Dispensationalism? – Grace Evangelical Society

The Danger of Dispensational Prophecy – Grace Evangelical Society

A Better Attitude Towards Prophecy – Grace Evangelical Society

 

[Guojing]

For me no, as i do not know what progressive dispensationalism actually believe.

But you do accept that GES has engaged Dr Brock as their representative in public debates?

So if Brock is a known progressive dispensationalist, wouldn't that imply GES has that as their core doctrine as well?

 

[d taylor]

But you do accept that GES has engaged Dr Brock as their representative in public debates?

So if Brock is a known progressive dispensationalist, wouldn't that imply GES has that as their core doctrine as well?

Do not know who that is so again, labeling myself as a certain type of dispensation type of believer has not been a focus of mine.

So i will leave it at that, If you want you can contact Grace Evangelical Society and ask them what do they follow concerning dispensation's ges@faithalone.org

 

[Guojing]

Do not know who that is so again, labeling myself as a certain type of dispensation type of believer has not been a focus of mine.

So i will leave it at that, If you want you can contact Grace Evangelical Society and ask them what do they follow concerning dispensation's ges@faithalone.org

Interesting that you quote extensively from GES and yet unaware of and uninterested in the role of Brock in that society?

Alright then, thanks for sharing.

 

[Guojing]

So i will leave it at that, If you want you can contact Grace Evangelical Society and ask them what do they follow concerning dispensation's ges@faithalone.org

I did send an email to them asking about their latest podcast about sheep and goats judgement, which I made a thread here

The sheep and goat judgment of Matthew 25: The Progressive Dispensationalist view

I was listening to this podcast by the Grace Evangelical society If a Man is Saved by Faith Alone, What is Happening in Matthew 25 With the Sheep and the Goats? – Grace Evangelical Society Now I understand why and how some Christians believe that Matthew 24:13, "But he that shall endure unto...

www.christianforums.com

Let's see how they will respond.

 

[d taylor]

I have never heard of the name Brock, The names i am familiar with from Grace Evangelical society: Zane Hodges (decesed) Bob Wilkin, Shawn Lazar, Ken Yates

 

[Guojing]

I have never heard of the name Brock, The names i am familiar with from Grace Evangelical society: Zane Hodges (decesed) Bob Wilkin, Shawn Lazar, Ken Yates

Yes, this last sentence in wiki does not seem to have a proper reference but I will wait and see whether it can be verified by others

As the representative of the GES in public debates, Dr. Wilkin has engaged Progressive Dispensationalist and former president of the Evangelical Theological Society, Darrell Bock, and the Calvinist apologist and writer James White.

But Bob Wilkin has definitely claimed that he is a dispensationalist, and we know he is neither Acts 28 nor mid Acts.

So by elimination, it appears to be progressive dispy since many of his views are similar to Brock.

 

[Dan Perez]

In another thread, I saw plenty of links that used Grace Evangelical Society (GES).

They appear to really love the Gospel of John and it seems their core belief is that John contains the same gospel as Paul's gospel, that salvation is also by faith alone apart from works of any kind (Romans 4:5)

I was curious about their beliefs and I found out the wikipedia link that states

Grace Evangelical Society - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This is the first time I have encountered this term "Progressive Dispensationalism".

It appears to be the middle ground between Covenant Theology CT and Mid Acts dispensationalism MAD

Anyone in this sub forum would consider themselves one of this or know a lot about them?

How would you summarize their key doctrines and the differences between them and CT or MAD?

I , just googled those 2 words and you will find a diagram as to went it appeared , nothing NEW !!

dan p

 

[Guojing]

I , just googled those 2 words and you will find a diagram as to went it appeared , nothing NEW !!

dan p

which diagram is that?

 

[Dan Perez]

which diagram is that?

I looked to see if I could find it again and did not find it !

Progressive Dispensationanlism is an attempt to walk a middle path between Traditional Dispensationalism and Covenant Theology .

dan p