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Revelation 19/Armageddon is NOT the second coming.

I know that it has been traditionally taught that it is by virtually all eschatalogical positions for hundreds if not thousands of years, but it simply does not fit the rest of the bible for how the second coming of Christ is said to go.

Let's examine some scripture regarding the Day of the Lord/Second Coming, as this realization I've been pouring over for months has reshaped my eschatology from believing as pretrib and most pre-wrath do of a rapture and then a second coming at Revelation 19, to a single second coming like post-trib, but not at Revelation 19.

First let's look at the Revelation 19 passage
1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great harlot, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.
First I want to point out that there are people in heaven, MUCH people in heaven, they are not identified as souls but people. First off even if they are souls, this explicitly shatters any doctrine of soul sleep, or that people don't go to heaven at all, and just get resurrected on the New Earth. They are people, they are conscious and they are praising God. This is also after the destruction of Babylon, which is after the 7th bowl, but before the supposed second coming that most people put the second coming at.

3 And again they said, Alleluia And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.
4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.
in previous passages such as Revelation 7, the saints praised not only God that sat on the throne (God the Father), but also the Lamb (Jesus), they were 2 distinct people and both addressed. Here only 1 is addressed. I propose it is because the Lamb is already on Earth, cleaning house.

5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.
6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
So here they refer to the Lamb, but they aren't addressing Him directly or worshipping Him. It's like the Elephant NOT in the room. We will also get to this Marriage Supper of the Lamb. As if the Lamb is not in Heaven at this time, as I do not believe He is during this passage, then the Marriage Supper of the Lamb is NOT some extravagant feast in heaven as is commonly taught by pretrib. But no description of feasting is given in scripture...... until later, and you'll see, its not what you have been taught most likely.

11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
First, we finally see the Lamb AFTER heaven opened, and where was John? He was in heaven. He was not on Earth looking up at the heavens opening up and watching Jesus ride Pegasus down from Heaven. He was in Heaven watching the celebration of Babylon's destruction and the worship of God that sat on the Throne. I believe what John saw, was Jesus already on Earth.

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
His vesture is already dipped in blood, we will show where this blood came from in another passage regarding the second coming, and a hint, no it is NOT symbolic of the blood He shed for us, no it is NOT the blood of the tribulation saints magically transferred to His robe. The bible is explicit of who's blood it is and where it came from and why it is on His robe (I'll show it from Isaiah 63)

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Again, explicitly thrashing the idea that saints do not go to heaven at any point but just soul sleep. These are the saints, the bride of Christ, described in the same way as previously in fine white linen. These are also saints in bodies, riding horses. Not souls or spirits. They're now on Earth again, they WERE in heaven.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
Here we address what the marriage supper of the lamb is, it is a slaughter at Armageddon, and the feasting is by the carrion birds.

19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
The second coming of Jesus is on a day nobody knows, not even Jesus Himself (Mark 13:32), only God the Father, here Antichrist has an army gathered ready to meet Jesus. This is not an unknown day, this is something they prepared for.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.


So there is the supposed second coming passage. Now let's look at where the second coming is described elsewhere in the bible, starting with Acts 1
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey.
He went up in a cloud, He will come on a cloud, not a horse.

Matthew 24
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
So, it will be like lightning, like the radiance of the sun going east to west, but the sun and moon will be darkened, and the stars will fall., He'll come in the clouds, and HE will send the angels with a trumpet (not angels blowing trumpets). NONE of these match Revelation 19. None at all.
1. a horse not a cloud
2. the earth dwellers are prepared to fight Him not mourning
3. no trumpet
4. no celestial signs of the sun moon and stars
5. the only thing that kind of matches is that the saints are gathered to follow Him, however they were already just in Heaven now on Earth.

But let's keep going, let's look at where Jesus drew this passage of Matthew 24 from, Zechariah

Zechariah 9
14 And the Lord shall be seen over them, and his arrow shall go forth as the lightning: and the Lord God shall blow the trumpet, and shall go with whirlwinds of the south.
15 The Lord of hosts shall defend them; and they shall devour, and subdue with sling stones; and they shall drink, and make a noise as through wine; and they shall be filled like bowls, and as the corners of the altar.
16 And the Lord their God shall save them in that day as the flock of his people: for they shall be as the stones of a crown, lifted up as an ensign upon his land.
Here's the details that are like Matthew 24, that God will be seen over them (and Jesus is referring to Himself as God in the Olivet discourse, explicitly using Zechariah 9, doing things that are attributed to the Lord God), that His coming is like lightning, that Jesus will blow a trumpet, and that His people will be gathered, Paul in 1 Thessalonians 4 also refers to this, and the lifting up of God's people into the sky is coming from Zechariah 9 lifting His people up to display like an Ensign over His land (an Ensign is a kind of flag that is displayed above a ship to show its nationality, so Jesus is lifting up His people into the sky, to display them to people on the Earth as "these are MY people", think of Revelation 3:9, this is how the synagogue of Satan worships at Philadelphia's feet (not worshiping the church of Philadelphia, but worshiping below the feet of the Church gathered with Jesus, they are worshiping Jesus).

But here's a thing that conflicts with Revelation 19. Armageddon is NORTH of the Mount of Olives.
Zechariah 9 says He goes south.

I'll continue this with more passages from Isaiah next post
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The Dunning-Kruger effect

The Dunning-Kruger effect effect occurs when a person's lack of knowledge and skills in a certain area causes them to overestimate their own competence. By contrast, this effect also causes those who excel in a given area to think the task is simple for everyone and underestimate their relative abilities as well.

My son has his degree in computer engineering. Back in High School he was talking the advanced classes and was pretty close to the people in those classes. They were very intelligent but there was a number of them that dropped out and did not go onto college. So often my son and I talk about the people who took advantage of what they had, compared to the people who end up at McDonalds.

Today he came up with a name for it: Dunning-Kruger effect. This explains how people who put zero work into understanding a subject - somehow in someway think they know more about it than the people with a Phd. I esp see this in astro physics and in areas where things have mathematical evidence and proof.
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US Consumer Confidence Jumps to a Two Year High

Another good sign for the US economy...decreased inflation and continued hiring are credited with boosting American's confidence:

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. consumer confidence shot to the highest level in two years this month as inflationary pressures eased and the American economy continued to show resilience in the face of dramatically higher interest rates.

The Conference Board, a business research group, said its consumer confidence index rose to 117 in July from a revised 110.1 in June. The gauge beat the 110.5 that economists had expected and was the highest since July 2021.








by Taboola

  • Poll
The evidence of small miracles ..

Which of these have you heard of/ know something about?

  • The changing statue of limpias

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  • The white doves at the feet of the pilgrim virgin

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  • The hospital verified inedia of Alexandrina da Costa.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The forensically verified bleeding statue of Cochabamba

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The filmed and prophesied stigmata of Katya rivas

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The continuous writings of Katya rivas in languages she didn’t understand!

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The “ Slovakian” Lourdes.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The finding of Mary’s house at Ephesus.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The priests that survived the Hiroshima epicentre.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Never heard of any of them!

    Votes: 1 100.0%

I’m fascinated by the evidence of miracles, going beyond the most famous.

. I’ve searched the world to collect books on them.
Many are old, for example the books on limpias are 1917-1920 era
The books on the white doves of the pilgrim virgin are 1949-50

I’m curious .. how many have even heard of these now? I just give few examples.

fill in the poll!

Musk 'x' rated! Only joking, Elon changes Twtter name to 'X'.


So putting over a decade of branding in the bin, what can go wrong. No more tweeting, now you will be 'X'ing......

You don't have to fall or stumble into sin

SCRIPTURE: 'Now, to the one with enough power to prevent you from stumbling into sin and bring you faultless before his glorious presence to stand before him with ecstatic delight, to the only God our Savior, through our Lord Jesus Christ, be endless glory and majesty, great power and authority—from before he created time, now, and throughout all the ages of eternity. Amen! ' - Jude (Judah) 1:24-25

LESSON: Only God has the power to keep us from falling/stumbling into sin. The good thing is that He is not only able but WILLING! However, we have to DECIDE to do as we are told to do. The Lord said to Abraham: "I am the Almighty God; walk before me and be thou perfect". – Genesis 17.1. The Lord Jesus said to the Young Rich Ruler: “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” – Matthew 19:21. Both instructions are the same. It means: "Remove distractions from your life and make ME your goal!", which may mean letting go of things that are not very easy. That is why we need His power! "For God is working in you, giving you the desire and the POWER to do what pleases him" - Philippians 2.13.

PRAYER: Lord, Help me to let go and let You lead!

fruit and truth

1 TIMOTHY 6
提莫太前书 6


20 O Timothy, guard the deposit entrusted to you. Avoid the irreverent babble and contradictions of what is falsely called “knowledge,” 21 for by professing it some have swerved from the faith.
20 提摩太阿,你要保守所托付你的,躲避世俗的虚谈,和那敌真道似是而非的学问。21 已经有人自称有这学问、就偏离了真道。愿恩惠常与你们同在。

GUARDING THE DEPOSIT
保管存款


When I was young, I went to buy bottles of pop from our newspaper shop, i received something back if I kept them unbroken, so My mother and Father made sure I was careful with these bottles, but being me, I sometimes broke them.
当我小的时候,我去我们的报纸店买瓶装汽水,如果我保持瓶子完好无损,我就会得到一些回报,所以我的父母要确保我小心使用这些瓶子,但由于我的缘故,有时我会打破它们。

Timothy is Paul's protégé, he is the one earmarked by Paul to take over as leader of the churches. He has been trained by Paul, he has had time and effort invested into Him.
提摩太是保罗的门徒,他是保罗指定接任教会领袖的人。他受过保罗的训练,他在他身上投入了时间和精力。

Paul has deposited the knowledge of the truth of Jesus Christ into his heart, throughout these two letters of 1 &2 Timothy, he pleads with his protégé to keep strong and to keep the true gospel safe.
保罗已经把耶稣基督的真理知识存于他的心里,通过提摩太前书和后书的这两封信,他恳求门徒信徒要坚固,保守真福音的平安。

Paul knows more than most that there were many false teachers who were trying to steal the gospel.
保罗比大多数人都知道,有许多假师傅想要窃取福音。

The words of Paul echo down to us, each generation has been entrusted with the gospel and NOW it is their responsibility to deposit it with the next.
保罗的话在我们心中回响,每一代人都被托付福音,现在他们有责任将福音传给下一代。

Let me ask you this:
让我这样问你:

How much depositing of the gospel have you done to the next generation?
你们为下一代存了多少福音?

Now I am a bit older, it is my responsibility to deposit the true gospel unto the next generation of Timothy's.
现在我长大了一点,把真福音传给提摩太的下一代是我的责任。

Many of us need to have a legacy and that legacy should be the one Paul has, one of not just sharing the gospel, with his current generation, but passing it on to the future generations.
我们很多人都需要留下遗产,而这个遗产应该是保罗所拥有的,不仅仅是与他这一代人分享福音,而是将它传递给后代。

Older Christian, are you mentoring a younger Christian?
年长的基督徒,你在指导年轻的基督徒吗?

I have a dear friend in China, who I taught English too, when I first came to China. I have been able to pass on books, sermons etc to encourage not just him but others. There are older Christians reading this, who may have books at home that are just lying there, if they are good, get them into the hands of a young Christian’s.
我在中国有一个好朋友,当我第一次来中国时,我也教过他英语。我可以通过书籍、布道等方式鼓励他和其他人。有些年长的基督徒正在读这篇文章,他们家里可能有书就放在那里,如果是好书,就把它们交到年轻的基督徒手中。

Also, to the Timothy's, guard the gospel you have been given with your life. It is the very power of God unto salvation unto all who believe, it has been deposited in your life, now it's time to pass the deposit on.
提摩太家的人,你们也要用生命保守所赐给你们的福音。拯救所有相信的人,这是神的大能,它已经存于你的生命中,现在是时候把这存下去了。

Don't break or lose the deposit, like I did when I broke the bottles (that only happened once or twice), but my father wasn't half mad.
不要打破或丢失存款,就像我打破瓶子时做的那样(只发生过一两次),但我父亲却没有生半点气。

If you do break or lose the deposit, it will be God himself that you will answer to, so guard WITH YOUR LIFE.
如果你真的破坏或丢失了存款,你要对上帝负责,所以用你的生命来守护。

Are you guarding your deposit or have you lost it?
你是保管着你的存款还是把它弄丢了?

God bless you
上帝祝福你






WORKING TOGETHER WITH GOD AND EACH OTHER
与上帝和彼此一起做工

1 Corinthians 3
哥林多前书3章
4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

有说:“我是属保罗的”;有说:“我是属亚波罗的。”这岂不是你们和世人一样吗?亚波罗算什么?保罗算什么?无非是执事,照主所赐给他们各人的,引导你们相信。我栽种了,亚波罗浇灌了,惟有 神叫他生长。可见栽种的,算不得什么,浇灌的,也算不得什么;只在那叫他生长的 神。
8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise master builder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

栽种的和浇灌的,都是一样,但将来各人要照自己的工夫得自己的赏赐。因为我们是与 神同工的;你们是 神所耕种的田地,所建造的房屋。我照 神所给我的恩,好像一个聪明的工头,立好了根基,有别人在上面建造;只是各人要谨慎怎样在上面建造。

I really want us to concentrate on verse 9. 。
我非常想我们一起来留意一下第9节
We are workers together with God
我们是与上帝一起作工的工人!
You know there are many gifts among the body of Christ. My brothers and sisters, we are not in competition with each other, we are workers together with God and with each other.

你知道在基督的身体里有许多恩赐。我的兄弟姐妹们,我们不是彼此竞争,我们是与神和彼此同工。
I am blessed to write and share and to be in ministry, as are many others, that doesn't mean I am in competition with other people who are writers and indeed write fifty times better than myself.

我被神祝福 能写作、分享和参与事工,就像其他很多人一样,这并不意味着我要和其他作家竞争,他们确实写得比我好50倍。
A dear sister writes beautiful poetry, that is her gifting from God. I can't write poetry, am I jealous?.. No. Do I thank God for her ministry?....Yes. 一
亲爱的姐妹能写出优美的诗歌,这是上帝给她的恩赐。我不会写诗歌,我嫉妒吗?不。我为她的事奉感谢神吗?....是的。一

Maybe you think you can do something someone else is doing.. but are you prepared to pay the price.. to go through the difficulties that person may have encountered. The Lord does not give out gifts until that person is ready to handle it.
也许你认为你可以做别人正在做的事情。但是你准备好付出代价了吗?经历某人可能遇到的困难。上帝不会随便给你恩赐,除非你准备好了。
I always remember when the Lord started me writing.. I had never written before and I put emoticons at the bottom of the messages .. but the Lord has helped me and taught me.
我一直记得上帝呼召我写作的那个时候。我以前从来没有写过东西,所以我把表情符号放在消息的底部。但耶和华帮助我,启示我。
We are to thank God for the different offices and gifts that people hold. Let us remember it is the Holy Spirit who gives out the gifts and ministries and every one he gives out is to the person who can uniquely do that role within the body of Christ.
我们要感谢神赐给我们不同的职位和恩赐。让我们记住,是圣灵赐下恩赐和事工,祂所赐给的每一个人,都是赐给在基督的肢体内,唯一能担当这个角色的人。

Please read and study 1 Corinthians Chapter 12.
请阅读学习哥林多前书12章

You have your own unique role in the Body of Christ, one that has been chosen for you by the Father and given to you through the operation of his Spirit, who also gives you the power to operate in it.
你在基督的身体里有自己独特的角色,这是天父为你选择的,并通过他的圣灵的运作赐给你,他也给你能力去知道如何运用
Be very careful believer, not to be unhappy with the spiritual gift you have been given, that would be to grieve the Holy Spirit and to tell Him, that he doesn't know what he is doing, when he clearly does.
信徒要非常小心,不要对你所得到的属灵恩赐感到不高兴,那将使圣灵伤心,告诉他,他不知道他在做什么,当他明明知道的时候。
For those of you, who do not know what their gift is, then seek God's face on the matter, he will reveal what He has in store for you and he will give you the strength to operate in that gift. 。
对于那些不知道自己的恩赐是什么的人,在这个问题上寻求上帝的面,他会告诉你他为你准备了什么,他会给你力量去运用他的恩赐。。
When the Lord is looking for people to use, he does not look at what denomination you are in, what size church you are in or what the size of your bank balance is.. he looks for a willingness to serve Him and to also serve the Body of Christ.
当主寻找要使用的人时,他不会看你是什么教派,你的教会有多大,或你的银行存款有多少。他寻求愿意服事神,也服事基督的人

Let me finish with a question.
然后我们结束这个问题
If the Lord said your gifting was washing up and serving tea every week after church, would you accept that or would you complain? Be very careful not to complain, the Israelites got nowhere and died in the desert because of their complaining and critical spirit. see Numbers 14

如果主说你的恩赐是每周做完礼拜后洗碗和倒茶,你会接受还是会抱怨?你们要小心,不要抱怨,以色列人因为他们的抱怨和挑剔的精神而无处可去,死在旷野。见民数记14章

God Bless you all
愿上帝祝福你
Keith

SOAK IN SCRIPTURE

CHINESE

太初、天主创造天地 In the Beginning God Created the Heaven & Earth

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周内的世界 The World in a Week

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创造的日子 Days of Creation

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人和动物的创造 The Creation of Man & Animals

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Elisha's Cutting

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Elisha's Counsel

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Elisha's Composure

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Elisha's Ceaselessness

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Salvation in a moment versus taking up one's cross

Because I have religious OCD, I am tending to wonder whether or not I am a Christian. Therefore, this is being posted in “Struggles by Non-Christians.” A person with religious OCD has the OCD doubt machine attack their belief in their own salvation frequently. In my today’s Bible reading, I read one of the places where Jesus says to take up one’s cross and follow him. I believe in salvation in a moment. In some places in the Bible, such as when Jesus counseled the rich young ruler, it says harsh things like take up one’s cross and follow Jesus. In other places, it indicates instantaneous salvation. For instance, in the gospel of John, a man has travelled from another city to meet Jesus. He begs Jesus for the life of his dying son. Jesus said, “Your son lives.” I think this was about one o’clock in the afternoon. The man returned to his own city. As he approached his house the next day, his servants met him and said that the fever had left his son. He inquired about when this happened. They told him the time his son was healed and he realized it was at the same time Jesus had told him his son lives, the day before. It says, then, simply, “Then he believed and his whole household.” At another point, Jesus told the sinful woman who was washing his feet at a dinner party, “Your sins are forgiven.” He said the same to the paralytic who was let down in front of him through the roof of a house. He told the woman at the well that he had living water for her. She believed and asked for the living water. Each of these instances were where the person believed and got saved in a moment. He did not say to any of them, take up your cross and follow me. Based on my knowledge of Christian/gospel doctrine, I suppose that the “instant believers” each, in their heart, along with “believing,” immediately decided to take up their cross and follow Jesus.

I have long concentrated on the moment of salvation. I have long sought the moment of salvation. That is because I know that after that moment, one’s sins are permanently forgiven. Salvation cannot be yanked from you after you have it, no matter what. Anybody who says otherwise I vehemently disagree with. Salvation occurs in a moment. But that is one incredible moment! Jesus said tough things like “count the cost” and that he who places his hands to the plow and then looks back is not fit for the kingdom of heaven. So, my question is, what does one have to do to really be saved? On the one hand, they have to deny themselves and take up their cross; on the other hand, the moment one believes, they are saved. I suppose it has something to do with trusting Jesus. I forgot to mention at the start of this that besides OCD, I have wavering faith. For me, trust and following Jesus can come and go on the scale of moments. I can seriously give my life to Christ at one moment, and the next be back to the way I normally am, which I suppose is: living for myself. I try to say to Jesus, ‘since you save in a moment and you do not waver, Ephesians 1:13-14 apply to me.’ Ephesians 1:13b says that believers HAVE trusted Christ, past tense, and that they were then sealed by the Holy Spirit. I want to believe that I HAVE trusted Christ, whether or not I am continuing to trust him at the present moment, and am therefore sealed by the Holy Spirit. But my OCD and wavering faith conspire to make me doubt my salvation again, shortly. How much psychological prepping, for how long, does one have to do to decide to bear one’s cross and follow Jesus? If one supposedly trusts Christ for a moment, but then their faith wavers away two seconds later, then they can wonder about the reality of their conversion.

What must I do to be saved?

After 50 years, Ellen Burstyn returns as Chris MacNeil in new "Exorcist" sequel

article said:
The Exorcist: Believer is a new horror film that features the return of Ellen Burstyn as Chris MacNeil, the mother of the possessed girl from the original film.

article said:
The Exorcist: Believer is expected to be one of the most anticipated horror films of 2023. It is scheduled to hit theaters on October 13th, 2023, just in time for Halloween. It is also the first of a planned trilogy of new Exorcist films that will continue the legacy of the original film.

Looks interesting.


Is EVERYTHING an unbeliever does sin?

Romans 14:23 says "everything that does not come from faith is sin."

Does this mean that a lost man who jumps on a grenade to save his friends lives was sinning in his action?

Romans 14:23 seems to say yes, but I have a hard time believing every breath an unbeliever takes is a sin, but I could be wrong...

Glad to be here!

Just dropping a little message here to say hello and introduce myself! I saw this website and decided to join. I'm an ELCA Lutheran and I thought that I could learn from others here and conversate a little bit about my faith and understand the differences between different denominations. I'm picking up Christianity again after 2 years of being an Atheist so I have forgotten a lot about the faith but I wish to be a full believer again. Hopefully, by being here I will be able to fulfill that and become a believer in Jesus again. I consider myself Lutheran because I go to a Lutheran church and I was baptised as a Lutheran even though I left church 2 years ago. It has only been recently since I came back to it. No i'll will or hatred or anything. I am very open-minded and willing to learn!

Overall, I'm glad to be here! I hope to learn many things because I have forgotten a lot of it.

Why do Apple and Google give support for only a few years?

I use Android on my phone and it gets 4 years of system updates from Samsung and an additional 2 years of security updates, and Apple will give you, on average, 6 years of updates for iOS, MacOS, and other OSes that they offer. But Microsoft guarantees 10 years life cycle for each edition of Windows and usually offers upgrade from an old OS to a newer one. Why does Microsoft offer superior support? Surely Apple is rich enough to offer better.

Tag team in U.S. Attorney’s Office accused of hiding Biden bribery allegations

The top lawyers in the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Delaware, one of them a Democratic donor, appeared to work in tandem to thwart an investigation into claims President Biden and his son Hunter collected a $10 million bribe while Mr. Biden was serving as vice president.

House lawmakers soon will have an opportunity to interview U.S. Attorney David Weiss, who was in charge of an investigation into Hunter Biden over unpaid taxes and lying on a firearm background check form. Mr. Weiss has agreed to testify at a public hearing about the case later this year amid criticism and new evidence that he concealed from IRS investigators critical information corroborating the Biden bribery claims.

House investigators also want to interview Mr. Weiss’s sidekick, Assistant U.S. Attorney Lesley Wolf, who IRS whistleblowers say stood in the way and even worked to undermine their efforts to fully investigate the Bidens for influence peddling and public corruption.


We have all of this to look forward to. These investigations are just getting started.
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Florida approves 'PragerU Kids' curriculum for use in public schools; PragerU Kids “aligns to Florida’s revised civics and government standards”

PragerU Says Florida Teachers Approved to Use Its Class ‘Curriculum’

A PragerU spokesperson told The Daily Beast it will be “up to teachers” to decide whether they use its “supplemental curriculum” in their classroom. The non-profit says Florida is the first state to approve the content, but they’re pushing for other states to join by the fall.
The Florida Department of Education told The Daily Beast in an email that it determined PragerU Kids’ material “aligns to Florida’s revised civics and government standards” and can be used by school districts at their discretion.

[Needless to say, PragerU is not an academic institution.]

Former pastor confesses to killing 8-year-old girl who was walking to Bible camp nearly 50 years ago

An 83-year-old former pastor has been charged with the kidnapping and murder of a neighboring pastor’s daughter in 1975, Pennsylvania officials announced Monday.

The suspect, David Zandstra, was arrested on July 17 in Cobb County, Georgia, where investigators say he confessed to killing 8-year-old Gretchen Harrington nearly five decades ago when he was a pastor in Marple Township, Pennsylvania, according to the Delaware County District Attorney’s office in Pennsylvania.

Zandstra admitted he offered Gretchen a ride to the summer camp the morning of her disappearance, according to the complaint. He told officers he drove the child to a wooded area and told her to take off her clothes, the complaint said.

His confession came after investigators presented him with new evidence gathered early this year, which came from an interview with a confidential informant and a diary entry the informant wrote in 1975 when she was a 10-year-old girl, the district attorney’s office said in a news release.

The woman showed police a diary she kept in 1975 in which she wrote that the then-pastor “touched her groin area” on two occasions while she was attending a sleepover at his home, the complaint said. The informant told investigators when she told Zandstra’s daughter what happened, the daughter replied that her father “did that sometimes,” the release said. [The diary also mentioned the killing: “I think it was Mr. Z.”]

They took blockbuster drugs for weight loss. Now their stomachs are paralyzed


Joanie Knight has a message for anyone considering drugs like Ozempic or Wegovy, which have become popular for the dramatic weight loss they can help people achieve.

“I wish I never touched it. I wish I’d never heard of it in my life,” said Knight, 37, from Angie, Louisiana. “This medicine made my life hell. So much hell. It has cost me money. It cost me a lot of stress, it cost me days and nights and trips with my family. It’s cost me a lot, and it’s not worth it. The price is too high.”

Brenda Allen, age 42, in Dallas, Texas, feels the same way. Her doctor prescribed Wegovy for weight loss.

Emily Wright, 38, a teacher in Toronto, Canada, started taking Ozempic in 2018. Over a year, she said she lost 80 pounds, which she’s been able to keep off. But Wright said she now vomits so frequently she had to take a leave of absence from her job.


“And even now, being off the medication for almost a year, I’m still having a lot of problems,” Allen said in an interview with CNN. She said she was at urgent care recently after vomiting so much she became dehydrated.

Doctors say more cases like these are coming to light as the popularity of the drugs soared. The US Food and Drug Administration said it has received reports of patients on the drugs experiencing stomach paralysis that sometimes has not resolved by the time it’s reported.

Exclusive: Hunter Biden's gallery sold his art to a Democratic donor 'friend' whom Joe Biden named to a prestigious commission

On the campaign trail, President Joe Biden pledged that there would be an "absolute wall" between his official duties and his family's private business interests. The Biden White House repeatedly made reference to that wall when responding to questions about the fledgling art career of Hunter Biden, the president's son. In 2021, when a New York art gallery debuted Hunter Biden's paintings with asking prices as high as $500,000, the White House said that his team had a process for carefully vetting buyers, and that their identities were known only to the gallery, and not to Hunter Biden himself.
The White House has promised transparency. The American people deserve answers.

Worried if I’m too kind…..

Hey everyone!

I wanted to reach out today after a short absence(mainly because I’ve had no anxiety!)
But something has been resonating within me these past few days.Now needless to say I indeed am an extremely kind individual to everyone I meet,even people who are mean to me.

But I’ve been not worried but concerned as if I’m being too kind.Now obviously many of you might think NO!,but wait,I mean it in a way that I’m concerned if I’m too kind and not holy at the same time.What I mean is not making it seem like I’m passive over others sins,I don’t speak out towards coworkers sins,but I do with my family.

Obviously I’m objected to all wicked things(not trying to start a debate) such as homosexuality,abortion,pornography,liars,etc.

But I worry I’m not demonstrating enough holiness and intolerance for sin.

I dunno how to express it any better,overall I’m not ashamed to call myself a Christian,and I’m proud of the character!,but I want the world to understand I don’t tolerate sin and hate it.But I worry I’m too soft

The God Of All Grace

To grow in Christ, we must grow in grace:
2 Peter 3:18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

More grace, by the power of the Holy Spirit
James 4:
5 Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain,
The Spirit who dwells in us yearns jealously?
6 But He gives more grace. Therefore He says:

God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.

All grace, for all sufficiency in every good work.

2 Corinthians 9:8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you,
that you, always having all sufficiency in all things, may have
an abundance for every good work.


Doxology

1 Peter 5:

10 But may the God of all grace, who called us to His eternal glory
by Christ Jesus, after you have suffered a while, perfect, establish,
strengthen, and settle you.
11 To Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.

GOP pushing for expanded child tax credit to increase refunds, include unborn children

Republicans in Congress are proposing an expansion of the Child Tax Credit that would boost refunds and include credits for unborn children.

“By expanding the Child Tax Credit to include the unborn and provide additional relief to working families, empowering women to care for their babies and families regardless of socioeconomic status or ZIP code, and expanding access to community resources, we can protect the most vulnerable, make a meaningful difference for those in need, and strengthen all families,” Ms. Hinson said.

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