Why people reject the Reprobate doctrine (Romans 1:18-32)

[Cockcrow]

You see these folks creeping in, even in the “free grace” circles it is pervasive, these people will come in with this claim and teaching that sodomites can actually be saved despite what clear scripture says, and they will throw 1 Corinthians 6 out of context at you. But they completely ignore The reprobate doctrine is clearly described in Romans 1:18-32

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, evenhis eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

28 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

29 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

The word of God clearly says God “gave them up”, and “gave them over” because they didn’t want to retain God in their knowledge, how can people still come away thinking that these are potentially saved people?

If Sodomites are just good people who are unsaved and need the gospel, or are a little mixed up, then why does every time in the Bible when it talks about a sodomite they are committing the most wicked evil acts. Not one sodomite ever got saved in scripture.

Sodomites cannot be saved, word of God is clear that they got that way because they rejected the gospel, didn’t want to retain God in their knowledge so God gave them up unto vile affections, to do that which is not convenient.

Still people will falsely throw 1 Corinthians 6 at you where it says “abusers of themselves with mankind” to say “see the sodomite can be saved” but is that passage really saying that? No, this is not a clear verse and that would contradict the rest of scripture and Romans 1:18-32 the reprobate doctrine.

This doctrine of “sodomites can be saved” creeping in is found nowhere in scripture, it is completely unbiblical.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Derek Prince likened it to a rotten apple. You cannot fix that. On a larger scale, once a nation is infected and it reaches the seats of power and the courts, I do not see any turning back. Once it becomes "normalized" in culture, science, politics, and law... run for the hills. That nation is about to be come down and come down hard. Not necessarily as punishment, but to cleanse the world of the infection and ultimately save humanity from extinction and self emulation.

 

[d taylor]

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Reprobate doctrine, that is a calvinistic doctrine, that all are reprobate's unable to respond to God's free gift of eternal life. God has to save the person first, then they can believe and be saved.

When & Where is the Resurrection of the Dead in Christ? Also: What About the “Reprobate Doctrine?” – Grace Evangelical Society​

 

[St_Worm2]

This doctrine of “sodomites can be saved” creeping in is found nowhere in scripture, it is completely unbiblical.

Hello Cockcrow, there is just one unpardonable sin, yes, the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit? That sin is, in point of fact, unpardonable from the moment that it is committed (IOW, once it has been committed, it can never be forgiven, whether in the eternity to come ~OR~ on this side of the grave .. e.g. Matthew 12:31-32).

Mark 3​

28 “Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter;​

29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit ~never~ has forgiveness, but is guilty of an ~eternal~ sin”—​

30 because they were saying, “He has an unclean spirit.”​

So, is this what you believe, that the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and the sin of homosexuality are one and the same thing? (or am I misunderstanding your meaning somehow?) Thanks!

If this is true however, what of the practicing homosexuals who (at least seem to) come to hear, believe and receive Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, and who, as a result, repent of/reject their former, sinful lifestyles? Do you believe that they are lost forever anyway??

The Bible seems to say that some homosexuals (along with all kinds of other sinners) came to believe in Christ during the 1st Century, that they repented of their former lifestyles and were cleansed and forgiven of their sins...........

1 Corinthians 6​

9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, ~nor effeminate, nor homosexuals~,​

10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.​

11 Such ~were~ some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.​

......and I believe that this continues to happen today

Finally, if I am missing something important in my assessment above, please point it out to me!

Thanks

God bless you!!

--David

Luke 5​

30 The Pharisees and their scribes began grumbling at His disciples, saying, “Why do you eat and drink with the tax collectors and sinners?”​

31 And Jesus answered and said to them, “It is not those who are well who need a physician, but those who are sick.​

32 “I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance.”​