Hang your head in shame America....

[Blindfaith]

None are as blind as those who shall not see....

I'm blind now? Huh...that's new to me too. WAIT! I'm Blindfaith. Alrighty then, that fits I guess

 

[Silvio D]

I'm sure you're right, and I'm sure your sarcasm is indicative of complete ignorance of the situation over there. A wedding celebration? They were firing weapons in the air. Helicopters? A helicopter that may be under attack doesn't stop to ask whether somebody might have been getting married that day... What would YOU have done, under the circumstances, Mr./Ms. lily-white?

~~Cheryl

Well anyone with a semblance of knowledge of Iraqi culture knows that gunfire is an integral part of a celebration including weddings. To suggest that with all the high powered technology at the disposal to the American forces that they could have mistaken a wedding celebration for being attacked suggests the people manning these crafts are as dumb as they look....

 

[Suzannah]

Silvio:

Dear brother of the auld sod! I'm a pacifist. I know, I know...unpopular and frankly considered "cowardly" down ter' pub!
but until I am an American, through and through, or threw and threw,that's when I'll be telling them how to run Washington....

my more immediate concern, and if you'er Irish, it shoudl be yours too, what's going on t' home???? Traveller's being denied medical care and justice.

You can whine all you want about the Americans, but we're no better t' home!
You know it...I do too...
So let's all join hands and sing "We are the World" whilst we berate our big brother across the pond...we're so ever much mor e"better" than he' is...
Give me a break!!! (to turn an American phrase.)

 

[Silvio D]

You're not sure of anything that went on in the minds of those soldiers. So, don't pretend you do - just to get reactions, (just like trolls do).

Are you really new here, or are you circumventing a ban under another user name?

Look son. If you're not prepared to involve yourself in the debating point of the original thread why bother engage with me at all....

 

[Western Deity]

"DFTT"

It's DNFTT. You can't say Don't Feed the trolls; "Don't" is an abbreviated "Do Not" and the "D" in "DFTT" is an abbreviated "Don't". You can't abbreviate and abbreviation, that's against the rules .

 

[Silvio D]

Silvio:

Dear brother of the auld sod! I'm a pacifist. I know, I know...unpopular and frankly considered "cowardly" down ter' pub!
but until I am an American, through and through, or threw and threw,that's when I'll be telling them how to run Washington....

my more immediate concern, and if you'er Irish, it shoudl be yours too, what's going on t' home???? Traveller's being denied medical care and justice.

You can whine all you want about the Americans, but we're no better t' home!
You know it...I do too...
So let's all join hands and sing "We are the World" whilst we berate our big brother across the pond...we're so ever much mor e"better" than he' is...
Give me a break!!! (to turn an American phrase.)

What about the travellers who carry out systematic fraud against this state and over the border by claiming unemployment benefit under a string of false names.

Then you have the travellers who take over a town on one of their drunken binges and terrify the elderly inhabitants....

 

[Western Deity]

Well, thanks for the link Silvio D, you're great.

I don't doubt what you're saying is true, but we try not to use the term "redneck"*.






*When they're the (gun-toting) majority

 

[Larry]

.

 

[Suzannah]

What about the travellers who carry out systematic fraud against this state and over the border by claiming unemployment benefit under a string of false names.

Then you have the travellers who take over a town on one of their drunken binges and terrify the elderly inhabitants....

Aha
!!!!
I'[ve flushed ye out!!!! a bigot in disguise.....sure and maybe ye've got some snake oil to sell????


for the Americans: the Travellers are to your thinking, the Gypsies. Silvio here, would liketo see them "banned " from polite society .....Your thoughts are welcome. This is the same argument that is used against the "wetbacks" and the "whosoever" that plagues American politics...have at it.

Silvio: you're no Irishman in the Joe Plunkett tradition and you know it!

 

[Existential1]

My head hangs in shame. I publicly admit it.....now what??? Would you like me beheaded as well?


I am truly despondent over all the "latest" news...but I am not surprised...man/woman is ever in need of his/her Saviour as he/she ever was! We have not "evolved" into a more compassionate, kindly race. We are as we ever were!

Where your heart leads your head to hang Suzaannah, then your head probably is doing such as to merit remaining on the your shoulders.
But, some need beheading: beheading of the intellectual dogma cum doctrine, convicted intellectualism which yet keeps their heads high; certain that the USA is about God's work, led by a president who sees himself as answering God's call to lead that USA into crusade in this earthly world.
Christianity which eschews the intellect, that we genuinely be as little children, has and does give sweet fruit: but, where such eschewal, in taking grasp of the power of Caesar's palaces, leads to uniformed intervention, we have bitter, hellish fruit.

Isn't striking that it is the newbies who bring this message of our failure, so powerfully into our CF public domain.
Then what happens to some of these voices?
Do we sufficiently support and develop the witness they bring and make?

 

[Blindfaith]

To suggest that with all the high powered technology at the disposal to the American forces that they could have mistaken a wedding celebration for being attacked suggests the people manning these crafts are as dumb as they look....

Excuse me? "as dumb as they look"? I suggest you watch your mouth. First of all, that offends me as an American and a daughter of a Marine. Second, slamming a group of people with this type of statement goes against the grain of posting here at CF. If you need further clarification, read the forum specific rules on the homepage of NC&E or pm me.

 

[Blindfaith]

This is the same argument that is used against the "wetbacks" and the "whosoever" that plagues American politics...have at it.

I'm not a wetback, but a tomato-picker - does that count?

 

[Suzannah]

Where your heart leads your head to hang Suzaannah, then your head probably is doing such as to merit remaining on the your shoulders.
But, some need beheading: beheading of the intellectual dogma cum doctrine, convicted intellectualism which yet keeps their heads high; certain that the USA is about God's work, led by a president who sees himself as answering God's call to lead that USA into crusade in this earthly world.
Christianity which eschews the intellect, that we genuinely be as little children, has and does give sweet fruit: but, where such eschewal, in taking grasp of the power of Caesar's palaces, leads to uniformed intervention, we have bitter, hellish fruit.

Isn't striking that it is the newbies who bring this message of our failure, so powerfully into our CF public domain.
Then what happens to some of these voices?
Do we sufficiently support and develop the witness they bring and make?

Eschewal. is that a word???? It might make the difference in your note making sense.

 

[Western Deity]

"Rednecks", "as dumb as they look"...

I'm left-wing and I don't like you. You're a troll, go away.

 

[Existential1]

Excuse me? "as dumb as they look"? I suggest you watch your mouth. First of all, that offends me as an American and a daughter of a Marine. Second, slamming a group of people with this type of statement goes against the grain of posting here at CF. If you need further clarification, read the forum specific rules on the homepage of NC&E or pm me.

Excuse me Blindfaith.

While accepting any rule mediated reference you make, and leaving that unchallenged.

Then, unless you comprehensively deny the accuracy of this report, or subcribe to the new doctrine, of being outraged at the outrage: then any military which so fires upon and kills non-combatants; at the very least opens itself to the ire which this poster expresses.

If we address ourselves to the issues, as the spirt of CF rules intends, and as you so rightly have pointed out elsewhere: then that issue here has to be the death of innocents; where to begin with indignant defence of that institution which has perpetrated this offence against innocents (if that is what has happened), and condemnation of justified anger at this and those who perpetrated it, would seem to introduce very strange and debilitating conditions for witness.

 

[artofwar]

dear oh dear does this argument ever stop? has America done things wrong in Iraq?Yes, have they done good also? yes, are there ignorant one sided arrogant Americans ? definately , are they ones in other countries that arnt Americans? Yes, why do we argue about stuff they will not be resolved in this way? a debate and opinions for sure but not racist attacks surely,

 

[Suzannah]

I'm not a wetback, but a tomato-picker - does that count?

Oh no, you see according to Silvio's politics, tomato - pickers are the WORST...They throw garbage everywhere and they don't dress well...

 

[Silvio D]

Aha
!!!!
I'[ve flushed ye out!!!! a bigot in disguise.....sure and maybe ye've got some snake oil to sell????


for the Americans: the Travellers are to your thinking, the Gypsies. Silvio here, would liketo see them "banned " from polite society .....Your thoughts are welcome. This is the same argument that is used against the "wetbacks" and the "whosoever" that plagues American politics...have at it.

Silvio: you're no Irishman in the Joe Plunkett tradition and you know it!

Are you denying that Travellers carry out systematic Social Welfare fraud? Also the drunken sprees thay go on terrorising the inhabitants of the unfortunate town they choose to 'take over'...

Really Suzannah. Smell the coffee....

 

[Blindfaith]

And like I stated on page 1, an accurate explanation/story has NOT come out yet, merely speculation. My goodness, could it be possible that the opposing side could be sending misinformation out to feed the gullible? I am denying the accuracy of the report until all reports come in. I'm not going to make a judgement call until I hear all sides of the story.

 

[Blindfaith]

Oh no, you see according to Silvio's politics, tomato - pickers are the WORST...They throw garbage everywhere and they don't dress well...

I beg to differ. I dress very well and use a garbage disposal