Cherokee Origins Egypt & Israel in B.C. Times

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Various studies show that some Native Americans have both Egyptian & Hebrew roots, which I believe came from the tribe of Ephraim -

1 Kings 10:22 - "For the king had at sea a navy of Tharshish with the navy of Hiram: once in three years came the navy of Tharshish, bringing gold, and silver, ivory, and apes, and peacocks."
(We know Peacocks come from India, so this shows the ships were capable of that voyage, and as we'll see, there's some evidence voyagers from Tarshish came to the Americas)

(DNA shows link of Cherokee & Egyptian):

The many interrelationships noted above reinforce the conclusion that this is a faithful cross-section of a population. No such mix could have resulted from post-1492 European gene flow into the Cherokee Nation. So where do our non-European, non-Indian-appearing elements come from? The level of haplogroup T in the Cherokee (26.9%) approximates the percentage for Egypt (25%), one of the only lands where T attains a major position among the various mitochondrial lineages. In Egypt, T is three times what it is in Europe.

(Artifacts show Phoenician travel to the Americas):
Whittall showed Fell a photograph of an inscription engraved on a cliff above Mount Hope Bay, in Bristol, Rhode Island, which was discovered and recorded in 1780. Because of vandalization, it was necessary to work from the photograph. Fell soon translated a single line, which was written in Punic: “Voyagers from Tarshish this stone proclaims.”


Tarshish was a Biblical city on the southern coast of Spain, and its citizens were among the boldest sailors of antiquity, famous for the size of their ships. In 533 B.C., the Carthaginians and their trade taken over by these ambitious, daring sailors destroyed Tarshish. Here was evidence of how the partnership between Celts and the Carthaginians began.

On Monhegan Island, 12 miles off the coast of Maine, another inscription was brought to Dr. Fell’s attention. It was written in Celtic Ogam and read, “Cargo platforms for ships from Phoenicia.” [(Also scan Photos) ] From these and other inscriptions, as well as an intensive study of historical data on the seafaring ability of the men of Tarshish and Carthage, Fell concluded that there was a highly developed trade route between America and the Mediterranean for at least 400 years before the birth of Christ. The principal products from North America were probably copper, furs and hides. Fell noted that there was evidence of very early mining in the copper fields of Minnesota as well as of an extensive fur trade. The Carthaginians used to proclaim that they obtained their furs from Gaul. But when the Romans finally invaded Gaul, they found very little evidence of a fur trade. Thus, Gaul might have been a code word for America. A prevailing obstacle to verifying Bronze Age voyages from Europe to America is the absence of bronze tools among the American artifacts

Data from America now began to multiply. Most important was Fell’s translation of the Davenport stele, which some people compare to the translation of the Rosetta stone—the 19th-Century breakthrough that enabled a reading of hieroglyphics and to grasp the awesome sweep of Egyptian history. On this inscription, which was found in a burial mound near Davenport, Iowa in 1874, Dr. Fell was able to read three kinds of writing. At the top were Egyptian hieroglyphics. Below them was the Iberic form of Punic writing found in Spain. The third line was in Libyan script. This mean that there were Egyptians, Libyans and Celtic Iberians living together in a colony in Iowa in 900 B.C. It also means that we have to revise a lot of our ideas about American history in general and the culture of the Amerindians in particular.
Revelations about American colonization

(Brazil associated with Ophir):
These original inhabitants, the aboriginal people of Brazil—whom Brandão depicts as provident and skillful traders, actively engaging in business with the colonizers—are the same people whose origin he investigates in relation to the Old Testament’s history of the Jews. The Brazilian Indians are the descendants of an ancient tribe sent by King Solomon to the celebrated land of Ophir in order to fetch wood for the construction of the Temple of God.
The Indians Who Came from Ophir: Prophecy and Natural History in Early Modern Brazil

Interesting prophecies regarding the tribe of Ephraim specifically, who is 1/2 of the tribe of Joseph:

"Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:

The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him:
But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel)
Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:
The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren." (Genesis 49:22-26)

I've often wondered if the everlasting hills refer to the Appalachian mountains of North America, which is exactly where the Cherokee dwelt

"And it came to pass after these things, that one told Joseph, Behold, thy father is sick: and he took with him his two sons, Manasseh and Ephraim.
And one told Jacob, and said, Behold, thy son Joseph cometh unto thee: and Israel strengthened himself, and sat upon the bed.
And Jacob said unto Joseph, God Almighty appeared unto me at Luz in the land of Canaan, and blessed me,

And said unto me, Behold, I will make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, and I will make of thee a multitude of people; and will give this land to thy seed after thee for an everlasting possession." (Gen 48:1-4)

"And Israel beheld Joseph's sons, and said, Who are these?
And Joseph said unto his father, They are my sons, whom God hath given me in this place. And he said, Bring them, I pray thee, unto me, and I will bless them.
Now the eyes of Israel were dim for age, so that he could not see. And he brought them near unto him; and he kissed them, and embraced them.
And Israel said unto Joseph, I had not thought to see thy face: and, lo, God hath shewed me also thy seed.
And Joseph brought them out from between his knees, and he bowed himself with his face to the earth.
And Joseph took them both, Ephraim in his right hand toward Israel's left hand, and Manasseh in his left hand toward Israel's right hand, and brought them near unto him.

And Israel stretched out his right hand, and laid it upon Ephraim's head, who was the younger, and his left hand upon Manasseh's head, guiding his hands wittingly; for Manasseh was the firstborn.
And he blessed Joseph, and said, God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God which fed me all my life long unto this day,
The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.
And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head unto Manasseh's head.
And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head.
And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations." (Gen 48:8-19)

Who is Ephraim's mother? Asenath, daughter of the priest on On, and Egyptian. (Gen 41:45 & 50, 46:20) Also interesting is where it says Ephraim's seed shall become a multitude of nations: that's "Goy", specifically "goyim" which is usually a reference to heathen, or non Hebrew people's or nations, a foreign or Gentile Nation.

"Using a combination of DNA analysis, historical research, and classical philology, it uncovers the Jewish and Eastern Mediterranean ancestry of the Cherokee" - Old World Roots of the Cherokee, by Donald Yates, 2014

Finally, look at Deuteronomy 33:13-17,
"And of Joseph he said, Blessed of the Lord be his land, for the precious things of heaven, for the dew, and for the deep that coucheth beneath,
And for the precious fruits brought forth by the sun, and for the precious things put forth by the moon,
And for the chief things of the ancient mountains, and for the precious things of the lasting hills,

And for the precious things of the earth and fulness thereof, and for the good will of him that dwelt in the bush: let the blessing come upon the head of Joseph, and upon the top of the head of him that was separated from his brethren.
His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh."

It was back in 1993 when this just exploded like a revelation, and it was as if the Spirit was saying "Come and see" and to look into these things, which continue to be confirmed now over 30 years later.


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"In other words, the erosion of the landscape began long after the Appalachian Mountains themselves were pushed up" - Biblegeology.net

And here's a decent paper on the Appalachians
 

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Various studies show that some Native Americans have both Egyptian & Hebrew roots, which I believe came from the tribe of Ephraim -
Empirical evidence please.

Jewish Indian theory (or Hebraic Indian theory,[1] or Jewish Amerindian theory[2]) is the erroneous idea that some or all of the lost tribes of Israel had travelled to the Americas and that all or some of the Indigenous peoples of the Americas are of Israelite descent or were influenced by still-lost Jewish populations. The theory was popular in the late seventeenth century,[3] and had a lasting legacy through its influence on Mormon belief.

 
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Empirical evidence please.

Jewish Indian theory (or Hebraic Indian theory,[1] or Jewish Amerindian theory[2]) is the erroneous idea that some or all of the lost tribes of Israel had travelled to the Americas and that all or some of the Indigenous peoples of the Americas are of Israelite descent or were influenced by still-lost Jewish populations. The theory was popular in the late seventeenth century,[3] and had a lasting legacy through its influence on Mormon belief.


I don't go for that Mormon beliefs, and they have a supposed tribe of Nephi which is not in the Bible. Even the scripture I quoted is clear that Ephraim's seed would become a multitude of GOYIM, which is gentile.
I believe more in the EGYPTIAN ancestry of some of the Natives.
Any Israel would have come through Ephraim only, which is my theory. And he was half Egyptian as it was, and would have then intermarried with those of full Egyptian which would explain the closeness of the Halpogroup T DNA.

Some of this stuff we may only know for certain once we are in the kingdom of heaven, and know even as we are known. Here we have little bits and pieces of evidence that seem to point to something, but no, I don't believe all the lost tribes came to the Americas.
 
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I don't go for that Mormon beliefs, and they have a supposed tribe of Nephi which is not in the Bible. Even the scripture I quoted is clear that Ephraim's seed would become a multitude of GOYIM, which is gentile.
I believe more in the EGYPTIAN ancestry of some of the Natives.
Any Israel would have come through Ephraim only, which is my theory. And he was half Egyptian as it was, and would have then intermarried with those of full Egyptian which would explain the closeness of the Halpogroup T DNA.

Some of this stuff we may only know for certain once we are in the kingdom of heaven, and know even as we are known. Here we have little bits and pieces of evidence that seem to point to something, but no, I don't believe all the lost tribes came to the Americas.
Empirical evidence please.
 
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A survey of 340 teaching archaeologists in 1983, showed 95.7% had a "negative" view of Barry Fell's claims (considering them pseudo-archaeology), 2.9% had a "neutral" view, and only 1.4% (5) had a "positive" view (regarding them as factual).


Give us something better than Fell.
 
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Various studies show that some Native Americans have both Egyptian & Hebrew roots, which I believe came from the tribe of Ephraim -

Most of what you posted appears to be cut and pasted from other websites without proper citation. A number of your links are to a web page on archeology published by a specialist in the control of invasive plant species (not an archeologist).
 
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Various studies show that some Native Americans have both Egyptian & Hebrew roots, which I believe came from the tribe of Ephraim -

Why is your avatar the letter J, when your name starts with a K?
 
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Why is your avatar the letter J, when your name starts with a K?

Thanks for the reminder, I need to change it. It's from my Gmail. Username here starts with a K. There, done.
 
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