Evolution or descent with modification?

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Evolution "makes predictions". My fingerprints have all but disappeared causing me to drop things that I used to hold with a light grip. This is common as one ages, and gives another meaning to "losing one's grip". ^_^ Does evolution predict that this will be resolved in the future, and if so when? Further, can evolution explain why this phenomenon occurs in the first place? Has evolution decided that at a certain age older people should start dropping things?
 
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LOL! Is that all you've got? A claim that you have no evidence for?

Not an important point; just an aside. Contact tas. He seems to be able to find lost posts.
 
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Evolution "makes predictions". My fingerprints have all but disappeared causing me to drop things that I used to hold with a light grip. This is common as one ages, and gives another meaning to "losing one's grip". ^_^ Does evolution predict that this will be resolved in the future, and if so when? Further, can evolution explain why this phenomenon occurs in the first place? Has evolution decided that at a certain age older people should start to drop things?
No, because in the state of nature to which evolution applies you would have been dead before that ever came up.
 
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Evolution "makes predictions". My fingerprints have all but disappeared causing me to drop things that I used to hold with a light grip. This is common as one ages, and gives another meaning to "losing one's grip". ^_^ Does evolution predict that this will be resolved in the future, and if so when? Further, can evolution explain why this phenomenon occurs in the first place? Has evolution decided that at a certain age older people should start dropping things?

So far as I understand it, evolution is only likely to resolve this problem if your ability to hold onto things in old age increases the probability that your children and grandchildren will have children of their own.
 
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Evolution "makes predictions". My fingerprints have all but disappeared causing me to drop things that I used to hold with a light grip. This is common as one ages, and gives another meaning to "losing one's grip". ^_^ Does evolution predict that this will be resolved in the future, and if so when? Further, can evolution explain why this phenomenon occurs in the first place? Has evolution decided that at a certain age older people should start dropping things?
Why would you think that this is a problem that evolution would fix?

Tell me, how much has this dropping of things affected your ability to pass on your genes? It sounds like you are past breeding or even child rearing age so how did this negatively affect you then? How does it negatively affect you even now?

Questions like this tell us that you do not understand what you are debating against.
 
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So far as I understand it, evolution is only likely to resolve this problem if your ability to hold onto things in old age increases the probability that your children and grandchildren will have children of their own.
Perhaps he drops his grandchildren on their heads?
 
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Why would you think that this is a problem that evolution would fix?

Tell me, how much has this dropping of things affected your ability to pass on your genes? It sounds like you are past breeding or even child rearing age so how did this negatively affect you then? How does it negatively affect you even now?

Questions like this tell us that you do not understand what you are debating against.

The ridges (fingerprints) on my fingertips are supposedly a product of evolution. So why should they wear off? I still need them. :mad:
 
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Why would you think that this is a problem that evolution would fix?

Tell me, how much has this dropping of things affected your ability to pass on your genes? It sounds like you are past breeding or even child rearing age so how did this negatively affect you then? How does it negatively affect you even now?

Questions like this tell us that you do not understand what you are debating against.

How does healthy fingerprints help pass on my genes?
 
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The ridges (fingerprints) on my fingertips are supposedly a product of evolution. So why should they wear off? I still need them. :mad:
Evolution does not create perfect life forms. It was never claimed to. Evolution works on good enough. Your fingers worked well enough for you to raise a family and pass on your genes. As your contribution to the success of your offspring goes down so does the effect of evolution on your life. Evolution is a thoughtless process that really does not "care" for individuals. Just as the weather does not care for an individual, but it can affect one.
 
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Something happened since Adam and Eve; we can't all share the same blood.

Amen. Adam and Eve died some 800 years before Noah arrived on planet Earth. When the canopy on Adam's firmament was opened, it rained for 40 days and nights and the miles wide Earth of Adam dissolved into Lake Van, Turkey, 11,000 years ago, releasing the 450 ft long Ark into the Lake.

Noah's grandsons, like Cain on Adam's Earth had NO other Human to marry so they married and produced children with the prehistoric people (sons of God) who had been on Earth for millions of years before the Ark arrived. Genesis 6:4 In this manner, God has produced the 7.7 Billion living Humans from the grandsons of one man. Our God is an awesome God. Amen?
 
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The ridges (fingerprints) on my fingertips are supposedly a product of evolution. So why should they wear off? I still need them. :mad:
Because when they were evolved, humans didn't generally live long enough for it to become a problem. Evolution only "fixes" things which interfere with reproductive success. The dead don't reproduce.
 
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Amen. Adam and Eve died some 800 years before Noah arrived on planet Earth. When the canopy on Adam's firmament was opened, it rained for 40 days and nights and the miles wide Earth of Adam dissolved into Lake Van, Turkey, 11,000 years ago, releasing the 450 ft long Ark into the Lake.

Noah's grandsons, like Cain on Adam's Earth had NO other Human to marry so they married and produced children with the prehistoric people (sons of God) who had been on Earth for millions of years before the Ark arrived. Genesis 6:4 In this manner, God has produced the 7.7 Billion living Humans from the grandsons of one man. Our God is an awesome God. Amen?

Interesting theory.
 
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Because when they were evolved, humans didn't generally live long enough for it to become a problem. Evolution only "fixes" things which interfere with reproductive success. The dead don't reproduce.

It is true that my (then) wife and I reproduced before I began to lose my grip. :tonguewink:
 
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